[nflug] samba woes

eric eric at bootz.us
Wed Mar 7 15:39:11 EST 2007


one samba server is the file server
the other two are just sharing folders for me and no one else, my user
account is on all three seperatly, and since I was the first user
created for each my UID is 1000, I changed my UID on the file server to
1500 just to see if that would make a difference, but it did not...
again none of the servers depend on each other for anything and they are
all in the same workgroup.

it is mind boggling to me... I thought maybe pam or shadow passwords was
doing something funny, but on both samba servers I cannot change my
password without samba failing me a connection, I must use my old
password for samba. 

I would understand that maybe linux to samba password sync would not
work on one server, but  two makes me think that something else is going
on ...something interfering with samba over the network... its like when
your internet goes down and you try to visit a website and your browser
says "not available" then the internet is back on and you try to go to
the same website with the same error only you know the internet is up
...and you simply have to refresh your browser ...sorry getting loopy


David J. Andruczyk wrote:

>So you are managing user accounts manually across all 3 boxes??
>
>Ouch,  painful. 
>
>So this seems like two linux boxes and one windows box?
>is the windows box just a workstation, or a server ?
>
>How many unique users, and do they all need to access all machines
>equally? 
>
>
>--- eric <eric at bootz.us> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>No your doing great.  I have been slowly moving myself away from
>>webmin,
>>it was a great tool to learn from, because I can look at the
>>module
>>configurations to see where all my reconfigurations are going.
>>
>>Back to the issue:
>>I don't have a smbusers file in /etc/samba/
>>
>>I have 2 servers running samba shares and one server running
>>windows
>>shares, none of which has ever been setup to manage user account
>>centrally... and I am very sure of this
>>
>>David J. Andruczyk wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>I don't recommend webmin.  I don't like gui tools that hide what
>>>they are doing, as it makes it much harder to fix problems.
>>>Do you have an /etc/samba/smbusers file (username map paramter)
>>>that is mapping windos usernames to samba users?  (this can be a
>>>source of trouble if not setup correctly).
>>>
>>>How many servers in your environment?  just this one?
>>>
>>>If you have an NT domain, and all your users have access in one
>>>form or another to all boxes, if would make sense to make the
>>>machine a member of the domain and manage access centrally.
>>>
>>>Without knowing how things are setup and supposed to work there.
>>>      
>>>
>>I
>>    
>>
>>>can't offer you a clean end all solution.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--- eric <eric at bootz.us> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>When I try to connect to a samba share from a windows computer
>>>>after I
>>>>log in and have changed my password for both linux and samba
>>>>        
>>>>
>>via
>>    
>>
>>>>webmin
>>>>I cannot log in.  However, if I do the same proceedure for
>>>>        
>>>>
>>other
>>    
>>
>>>>users
>>>>it works fine... the users are able to connect to the samba
>>>>shares after
>>>>I change their passwords.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Eric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>David J. Andruczyk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>WHICH password,  linux login SW  or samba password, and via
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>how?
>>    
>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>i.e. logged in running "passwd", or smbpasswd,  or via windows
>>>>>change password from a Ctrl-Alt-Del.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--- eric <eric at bootz.us> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>I just wanted to reiterate that changing other users'
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>passwords
>>    
>>
>>>>>>work
>>>>>>fine, but mine does not
>>>>>>
>>>>>>here are some of smb.conf flags:
>>>>>>***********
>>>>>>passwd chat = *Enter\snew\sUNIX\spassword:* %n\n
>>>>>>*Retype\snew\sUNIX\spassword:* %n\n
>>>>>>obey pam restrictions = yes
>>>>>>winbind enable local accounts = no
>>>>>>dns proxy = no
>>>>>>security = user
>>>>>>unix password sync = yes
>>>>>>**************
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I also have myself as an admin user for each share
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks again,
>>>>>>Eric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>eric wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm using webmin, in webmin I can set samba users to be
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>created
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>everytime I create a linux user.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for your help
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>David J. Andruczyk wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You didn't make it very clear which PW you changed (linux
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>login
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>PW or
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>sambs PW,  but you may want to look into "password sync"
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>and
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>"passwd
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>chat" parameters for smb.conf
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>but samba password sync will reset the UNIX login PW when a
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>user
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>changes their samba PW,  however this doesn't work two
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>ways.,
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>unless
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>you use the pam module pam_smb,  or setup winbindd which
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>will
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>allow
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>you to autheniticate your linux login-able accounts through
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>samba, or
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>an outside NT/window/samba pdc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>google is your friend for these topics as there's numerous
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>howto's but
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>you need to investigate your environment  (is it one
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>server?
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>or
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>part
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>of an AD/NT domain.) to  determine an appropriate course of
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>action.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>*/eric <eric at bootz.us>/* wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know there is a samba expert out there who might be
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>able
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>to help me.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a strange problem, firstly I have Linux users
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>sync-ing and
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> creating samba users, I have many users on a samba file
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>server when I
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> change their passwords everything works great, However
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>when
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> change my
>>>>>>>> password it only changes for my linux user, it is as if
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>either the
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> network has a cache of my old password and will now not
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>let
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>me into
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> samba shares or the samba password for only my user
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>account
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>will not
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> change ...I have even tried just changing my samba user
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>password with
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> still no luck.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any clues would really be nice, I think I have exhausted
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>all of my
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ideas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Eric
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-- David J. Andruczyk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>-- David J. Andruczyk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>>   
>>>>
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>>>-- David J. Andruczyk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
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>
>-- David J. Andruczyk
>
>
> 
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