[nflug] Fish - and more on MC (much more - sorry) hey JJ

[pirrone]

If you do JJ, please post your impressions.  I'd be interested in how a 
user of your experience perceives the efficiency of this approach to 
file management etc. over the dominant graphical applications. 

I've got MC all tricked out with just the way I want files of .ext type 
handled.  Virtually all documents - text, office suite, multimedia, 
executable, whatever are all configured through ~/.mc/mc.ext to open on 
a press of Enter with just the application, in some cases full-featured 
and in others lightweight, that I prefer. 

For example, I might prefer doing my serious word processing in OO.o 
Writer but would rather have a .doc file or an .rtf open from MC with 
AbiWord since it launches so quickly and renders well in the latest 
versions.

Finally, on the ultra-clean "desktop" of the equally ultra-efficient 
window manager Fluxbox, I've got MC set to run in a modeless Eterm 
window - no border, no title, no menu, no scroll bar - set to 
transparency, which along with MC set to transparency as well has in its 
file display mode all directories and all files floating in MC's frames 
transparent against my subtle blue background, and in its shell mode 
showing nothing but the command prompt eerily floating below the top of 
an empty screen.  Do a CLI action and watch the stdout fill the screen!

Key section of ~/.mc/mc.ini for this transparency:

[Colors]
base_color=normal=white,default:directory=white,default:marked=yellow,default:selected=gray,white:ex
ecutable=brightgreen,default:link=lightgray,default:stalelink=brightred,default:special=brightblue,d
efault:device=magenta,default:editnormal=white,default

Eterm configuration from ~/.fluxbox/menu and keys where Alt-f pops it 
right up:

Mod1 f  :ExecCommand Eterm --trans --borderless --scrollbar off 
--buttonbar off --geometry 100x44+18
5+65 --font 10x20 --foreground-color white -e mc >/dev/null 2>&1

Example of accessing OGG files from ~/.mc/mc.ext:

### Sound files ###
regex/\.([oO][gG][gG])$
        Open=if [ "$DISPLAY" = "" ]; then ogg123 %f; else (xmms %f &); fi
        View=%view{ascii} ogginfo %s

Sorry to ramble, and rhapsodize, but let me tip my hand in closing if I 
haven't already - I can scream with this application - tagging, moving, 
copying, renaming, editing ASCII and HEX, shelling out to try something, 
all the features of its Virtual File System - you name it.  My 
productivity is absolutely optimized here.  Now I haven't spent much 
time trying to get Nautilus or Konqueror doing any of the above, and do 
indeed have strong opinions on the value of "desktops" cluttered with 
"icons" and working solely in graphical applications that force you to 
do it their way, but languished long enough in Windows Explorer to have 
erected a little shrine in the corner of my room to MC.

Frank

JJ Neff wrote:

>Now to actually try to learn to use MC (been promising I would for Oh so
>long...)
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>JJN
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>--- pirrone <pirrone at localnet.com> wrote:
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>>Cyber Source wrote:
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>>>vlok stone wrote:
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>>>>I came across this while browsing. Do you know that in KDE you can 
>>>>use konqueror to
>>>>access your remote file via ssh. In KDE there's a
>>>>protocol called fish will actually makes the remote
>>>>file available like a local file.
>>>>
>>>>Jut as simple as: fish://remote.host
>>>>I tried it and it works great. Anyone ever use this?
>>>>Seems like a well hidden gem.
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>>>That's pretty cool! Incidentally, konqueror works just fine in Gnome 
>>>too...... ;) I will poke around to see if Firefox has something similar
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>>Also works as FISH component of Midnight Commander's Virtual file system:
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>>cd /#sh:user at remote.host.com
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>>and you'll be prompted for user's password.  This leaves you with all 
>>the MC capabilities - file transfer, editing, shell commands, tagging 
>>and multiple file operations.  Anyone used to this app and its inherent 
>>efficiencies should give this a look if you haven't already.
>>
>>Frank
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