Modems

Cyber Source peter at thecybersource.com
Mon May 6 21:30:48 EDT 2002


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As the hardware evolves, so will/must the software. I think the newer Mandrake distros run the win/lin modems just fine, have not had any problems at all. The only reason I am even using them now is because the newer motherboards are being made without ISA slots and the PCI hardware modems are ridiculous in price. My .04 cents worth (previously added .02 to this subject :) )
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On Mon, 2002-05-06 at 21:11, Ronald Maggio wrote:
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>From: &quot;Ken Galle&quot; &lt;kagalle at infoblvd.net&gt;</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>To: &lt;nflug at nflug.org&gt;</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:58 PM</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Subject: Re: Modems</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; Though I agree external is the simplest way to get there, it is worth</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>noting that there is one bright spot for internal modems - actiontec.  All</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>of there modems are complete/full/not-winmodem modems, even the pci.  I have</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>an isa, but also checked out pci and they have the</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; Actiontec 56K PCI PCI Master</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&lt;-------------------------------------snip----------------------------------</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Hi. I have one of those Actiontec modems in my AMD box with Mandrake 8.1 Its</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>an ISA model it works ok, but it is not as stable as others I've used. It</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>will not work under dev/modem so I had to choose the ttys1 in other words</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>com2 in order to get it to work. Also it does not connect up at a nice speed</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>all the time. Often I have to disconnect and reconnect in order to get</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>connect at useable speed. It is a nice cheep modem and I mean cheep. You get</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>what you pay for! I would recommend to invest in a better quality modem like</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>3com usr or zoom something like that. These are of a better quality and more</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>stable.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Also if you've read the reviews about Actiontec modems you'll find out that</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>this modem is a bit unstable and problematic.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Hardware (controller) modems are going to get harder to find (and one day</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>out of production) if windoze has their way.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>So you and I and everone else will find that the only available modems in</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>the near future will be winmodems. Boy does that suck. So much for having</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>the ability to find equipment for our (somewhat) legacy boxes on the stores</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>shelfs. So buy up the stuff while you can I say just in case. I know I'm</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>always looking around for stuff that the masses are asses are junking at the</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>curb for parts that I've been collecting and sorting for spairs and extras.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Get enough of the stuff together and you can Frankenstein a nice legacy box</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>out of it. Well this is my two cents worth. Thanks:)</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Ron Maggio</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; For awhile they were available at walmart.  Some setup info from their web</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>site, which basically boils down to telling linux where and what type of</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>UART is in the modem, nothing wierd like patching kernels, etc (though I've</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>have good success doing that with the LT modems)...</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; http://www.actiontec.com/support/modems/pcimasterfaq.html#installlinux</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; # cat /proc/pci</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; The following is an example of information to look for:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; Bus  0, device  12, function  0:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     Communication controller: Lucent (ex-AT&amp;T)</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;      Microelectronics Unknown device (rev 0).</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;       Vendor id=11c1. Device id=480.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;       Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  IRQ 11.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;         Master Capable.  No bursts.  Min Gnt=252.Max Lat=14.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;       Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe0800000</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;        [0xe0800000].</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;       I/O at 0xa000 [0xa001].</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;       I/O at 0x9800 [0x9801].</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;       I/O at 0x9400 [0x9401].</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; Write down the first I/O range. The example shows that I/O is 0xa000. The</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>values may vary, depending on the system. Then type</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; # setserial /dev/ttyS3 port 0xa000 spd_vhi skip_test auto_irq autoconfig</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; and hit enter.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; If there are no errors, then type</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; # setserial /dev/ttyS3 uart 16550A</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; On Sun, 5 May 2002 21:09:41 -0400</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &quot;S. Lawton &quot; &lt;green_man at bluefrognet.net&gt; wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt; Which would be easier, to install an external modem, or recompile</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt; my kernel with the neccessary drivers to make the HSP modem</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt; card work ?</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt;</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt; My goals are: a) to NOT crash my linux box anymore.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt;                      b) to get the aforementioned on the internet with</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>as</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt; little grief as possible.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt;</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt; I know absolutely nothing about external modems except that</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt; they're an external device with all the HARDWARE required to do</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt; what a modem is supposed to do. I have a serial and two USB</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt; ports available.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt;</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt; I have located and downloaded the [hopefully] correct targz with the</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt; drivers to make the PCtel HSP56 software modem work in linux,</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt; but I don't think I have the compiler unless Mandrake 8.1 gave it as</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt; part of the default rpms. I have the PCtel modem mini-Howto if</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt; anyone cares to read it for correctness. It makes a big deal about</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt; how you can break your machine and do this entirely at your own</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt; risk, and I'm very hesitant to fool with my kernel.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt;</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt; Any input for or against either option gratefully accepted.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt;</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt;</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; &gt; Scott</FONT></FONT></I>
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