[nflug] Verizon dsl

Sat Dec 23 15:02:07 EST 2006

I asked the tech guy from verizon how ot set up the modem correctly sicne
I'd rahter use a router all I did was turn off Nat on the modem and that was
all good. oh yeah I use level3 dns which is awesome compared to verizon's

On 12/23/06, Adam Laurich <adam.cadpro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thats one annoyance I found with Verizon, by default, you had to use their
> proprietary windows software to set it up.
>
> On 12/23/06, Tom Morgan < samothyev at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >  http://netservices.verizon.net/portal/link/help/item&case=21510
> >
> > This should help.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Tom Morgan <samothyev at yahoo.com>
> > To: nflug at nflug.org
> > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 12:55:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nflug] Verizon dsl
> >
> >  I have a linksys router and had to use the dsl modem as a bridge so
> > that I could network all my systems. This has to be done becuase the nat for
> > the dsl modem shares the same network as the linksys router. I can't seem to
> > find the link I used to set this up but I had to change the router to PPOE
> > and set the dsl modem to be used as a bridge. I will try to dig the link up
> > for the destructions and post it when I do.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Cyber Source < peter at thecybersource.com>
> > To: nflug at nflug.org
> > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 12:28:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nflug] Verizon dsl
> >
> > Kyle Obear wrote:
> > > One other gotcha with Verizon DSL is that their DNS servers are
> > terribly slow.  When I switched from Cable modem to DSL, I saw a HUGE drop
> > in speed.  I was eventually able to correlate it to their DNS servers taking
> > up to 20 seconds to respond to a DNS query.
> > >
> > > To fix this, I installed bind, and I use it as a resolving/caching DNS
> > server.  In my setup, my linux box that is connected to the DSL line is a
> > dedicated Firewall machine, with another server inside my network running
> > squidd and bind.  Now my DSL is faster than my Cable Modem ever was.
> > >
> > > Also, since the LAN interface on their router is on a 192.167.x.xnetwork, and my internal network is a
> > 10.x.x.x network, I use the 192.168.x.x network as a
> > > "poor man's" DMZ.  On the Verizon router, I have port forwarding setup
> > for 80 and 443 to a server in the DMZ, while other traffic (Vonage, etc)
> > get's forwarded to my Linux firewall and handled by IPTABLES.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > > Kyle
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com
> > >> Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:39:07 -0500
> > >> To: nflug at nflug.org
> > >> Subject: Re: [nflug] Verizon dsl
> > >>
> > >> Like Adelphia / Road Runner you will have a DSL modem that connects
> > to
> > >> the phone line, then to your PC on the LAN side. Verizon actually got
> >
> > >> smart, and every modem I've seen them use are actually NAT firewalls
> > as
> > >> well, your PC does not get the internet IP, but rather a 192.168.1.x(or
> > >> other internal only) address. This means you actually manager their
> > >> modem if you want to forward port to  internal IPs. They used to
> > block
> > >> port 25 incoming for mail, but I remember working around it by
> > putting a
> > >> port on the MX record for the domain I was using. I think 80 was
> > blocked
> > >> but I used 443 also.
> > >>
> > >> Since the modem is a NAT firewall you don't really need to use the
> > >> router, I've actually had some greif running a netgear NAT router in
> > >> conjunction with the Westell NAT DSL modem, some packet dropping
> > issues,
> > >> this all went away when I yanked the router and just put in a
> > wireless
> > >> access point.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> For installation:
> > >> The DSL modem will plug into any avaliable phone jack you may have.
> > So
> > >> if you have a phone jack where you want to put the modem then your
> > fine.
> > >> From there you can run ethernet (or do wireless to your PCs). The big
> > >> pain is that on any other phones (or other phone type device, tivos,
> > >> modems, faxes, ext) you need to put a DSL filter to filter out the
> > DSL
> > >> signal. You obviously don't put this filter on the phone jack you
> > pluged
> > >> the DSL modem into.
> > >>
> > >> Justin
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Justin Bennett
> > >> Network Administrator
> > >> Dynabrade Inc.
> > >> Clarence, NY
> > >> 716-631-0100
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> anthonyriga wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Where do you connect the modem too? DO i need to
> > >>> provide my own wires? I ordered the online do it your
> > >>> self. I wanna put the modem in my basement in my
> > >>> computer room what wires do I need to run? And from
> > >>> where? Any suggestions?
> > >>> --- David Mangani < buckettruckdave at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hmmm,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sorry I sent that last message by mistake. Anyways,
> > >>>> I switched to
> > >>>> Verizon DSL a few months ago. It seems to work fine.
> > >>>> It is slightly
> > >>>> slower than cable, however,not alot of difference. I
> > >>>> did use a windows
> > >>>> PC to initially set up my account. Basically it was
> > >>>> just easier. Now
> > >>>> that the account is set up, I have used FC6, ubuntu
> > >>>> and now Debian on
> > >>>> it all without any trouble. It seems that to
> > >>>> initially set up and
> > >>>> activate the account windows is easier. Not sure if
> > >>>> it could be done
> > >>>> from the get go with Linux. I don't know if the
> > >>>> various ports are
> > >>>> available for use or not. I can only say that I
> > >>>> simply plug in my DSL
> > >>>> modem let the lights wink on and connect the
> > >>>> ethernet cable and it
> > >>>> simply works. No real complaints here.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Dave
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 12/22/06, David Mangani
> > >>>> < buckettruckdave at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hello,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 12/22/06, anthonyriga < torrodimerda at yahoo.com>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> I have moved into the city and had RoadRunner
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> before.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> I am thinking of DSL. Are there any hitches in
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> setting
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> up with Linux? I looked over some of old threads
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> we
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> had to get some advice and I guess you need
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> WIndows or
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> MAc to set it up with software. Thats odd if you
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> are
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> hooking up a router to it which Im going to do.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> Do
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> they have port 80 open for web services? I know
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> RR
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> dosent. I use 443 for web and also DDNS and
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> sendmail
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> too. Any suggestions ? Storys? Advice? Should I
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> just
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> still use RR?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
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> > I will second the dns notion! Verizon's dsl dns servers are really bad.
> > One other thing I can't stand about dsl, actually adsl, is there dhcp!
> > It is ridiculous, I've seen the IP's change by the hour! Actually been
> > bumped offline while ssh'd into some boxes because the freakin IP
> > changed. I never looked into it too much but they must have their dhcp
> > servers set to expire on the hour. If it wasnt for the bad dns servers
> > and the hyper dhcp settings, dsl is great, the service itself is
> > extremely reliable and fast.
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