911

vlok stone vlokstone at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 9 08:21:47 EDT 2005


Actually, I tried calling 911 and it worked. The FCC
required 
VoIP providers to inform subscribers of the
limitations you spoke of, and if you don't acknowledge
it they're supposed to cut you off until you do. So,
if you go VoIP only make sure you have an fxo port in
your adapter or Asterisk box. I came across this hack
for the linksys PAP2 ( apparently Staples has 
a rebate that make them free). If you're up for the
challenge
here's the link. http://www.telephreak.org/PAP2/



--- John Seth <johnseth at phoenixwing.com> wrote:

> VoIP E911 service is a bit better now, thanks to the
> FCC raising hell 
> with VoIP providers.  The issue, originally, is that
> when you took your 
> VoIP phone somewhere, and called 911, you *might*
> have gotten a 
> non-emergency phone number to anywhere.  In other
> words, you ordered 
> service in Buffalo, NY and took your phone with you
> when you traveled to 
> Houston, TX.  You slip and fall and are in need of
> 911, so you call... 
> only to find out that the 911 number you called was
> actually redirected 
> to a non-essential phone number in Buffalo that no
> one is answering 
> since it's 2am. This issue happened too many times,
> many people died 
> since they themselves, or other people attempted to
> use VoIP phones for 
> 911... thus prompting the FCC to take action and
> require VoIP providers 
> to provide proper 911 services.
> 
> The FCC recently stepped in and said VoIP providers
> MUST provide a 
> proper 911 solution, or clearly state and repeat
> several times, and make 
> the customer sign a waiver stating 911 is not
> available.  Since people 
> wouldn't go for that, the typical response of VoIP
> providers is to ask 
> customers for the physical address of the VoIP phone
> system.  Then, they 
> send any 911 calls to the local 911 center WITH the
> details you 
> provide.  Here's the sticky part though....
> 
> If you pick up your VoIP phone and take it to
> Houston, you MUST update 
> your providers directory information, or else your
> 911 call WILL go to 
> the Buffalo address.  The information you give to
> your provider is sent 
> to the 911 call center, just the same as if your
> normal phone made the 
> call.
> 
> Having just moved to Phoenix, AZ ... I opted to buy
> my Cable TV, Cable 
> Internet and VoIP service in one package, thus
> sparing me of a landline 
> phone for $20 more per month.  I hope this clears up
> VoIP issues.  Also, 
> if your VoIP provider is sending your 911 calls to 
> non-essential/non-emergency phone numbers, report
> them... it is now 
> illegal to do so.
> 
>  -   Tony
> 
> 
> JJ Neff wrote:
> > Vonage actually suggest you call 911 ONCE when you
> have VOIP to test 
> > that you
> > get routed and answered.
> >
> > JJN
> >
> > --- vlok stone <vlokstone at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >> That's what I thought. Never tried because I
> don't
> >> know the repercussions. Actually when you get no
> voice
> >> dsl they assign you a telephone number. Mine is
> >> ###-#### although when you call it says it's
> >> disconnected. So can you call 911 as a test
> >> or do they get really pissed if you do that?
> >>
> >> --- JJ Neff <jjneff at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>> Yes it goes to call center type solution and
> >>> depending on your situation this
> >>> may not be manned 24X7.  Since you can pick up
> your
> >>> VOIP device and plunk it
> >>> down in, say, Tucson AZ, tmrw they have no way
> to
> >>> tie your device to a
> >>> location, thus the manual address.
> >>> It also will not do enhanced 911 ( although
> VOnage
> >>> claims it is in the works)
> >>> where if you dial, your address automatically
> shows
> >>> up even if no one can
> >>> speak.
> >>>
> >>> These risks are VERY well documented and I do
> >>> believe a land line has to dial
> >>> 911 if it is connected - even if no active
> service
> >>> is enabled.  Folks with
> >>> serious medical concerns should definitely keep
> a
> >>> backup
> >>>
> >>> JJ
> >>>
> >>> --- Josh Johnson <joshj at linuxmail.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>> I have vonnage. I'm not sure if it is required
> or mandatory for 
> >>>> them, but they have a 911 solution. You have to
> signup for it. Fill 
> >>>> out a form that gives your street address, etc
> (since they can't 
> >>>> trace your call to an address). Then when I
> call 911, my 
> >>>> understanding is that it doesn't go to an
> official 911 center, but 
> >>>> it goes somewhere where they can dispatch the
> appropriate 
> >>>> authorities and they will have my address. HTH
> >>>>
> >>>> -Josh
> 


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