[nflug] more fun with apt

[Stephen Burke]

Boice wrote:
> Stephen Burke wrote:
> 
>>Thanks.
>>Actually, I guess the source installation worked better than I thought
>>after all, here on edgy.
>>
>>Strangely, though, it doesn't want to start if I choose it from the
>>session menu - the complaint I didn't read clearly enough before I
>>guess. The only way to start it at this point is to starta failsafe
>>terminal and use "enlightenment_start". I would imagine there must be
>>some work around for that, but right now I'm just psyched to have
>>gotten it going at all. I wonder if REgetting it from the repos might
>>make it start up better?
>>
>>Still no mepis here yet, however. The dvd torrent is taking forever
>>and the cd install failed just after starting to prepare the disks
>>when I tried to put it where elive had been. At the moment, I'm
>>putting BLAG50k (fc5) there which has e17 in the repos, but is giving
>>me a big hassle getting X going for a regular user. Looks ugly enough
>>at the moment to merit a whole new thread if I can't sort it out.
>>Fortunately X still works for root, but it's (ouch!) gnome. Looking to
>>put mepis where another edgy install is giving me a hassle about
>>running a bzflag server properly (where it was very easy on an earlier
>>dapper install). Hoping mepis isn't quite so tempermental.
>>
>>I had to do a text install for blag50k because there wasn't enough
>>memory on that machine for the graphical installer to run -which could
>>be why mepis failed, I'm guessing - but root is showing me that X is
>>definitely there and working, just need to find a way to spread the
>>goodliness.
>>
>>Thw fun never stops.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>S.
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> 
> 
> Good. I was a bit surprised to hear it hadn't. Edgy really isn't all
> that unstable or unpredictable. Better than Dapper when it first came
> out, IMHO.
> 
> I am surprised to head about the Mepis CD install failure. When ever
> I've put it into pre-set partitions I've never had any problems. I
> usually create one partition for root, one for /home and one linux-swap,
> _prior_ to starting the installation.  One time I also did a separate
> /boot partition as well, and Mepis got along fine with that arrangement,
> too.
> 
> I've tried installing BLAG twice --um, last winter probably-- and could
> never get it to complete the install. Maybe the latest version is better.
> 
> RE: the e17 scene.   Have you tried Beryl as an alternative?
> 
> I've hear talk around the water cooler that Beryl blows  enlightenment
> away.  Not yet tried it, but I think  the memory requirements are e16:
> not so much, e17: +25%  Beryl : e16 x2. But that's guesstimating based
> on hearsay.
> 
> BTW, here's another site with repos of all kinds of rpms & debs,
> including e17 for ubuntu:
> http://seerofsouls.com/
> 
> I don't remember if you gave the hardware specs of the machine you're
> doing these installs on.  Puppy Linux might be worth trying out, if it's
> really a dog.   [Pun intended, but point is valid, too. I've never tried
> doing this, but I'd almost believe Puppy would run on a hand-cranked
> adding machine!]
> 
> Last item: if you have an open RAM slot,  stick in a stick. If you
> happen to use PC100  SDRAM  I have a couple 128MB  sticks left over
> from  upgrade/rebuild jobs I could sell you for $10 apiece. Not a heck
> of an upgrade, but  it can made a diff on an old clunker that only has
> 128 installed.
> 
> -Honest John
> "Used parts, worn-out punchlines. . . Computers and reputations rebuilt
> to order. Cash up front. Discounts for payment made in gold mint coinage
> or pre-1964 US silver coins. All work guaranteed until my passport
> application gets processed."
> 
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John, I would take you up on the ram offer, but the machine in question 
is actually an aging toshiba laptop (tecra 8200). P III, and  still 
struggling along with the 128M it came with. I have been putting off 
getting more in there for some time now. While it was working well, 
there didn't seem to be any point. After a week of X insanity over 
there, I finally broke dowm and just got some. I think that will sort 
out all my blag X problems.

It would figure that the edgy repos turn up right after I just used the 
dapper ones, but things seem to be working perfectly here, redoing e 
from the repos solved the startup thing as well.

Now, of course, I have to at least try beryl, since the cube of desktops 
looks too sweet, and e doesn't have that at all that I know of. It's the 
taskbars and shit that I don't like. Still, I only had a chance to 
glance at the site, but I will definitely revisit it. More shit to 
break! ;-)

I am as surprised at your blag difficulties as you are at mine with 
mepis. ALL of the machines here are pretty old and blag has been pretty 
friendly with them. Right up to the point where I screw things up again.
I have had difficulties with blag's X and nvidia cards, but that's about 
it. I still got it installed, but it doesn't want to go to a command 
line so I can install the driver, either through #init 3 or ctrl-alt-f1.
Runs great, just no bzflag.
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