Verizon Fios (Fiber-to-the-Premises) Internet (Cheap??)
Robert Meyer
meyer_rm at yahoo.com
Wed Jul 28 08:33:19 EDT 2004
The problem with the "page not available" errors was due to DNS, not the
connection. If you change your DNS server to a NON-Adelphia server,
performance will be WAY better.
Cheers!
Bob
--- Advent Systems <adventsystems at verizon.net> wrote:
> Tim,
> Thanks for the leads. After running the tests a few times I was
> averaging 1299 kbps/up and 351kbps/down. Adelphia must have improved
> their speed over the last few years because at the above speeds my
> connection "seems" as fast or faster then my adelphia connection was.
> I agree with you that when my connection was working it was fast but my
> problem was getting way too many "page not available" screens. I never
> (well...) get that with the dsl.
>
> Thanks again,
> Bob Randal
> adventsystems at verizon.net
>
>
> Timothy J. Finucane wrote:
>
> >Try http://www.broadbandreports.com/stest
> >
> >I get between 1.5 mbps and 2.5mbps. I've had it as high as 3 mbps. Your
> >speed may vary depending on how many people are using it in your area,
> >and sometimes time of day.
> >
> >DSL can be as fast as the 1.5mbps if you are very close to the
> >origination point of the signal. The further you get from that point the
> >slower your speed, so experience can very from one household to the
> >next.
> >
> >On the flip side, Adelphia's network (and customer service) can be a
> >real pain in the arse when using a DSL/Cable router. At least that is my
> >experience anyway. But when it's working it's the best connection I've
> >ever had.
> >
> >Tim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 18:32, Advent Systems wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi Tim,
> >>Are there different "levels" of service available from Adelphia, and how
> >>would we measure the actual performance of the service being delivered
> >>to our computers by the different vendors? I tried adelphia for 12-16
> >>months using there "standard offer" (about $70/mo.) and the dsl from
> >>verzion I have now seems twice as fast. I know saying "twice" as fast
> >>is meaningless, it's just that overall when trying to get stuff done it
> >>seems with verizon dsl I'm done in half the time.(not to mention
> >>$35.00/mo).
> >>
> >>Bob Randal
> >>adventsystems at verizon.net
> >>Timothy J. Finucane wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>DSL is available to me, and I have tried it from several companies,
> >>>including Verizon. Unfortunately it does not even come close to the
> >>>3mbps speed I get from Adelphia.
> >>>
> >>>Tim
> >>>
> >>>On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 18:13, Advent Systems wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Timothy J. Finucane wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Good points, but I think the average user's needs are growing at a very
> >>>>>fast pace. There is obviously a hug market for delivery of music, and I
> >>>>>don't just mean kazza theft. I mean things like iTunes, which has
> >>>>>exploded right out of the gate. Unless there are some tremendous
> >>>>>developments in compression technology, these downloads are likely to
> >>>>>remain fairly large. And music is something that is of interest to the
> >>>>>average user. And the streaming video from the parts of the internet we
> >>>>>need not mention already pushes the limits of the current bandwidth.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Also, I still can't quite classify Verizon's new offering as "Overkill"
> >>>>>because the $35 package (the one most people will buy) is only 2-5 mbps.
> >>>>>I currently get 3mbps on my Adelphia cable modem. That sounds pretty
> >>>>>close to the same service. And the average user of broadband services is
> >>>>>on cable, not DSL. Though I'm sure that is only because of the 3 mile
> >>>>>technical limit with DSL.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>In addition, they are starting the roll out in Texas, and expecting more
> >>>>>expansion after that. they are predicting 1 million homes tied to fiber
> >>>>>by the end of the year. That's a small number compared to the number of
> >>>>>homes in the US. By the time they get here, things could have clearly
> >>>>>changed that will require larger bandwidth.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Tim
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 12:48, Ronald Maggio wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>In response to the following, you are correct about
> >>>>>>progress/innovation, but my comment was about the average end user,
> >>>>>>student and home/small business. Do we really need it? It is fine for
> >>>>>>those that truly have a need of such resources. Now think a minute,
> >>>>>>regardless of your computing skills or needs do you really think that
> >>>>>>the average end user which is the gross marketed target really needs
> >>>>>>all this and more.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Your speaking from where you see it, as your needs as a computer
> >>>>>>professional might surpass the current available resources available
> >>>>>>to you. The industry will produce progress/innovation to be marketed,
> >>>>>>yet does anyone really think it is for the consumers, or is it
> >>>>>>for corporate industry. People will always want the latest and the
> >>>>>>greatest as long as they have money to burn, and corporations are
> >>>>>>ready willing and able to exploit their egos. We all know that the
> >>>>>>vast computers sold are targeted for end users to email, web browse,
> >>>>>>gaming, and let us not forget the parts on the web that make the most
> >>>>>>money! I need not mention.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>So in conclusion, my comment "fast enough & Overkill" are valid points
> >>>>>>as long as the technology used as of now by end users can keep up
> >>>>>>with the Internet, but as trends make todays technology out of date
> >>>>>>the market will always have a guaranty of more revenue through the
> >>>>>>pocketbooks of the consumers.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Ron Maggio
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Fast Enough" will always be relative to current needs. As
> >>>>>> more, and
> >>>>>> higher quality, content feeds come online more bandwidth will
> >>>>>> be needed.
