[nflug] POS BIOS

Cyber Source peter at thecybersource.com
Fri Dec 14 11:02:19 EST 2007


I don't have anything against Dell laptops, your probably thinking of 
when I always say that we can build a desktop better than anyone (in 
that the name brands tend to include crapola, ie maxtor, etc).
  How can anyone hate what just works?
p.s. Anyone that can easily view 1920x1200 on a 17" inch display must 
have bionic eyeballs....

Robert Meyer wrote:
> You know, I have this Dell XPS laptop that everything just works, 
> too.  I loaded Mandriva 2008 on it and everything was there.  Just had 
> to download the firmware for the wireless but that happened 
> automatically when I opened the configuration manager to set it up.  
> It has a 2G Centrino, 2G memory, 100G drive and nVidia GeForce Go 6800 
> Ultra running 1920x1200.  The thing ROCKS.  Unfortunately, it's owned 
> by the company I work for.  It even has bluetooth in it.  I just have 
> to figure out how to use bluetooth.  It even does the right things 
> when I close the lid or suspend to disk.
>
> I know Pete hates Dell laptops but this one is pretty nice.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Bob
>  
> --
> "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth 
> with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you 
> will always long to return."
> --Leonardo da Vinci
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Dennis Ruzeski <denniruz at gmail.com>
> To: nflug at nflug.org
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 9:50:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [nflug] POS BIOS
>
> I'll tell you what I like for linux laptops-- Thinkpads! I've had 4 of
> them and every bit of hardware worked and the bios is like a desktop
> bios.  My latest is a Z61m and I even got the fingerprint scanner to
> work.
>
> Just my $.02
>
> Happy Holidays,
>
> Dennis
>
> On Dec 14, 2007 9:30 AM, Robert Meyer <meyer_rm at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:meyer_rm at yahoo.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I don't have any help for this but would you mind letting us know 
> what kind
> > of laptop this thing is so that we can all avoid them?
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Bob
> >  --
> > "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth 
> with your
> > eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will 
> always long
> > to return."
> >  --Leonardo da Vinci
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Cyber Source <peter at thecybersource.com 
> <mailto:peter at thecybersource.com>>
> > To: nflug at nflug.org <mailto:nflug at nflug.org>
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 9:21:42 AM
> > Subject: [nflug] POS BIOS
> >
> >  Ok, gotta throw one out for some help.
> >  Long story short is, I have a laptop that I just purchased for a
> > client, has nvidia and runs perfect with Ubuntu Gutsy except for 1
> > little (kinda huge) problem.
> >  The bios that ships with most laptops lately , COMPLETELY SUCK  (I
> > hate phoenix). There is absolutely NOTHING in the bios to help control
> > acpi or apic. My problem is that I have NO SOUND unless I boot with the
> > kernel boot option of "acpi=off", then all works perfect except I have
> > no battery monitoring, which on a laptop is pretty huge, if this was a
> > desktop, it would be no biggie (not sure if it would affect ups
> > monitoring). I notice that I have ERR=1 from /proc/interrupts. I have
> > tried all sorts of combinations of boot options, including "noapic
> > nolapic pnpbios=off" and I forget the rest I've tried, nothing works
> > except for turning off acpi completely and then no battery monitor. I've
> > looked into apm but can't recompile the kernel because then all the
> > other "restricted" packages won't work with the custom kernel and that
> > option is basically a pain in the ass. I feel this is probably related
> > to the ERR=1 from interrupts but I can't seem to clear this, it only
> > gets worse with other boot options I've tried.
> > Does anyone know how to reroute irq's or make them behave better (yes
> > I've tried pci=routeirq)?
> > Has anyone else had this problem and found a solution?
> > Currently my work around is 2 grub boot stanza's, one is to have sound
> > which runs "acpi=off" and the other is to have no sound and everything
> > else works (battery monitor), without the "acpi=off" option.
> > Any help please? TIA
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