Fun thread.

Joshua Ronne Altemoos joshua at gnu-linux.net
Wed Jan 5 18:45:26 EST 2005


space and memory issues.

In Windows they install drivers and stuff for everywhich thing and you
have close to NO say in it. Linux lets you compile what you want and what
you need into the kernal which cuts down on the mmeory usage.


> wow, good thread.
>   I could sum it up in one word......"Control". I am lucky enough to be
> in a position to always come across comparing Linux to windows. I also
> see many, many , many people disgusted with there windows boxes getting
> bugged up and eventually useless.
>   So, your question is, what would keep a person in Linux like apps keep
> a person in windows? I think it goes way beyond apps. Control and virus
> protection are paramount in my view to keep anyone in Linux. If a
> person, for familiarity or whatever reason, wishes to stay with windows,
> then they should. The apps will come in time and as far as I can see,
> are no longer a reason not to go with Linux. The way we setup people
> with Fedora Core 3 and VMware running windows as a guest OS, windows
> itself has been reduced to an app, which, IMHO is where it belongs.
>
> Eric Benoit wrote:
>
>> I could have saved our school district 10,000.00 if only they had let
>> me ...and upgrading in the future could have saved them ...well who
>> knows.  There is a great deal of educational software being made for
>> linux ...and it will grow.  The troubles I have with windows is 90% of
>> my time that i could have spent making permenant feasible solutions to
>> there IT needs.  I just ghost windows machines these days ...it seems
>> to cut down on the time problem ...on the other hand people see me
>> busy ...if linux were the choice then they might speculate that I'm a
>> slacker ..thanks for keeping me busy Billy.
>>
>> Jesse Jarzynka wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 15:07, Dennis Ruzeski wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> It's not what Linux can do, it's what Windows can't do-- Protect
>>>> itself.
>>>> To show why I like Linux better, I mention things like msblaster,
>>>> nimda, mydoom, sasser, etc...
>>>> Then I show them my CERT mail archives with about a 15:1 Windows to
>>>> Linux alert ratio and if I'm at my home, I demonstrate how easliy a
>>>> windows machine can be compromised.
>>>> Lots of people are impressed with eye candy, so although I use
>>>> windowmaker, I also show them a prettied up gnome, kde, and
>>>> enlightenment environment.
>>>> Then I give them a knoppix cd and say try it first with no commitment.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> As far as apps go, I like Openoffice (free vs. ~$300) GIMP, Blender,
>>>> Gaim, and k3b.
>>>>
>>>> --Dennis
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     That's exactly what I say. But more of what i meant was you show
>>> some
>>> people OpenOffice, they say "I'll just download Microsoft Office",
>>> Gimp,
>>> "I'll download Photoshop", get the idea? Even if they know Linux is
>>> more
>>> secure, they'll keep Windows for the comfort factor. A lot of people,
>>> while stupid, think that they shouldn't have to switch if they can
>>> still
>>> download everything they want for free.     I have a kid in my class
>>> who brings his laptop in, and every morning
>>> does his little virus scan, immediately followed by his ad-aware scan.
>>> Spends about 20 minutes just cleaning it up. That just goes to show
>>> people will deal with it, and maybe even feel better about it!
>>>     Blender is a good one. While I haven't played with it. I've heard
>>> and
>>> seen some awesome things from it. Isn't it ported to Windows though? I
>>> also think mythTV is a cool one that's kinda standalone on Linux. Some
>>> other cool things I usually mention are more dependable ripping. I
>>> remember windows crashing and dying all the time while Grip, or DVDrip
>>> just work fantastically. And also, ogg doesnt force you to download a
>>> license to listen to them! Anyone ran into this little gem on Windows
>>> yet? I also like all the tools that come with terminal. Ssh, scp, vi
>>> (while on a server), locate, grep etc.
>>>     I just like blowing people's minds when I show them my desktop, and
>>> wanted to know if anyone could think of some other clever things Linux
>>> can do that Windows can't, besides the obvious security issues. I think
>>> for a lot of the "intermediate" users, until they see some eye candy,
>>> or
>>> unavailable apps, they'll settle. Obviously the screensavers are a good
>>> start!
>>>
>>>
>


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Joshua Ronne Altemoos
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