[nflug] Verizon dsl
Joe
josephj at main.nc.us
Tue Feb 6 19:06:52 EST 2007
matt donovan wrote:
> I asked the tech guy from verizon how ot set up the modem correctly
> sicne I'd rahter use a router all I did was turn off Nat on the modem
> and that was all good. oh yeah I use level3 dns which is awesome
> compared to verizon's
>
> On 12/23/06, *Adam Laurich* <adam.cadpro at gmail.com
> <mailto:adam.cadpro at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Thats one annoyance I found with Verizon, by default, you had to
> use their proprietary windows software to set it up.
>
>
> On 12/23/06, *Tom Morgan* < samothyev at yahoo.com
> <mailto:samothyev at yahoo.com> > wrote:
>
> http://netservices.verizon.net/portal/link/help/item&case=21510
> <http://netservices.verizon.net/portal/link/help/item&case=21510>
>
> This should help.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tom Morgan < samothyev at yahoo.com
> <mailto:samothyev at yahoo.com>>
> To: nflug at nflug.org <mailto:nflug at nflug.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 12:55:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [nflug] Verizon dsl
>
> I have a linksys router and had to use the dsl modem as a
> bridge so that I could network all my systems. This has to be
> done becuase the nat for the dsl modem shares the same network
> as the linksys router. I can't seem to find the link I used to
> set this up but I had to change the router to PPOE and set the
> dsl modem to be used as a bridge. I will try to dig the link
> up for the destructions and post it when I do.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Cyber Source < peter at thecybersource.com
> <mailto:peter at thecybersource.com>>
> To: nflug at nflug.org <mailto:nflug at nflug.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 12:28:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [nflug] Verizon dsl
>
> Kyle Obear wrote:
> > One other gotcha with Verizon DSL is that their DNS servers
> are terribly slow. When I switched from Cable modem to DSL, I
> saw a HUGE drop in speed. I was eventually able to correlate
> it to their DNS servers taking up to 20 seconds to respond to
> a DNS query.
> >
> > To fix this, I installed bind, and I use it as a
> resolving/caching DNS server. In my setup, my linux box that
> is connected to the DSL line is a dedicated Firewall machine,
> with another server inside my network running squidd and
> bind. Now my DSL is faster than my Cable Modem ever was.
> >
> > Also, since the LAN interface on their router is on a
> 192.167.x.x network, and my internal network is a 10.x.x.x
> network, I use the 192.168.x.x network as a
> > "poor man's" DMZ. On the Verizon router, I have port
> forwarding setup for 80 and 443 to a server in the DMZ, while
> other traffic (Vonage, etc) get's forwarded to my Linux
> firewall and handled by IPTABLES.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Kyle
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com
> <mailto:justin.bennett at dynabrade.com>
> >> Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:39:07 -0500
> >> To: nflug at nflug.org <mailto:nflug at nflug.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [nflug] Verizon dsl
> >>
> >> Like Adelphia / Road Runner you will have a DSL modem that
> connects to
> >> the phone line, then to your PC on the LAN side. Verizon
> actually got
> >> smart, and every modem I've seen them use are actually NAT
> firewalls as
> >> well, your PC does not get the internet IP, but rather a
> 192.168.1.x (or
> >> other internal only) address. This means you actually
> manager their
> >> modem if you want to forward port to internal IPs. They
> used to block
> >> port 25 incoming for mail, but I remember working around it
> by putting a
> >> port on the MX record for the domain I was using. I think 80
> was blocked
> >> but I used 443 also.
> >>
> >> Since the modem is a NAT firewall you don't really need to
> use the
> >> router, I've actually had some greif running a netgear NAT
> router in
> >> conjunction with the Westell NAT DSL modem, some packet
> dropping issues,
> >> this all went away when I yanked the router and just put in
> a wireless
> >> access point.
> >>
> >>
> >> For installation:
> >> The DSL modem will plug into any avaliable phone jack you
> may have. So
> >> if you have a phone jack where you want to put the modem
> then your fine.
> >> From there you can run ethernet (or do wireless to your
> PCs). The big
> >> pain is that on any other phones (or other phone type
> device, tivos,
> >> modems, faxes, ext) you need to put a DSL filter to filter
> out the DSL
> >> signal. You obviously don't put this filter on the phone
> jack you pluged
> >> the DSL modem into.
> >>
> >> Justin
> >>
> >>
> >> Justin Bennett
> >> Network Administrator
> >> Dynabrade Inc.
> >> Clarence, NY
> >> 716-631-0100
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> anthonyriga wrote:
> >>
> >>> Where do you connect the modem too? DO i need to
> >>> provide my own wires? I ordered the online do it your
> >>> self. I wanna put the modem in my basement in my
> >>> computer room what wires do I need to run? And from
> >>> where? Any suggestions?
> >>> --- David Mangani < buckettruckdave at gmail.com
> <mailto:buckettruckdave at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hmmm,
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry I sent that last message by mistake. Anyways,
> >>>> I switched to
> >>>> Verizon DSL a few months ago. It seems to work fine.
> >>>> It is slightly
> >>>> slower than cable, however,not alot of difference. I
> >>>> did use a windows
> >>>> PC to initially set up my account. Basically it was
> >>>> just easier. Now
> >>>> that the account is set up, I have used FC6, ubuntu
> >>>> and now Debian on
> >>>> it all without any trouble. It seems that to
> >>>> initially set up and
> >>>> activate the account windows is easier. Not sure if
> >>>> it could be done
> >>>> from the get go with Linux. I don't know if the
> >>>> various ports are
> >>>> available for use or not. I can only say that I
> >>>> simply plug in my DSL
> >>>> modem let the lights wink on and connect the
> >>>> ethernet cable and it
> >>>> simply works. No real complaints here.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 12/22/06, David Mangani
> >>>> < buckettruckdave at gmail.com
> <mailto:buckettruckdave at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 12/22/06, anthonyriga < torrodimerda at yahoo.com
> <mailto:torrodimerda at yahoo.com>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> I have moved into the city and had RoadRunner
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> before.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> I am thinking of DSL. Are there any hitches in
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> setting
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> up with Linux? I looked over some of old threads
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> we
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> had to get some advice and I guess you need
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> WIndows or
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> MAc to set it up with software. Thats odd if you
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> are
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> hooking up a router to it which Im going to do.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> Do
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> they have port 80 open for web services? I know
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> RR
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> dosent. I use 443 for web and also DDNS and
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> sendmail
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> too. Any suggestions ? Storys? Advice? Should I
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> just
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> still use RR?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> I will second the dns notion! Verizon's dsl dns servers are
> really bad.
> One other thing I can't stand about dsl, actually adsl, is
> there dhcp!
> It is ridiculous, I've seen the IP's change by the hour!
> Actually been
> bumped offline while ssh'd into some boxes because the freakin IP
> changed. I never looked into it too much but they must have
> their dhcp
> servers set to expire on the hour. If it wasnt for the bad dns
> servers
> and the hyper dhcp settings, dsl is great, the service itself is
> extremely reliable and fast.
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I know this is an old thread, but can you tell me how to select a
different DNS than the Verizon default? I am running kubuntu dapper as
an end user system (no servers turned on that aren't there by default).
Joe
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