[nflug] 64 bit edumacation

Wed Jan 23 18:55:03 EST 2008

to access all 4GB of a system , use the PAE kernel :)

Yes ther are advantages of 64 bit, but in many cases you need to have the RESOURCES  (i.e. morethan 4 GB or ram) to make it worthwhile to actualy use a 64 bit OS.

most OSS apps build and run fine on 64 bit,  it's those binary only apps that are troublesome,  flash,  nvidia/ATI drivers (some work, some don't in 64 bit mode)  hence for your avg user who doesn't have more that 4Gigs of ram,  a 64 bit OS doesn't gain them much of anything.

-- David J. Andruczyk

----- Original Message ----
From: paul <paul at paulcosta.com>
To: nflug at nflug.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:43:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nflug] 64 bit edumacation

Yea running a 64bit os on a 64 bit processor is pointless. LOL 

Not everyone uses their computer systems with concern for  IT work

You forgot about those of us who run heavy graphics programs like Maya,
Graphics rendering and video editing

Additionally, the only way to use 4Gb of memory on my MB is to use a
64bit OS

3 GB ram is the max memory allowed that any 32bit OS will recognize (my
MB limits)

The 64 bit processor has twice the registers to store the next
instruction set

Thats twice the amount as a 32 bit system

A 64bit os will run most 32 apps with no problem

And no I don't enjoy suffering

paul costa

David J. Andruczyk wrote:

  64
bit edumacation

OK, here goes.  Just because your CPU is 64 bit capable DOES NOT MEAN
you should run a 64 Bit OS.

Reasons to run a 64 bit OS:

     You have more that 4 GB of RAM and need to address all of it
without using PAE (Page Address Extension)

     You need VERY large virtual memory ranges (large
databases/datasets)

     You like to suffer...  (optional)

If you do NOT have 4 GB of RAM and/or are not running a very large
database then running a 64 bit OS is POINTLESS.  You end up causing
more problems for yourself when you try and run apps that are not avail
in 64 bit  or perform extra poorly(i.e. flash, wine, etc)

64 bit CPU's can run 32 bit linux just fine,  ask anyone with a Core2
CPU (which is 64 bit (most/all of them). 

Save yourself the pain and just use the 32 bit flavor of linux.

-- David J. Andruczyk

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Original Message ----

From: Robert Stockdale IV <bobstockdale at gmail.com>

To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>; nflug at nflug.org

Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 4:00:10 AM

Subject: [nflug] Hal is messed up

I seem to have several problems with my computer since the last
upgrade. When I boot up or restart X and login I get an error message
that HAL could not be started. I fired up synaptic and it kills and
upgrade attempt with the error message:

E: /var/cache/apt/archives/hal_0.5.9.1-6ubuntu5_amd64.deb: subprocess
new pre-removal script returned error exit status 2

I then decide to remove HAL so I can do a fresh install of it and I get
this error message

E: hal: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should

However, it ends there and does not tell me what to do.

I've tried all the usual such as 

      apt-get -f  install

      synaptic fix broken packages

nothing helps. What do I need to do to resolve this, short of a
reinstall from CD or DVD. This is a Gutsy 7.10 on an AMD 64 system with
2 Gig RAM and 500Gig SATA HD.

Thanl you,

Bob. 

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