Verizon Fios (Fiber-to-the-Premises) Internet (Cheap??)
Timothy J. Finucane
speljamr at speljamr.com
Wed Jul 21 11:21:42 EDT 2004
DSL is available to me, and I have tried it from several companies,
including Verizon. Unfortunately it does not even come close to the
3mbps speed I get from Adelphia.
Tim
On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 18:13, Advent Systems wrote:
> Timothy J. Finucane wrote:
>
> >Good points, but I think the average user's needs are growing at a very
> >fast pace. There is obviously a hug market for delivery of music, and I
> >don't just mean kazza theft. I mean things like iTunes, which has
> >exploded right out of the gate. Unless there are some tremendous
> >developments in compression technology, these downloads are likely to
> >remain fairly large. And music is something that is of interest to the
> >average user. And the streaming video from the parts of the internet we
> >need not mention already pushes the limits of the current bandwidth.
> >
> >Also, I still can't quite classify Verizon's new offering as "Overkill"
> >because the $35 package (the one most people will buy) is only 2-5 mbps.
> >I currently get 3mbps on my Adelphia cable modem. That sounds pretty
> >close to the same service. And the average user of broadband services is
> >on cable, not DSL. Though I'm sure that is only because of the 3 mile
> >technical limit with DSL.
> >
> >In addition, they are starting the roll out in Texas, and expecting more
> >expansion after that. they are predicting 1 million homes tied to fiber
> >by the end of the year. That's a small number compared to the number of
> >homes in the US. By the time they get here, things could have clearly
> >changed that will require larger bandwidth.
> >
> >Tim
> >
> >On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 12:48, Ronald Maggio wrote:
> >
> >
> >>In response to the following, you are correct about
> >>progress/innovation, but my comment was about the average end user,
> >>student and home/small business. Do we really need it? It is fine for
> >>those that truly have a need of such resources. Now think a minute,
> >>regardless of your computing skills or needs do you really think that
> >>the average end user which is the gross marketed target really needs
> >>all this and more.
> >>
> >>Your speaking from where you see it, as your needs as a computer
> >>professional might surpass the current available resources available
> >>to you. The industry will produce progress/innovation to be marketed,
> >>yet does anyone really think it is for the consumers, or is it
> >>for corporate industry. People will always want the latest and the
> >>greatest as long as they have money to burn, and corporations are
> >>ready willing and able to exploit their egos. We all know that the
> >>vast computers sold are targeted for end users to email, web browse,
> >>gaming, and let us not forget the parts on the web that make the most
> >>money! I need not mention.
> >>
> >>So in conclusion, my comment "fast enough & Overkill" are valid points
> >>as long as the technology used as of now by end users can keep up
> >>with the Internet, but as trends make todays technology out of date
> >>the market will always have a guaranty of more revenue through the
> >>pocketbooks of the consumers.
> >>
> >>Ron Maggio
> >>
> >> "Fast Enough" will always be relative to current needs. As
> >> more, and
> >> higher quality, content feeds come online more bandwidth will
> >> be needed.
> >> I can still remember people telling me that 56k was all you
> >> would ever
> >> need. Then came streaming video, and to get a good quality
> >> feed you
> >> really needed to get broadband. "Fast Enough" assumes that
> >> there will
> >> not be any progress/innovation in multimedia formats or
> >> content
> >> distribution.
> >>
> >> So, for the long term outlook it is hardly overkill. Is it
> >> overkill to
> >> have a 200GB hard drive? Maybe it is today, but in 2-3 more
> >> years it
> >> won't. We, as a society, are putting more data online
> >> everyday, and with
> >> that comes more need for bandwidth and storage.
> >>
> >> Also, Verizon is talking about using the same feed to create
> >> its own
> >> cable network. This just might break the cable monopolies that
> >> currently
> >> exist in! each city. After all, your only choices right now
> >> are satellite
> >> or cable if you want more content than is on public airwaves.
> >> This would
> >> also drive the need for bandwidth.
> >>
> >> The downside to this is that they are talking about making
> >> access to the
> >> fiber lines closed, unlike the current phone lines. They argue
> >> that this
> >> is required because the current cable companies have closed
> >> access.
> >> Personally, I would prefer it if BOTH the phone company and
> >> cable
> >> company were required to have open access. This would be
> >> better for the
> >> consumer in terms of competition and innovation. If the
> >> cable/phone
> >> companies have closed access they can then regulate what can
> >> and what
> >> cannot be put on the network, thus killing the end-toend
> >> concept that
> >> the internet was created on. Innovation would then be
> >> regulated by those
> >> companies as well. Anyone remember the time when AT&T
> >> regulated what
> >> could and what could not be attached to their phone lines?
> >>
> >> Some o! ther alternatives to access may become available as
> >> well, like
> >> this one:
> >> http://www.cbc.ca/story/science/national/2004/07/16/anik040716.html.
> >> Granted, it's a bit more expensive, but that may change as
> >> more
> >> companies put up similar satellites.
> >>
> >> The more competition and innovation, the better.
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >> On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 01:54, Ronald Maggio wrote:
> >> > Over kill, unless your running a business big time and
> >> really need the
> >> > bandwidth and the speed it gives you, or are into
> >> interactive gaming
> >> > over the Internet in a big way!
> >> >
> >> > I have ADSL through Verizon at $34.95 a month, and its fast
> >> enough for
> >> > the average user. ie: Student, Home to mid size Business,
> >> and so on.
> >> >
> >> > Ron
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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> Tim,
> Just to let you know, I have been waiting for broadband access in my
> area for years (I'm 5 miles from my central office) but a few months ago
> they installed new equipment where I was able to have dsl installed in
> my home. I'm in lancaster and am not sure if It' a town-to-town thing
> but it may be worth calling verizon up to see if it's now available in
> your area.
>
> Bob Randal
adventsystems at verizon.net
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