[nflug] #*!%@ intel crap!!!! SOLVED **** NOT

Cyber Source peter at thecybersource.com
Wed Nov 15 09:19:34 EST 2006


eric wrote:
> What about installing another sound card pcmci that would be a different
> approach... you could just tell them the sound card you put it in was
> free.  Not sure if this helped, hope so.
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>>>>>>>> Wow, after much much goolgeage.....The little trick seems to be
>>>>>>>> acpi=ht as a kernel boot argument. What a pain-in-the-***!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>> At least it has sound now, nothing worse than taking someones smokin
>>>>>>>> toshiba laptop with 17" wide screen, 2GB ram, etc., and saying, oh
>>>>>>>> every thing works good, wireless, etc., but no sound..
>>>>>>>> Freakin intel #%*!
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>>>>>>> Congratulations!
>>>>>>> I know my own frustrations with odd problems at times, and am glad this
>>>>>>> [finally] is one that you can put in the "win" column.
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>>>>>>> Please accept this virtual bottle of champagne to celebrate your victory.
>>>>>>> [pop!]
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>>>>>>> --John
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>>>>>> Nothin sweeter than finally figuring out some pain in the ass
>>>>>> problem....Gotta love it.
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>>>>> Well I can put the champagne away. Adding acpi=ht disables all acpi
>>>>> functions except hyper threading, including stuff like battery
>>>>> monitoring, etc., which on a laptop is pretty useful. So, I am stuck
>>>>> between working battery or working sound, WTF!!!! I tie this all down to
>>>>> the POS phoenix BIOS on this thing, IF you can call it a BIOS, it is SO
>>>>> simplistic it's not funny. I did see in the interrupts that the hda
>>>>> intel device is the only device listed as PCI-MSI and not IO-APIC like
>>>>> everything else. If anyone knows of some easy tricks for apic or apci
>>>>> for the kernel boot options, please let me know (no way I'm attempting a
>>>>> kernel recompile, as seems that most googleage suggests). Some magic
>>>>> command line that would make the sound and battery work in this thing
>>>>> would be wonderful.
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>>>> Well since I really don't expect a quick fix on this, I just made 2 boot
>>>> entries in grub, one to boot into if there going to be plugged in and
>>>> they'll have sound and the other to boot into if there going to be on
>>>> battery and need the notifications and such and they won't have sound.
>>>> Just another #@$! bullshit thing to have for Linux and have them say,
>>>> gee it all works well in windows....
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>>> MLB!
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>>> ["Major League Bummer"]
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>>> I know what you mean about the POS BIOS that some Toshi laptops use. My
>>> Satellite M35 has the same --or a similar--  and others in the Linux
>>> community have griped about it.  I like my Toshiba in most other
>>> respects just fine, but this CMOS is %$#&*.
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>>> I don't have time right now to do any real research. Got things to do as
>>> the wife is going in for surgery tomorrow AM.
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>>> Since my Toshi has NVIDIA graphics, I can't run any experiments
>>> parallel to yours, but one possible thing for you to try comes to my mind.
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>>> You're probably way ahead of me, considering how long you've been
>>> wrestling with this. But:
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>>> http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Kernel_Parameters_for_ACPI/APIC
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>>> What if you were to use the boot argument:
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>>> acpi_irq_pci=irq_number
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>>> and make certain it was using an irq that was not being used by the
>>> sound or any other vital device?
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>>> Sorry if I'm a day late / dollar short with that suggestion.  You
>>> probably already tried it.
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>>> Your work-around with the 2 boot options in GRUB would be fine for me to
>>> deal with on my own machine.  I almost never run the battery alone
>>> anyway.   But, I know, when you're working on somebody else's baby, it
>>> hurts the pride in one's workmanship  to have to deliver a job with a
>>> built-in band-aid solution.
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>>> Good luck. We'll get to the champagne on this one yet. . .
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>> thanks, I did try that line and it changed it to another irq (hda
>> intel), maybe I should have tried it with noapic, maybe I did, don't
>> remember now, did it so many times. It does suck to put out a box like
>> this, it always makes Linux look like it's laking, especially to
>> non-computer people, and these people are. These people are old mandrake
>> 8 clients of mine that came back and really were turned off by shit not
>> working in mandrake and I talked em round again, now this shit, freakin
>> intel/phoenix crapola!
>> 1 thing I can say, this box rocks and makes the xp media center side of
>> it look like a turtle!
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I appreciate the thought and I thought about that and either usb too but
being a laptop, those provide the ports, not the speakers, so I would
have to try and route it too the onboard speakers and that would
probably be a major pain too. Right now I got like 3 lost days on the
POS, I think it's time to cut my losses on it. I do appreciate all the
help guys (Brian actually called trying to help, thanks!) This lug might
not get together often or have big meetings when we do but it has a
great email list!
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