[nflug] RE: Burning a CD-R

Josh Johnson joshj at linuxmail.org
Thu Dec 22 16:52:32 EST 2005 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Maggio" <ronmaggio2005 at yahoo.com>
To: nflug at nflug.org
Subject: Re: [nflug] RE: Burning a CD-R
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:03:54 -0800 (PST)

> 
> Hi, all
>    Thanks for all the suggestion, but this beats the whole purpose 
> of getting away from Windows. If I or anyone else has to jump 
> through hoops of fire, then Linux has a long way to go! In order 
> for Linux to meet or beat Windows for the desktop it must be able 
> to work right out of the box with no number of great ordeals along 
> the way.
>    I thought, I was able to get use my I/O Magic a standard 
> cd-burner. But from my experience, I've found nothing but! I'm not 
> going to purchase special hardware that Linux will work with, so if 
> you want a good deal on books and software about Linux and Unix 
> email me.
> 
>    Thanks, Ron M

Linux is far from a "User Friendly" desktop (Despite marketing attempts). I'd be surprised if your cd burner didn't actually work with Linux. But its a system of trade-offs. Example: My D3D suddenly stopped working in Windows (years ago) when I switched cards. Some searching revealed that it was a known flaw and the only thing to do was to reinstall windows (if you wanted any d3d in games). At the same time, in Linux, it was simpler. It took some work, but it was doable. Not-to-mention no longer having to reinstall my OS every 6 months. Also, now that I think of it, my mom's cd burner doesn't work either. I've tried just about everything but I think I will end up reinstalling windows. If you just install the latest Fedora it'll probably be fine. Most all linux distros will work fine out of the box. Problems can occur when you upgrade things (as with windows). But if you aren't willing to put a bit of effort in, it won't work out. Its still a programmers desktop. Eventually we'll muster enough support to get drivers to come with our brand-spanking-new hardware.

I guess my point is: If something goes critically wrong (eg. cdrecord doesn't play well with 2.6) you *can* actually fix it instead of scrapping the whole install thanks to free software.

my $0.02

> 
> Josh Johnson <joshj at linuxmail.org> wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JJ Neff"
> To: nflug at nflug.org
> Subject: Re: [nflug] RE: Burning a CD-R
> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 17:23:43 -0800 (PST)
> 
> >
> > No software - no matter how pretty or goooey will do anything if your
> > underlying kernel and cdrecord DO not like the burner or work correctly
> >
> > YOU MUST try to burn first with the cmd line cdrecord (or cdrdao) as that is
> > all that is being called when you use KDE, XCDROAST etc etc. If 
> > you can't make
> > it work the GUI on top won't be able to either...
> >
> > Now when you've read all the cdrecord MAN page, and the ever 
> > continuing saga of
> > cdrecord VS 2.6 kernel and atapi interface etc etc etc you'll realize why I
> > stopped burning cds and burn DVDs exclusively - dvd+rwtools works just fine.
> > Believe you me, I really want to burn CDs but cdrecord does not work with my
> > hardware under my kernel - not much I can do unless I'm willing to 1) reboot
> > into 2.4 kernel and use scsi emulation (and Maybe work) 2) become an expert C
> > programmer and fork cdrecord and start over with a non scsi specific
> > interface...
> 
> Someone already did this.
> 
> Doing this from the command line is daunting if you haven't done it before.
> @Ron Maggio: Hereis an example you can try which I think should 
> work well. I recently got my 
> migration-from-2.4-to-2.6-cdrecord-problems straightened out.
> 
> Make sure that there is no scsi-emulation going on on your command 
> line. If "cat /proc/cmdline" has a line that looks like 
> "ide-scsi=/dev/hdc" then you need to take that out of your 
> bootloader options and reboot.
> 
> Make a directory and put some stuff in it that will fit onto a cd. 
> I'll call my directory "asdf". from outside the directory do this:
> mkisofs -R -o asdf.raw asdf
> 
> Then find your device:
> cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus
> 
> The output on my computer looks like this:
> scsibus1:
> 1,0,0 100) 'SONY ' 'CD-RW CRX175E2 ' 'S002' Removable CD-ROM
> 1,1,0 101) 'TOSHIBA ' 'DVD-ROM SD-M1212' '1R14' Removable CD-ROM
> 1,2,0 102) *
> 1,3,0 103) *
> 1,4,0 104) *
> 1,5,0 105) *
> 1,6,0 106) *
> 1,7,0 107) *
> 
> I want to use the SONY so my target drive is 1,0,0 . Now burn your 
> cd (blank cd in the drive):
> cdrecord -v speed=8 dev=ATA:1,0,0 -isosize asdf.raw
> 
> Another suggestion someone had on this list a little while ago 
> (which I never tried but seems like it should work) was this:
> cdrecord -v speed=8 dev=/dev/hdc -multi asdf.raw
> 
> It should be noted that on some systems you need to be root to do 
> this. Depends on your setup. Good luck!
> 
> -Josh
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > Hmm Let me start reading some more :-)
> >
> > JJN
> >
> > --- Richard Hubbard wrote:
> >
> > > i've never had any problems with xcdroast
> > >
> > > another idea is to be a tough guy and do it through the command line tools.
> > >
> > > (_The Linux cookbook_ by carla schroder gives a no nonsense 
> > step > by step for how to use these tools, or you can try the man 
> > pages.)
> > >
> > > Me, I'm a wimp that uses xcdroast. The nice thing is that it is 
> > > strictly x, and doesn't depend on gnome or kde.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ron Maggio wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi, all
> > > > Well...I tried both toast in KDE and k3d in Gnome, and both > 
> > suck! > Neither will burn! It goes through all the motions after 
> > > I gave it > what to burn, and it just sits there! Nothing! I 
> > even > left it alone > and did something else for 15 minutes and 
> > came > back to see it had done > nothing. Stalled in limbo land, 
> > it was > suggested that Nero had a > product for Linux. To me 
> > that beats > the whole purpose, to get away > from commercial 
> > software. I > really don't want to go back to Windows, > but it 
> > seems I will if > I can get full usage of this system. What the > 
> > hell good is it > if you can't do the same as you can do in 
> > Windows. Oh > by the > way, I did RTFM. I read all that there 
> > could be to read about > > how to use this software, and I still 
> > can't get it to work. The > > hardware is somewhat new, and 
> > worked very well under Windows. Any > help > would be greatly 
> > appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Ron M.
> > > >
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