linux newbie cdwriting

Advent Systems adventsystems at verizon.net
Mon Dec 6 17:16:06 EST 2004


Dave,
I know this is off the subject but do distros like gentoo, debian, and a 
lot of the others I've heard of have desktop managers like gnome,kde,etc 
or are they command line only? I'm new.

Bob Randal

Dave Andruczyk wrote:

>This is why I like gentoo.  To update, you run "emerge sync" and then "emerge
>world -u"  it all runs by itself.  if you start it under "screen" you can
>disconnect that session and leave it go and it'll compile the updates for you
>in the background.  I installed gentoo about 2 years ago and haven't had to
>reinstall once. (though I had to boot off a rescue CD when I did a few stupid
>things) My box is jsut as current now as if I had installed it yesterday.  This
>I see is one of gentoo's strengths. (it's weakness or strength if you look at
>it differently is that it compiles everything from source when updating so it
>can be time consuming,  but I just let it run in the background and don't
>really notice it)
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>--- Advent Systems <adventsystems at verizon.net> wrote:
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>>Daniel,
>>The Up-Dater that comes with FC2 is horrible. There are systems you can 
>>download to get the updates that I found to work very well, one is 
>>apt-get, the other is Yum. The only other updaters I used before were 
>>SuSE's YOU, it works well but only gave me the updates that SuSE wanted 
>>me to have. The other was mandrake's and after freshly installing a 1 
>>year old distro (9.1) it told me "system was up to date and no updates 
>>were available". So you see why I like updating FC2 much better. You 
>>have to do a little extra work but it's much better and I believe that 
>>what linux is all about. On the other end of the scale you have 
>>mswindows update where you click one button and walk away, and you can 
>>only hope what it's actually doing is good.
>>As far as getting the modem to work I can say this. I tried 3 different 
>>distros and nothing worked. I paid Linuxant $14 10 min. latter I could 
>>fire up my win-modem with any of the distros. They have gotten a bad rep 
>>because the drivers should be free but , and I agree, but on the other 
>>hand someone did do some work to make the drivers available (and they 
>>work well) so for $14 bucks, I figured that was money well spent to fix 
>>a problem that was VERY vexing to me. I would still like to get the 
>>modem working on my own (w/0 the linuxant drivers) but at that time my 
>>dialup connection was my only access to the internet (i had to download 
>>the drivers on my win2k side).
>>Just somthing to think about.
>>
>>Good Luck,
>>Bob Randal
>>
>>
>>Daniel Villarreal wrote:
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>>>On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 17:22:18 -0500 Bob typed...
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>>>>   I'm new at this but maybe I can help:
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>>>>DV-For CD writing I use a combination of X-CD-Roast or command-line.
>>>>examples...
>>>>For DVD-Writing I would use X-CD-Roast. I don't have a DVD-equipped
>>>>system anymore. I have a lap top and that's it.
>>>>
>>>>BR-I have a laptop also and it take a lot more work to setup then most
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>>desktops but it can be done.  I'm using FC2/Gnome and thanks to the good
>>people on this list now K3b for my CD writing.   Since you seem to like
>>Redhat you might want to try the FC2 route.  Since you don't have a DVD drive
>>there no point in me going into that.  
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>>>I liked FC2, once it got Firewire capability, but when I tried to update
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>>it, it barfed... An OS is no good to me if I can't update it. I'm interested
>>in FC3, but since this is my only system, I need to have something I know I
>>can work with. I figured I'd go with free Red Hat
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>>>Enterprise Linux. Very vanilla, but I like the XWindows set up, it gives
>>>me 1024x768 on my Vaio laptop. Now if I could just get the built-in
>>>modem to work in Linux... I'm not interested in paying for commercial
>>>Linuxant modem drivers.
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>>>>DV-BTW, I do depend heavily on external Firewire/USB2 drives for 
>>>>storage. I never trust XP Home to not totally wipe out my laptop's hard >
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>>drive ;-)
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>>>>BR-Don't depend too heavily on the external USB2 drives as you only 
>>>>source of backup.  I re-installed (3) different distros, thinking 
>>>>something in that particular distro did not like my USB drive and in >the
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>>end it was the USB drive that malfunctioned.  As to XP Home, GET >RID OF IT!
>>if you must dual boot, as I do, I highly recommend win2k.
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>>>I have some stuff written to DVD, and a lot is written to CD-ROM.
>>>I never had any problems with Win2k, but a license for XP Home came with my
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>>laptop. I don't run anything that I don't have backed up on XP :-)
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>>>>DV-I'd like to try and get my Palm Zire Z71 to work with Linux, I've never
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>>been able to set up a USB Palm device in Linux. I've used a serial cradle in
>>the past with a Handspring device in Linux.
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>>>>BR-I'm still working on getting my palm to sync correctly, when I figure it
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>>out I'll drop you a line, and hope you do the same.
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>>>Palm is nice, but I wish I could run the emulators... If I get around to
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>>getting it set up in Linux, I'll write to the list.
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>>>>I hope I helped,
>>>>Bob Randal
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>>>been nice, Bob
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>>>later,
>>>Daniel
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