[nflug] Fish - and more on MC (much more - sorry) hey JJ (possible tutorials!)

[JJ Neff]

Sounds like you may have stumbled on a topic that could actually take a few
meetings to teach.  Many folks probably use Gnome or KDE or even other
graphical file manipulators but are unaware of the power of MC.  I for one
realize it's there but end up always getting frustrated by not knowing what to
do.  I like the split window and like many CLI toosl know there is more I can
do but don't take the time to learn it. 

Now being shown that's another matter.  The next time people are clamering for
a topic for a meeting, "How to get more for less by using MC" or " MC and you -
become a super User..." Ok you get the point :-)

Anyway just wondering if there are any online tutorials (debian centric great
any others OK) on MC that can get me started learning if it the right tool for
me...
(I still work in console on a few machines - very few...)

JJ

--- pirrone <pirrone at localnet.com> wrote:

> If you do JJ, please post your impressions.  I'd be interested in how a 
> user of your experience perceives the efficiency of this approach to 
> file management etc. over the dominant graphical applications. 
> 
> I've got MC all tricked out with just the way I want files of .ext type 
> handled.  Virtually all documents - text, office suite, multimedia, 
> executable, whatever are all configured through ~/.mc/mc.ext to open on 
> a press of Enter with just the application, in some cases full-featured 
> and in others lightweight, that I prefer. 
> 
> For example, I might prefer doing my serious word processing in OO.o 
> Writer but would rather have a .doc file or an .rtf open from MC with 
> AbiWord since it launches so quickly and renders well in the latest 
> versions.
> 
> Finally, on the ultra-clean "desktop" of the equally ultra-efficient 
> window manager Fluxbox, I've got MC set to run in a modeless Eterm 
> window - no border, no title, no menu, no scroll bar - set to 
> transparency, which along with MC set to transparency as well has in its 
> file display mode all directories and all files floating in MC's frames 
> transparent against my subtle blue background, and in its shell mode 
> showing nothing but the command prompt eerily floating below the top of 
> an empty screen.  Do a CLI action and watch the stdout fill the screen!
> 
> Key section of ~/.mc/mc.ini for this transparency:
> 
> [Colors]
>
base_color=normal=white,default:directory=white,default:marked=yellow,default:selected=gray,white:ex
>
ecutable=brightgreen,default:link=lightgray,default:stalelink=brightred,default:special=brightblue,d
> efault:device=magenta,default:editnormal=white,default
> 
> Eterm configuration from ~/.fluxbox/menu and keys where Alt-f pops it 
> right up:
> 
> Mod1 f  :ExecCommand Eterm --trans --borderless --scrollbar off 
> --buttonbar off --geometry 100x44+18
> 5+65 --font 10x20 --foreground-color white -e mc >/dev/null 2>&1
> 
> Example of accessing OGG files from ~/.mc/mc.ext:
> 
> ### Sound files ###
> regex/\.([oO][gG][gG])$
>         Open=if [ "$DISPLAY" = "" ]; then ogg123 %f; else (xmms %f &); fi
>         View=%view{ascii} ogginfo %s
> 
> Sorry to ramble, and rhapsodize, but let me tip my hand in closing if I 
> haven't already - I can scream with this application - tagging, moving, 
> copying, renaming, editing ASCII and HEX, shelling out to try something, 
> all the features of its Virtual File System - you name it.  My 
> productivity is absolutely optimized here.  Now I haven't spent much 
> time trying to get Nautilus or Konqueror doing any of the above, and do 
> indeed have strong opinions on the value of "desktops" cluttered with 
> "icons" and working solely in graphical applications that force you to 
> do it their way, but languished long enough in Windows Explorer to have 
> erected a little shrine in the corner of my room to MC.
> 
> Frank
> 
> JJ Neff wrote:
> 
> >Now to actually try to learn to use MC (been promising I would for Oh so
> >long...)
> >
> >JJN
> >
> >--- pirrone <pirrone at localnet.com> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Cyber Source wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>vlok stone wrote:
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>I came across this while browsing. Do you know that in KDE you can 
> >>>>use konqueror to
> >>>>access your remote file via ssh. In KDE there's a
> >>>>protocol called fish will actually makes the remote
> >>>>file available like a local file.
> >>>>
> >>>>Jut as simple as: fish://remote.host
> >>>>I tried it and it works great. Anyone ever use this?
> >>>>Seems like a well hidden gem.
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>That's pretty cool! Incidentally, konqueror works just fine in Gnome 
> >>>too...... ;) I will poke around to see if Firefox has something similar
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Also works as FISH component of Midnight Commander's Virtual file system:
> >>
> >>cd /#sh:user at remote.host.com
> >>
> >>and you'll be prompted for user's password.  This leaves you with all 
> >>the MC capabilities - file transfer, editing, shell commands, tagging 
> >>and multiple file operations.  Anyone used to this app and its inherent 
> >>efficiencies should give this a look if you haven't already.
> >>
> >>Frank
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