[nflug] uhoh tar backup

eric eric at bootz.us
Wed Aug 9 15:30:11 EDT 2006


I am using cron through a webmin interface to schedule the ssh backups I
wonder if that had anything to do with it ...I'll run the cron backup
tar now to see if it reappears.



eric wrote:

>yes, thank you.
>
>anyway I found this strange -N file that wasn't recording it's size it
>seems maybe it was I don't know.
>
>the file  -N was located in a /root/webmin/cron/-N
>it was 156M
>
>so I deleted it
>
>
>Robert Meyer wrote:
>
>  
>
>>OK, before this gets out of hand...
>>
>>Very little in /proc actually uses real disk space.  The system creates files
>>that map to memory images.  That is to say that if you have 2 gigs of virtual
>>memory that *is being used*, then /proc will look like it is using more than 2
>>gigs of disk space.  This is phantom space.  It's really your virtual memory
>>mapped to look like files.  It's not *actually* using disk space.  When
>>checking the disk usage on a system, it's a good idea to exclude /proc from the
>>list of directories to check.
>>
>>Does this clear anything up?
>>
>>Cheers!
>>Bob
>>
>>--- eric <eric at bootz.us> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
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>>>/proc/kcore is at 805M
>>>
>>>joshj at linuxmail.org wrote:
>>>
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>>>
>>>>When we last left our adventurers...
>>>>
>>>>     
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>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>well I thought I only had 500M but I guess that can't be right unless
>>>>>swap took over??
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>I'm not 100% sure on this, but my understanding is that it is the size
>>>>of all used memory. swap and otherwise. So it should equal
>>>>the totals you get if you add up your used memory from the "free"
>>>>command.
>>>>Either way, it doesn't take up disk space. Nothing in /proc does.
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>joshj at linuxmail.org wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>When we last left our adventurers...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>ok this seems strange "/proc" is 775M
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>any clues?
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>How much RAM do you have? Its probably mostly kcore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.unixguide.net/linux/faq/04.16.shtml
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mark Musone wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It is taking so long because "*" in / will also match and count the
>>>>>>>>files in
>>>>>>>>/home,/tmp,/usr, and /var.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Manually put in the directory names, omitting those directories that
>>>>>>>>are on
>>>>>>>>other disks:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In the following case of my / directory:
>>>>>>>>-bash-2.05b# ls
>>>>>>>>bin  boot  dev  etc  home  initrd  lib  local  lost+found  mnt
>>>>>>>>mnt2  proc
>>>>>>>>root  sbin  tftpboot  tmp  usr  var
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"du -sk bin boot etc initrd lib local mnt mnt2 root sbin"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It'd be a lot faster.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Same thing with "find", issue the -xdev option to stay in just the /
>>>>>>>>filesystem
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"find / -xdev -size +100K"   ...etc..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: nflug-bounces at nflug.org [mailto:nflug-bounces at nflug.org] On
>>>>>>>>Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>eric
>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:21 PM
>>>>>>>>To: nflug at nflug.org
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nflug] uhoh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the commands are working so incredibly slow I decieded to delete some
>>>>>>>>"safe stuff" I have a webmin directory in /root that has been
>>>>>>>>their all
>>>>>>>>along so I started to get rid of some files and the commands "find"
>>>>>>>>"du"
>>>>>>>>are still moving like snails, I tried du -s * from the / dir ...it
>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>been running for a half hour so I zapped it with ctrl z and tried to
>>>>>>>>delete some more stuff out the webmin dir.  So, I have a new
>>>>>>>>question:
>>>>>>>>could something on the system be creating a file or files
>>>>>>>>constantly or
>>>>>>>>can the 251M that was alotted over spill on the / dir and I have to
>>>>>>>>delete down to 251M like memory is waiting to write to the hard
>>>>>>>>drive?
>>>>>>>>I slap my hands everytime I think I want to just restart the server
>>>>>>>>typical windows brainwashing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>Eric
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Darin Perusich wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>or it could be /root.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>David J. Andruczyk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>cd / ; du -s *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Odds are it's /lib/modules filled up if you have several kernels
>>>>>>>>>>installed..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>--- eric <eric at bootz.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>File system            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
>>>>>>>>>>>/dev/hdc3             251M  251M     0 100% /
>>>>>>>>>>>tmpfs                 758M  4.0K  758M   1% /dev/shm
>>>>>>>>>>>/dev/hdc8             101G   12G   85G  12% /home
>>>>>>>>>>>/dev/hdc7             358M  8.1M  331M   3% /tmp
>>>>>>>>>>>/dev/hdc4             4.6G  516M  3.9G  12% /usr
>>>>>>>>>>>/dev/hdc5             2.8G  1.6G  1.2G  58% /var
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>My / directory is stuffed, I already have /var/logs linked into a
>>>>>>>>>>>/home dir
>>>>>>>>>>>how do I take out the trash sort of speak, I guess I should really
>>>>>>>>>>>know what the culprit file or files that caused the fill up as
>>>>>>>>>>>well
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>eric
>>>>>>>>>>>
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