> >>>>>> I can still remember people telling me that 56k was all you
> >>>>>> would ever
> >>>>>> need. Then came streaming video, and to get a good quality
> >>>>>> feed you
> >>>>>> really needed to get broadband. "Fast Enough" assumes that
> >>>>>> there will
> >>>>>> not be any progress/innovation in multimedia formats or
> >>>>>> content
> >>>>>> distribution.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So, for the long term outlook it is hardly overkill. Is it
> >>>>>> overkill to
> >>>>>> have a 200GB hard drive? Maybe it is today, but in 2-3 more
> >>>>>> years it
> >>>>>> won't. We, as a society, are putting more data online
> >>>>>> everyday, and with
> >>>>>> that comes more need for bandwidth and storage.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Also, Verizon is talking about using the same feed to create
> >>>>>> its own
> >>>>>> cable network. This just might break the cable monopolies that
> >>>>>> currently
> >>>>>> exist in! each city. After all, your only choices right now
> >>>>>> are satellite
> >>>>>> or cable if you want more content than is on public airwaves.
> >>>>>> This would
> >>>>>> also drive the need for bandwidth.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The downside to this is that they are talking about making
> >>>>>> access to the
> >>>>>> fiber lines closed, unlike the current phone lines. They argue
> >>>>>> that this
> >>>>>> is required because the current cable companies have closed
> >>>>>> access.
> >>>>>> Personally, I would prefer it if BOTH the phone company and
> >>>>>> cable
> >>>>>> company were required to have open access. This would be
> >>>>>> better for the
> >>>>>> consumer in terms of competition and innovation. If the
> >>>>>> cable/phone
> >>>>>> companies have closed access they can then regulate what can
> >>>>>> and what
> >>>>>> cannot be put on the network, thus killing the end-toend
> >>>>>> concept that
> >>>>>> the internet was created on. Innovation would then be
> >>>>>> regulated by those
> >>>>>> companies as well. Anyone remember the time when AT&T
> >>>>>> regulated what
> >>>>>> could and what could not be attached to their phone lines?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Some o! ther alternatives to access may become available as
> >>>>>> well, like
> >>>>>> this one:
> >>>>>>
> http://www.cbc.ca/story/science/national/2004/07/16/anik040716.html.
> >>>>>> Granted, it's a bit more expensive, but that may change as
> >>>>>> more
> >>>>>> companies put up similar satellites.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The more competition and innovation, the better.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tim
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 01:54, Ronald Maggio wrote:
> >>>>>> > Over kill, unless your running a business big time and
> >>>>>> really need the
> >>>>>> > bandwidth and the speed it gives you, or are into
> >>>>>> interactive gaming
> >>>>>> > over the Internet in a big way!
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > I have ADSL through Verizon at $34.95 a month, and its fast
> >>>>>> enough for
> >>>>>> > the average user. ie: Student, Home to mid size Business,
> >>>>>> and so on.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Ron
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>Tim,
> >>>>Just to let you know, I have been waiting for broadband access in my
> >>>>area for years (I'm 5 miles from my central office) but a few months ago
> >>>>they installed new equipment where I was able to have dsl installed in
> >>>>my home. I'm in lancaster and am not sure if It' a town-to-town thing
> >>>>but it may be worth calling verizon up to see if it's now available in
> >>>>your area.
> >>>>
> >>>>Bob Randal
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>adventsystems at verizon.net
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>
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