CITRIX licensing Was RE: Poll of sorts-

[Jason Lasker]

This page may clear up (or not) the Windows 2003 Server CAL and Terminal
Server CAL requirements.  For 2003 server you need one CAL and one TS CAL
for each client connection.  But if your client is XP pro you can get a
TS-CAL for free.

 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/community/centers/terminal/termin
al_faq.mspx#XSLTfaqSection121123121120120


So if I understand this correctly if you have a Linux or any other non XP
pro client you need to have one regular CAL one TS-CAL per connection.  (The
XP Pro TS-CAL being "free")

Then add your citrix licensing on top of that.....

My head hurts... I'm going back to sleep now....


Jason Lasker
Senior Programmer Analyst/Systems Administrator 
University at Buffalo Science and Engineering Node Services
113 Bell Hall
Buffalo, NY 14260-2050
Voice 716-645-3797 x2172
Fax    716-645-3704
email mailto:lasker at eng.buffalo.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nflug at nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug at nflug.org] On Behalf Of
Charles H. Root, III
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:41 AM
To: nflug at nflug.org
Subject: RE: CITRIX licensing Was RE: Poll of sorts-

Hello Gang:

My VAR is Joe Manzella from PCI. He knows the complicated ins & outs of the
Citrix licensing world quite well. Give him a shout at 856-7181. I'm sure he
can assist you with your Citrix questions and needs.

My understanding is this:

The server side licensing is tricky.

The client software residing on the workstation or thin client is free. In
fact, you can go to http://www.citrix.com/lang/English/downloads.asp and
freely download clients for pretty much any modern OS.

I don't believe for a minute that you are required to purchase a Win2K
license for MacOS, Linux, Win98 and NT4 clients that connect into a Citrix
server. These vendors may not get it or are just trying to get you to spend
money on something you don't need.

Get another opinion... Call Joe.

Good luck!

chaz


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nflug at nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug at nflug.org]On Behalf Of Tom
McKim
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:33 PM
To: nflug at nflug.org
Subject: CITRIX licensing Was RE: Poll of sorts-


--- "Charles H. Root, III"
<chazroot at accountsolutionsgroup.com> wrote:
> Hey Gang,
>
> Most of our employees run Citrix sessions. We are now rolling out 
> Linux based PC's or thin clients that have nothing but X Windows and 
> the Citrix client on them. I can utilize old Pentium II's, buy or use 
> old computers, and don't have to pay a Microsoft Windows License fee. 
> I've saved the company $15K - $20K on XP licenses and about $75K on 
> PCS. Almost $100K in one year. Our CFO loves me!

Do you have any information on the Licensing?  I have been trying to get
answers on this.  I asked the two vendors that we're selling it to me and I
spoke to a licenseing rep at Microsoft. It's been over a year so but I
recall them saying that if you are going to be using Terminal Services with
or with out CITRIX, you need a terminal service license per client.  That is
a no-brainer so I purchased 40 Termainal Service Licenses to go along with
the 40 Citrix Liceneses.

I was also told if you are going to be connecting from a Non-Windows 2000
(NT4, Win 98, Linux) then you need to pay for a Windows 2000 License per
box.
On top of that you would need a license for each client for office.




Tom McKim, MCSE
Network Administrator
Niagara Chocolates
3500 Genesee Street
Buffalo, New York 14225
tmckim at niagarachocolates.com
mckimt at yahoo.com



__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information.
It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the
intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying,
distributing or using any of this information. If you receive this
communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy
the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This
communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers
subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act.  You may not
directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose
other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the
information.