[nflug] ssh file transfer

[pirrone]

eric wrote:
> so MC will run through ssh?
>
> pirrone at localnet.com wrote:
>
>   
>> Eric, this is something I do all the time.  I open a floating,
>> invisible, transparent Eterm and sftp into my school server over VPN,
>> and in another window doing the same with ssh I open Midnight
>> Commander.  This gives me the ability to "bounce" files from home to
>> school and in some cases up to BOCES' Web server which requires an IP
>> along their backbone to connect.  Beauty with MC is I can simply shell
>> out (Ctrl-o) to ftp www.tona.wnyric.org <http://www.tona.wnyric.org>,
>> upload what I've bounced from home, download and reenter MC to edit
>> the downloaded pages or documents, shell back out and upload.  Slick
>> as shit...
>>     
Eric,

Roger that, and at absolutely full speed.  I can move so quickly in MC, 
shelling out and issuing CLI commands, shelling back in, hopping in and 
out of the editor, copying and pasting from my computer at home into 
edit mode at the remote end - wanna grab a file you have a link for at 
home, just swipe it with the cursor (mouse or shift key as desired) 
switch to the window or screen where the SSH session is running, shell 
out of MC, type wget (space) and middle click to drop the URL, press 
enter and with the gigabit pipe we have at school the file is just 
THERE, stay where you are and execute it or pop back into MC's two-pane 
display and F4 to edit, rinse...repeat...that anyone who has only used 
Windows, or I'd assume Macintosh though I rarely cross paths with those 
folks, is guaranteed to be astounded.

I find few GUI applications that even approach MC in power and speed and 
efficiency.  Here's the magical mystery ethereal floating invisible 
Eterm that I run all this in:

Mod1 f  :ExecCommand Eterm --trans --borderless --scrollbar off 
--buttonbar off --geometry 100x44+185+65 --font 10x20 --foreground-color 
white -e mc >/dev/null
2>&1

Note:  Taken from the ~/.fluxbox/keys file, Mod1 is the Alt key and "f" 
is the other key that together execute this command.  All that's needed 
to launch this title-bar-less, window-frame-less, scroll-bar-less, 
transparent MC instance is:

Eterm --trans --borderless --scrollbar off --buttonbar off --geometry 
100x44+185+65 --font 10x20 --foreground-color white -e mc

And, to enjoy mind-boggling complete transparency, even of MC itself, 
place this into the ~/.mc/ini file:

[Colors]
base_color=normal=white,default:directory=white,default:marked=yellow,default:selected=gray,white:
executable=brightgreen,default:link=lightgray,default:stalelink=brightred,default:special=brightblue,default:
device=magenta,default:editnormal=white,default 

all one one line.

Visit:  http://members.localnet.com/~fpirrone/eterm/

I've got the same degree of enthusiasm about FluxBox.  It's light as a 
feather on your system, therefore supporting extreme image and sound 
processing, and super fast.  Hard to imagine anything more efficient.  
In general it seems to me that the farther away you get from the Unix 
paradigm of small single-purpose applications piped together at the CLI 
the lower you sink into the abyss of inefficiency. 

Windows typifies this from a different perspective:  For beginners, and 
don't lose sight of the fact that this OS is used by the most 
experienced and technical and demanding people within that pathetic 
world, it holds your hand quite nicely - Gates' dream of a computing 
appliance. 

However, you quickly reach a point where all the cute icons, god 
forsaken wizards, castanet mouse-clicking frenzy, overlapping windows 
and all the rest of the pre-programmed bullshit representing one 
company's vision of how people want to compute becomes an absolute 
obstacle to further progress. 

Moreover, the user's isolation from the mechanism by which the OS 
performs it's tasks as well as the interaction between the OS and 
applications keeps him/her at the appliance-user's level of insight, 
knowledge, and competence.  If I want to be "creative" with my toaster 
appliance, what are my options?  Warm up a roast beef sandwich?  French 
toast?  Grilled cheese sandwich?  Cook a hamburger patty? 

No, this perfect prototypical archetypal appliance, to which Windows 
doth so devoutly aspire only works as it's designer designed.  Learning 
curve?  None.  Manual?  No.  Experts jump right in and get perfectly 
tropically tanned toast the first time?  You bet.  Morons eventually 
figure out the correct setting of the single adjustment allowed.  Well, 
pretty quickly - even if they require a call or two to tech support!

Where do you want to go today?  Sorry, that's not on the single approved 
itinerary.

Now, and god help me I'll wrap this up if I've got to gnaw off my own 
hand, I really don't mean this as a knock against Windows, or Macintosh 
which I mentioned initially but didn't return to by name, but rather to 
extol the profound virtues of the Unix/Linux way.  Totally 
open-endedness and total empowerment.  The more you learn, the faster 
you go, and the farther you go, and the more you leave the new paradigm 
behind.

Frank
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