partitions

[Cyber Source]

Anytime. You should try to make next weekends meeting (Sunday 1:00),
maybe you could even bring the box and we could have at it?
On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 17:21, Mark Robson wrote:

> Ahh... the cure for all ills... I remember saying
> exactly that.  Couldn't understand the open source
> world's disdain for MS.  M$?  Eyes wide shut, indeed.
> 
> Will try your idea with a small twist - I can see both
> part'ns on the 80gb drive (yes, FAT) and might just
> move the C: into the D: as a directory and then
> proceed as you describe.  Just enough pain to make me
> remember the lesson - those who do not learn to backup
> are doomed to reinstall everything.  
> 
> Will be a day or two before I am able to get at this. 
> Looking forward to it.
> 
> BTW, I'm determined to learn enough to show my
> teenagers what they can do with Linux - Yahoo/GAIM
> will help there, too.  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> --- Cyber Source <peter at thecybersource.com> wrote:
> > I do this all the time because alot of my clients
> > decide that xp is a
> > cure-all for there ills and just install it, only to
> > find out that there
> > is no support for ISA hardware, etc and one guy
> > actually lost all
> > functionality of his previous m$ office stuff
> > because he had not
> > activated it yet! This pissed him off so much, he
> > wanted me to save all
> > his data and put him back on win98. I usually back
> > up everything and
> > since you tell me that you can mount this xp side
> > from Linux, I am going
> > to assume that xp is on a fat partition (versus
> > ntfs), so this should be
> > easy. If you have room somewhere for this, make a
> > zip or tar the xp
> > side. Keep in mind that windows (at least 98) cannot
> > see a file size
> > larger than 4gb. Once backed up, you can redo your
> > windows side to
> > whatever and restore the data. Any data you had
> > saved can be reused, if
> > it is not environment dependent (needs to be in
> > registry, etc) All you
> > doc's, mp3's, whatever should be fine. 
> > In my dual boot scenario's, I backup the whole
> > windows side to one file,
> > keep in on the Linux side (don't have to worry about
> > file size) and then
> > use Gnome's file roller to extract the stuff, or
> > show the clients how to
> > extract files and then move them to the new windows
> > side. Then when they
> > are sure they have everything, they can delete the
> > saved file.
> > There would be alot of bumps in the road for a
> > newbie to do this, feel
> > free to keep asking questions.
> > 
> > On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 09:24, Mark Robson wrote:
> > 
> > > I have been having trouble with WinXP
> > > (Ex-productivity?), and wish I'd learned to
> > segregate
> > > all those user-environment related files out
> > before
> > > the @#$($#@
> > >
> >
> driver-corruption/page-fault/IRQ_not_less_than/circus
> > > started last month.  Now I can't get past the
> > > rebooting during load, cannot reinstall XP, cannot
> > get
> > > into safe mode.  I've made a real mess of it, and
> > want
> > > to end the madness.  Irony:  I got into the mess
> > > because I was adding CDRW so I could BACKUP MY
> > FILES! 
> > > DOH!
> > >  
> > > I have an idea to use Linux as my solution, and
> > please
> > > advise how this might go;  I have a dual-boot
> > > setup, with RH8 linux installed onto a second hard
> > > drive.  I'm able to boot into RH8 and mount the xp
> > > partition.  (RH8 server, with Samba, although I'm
> > > totally an enduser, not admin.)  Can I sort out
> > the
> > > important files (*.doc/xls/htm mostly) and put
> > them
> > > aside in the penguin partition, then format the xp
> > > partition and install 98?  I can see 'how' to do
> > this,
> > > but here's the point:
> > >  
> > > Does transferring these files from xp to linux and
> > > back to 98 cause any problems with the integrity
> > of
> > > the files themselves?  As enduser, not admin, I'll
> > use
> > > a more gui (Gnome)than command line approach. 
> > Would
> > > not open or operate on the files beyond moving
> > them.  
> > >  
> > > Original idea, which I can't make happen on the
> > > Win/Loser setup any more, was to move the XP
> > partition
> > > up and create a new partition to install 98 onto. 
> > Was
> > > going to do that after I got the drives backed up,
> > > never got that far.  I use PartitionMagic, and it
> > > would do this in win non-destructively.  Is there
> > any
> > > comparable Linux partition program that is also
> > > non-destructive?  
> > >  
> > > Other details:
> > > About 2gb of user-environment related files to
> > move.
> > > Three hard drives altogether:
> > > 80gb WD, partitioned into two 40gb windows.
> > > 8gb  Fujitsu, windows single partition
> > > 10gb Maxtor, Linux, RH8 server default partition
> > > scheme
> > > Celeron p3 400, 384mb, 16mb agp video.
> > > Broadband connection
> > > The machine is part of a home peer2peer network,
> > but
> > > that is just to share the broadband and printers. 
> > The
> > > other machines are 98's.
> > >  
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >  
> > > Mark
> > > 
> > > peter <pvant67 at wnyip.net> wrote:
> > > Sorry for the long absence, it's been
> > strange/terrible
> > > at best here.
> > > 
> > > My comment about partitions: Anything I think will
> > > matter to me in the 
> > > long run gets a separate partition, esp. /home and
> > > /usr/local.
> > > 
> > > That's the only reason I've been able to keep
> > > essentially the same user 
> > > environment for so many years (1999-2000) to
> > present.
> > > Back then, I did 
> > > things on a Compaq 486. Now, it is 2 or 3 hardware
> > > systems later, but 
> > > /home hasn't changed much. The contents are
> > similar
> > > but the capabilities 
> > > are greater.
> > > 
> > > The way I do things, the rest of the system is
> > > disposable. You already 
> > > know there's going to be upgrades, betas, etc.
> > /home
> > > isn't disposable - 
> > > its the stuff you spent the last few years
> > creating.
> > > Hence, I never use 
> > > the default partition schemes (I use RH9), and I
> > > default to a custom 
> > > install in order to preserve this.
> > > 
> > > Hence, I would definitely give /home its own
> > > partition; you can safely 
> > > wipe and re-install the system without touching
> > it, if
> > > you opt to 
> > > partition it manually.
> > > 
> > > Hope this helps someone - Pete
> > 
> > -- 
> > Cyber Source <peter at thecybersource.com>
> > 
> 
> 
> =====
> 
> Mark Robson
> 
> 
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