linux in the classroom

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Ok, I gotta jump in.
  I like what your trying to do but I think your approach is wrong. If 
your focus is going to be applications in an emulator be it wine, 
vmware, etc., your already starting out in second position, because the 
killing question is going to be "why are we doing this?"
  They may be able to save some money, etc. but I myself have had 
resounding success with Linux conversion focusing on security and stability.
  The most volatile thing a windows pc user will face is the internet, 
and there are already superior NATIVE apps that run in Linux like 
FireFox, Thunderbird, GAIM, etc..
  I just checked the latest wine app called Point2Play for a client of 
mine that wants to run his windows games but not windows. Still the same 
goofy wine crap. Wine has embarrassed me many times ;). A windows app, 
whatever it is, will never run as good in wine as it will in windows, 
then that "why?" question will come up again.
  Please don't take this the wrong way, I'm not trying to step on any 
toes. I love to see guys doing what your doing, I just want us all to 
use our collective experiences to see that when someone like yourself 
does this, it's successfull and IMHO, focusing on windows apps in an 
emulator is by far not the best way to get Linux in the door. Windows 
people often get clouded by the myriad of apps and tend to loose focus 
on what there doing, I see this everyday.
  Linux apps come out everyday and they are getting better and better 
all the time. If they should need a windows app for something, vmware is 
the best that I've seen, I have entire corporations running Linux 
desktops for all there internet, email, office stuff and vmware windows 
for whatever windows only app they need. It's been a slow hard struggle 
but not only has it gotten easier (as far as there acceptance) but it's 
continuing to snowball.
  Good Luck and if you need any help along the way, I'd be happy to help.

vlok stone wrote:

>Win4Lin is a possibility. The free version only
>supports 95 & 98 apps. If you need 2k or Xp have to
>pay, Vmware may then be the better solution. I think
>Peter (who raves about it) previously said at a
>meeting that he can resell at a good price, somewhat
>below the usual cost. Contact him for details. 
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>--- "Eric R. Benoit" <ebenoit at hopevale.com> wrote:
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>>A small high school.
>> I would like to test/setup a small lab of student
>>computers with linux 
>>and an "emulator" to run win32 software that the
>>school purchased.  I am 
>>having difficulty trying to find a free emulator if
>>it even exists (Wine 
>>is limiting).  I also have not used an emulator
>>before and am not sure 
>>how well it would perform (hopefully better than
>>windows) and would be 
>>unsure of it's scalability with the software we have
>>and will purchase.  
>>For instance we have a II tier server application
>>for reading that uses 
>>IPX.  I don't see why it wouldn't work, but I also
>>don't no any problems 
>>that could occur running win32 applications that are
>>meant for 
>>connectivity accross a network.  "I" lack in this
>>area, and I just want 
>>to know enough that will satisfy me to start working
>>on such a project.  
>>Would an emulator run ALL my win32 software?  Would
>>an emulator need a 
>>beefy computer to run on?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Eric
>>
>>pirrone wrote:
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>>>Eric R. Benoit wrote:
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>>>>Well, I popped the question to a possible
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>>inexpensive stable 
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>>>>solution.  Not sure how it was taken though.
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>>>Eric,
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>>>Where's that, and what functionality?
>>>
>>>Frank
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