[nflug] Linux Certification

Mon Oct 8 22:42:33 EDT 2007

Hello, I usually just lurk on here but feel compelled to respond to this 
thread.

There is one case where (for right or for wrong) certifications are 
important: those who are employed by computer or IT resellers.  Often a 
computer reseller has the requirement by a manufacturer whose product they 
sell to have one or more on staff with certain certifications. They are 
usually manufacturer-specific certifications, such as a HP certified 
engineer. To obtain a HP certification, for example, in addition to the 
HP-specific hardware certs you also need an operating system cert, either a 
MCSE or RHCE.  If a reseller gets multiple employees on staff with 
certifications, they can reach different levels with a manufacturer (Silver, 
Gold, Platinum) that each come with different benefits to the reseller. 
These different levels basically provide advantages to the reseller that 
enable them to be more competitive (pricing-wise and otherwise) with other 
resellers.

I worked for a reseller for a few years and certifications were a condition 
of employment, either obtaining new ones or keeping them current.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David J. Andruczyk" <djandruczyk at yahoo.com>
To: <nflug at nflug.org>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nflug] Linux Certification

>
> Here's an example for the job I just got recently. My
> employer had interviewwed about 25-30 people or so
> before they hired me.  About 80% of those had certs of
> some form or another.  I have zero certs (I don't
> believe in them) but had 10+years of real world
> experience with linux (from academia to professional
> consulting) and the evidence to back that up and could
> relay that to them in a way that fit what they were
> looking for, hence I got the job.
>
> Sharp employers want real world experience, and you
> had better be able to prove it to them,  not with a
> slip of paper that says you are a good test taker.  If
> you're finding you can't get those higher level jobs,
> you're probably aiming a bit too high.  there's no
> shame in starting lower, working harder, and
> innovating your way up (or up and out to something
> with better future).  Many people have the delusion,
> that their cert(s) gives them the right to a high
> paying "dream job".  In the real world things don't
> work that way.  It's experience, and hard work that
> gets you there, and certs don't necessarily convey any
> "experience" at all, If anything they can reflect on
> you  negatively as a "shortcut-taker", looking for the
> fast way in.
>
>
> --- anthonyriga <torrodimerda at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> What about Redhat? There tests are hands on. I did
>> get
>> a Linux+ just to see if I could do it. It did have
>> alot of security questions on it that was valuable
>> to
>> know too. Sometimes Certs are good for guys who
>> maybe
>> dont have degrees or Human resource depts making the
>> requirements are asking for them. I did get a degree
>> too so that always helps. I have seen many job
>> advertisemants wanting people to have some sort of
>> cert specially MSCE ands ccna.
>>
>>
>> BTW
>> Linux+
>> A+
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- "David J. Andruczyk" <djandruczyk at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > IMHO linux certs are about as worthwhile as a
>> > Windows Vista coupon...  (same as windoze certs).
>> > If you want to impress an employer.  DO SOMETHING
>> > with linux, esp something creative,  whether it be
>> > SW development, scripting, sys admin work, etc...
>> > the paper means essentially zilch, sa it doesn't
>> > convey EXPERIENCE which is what employers want..
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > mihakriket <mihakriket at msn.com> wrote:
>> .hmmessage
>> > P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage {
>> > FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma }  Does anyone
>> > have any of the Linux certification? In the
>> Buffalo
>> > area is worth getting any of the Linux
>> > certifications? If so, what is the best
>> > certification to get? I have seen a couple of
>> > different certification that are out their. Any
>> > feedback would be helpful.
>> >  Thank you..
>> >
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