[inbox] RE: lilo/grub

[Greg Neumann]

Pete,
Thanks for the advice. I was sorta fishin' for some answers ;-)
Probably, I was just too annoyed w/ having to learn yet another way of 
addressing a HD partition. As I said, I've been using lilo for so long, 
it's almost reflexive! ;-)
I'll try grub w/ the next "trash it because I feel like trying a 
different partition scheme/HD/distro/just bored" day.
As I said, my info is about 2 years old, so ... one thing that really 
interests me is the mixed IDE/SCSI setup. I agree that lilo on a mixed 
IDE/SCSI system is very painful. One reason I'm running a pure SCSI 
system right now. Hmmm.... sounds like a project for this week! Any 
more, one of the "run it from a CD" distros is as good as it gets for 
fixing an ailing system. (anybody else remember motherboards that 
wouldn't boot from a CD?)
-Greg

Cyber Source wrote:

> You should look at what the problem is exactly, if you want to that is.  
> My office system is a mixture of IDE and SCSI, no problems. My servers 
> are all SCSI, no problems. Never had one really. One really cool feature 
> I like about GRUB is the devices.map file. In there you tell it what is 
> the first drive and so on like "(hd0)  /dev/sda" or "(hd0) /dev/hda" , 
> the first one  would make the SCSI sda in your system the first drive 
> and the second one would make your IDE hda your first drive, etc. and so 
> on. If your mixing drives like SCSI and IDE and didn't necessarily 
> install as such so that the system did the config for you, it was a real 
> pain with LILO, I found that is.
> Rerunning the lilo command is no biggie, unless you can mount the 
> system, then it's a HUGE biggie. With GRUB, any way I can boot the 
> machine to run vi, I can fix it.
> Some say tomato, some say tomata, lol
> 
> Greg Neumann wrote:
> 
>> Umm .... I've had nothing but trouble with grub and SCSI partitions. 
>> Maybe I'm too old and inflexible, but the configuration was very picky 
>> and arcane to my mind. I tried it w/ Mandrake and Gentoo and 
>> Slackware, and scrapped it as far too unfriendly and difficult to set 
>> up. Somehow, saving and exiting vim and typing "lilo -v" doesn't seem 
>> very hard at all. I have had XP pro booting as an option ... about 2 
>> years ago ... from lilo, and I didn't have any troubles. I usually 
>> have 3 kernels, plus at least one Windows partition going at any given 
>> moment. I suspect it's alot like which word processor you like. The 
>> one you learned first and most thoroughly is always the best ... 
>> simply because!
>> BIG CAVEAT!! I've ONLY used grub on pure SCSI systems, never IDE. As 
>> grub seems more "slanted" to IDE, it may be completely different for 
>> that.
>> Just an old Slackware (since '94!) curmuddgeon's gripe. No flame war 
>> intended! ;-) If lilo failed me and grub worked, I'd change in a 
>> heartbeat!
>>
>> -Greg
>>
>> TheCactusKid Cactus wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, y'all
>>> So tell me whats the difference between Lilo and Grub?
>>> In other words why is Grub better?
>>>  
>>> Thanks, tHecActUsKid:)
>>>
>>> "Riga, Anthony" <Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com> wrote:
>>> Pete
>>> I did it and it workes. Thanks!
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-nflug at nflug.org on behalf of Cyber Source
>>> Sent: Sat 3/20/2004 1:31 PM
>>> To: nflug at nflug.org
>>> Subject: Re: lilo/grub
>>>
>>> GRUB Rocks!
>>> As root, type "grub-install /dev/hda" assuming you have and IDE hard 
>>> drive and want to have the boot loader on the MBR of the first drive, 
>>> that should do it. Then you can have a look at /boot/grub/grub.conf 
>>> to see what's in there. Once installed, if you change something, it's 
>>> just a matter of editing the conf file, no reinstall after, you can 
>>> then just comment out what you don't want etc.
>>> hint, to select a different boot level or whatever at boot time, hit 
>>> "e", then append the line of the boot with say, "single", then hit 
>>> "b" to boot it.
>>>
>>> Riga, Anthony wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am running Redhat 9.0. using lilo. How do I uninstall lilo and 
>>>> install grub in order to boot? Can this be done. I want to try grub 
>>>> for a change..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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