[nflug] Help needed Initializing a new notebook disk drive

Cyber Source peter at thecybersource.com
Thu Jan 1 12:35:34 EST 2009


nevermind the last line.

Cyber Source wrote:
> ok, whatever this is....<snip># -- This file has been automaticly 
> generated by *"ntfs-config*" --</snip>, doesnt know what it's doing 
> with your fstab file. What did this and why would it?
>
> 1. Your options for your root mount have many redundancies. The 
> options for "nouser, atime" are default options for ext3 and don't 
> need to be specified. The options for "rw, suid, exec, auto, nouser" 
> are declared with the option "defaults", which you already have in 
> there, so those are all redundant.
> 2. The option "dev" is probably screwing with your udev system and 
> should be taken out.
> 3. The ONLY options you should have for your / is 
> "relatime,errors=remount-ro", that's it.
> 4. Since whatever wrote this file made so many errors for your root 
> filesystem options, I wouldn't trust the blkid's either. Verify your 
> blkid's and make sure your mounts are proper AND that swap is being 
> used. Run "df -h" and make sure root is right and then "dmesg|grep 
> swap" to make sure swap is really being used.
> 5. Check the file /etc/initramfs/conf.d/resume and make sure the swap 
> partitions blkid is correct, if not, change it then run 
> "update-initramfs -u -k all".
> 6. Check your blkid's with this "sudo blkid /dev/sda4", and so on.
> 7. I have only ever used the option "defaults" for ntfs-3g and it just 
> works. I could see a reason for the umask option but not the rest. The 
> umask=0002 is going to mount the system 775 for everybody so I really 
> don't see the need for the gid= setting and the others are redundant.
>  So, I would clean up the options for the ext3 and ntfs-3g partitions 
> and maybe udev would start acting properly. If you need to have the 
> usb stuff declared for directory mounts, that's fine but you need to 
> verify the blkids and clean up the options. Remember, fstab consists 
> of 6 fields separated by white space. The first 4 are required, the 
> other 2, if missing, assume 0. The fifth is only used by dump, so if 
> your not using dump, a zero should at least be put there so that the 
> 6th field is present, which is used by fsck. If you don't want the 
> file system checked on boot, put a zero here (which will be assumed if 
> missing). I would always have / with a 1 (will check and with first 
> priority) and if you want any other partitions checked on boot, give 
> them all a 2.
>
>
> Also, udev should be at work for all your usb stuff, why are you 
> declaring your usb partitions in fstab?
>
> Joe wrote:
>> /dev/sdc only appears when the drive is plugged in, so I don't think
>> that's it.
>> fstab below:
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> bigbird at sananda:~$ cat /etc/fstab
>> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
>> #
>> #  -- This file has been automaticly generated by ntfs-config --
>> #
>> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
>>
>> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
>> # Entry for /dev/sda4 :
>> UUID=c171912f-5148-41b9-a2e3-70a68361cc57 / ext3
>> nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
>> # Entry for /dev/sda6 :
>> UUID=0deaaf4c-bacb-4644-a3f1-96c46c1b8844 none swap sw 0 0
>> /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 
>> user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
>> /dev/sda1 /media/windoze ntfs-3g
>> auto,rw,gid=1002,umask=0002,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
>> # Entry for /dev/sda2 :
>> UUID=5f8bb6e5-f6f7-486e-97aa-06fd6dc3dbfd /media/dataspace ext3
>> nouser,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
>> #Entry for /dev/sdb2 - joelinusb2 usb Linux partition
>> UUID=290fdbe2-4535-4b43-a035-7805062cb069 /media/joelinusb2 ext3
>> user,async,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
>> # Entry for /dev/sdb1 - joewinusb usb drive Windows partition
>> UUID=0BDD76C77F0F8CEE /media/joewinusb ntfs-3g
>> user,noauto,rw,gid=1002,umask=0002,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
>>
>> bigbird at sananda:~$  
>> Cyber Source wrote:
>>  
>>> whats in your fstab file? what are the chances that your dvd/cd is
>>> actually sdc and it's not seeing the new drive at all?
>>>
>>> Joe wrote:
>>>    
>>>> Here's the output for dmesg and fdisk.  dmesg shows how it handles my
>>>> internal drive (sda) and my FreeAgent USB drive (sdb2) (bought it 
>>>> before
>>>> the article about Seagate dropping support for Linux).  The last two
>>>> lines show it sees sdc, but fdisk isn't having any.
>>>>
>>>> Do you know if a 1.5 MB/sec controller can handle a 3MB/sec drive?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for looking into this further.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> bigbird at sananda:~$ sudo fdisk /dev/sdc
>>>>
>>>> Unable to read /dev/sdc
>>>> bigbird at sananda:~$
>>>> bigbird at sananda:~$ dmesg | grep sd
>>>> [   31.978128] Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type 
>>>> methods
>>>> [   31.981229] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] 234441648 512-byte hardware sectors
>>>> (120034 MB)
>>>> [   31.981257] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
>>>> [   31.981263] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
>>>> [   31.981300] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache:
>>>> enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
>>>> [   31.981400] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] 234441648 512-byte hardware sectors
>>>> (120034 MB)
>>>> [   31.981424] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
>>>> [   31.981429] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
>>>> [   31.981467] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache:
>>>> enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
>>>> [   31.981474]  sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 < sda5 > sda4
>>>> [   32.027345] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
>>>> [   32.036425] sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
>>>> [   34.959860] sd 0:0:0:0: [sdb] 488397168 512-byte hardware sectors
>>>> (250059 MB)
>>>> [   34.961470] sd 0:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
>>>> [   34.961479] sd 0:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 1c 00 00 00
