partitions

[Mark Robson]

Ahh... the cure for all ills... I remember saying
exactly that.  Couldn't understand the open source
world's disdain for MS.  M$?  Eyes wide shut, indeed.

Will try your idea with a small twist - I can see both
part'ns on the 80gb drive (yes, FAT) and might just
move the C: into the D: as a directory and then
proceed as you describe.  Just enough pain to make me
remember the lesson - those who do not learn to backup
are doomed to reinstall everything.  

Will be a day or two before I am able to get at this. 
Looking forward to it.

BTW, I'm determined to learn enough to show my
teenagers what they can do with Linux - Yahoo/GAIM
will help there, too.  

Thanks,

Mark


--- Cyber Source <peter at thecybersource.com> wrote:
> I do this all the time because alot of my clients
> decide that xp is a
> cure-all for there ills and just install it, only to
> find out that there
> is no support for ISA hardware, etc and one guy
> actually lost all
> functionality of his previous m$ office stuff
> because he had not
> activated it yet! This pissed him off so much, he
> wanted me to save all
> his data and put him back on win98. I usually back
> up everything and
> since you tell me that you can mount this xp side
> from Linux, I am going
> to assume that xp is on a fat partition (versus
> ntfs), so this should be
> easy. If you have room somewhere for this, make a
> zip or tar the xp
> side. Keep in mind that windows (at least 98) cannot
> see a file size
> larger than 4gb. Once backed up, you can redo your
> windows side to
> whatever and restore the data. Any data you had
> saved can be reused, if
> it is not environment dependent (needs to be in
> registry, etc) All you
> doc's, mp3's, whatever should be fine. 
> In my dual boot scenario's, I backup the whole
> windows side to one file,
> keep in on the Linux side (don't have to worry about
> file size) and then
> use Gnome's file roller to extract the stuff, or
> show the clients how to
> extract files and then move them to the new windows
> side. Then when they
> are sure they have everything, they can delete the
> saved file.
> There would be alot of bumps in the road for a
> newbie to do this, feel
> free to keep asking questions.
> 
> On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 09:24, Mark Robson wrote:
> 
> > I have been having trouble with WinXP
> > (Ex-productivity?), and wish I'd learned to
> segregate
> > all those user-environment related files out
> before
> > the @#$($#@
> >
>
driver-corruption/page-fault/IRQ_not_less_than/circus
> > started last month.  Now I can't get past the
> > rebooting during load, cannot reinstall XP, cannot
> get
> > into safe mode.  I've made a real mess of it, and
> want
> > to end the madness.  Irony:  I got into the mess
> > because I was adding CDRW so I could BACKUP MY
> FILES! 
> > DOH!
> >  
> > I have an idea to use Linux as my solution, and
> please
> > advise how this might go;  I have a dual-boot
> > setup, with RH8 linux installed onto a second hard
> > drive.  I'm able to boot into RH8 and mount the xp
> > partition.  (RH8 server, with Samba, although I'm
> > totally an enduser, not admin.)  Can I sort out
> the
> > important files (*.doc/xls/htm mostly) and put
> them
> > aside in the penguin partition, then format the xp
> > partition and install 98?  I can see 'how' to do
> this,
> > but here's the point:
> >  
> > Does transferring these files from xp to linux and
> > back to 98 cause any problems with the integrity
> of
> > the files themselves?  As enduser, not admin, I'll
> use
> > a more gui (Gnome)than command line approach. 
> Would
> > not open or operate on the files beyond moving
> them.  
> >  
> > Original idea, which I can't make happen on the
> > Win/Loser setup any more, was to move the XP
> partition
> > up and create a new partition to install 98 onto. 
> Was
> > going to do that after I got the drives backed up,
> > never got that far.  I use PartitionMagic, and it
> > would do this in win non-destructively.  Is there
> any
> > comparable Linux partition program that is also
> > non-destructive?  
> >  
> > Other details:
> > About 2gb of user-environment related files to
> move.
> > Three hard drives altogether:
> > 80gb WD, partitioned into two 40gb windows.
> > 8gb  Fujitsu, windows single partition
> > 10gb Maxtor, Linux, RH8 server default partition
> > scheme
> > Celeron p3 400, 384mb, 16mb agp video.
> > Broadband connection
> > The machine is part of a home peer2peer network,
> but
> > that is just to share the broadband and printers. 
> The
> > other machines are 98's.
> >  
> > Thanks in advance.
> >  
> > Mark
> > 
> > peter <pvant67 at wnyip.net> wrote:
> > Sorry for the long absence, it's been
> strange/terrible
> > at best here.
> > 
> > My comment about partitions: Anything I think will
> > matter to me in the 
> > long run gets a separate partition, esp. /home and
> > /usr/local.
> > 
> > That's the only reason I've been able to keep
> > essentially the same user 
> > environment for so many years (1999-2000) to
> present.
> > Back then, I did 
> > things on a Compaq 486. Now, it is 2 or 3 hardware
> > systems later, but 
> > /home hasn't changed much. The contents are
> similar
> > but the capabilities 
> > are greater.
> > 
> > The way I do things, the rest of the system is
> > disposable. You already 
> > know there's going to be upgrades, betas, etc.
> /home
> > isn't disposable - 
> > its the stuff you spent the last few years
> creating.
> > Hence, I never use 
> > the default partition schemes (I use RH9), and I
> > default to a custom 
> > install in order to preserve this.
> > 
> > Hence, I would definitely give /home its own
> > partition; you can safely 
> > wipe and re-install the system without touching
> it, if
> > you opt to 
> > partition it manually.
> > 
> > Hope this helps someone - Pete
> 
> -- 
> Cyber Source <peter at thecybersource.com>
> 


=====

Mark Robson



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