[nflug] Help needed Initializing a new notebook disk drive

Joe josephj at main.nc.us
Thu Jan 1 15:29:26 EST 2009


Right.  Thanks, especially because you helped me figure out how to do
that in the first place.  ;)

Joe

Cyber Source wrote:
> nevermind the last line.
>
> Cyber Source wrote:
>> ok, whatever this is....<snip># -- This file has been automaticly
>> generated by *"ntfs-config*" --</snip>, doesnt know what it's doing
>> with your fstab file. What did this and why would it?
>>
>> 1. Your options for your root mount have many redundancies. The
>> options for "nouser, atime" are default options for ext3 and don't
>> need to be specified. The options for "rw, suid, exec, auto, nouser"
>> are declared with the option "defaults", which you already have in
>> there, so those are all redundant.
>> 2. The option "dev" is probably screwing with your udev system and
>> should be taken out.
>> 3. The ONLY options you should have for your / is
>> "relatime,errors=remount-ro", that's it.
>> 4. Since whatever wrote this file made so many errors for your root
>> filesystem options, I wouldn't trust the blkid's either. Verify your
>> blkid's and make sure your mounts are proper AND that swap is being
>> used. Run "df -h" and make sure root is right and then "dmesg|grep
>> swap" to make sure swap is really being used.
>> 5. Check the file /etc/initramfs/conf.d/resume and make sure the swap
>> partitions blkid is correct, if not, change it then run
>> "update-initramfs -u -k all".
>> 6. Check your blkid's with this "sudo blkid /dev/sda4", and so on.
>> 7. I have only ever used the option "defaults" for ntfs-3g and it
>> just works. I could see a reason for the umask option but not the
>> rest. The umask=0002 is going to mount the system 775 for everybody
>> so I really don't see the need for the gid= setting and the others
>> are redundant.
>>  So, I would clean up the options for the ext3 and ntfs-3g partitions
>> and maybe udev would start acting properly. If you need to have the
>> usb stuff declared for directory mounts, that's fine but you need to
>> verify the blkids and clean up the options. Remember, fstab consists
>> of 6 fields separated by white space. The first 4 are required, the
>> other 2, if missing, assume 0. The fifth is only used by dump, so if
>> your not using dump, a zero should at least be put there so that the
>> 6th field is present, which is used by fsck. If you don't want the
>> file system checked on boot, put a zero here (which will be assumed
>> if missing). I would always have / with a 1 (will check and with
>> first priority) and if you want any other partitions checked on boot,
>> give them all a 2.
>>
>>
>> Also, udev should be at work for all your usb stuff, why are you
>> declaring your usb partitions in fstab?
>>
>> Joe wrote:
>>> /dev/sdc only appears when the drive is plugged in, so I don't think
>>> that's it.
>>> fstab below:
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> bigbird at sananda:~$ cat /etc/fstab
>>> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
>>> #
>>> #  -- This file has been automaticly generated by ntfs-config --
>>> #
>>> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
>>>
>>> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
>>> # Entry for /dev/sda4 :
>>> UUID=c171912f-5148-41b9-a2e3-70a68361cc57 / ext3
>>> nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
>>> # Entry for /dev/sda6 :
>>> UUID=0deaaf4c-bacb-4644-a3f1-96c46c1b8844 none swap sw 0 0
>>> /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660
>>> user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
>>> /dev/sda1 /media/windoze ntfs-3g
>>> auto,rw,gid=1002,umask=0002,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
>>> # Entry for /dev/sda2 :
>>> UUID=5f8bb6e5-f6f7-486e-97aa-06fd6dc3dbfd /media/dataspace ext3
>>> nouser,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
>>> #Entry for /dev/sdb2 - joelinusb2 usb Linux partition
>>> UUID=290fdbe2-4535-4b43-a035-7805062cb069 /media/joelinusb2 ext3
>>> user,async,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
>>> # Entry for /dev/sdb1 - joewinusb usb drive Windows partition
>>> UUID=0BDD76C77F0F8CEE /media/joewinusb ntfs-3g
>>> user,noauto,rw,gid=1002,umask=0002,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
>>>
>>> bigbird at sananda:~$  Cyber Source wrote:
>>>  
>>>> whats in your fstab file? what are the chances that your dvd/cd is
>>>> actually sdc and it's not seeing the new drive at all?
>>>>
>>>> Joe wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>> Here's the output for dmesg and fdisk.  dmesg shows how it handles my
>>>>> internal drive (sda) and my FreeAgent USB drive (sdb2) (bought it
>>>>> before
>>>>> the article about Seagate dropping support for Linux).  The last two
>>>>> lines show it sees sdc, but fdisk isn't having any.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you know if a 1.5 MB/sec controller can handle a 3MB/sec drive?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for looking into this further.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>>> bigbird at sananda:~$ sudo fdisk /dev/sdc
>>>>>
>>>>> Unable to read /dev/sdc
>>>>> bigbird at sananda:~$
>>>>> bigbird at sananda:~$ dmesg | grep sd
>>>>> [   31.978128] Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type
>>>>> methods
>>>>> [   31.981229] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] 234441648 512-byte hardware sectors
>>>>> (120034 MB)
>>>>> [   31.981257] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
>>>>> [   31.981263] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
>>>>> [   31.981300] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache:
>>>>> enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
>>>>> [   31.981400] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] 234441648 512-byte hardware sectors
>>>>> (120034 MB)
>>>>> [   31.981424] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
>>>>> [   31.981429] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
>>>>> [   31.981467] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache:
>>>>> enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
>>>>> [   31.981474]  sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 < sda5 > sda4
>>>>> [   32.027345] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
>>>>> [   32.036425] sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
>>>>> [   34.959860] sd 0:0:0:0: [sdb] 488397168 512-byte hardware sectors
>>>>> (250059 MB)
>>>>> [   34.961470] sd 0:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