>>>> [   34.961485] sd 0:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
>>>> [   34.963859] sd 0:0:0:0: [sdb] 488397168 512-byte hardware sectors
>>>> (250059 MB)
>>>> [   34.965465] sd 0:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
>>>> [   34.965474] sd 0:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 1c 00 00 00
>>>> [   34.965479] sd 0:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
>>>> [   34.965491]  sdb: sdb1 sdb2
>>>> [   34.991407] sd 0:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
>>>> [   34.991485] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
>>>> [   53.533600] sdhci: Secure Digital Host Controller Interface driver
>>>> [   53.533608] sdhci: Copyright(c) Pierre Ossman
>>>> [   57.853803] sdhci: SDHCI controller found at 0000:08:06.3 
>>>> [104c:803c]
>>>> (rev 0)
>>>> [   58.885622] Adding 1767076k swap on /dev/sda5.  Priority:-1 
>>>> extents:1
>>>> across:1767076k
>>>> [   59.407078] EXT3 FS on sda4, internal journal
>>>> [   60.965326] EXT3 FS on sda2, internal journal
>>>> [   65.379312] audit(1230746295.196:2): type=1503
>>>> operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="a::" denied_mask="a::"
>>>> name="/dev/tty" pid=5709 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" namespace="default"
>>>> [  159.538730] EXT3 FS on sdb2, internal journal
>>>> [ 3994.249820] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk
>>>> [ 3994.249909] sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
>>>> bigbird at sananda:~$                  Cyber Source wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>      
>>>>> what does "dmesg|grep sd" return?
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe wrote:
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did it and the drive shows up as /dev/sdc now (my other usb 
>>>>>> drive is
>>>>>> plugged in and is /dev/sdb).
>>>>>> *But* fdisk doesn't seem to see the new drive (see below).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What now?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bigbird at sananda:~/pq$ ls /dev/sd*
>>>>>> /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sda4  /dev/sda5
>>>>>> /dev/sdb  /dev/sdb1  /dev/sdb2  /dev/sdc
>>>>>> bigbird at sananda:~/pq$ fdisk -l
>>>>>> bigbird at sananda:~/pq$ sudo !!
>>>>>> sudo fdisk -l
>>>>>> [sudo] password for bigbird:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Disk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes
>>>>>> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders
>>>>>> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
>>>>>> Disk identifier: 0x1ea71ea6
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
>>>>>> /dev/sda1   *           1        5099    40957686    7  HPFS/NTFS
>>>>>> /dev/sda2            5100        8986    31222327+  83  Linux
>>>>>> /dev/sda3           14000       14219     1767150    5  Extended
>>>>>> /dev/sda4            8987       13999    40266922+  83  Linux
>>>>>> /dev/sda5           14000       14219     1767087   82  Linux swap /
>>>>>> Solaris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Partition table entries are not in disk order
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Disk /dev/sdb: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
>>>>>> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
>>>>>> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
>>>>>> Disk identifier: 0x000979ea
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
>>>>>> /dev/sdb1               1        6384    51279448+   7  HPFS/NTFS
>>>>>> /dev/sdb2            6385       30401   192916552+  83  Linux
>>>>>> bigbird at sananda:~/pq$
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cyber Source wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>               
>>>>>>> The gparted cd probably does not have the usb storage module 
>>>>>>> loaded.
>>>>>>> Boot the laptop with kbuntu, then plug it in. as root, type "fdisk
>>>>>>> -l", if it sees the drive, there's nothing wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe wrote:
>>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>>> I just got a new drive for my notebook.  The old drive still 
>>>>>>>> works,
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> has some bad spots on it (that are out of the way for now).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The notebook is an HP dv5020us Centrino Duo.  It is dual boot
>>>>>>>> kubuntu
>>>>>>>> hardy and Win XP.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The new HD is Hitachi HTS543232L9A300 5400rpm SATA 320GB 3GB/s
>>>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>>> I thought I ordered a 1.5 GB/s drive, but that's not what the
>>>>>>>> label on
>>>>>>>> the drive says.
>>>>>>>> My old (current) drive (/dev/sda) is a 120GB 1.5GB/s drive
>>>>>>>> (ST9120821AS)
>>>>>>>> ATA-5 4200rpm and my controller is probably a 1.5GB/s controller.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is that enough to make the new drive incompatible with my system?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hooked up the drive to my notebook using a Vantec SATA/IDE to 
>>>>>>>> USB
>>>>>>>> 2.0
>>>>>>>> adapter.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I plug it into the usb port, nothing seems to happen, but
>>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>>>> look, I see that /dev/sdb appears when the drive is plugged 
>>>>>>>> in.  the
>>>>>>>> drive is very quiet, but I can hear it spinning when I put it next
>>>>>>>> to my
>>>>>>>> ear.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I rebooted the notebook from my gparted live CD.
>>>>>>>> I expected gparted to be able to see and setup the new drive, 
>>>>>>>> but it
>>>>>>>> does not see it at all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought about swapping the new and old drive in the notebook and
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> booting from gparted again, but since gparted can see and work
>>>>>>>> with my
>>>>>>>> other usb drive (currently unplugged), I'm not sure if that will
>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do I do next?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a blinking rebate to send in right away, so I need to
>>>>>>>> determine
>>>>>>>> if the drive will work asap.
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