>>>>> [   34.961479] sd 0:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 1c 00 00 00
>>>>> [   34.961485] sd 0:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
>>>>> [   34.963859] sd 0:0:0:0: [sdb] 488397168 512-byte hardware sectors
>>>>> (250059 MB)
>>>>> [   34.965465] sd 0:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
>>>>> [   34.965474] sd 0:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 1c 00 00 00
>>>>> [   34.965479] sd 0:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
>>>>> [   34.965491]  sdb: sdb1 sdb2
>>>>> [   34.991407] sd 0:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
>>>>> [   34.991485] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
>>>>> [   53.533600] sdhci: Secure Digital Host Controller Interface driver
>>>>> [   53.533608] sdhci: Copyright(c) Pierre Ossman
>>>>> [   57.853803] sdhci: SDHCI controller found at 0000:08:06.3
>>>>> [104c:803c]
>>>>> (rev 0)
>>>>> [   58.885622] Adding 1767076k swap on /dev/sda5.  Priority:-1
>>>>> extents:1
>>>>> across:1767076k
>>>>> [   59.407078] EXT3 FS on sda4, internal journal
>>>>> [   60.965326] EXT3 FS on sda2, internal journal
>>>>> [   65.379312] audit(1230746295.196:2): type=1503
>>>>> operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="a::" denied_mask="a::"
>>>>> name="/dev/tty" pid=5709 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd"
>>>>> namespace="default"
>>>>> [  159.538730] EXT3 FS on sdb2, internal journal
>>>>> [ 3994.249820] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk
>>>>> [ 3994.249909] sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
>>>>> bigbird at sananda:~$                  Cyber Source wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>     
>>>>>> what does "dmesg|grep sd" return?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe wrote:
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did it and the drive shows up as /dev/sdc now (my other usb
>>>>>>> drive is
>>>>>>> plugged in and is /dev/sdb).
>>>>>>> *But* fdisk doesn't seem to see the new drive (see below).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What now?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bigbird at sananda:~/pq$ ls /dev/sd*
>>>>>>> /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sda4  /dev/sda5
>>>>>>> /dev/sdb  /dev/sdb1  /dev/sdb2  /dev/sdc
>>>>>>> bigbird at sananda:~/pq$ fdisk -l
>>>>>>> bigbird at sananda:~/pq$ sudo !!
>>>>>>> sudo fdisk -l
>>>>>>> [sudo] password for bigbird:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Disk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes
>>>>>>> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders
>>>>>>> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
>>>>>>> Disk identifier: 0x1ea71ea6
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
>>>>>>> /dev/sda1   *           1        5099    40957686    7  HPFS/NTFS
>>>>>>> /dev/sda2            5100        8986    31222327+  83  Linux
>>>>>>> /dev/sda3           14000       14219     1767150    5  Extended
>>>>>>> /dev/sda4            8987       13999    40266922+  83  Linux
>>>>>>> /dev/sda5           14000       14219     1767087   82  Linux
>>>>>>> swap /
>>>>>>> Solaris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Partition table entries are not in disk order
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Disk /dev/sdb: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
>>>>>>> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
>>>>>>> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
>>>>>>> Disk identifier: 0x000979ea
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
>>>>>>> /dev/sdb1               1        6384    51279448+   7  HPFS/NTFS
>>>>>>> /dev/sdb2            6385       30401   192916552+  83  Linux
>>>>>>> bigbird at sananda:~/pq$
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cyber Source wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>> The gparted cd probably does not have the usb storage module
>>>>>>>> loaded.
>>>>>>>> Boot the laptop with kbuntu, then plug it in. as root, type "fdisk
>>>>>>>> -l", if it sees the drive, there's nothing wrong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joe wrote:
>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>> I just got a new drive for my notebook.  The old drive still
>>>>>>>>> works,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> has some bad spots on it (that are out of the way for now).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The notebook is an HP dv5020us Centrino Duo.  It is dual boot
>>>>>>>>> kubuntu
>>>>>>>>> hardy and Win XP.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The new HD is Hitachi HTS543232L9A300 5400rpm SATA 320GB 3GB/s
>>>>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>>>> I thought I ordered a 1.5 GB/s drive, but that's not what the
>>>>>>>>> label on
>>>>>>>>> the drive says.
>>>>>>>>> My old (current) drive (/dev/sda) is a 120GB 1.5GB/s drive
>>>>>>>>> (ST9120821AS)
>>>>>>>>> ATA-5 4200rpm and my controller is probably a 1.5GB/s controller.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is that enough to make the new drive incompatible with my system?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I hooked up the drive to my notebook using a Vantec SATA/IDE
>>>>>>>>> to USB
>>>>>>>>> 2.0
>>>>>>>>> adapter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I plug it into the usb port, nothing seems to happen, but
>>>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>>>>> look, I see that /dev/sdb appears when the drive is plugged
>>>>>>>>> in.  the
>>>>>>>>> drive is very quiet, but I can hear it spinning when I put it
>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>> to my
>>>>>>>>> ear.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I rebooted the notebook from my gparted live CD.
>>>>>>>>> I expected gparted to be able to see and setup the new drive,
>>>>>>>>> but it
>>>>>>>>> does not see it at all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I thought about swapping the new and old drive in the notebook
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> booting from gparted again, but since gparted can see and work
>>>>>>>>> with my
>>>>>>>>> other usb drive (currently unplugged), I'm not sure if that will
>>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do I do next?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a blinking rebate to send in right away, so I need to
>>>>>>>>> determine
>>>>>>>>> if the drive will work asap.
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