partitions
Cyber Source
peter at thecybersource.com
Tue Sep 16 22:38:46 EDT 2003
You are probably just trying to mount the wrong partition. type
"/sbin/fdisk /dev/hda" as root and the type p to see the partitions,
then type q to exit.
When you have the correct partitions that you want to mount, like your
windows partition, you can then just type mount "/dev/hda? /mnt/mount" ,
making sure you actually have an /mnt/mount location. If you want to add
it to your /etc/fstab, a line like "/dev/hda? /mnt/mount vfat
umask=0,users 0 0" would work. The umask=0 will mount it with no
permissions. And that is if it is a fat partition. The 0's mean it won't
be used in a dump scenario and won't be checked on boot. Remember that
you still need the mount location and that will mount it on boot and if
you dont want to reboot after you make the change to the fstab file, you
can then just type " mount /mnt/mount". Let me know how this works for
you.
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 14:54, Mark Robson wrote:
> Well, it will be there, then. Even if I get this
> solved meantime (LOL). I guess you'll have monitors
> to use, so I'll need to bring the kbd/mouse and box?
>
> Meantime, I seem to have lied when I said I could see
> both partitions on the 80gb drive. When I go:
>
> mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/win
>
> I can get a view of the c: drive where my o/s is
> installed, and the source for the files I want to
> rescue. I 'thought' I could just modify that to :
>
> mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /mnt/winD
>
> to make the same view true for my D: partition on that
> same drive. I have already created /mnt/winD.
> Instead, I get this complaint:
>
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on
> /dev/hda2,
> or too many mounted file systems
> (aren't you trying to mount an extended
> partition,
> instead of some logical partition inside?)
>
> I don't remember making hda2 NTFS, but is that likely
> the problem? How would I determine that?
>
> Is a 'bad superblock' as bad as it sounds? Can I
> determine that (considering my newbie-ness)?
>
> I am trying to mount an extended partition, not a
> logical partition insde; maybe I just need a different
> option?
>
> I need to learn how to edit fstab to automate this
> anyways, don't I. Another of the skills I haven't yet
> picked up. I wish I had the time to take classes to
> get this down. I'm the proverbial one who knows just
> enough to get into trouble.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> --- Cyber Source <peter at thecybersource.com> wrote:
> > Anytime. You should try to make next weekends
> > meeting (Sunday 1:00),
> > maybe you could even bring the box and we could have
> > at it?
> > On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 17:21, Mark Robson wrote:
> >
> > > Ahh... the cure for all ills... I remember saying
> > > exactly that. Couldn't understand the open source
> > > world's disdain for MS. M$? Eyes wide shut,
> > indeed.
> > >
> > > Will try your idea with a small twist - I can see
> > both
> > > part'ns on the 80gb drive (yes, FAT) and might
> > just
> > > move the C: into the D: as a directory and then
> > > proceed as you describe. Just enough pain to make
> > me
> > > remember the lesson - those who do not learn to
> > backup
> > > are doomed to reinstall everything.
> > >
> > > Will be a day or two before I am able to get at
> > this.
> > > Looking forward to it.
> > >
> > > BTW, I'm determined to learn enough to show my
> > > teenagers what they can do with Linux - Yahoo/GAIM
> > > will help there, too.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Cyber Source <peter at thecybersource.com> wrote:
> > > > I do this all the time because alot of my
> > clients
> > > > decide that xp is a
> > > > cure-all for there ills and just install it,
> > only to
> > > > find out that there
> > > > is no support for ISA hardware, etc and one guy
> > > > actually lost all
> > > > functionality of his previous m$ office stuff
> > > > because he had not
> > > > activated it yet! This pissed him off so much,
> > he
> > > > wanted me to save all
> > > > his data and put him back on win98. I usually
> > back
> > > > up everything and
> > > > since you tell me that you can mount this xp
> > side
> > > > from Linux, I am going
> > > > to assume that xp is on a fat partition (versus
> > > > ntfs), so this should be
> > > > easy. If you have room somewhere for this, make
> > a
> > > > zip or tar the xp
> > > > side. Keep in mind that windows (at least 98)
> > cannot
> > > > see a file size
> > > > larger than 4gb. Once backed up, you can redo
> > your
> > > > windows side to
> > > > whatever and restore the data. Any data you had
> > > > saved can be reused, if
> > > > it is not environment dependent (needs to be in
> > > > registry, etc) All you
> > > > doc's, mp3's, whatever should be fine.
> > > > In my dual boot scenario's, I backup the whole
> > > > windows side to one file,
> > > > keep in on the Linux side (don't have to worry
> > about
> > > > file size) and then
> > > > use Gnome's file roller to extract the stuff, or
> > > > show the clients how to
> > > > extract files and then move them to the new
> > windows
> > > > side. Then when they
> > > > are sure they have everything, they can delete
> > the
> > > > saved file.
> > > > There would be alot of bumps in the road for a
> > > > newbie to do this, feel
> > > > free to keep asking questions.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 09:24, Mark Robson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have been having trouble with WinXP
> > > > > (Ex-productivity?), and wish I'd learned to
> > > > segregate
> > > > > all those user-environment related files out
> > > > before
> > > > > the @#$($#@
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> driver-corruption/page-fault/IRQ_not_less_than/circus
> > > > > started last month. Now I can't get past the
> > > > > rebooting during load, cannot reinstall XP,
> > cannot
> > > > get
> > > > > into safe mode. I've made a real mess of it,
> > and
> > > > want
> > > > > to end the madness. Irony: I got into the
> > mess
> > > > > because I was adding CDRW so I could BACKUP MY
> > > > FILES!
> > > > > DOH!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have an idea to use Linux as my solution,
> > and
> > > > please
> > > > > advise how this might go; I have a dual-boot
> > > > > setup, with RH8 linux installed onto a second
> > hard
> > > > > drive. I'm able to boot into RH8 and mount
> > the xp
> > > > > partition. (RH8 server, with Samba, although
> > I'm
> > > > > totally an enduser, not admin.) Can I sort
> > out
> > > > the
> > > > > important files (*.doc/xls/htm mostly) and put
> > > > them
> > > > > aside in the penguin partition, then format
> > the xp
> > > > > partition and install 98? I can see 'how' to
> > do
> > > > this,
> > > > > but here's the point:
> > > > >
> > > > > Does transferring these files from xp to linux
> > and
> > > > > back to 98 cause any problems with the
> > integrity
> > > > of
> > > > > the files themselves? As enduser, not admin,
> > I'll
> > > > use
> > > > > a more gui (Gnome)than command line approach.
> > > > Would
> > > > > not open or operate on the files beyond moving
> > > > them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Original idea, which I can't make happen on
> > the
> > > > > Win/Loser setup any more, was to move the XP
> > > > partition
> > > > > up and create a new partition to install 98
> > onto.
> > > > Was
> > > > > going to do that after I got the drives backed
> > up,
> > > > > never got that far. I use PartitionMagic, and
> > it
> > > > > would do this in win non-destructively. Is
> > there
> > > > any
> > > > > comparable Linux partition program that is
> > also
> > > > > non-destructive?
> > > > >
> > > > > Other details:
> > > > > About 2gb of user-environment related files to
> > > > move.
> > > > > Three hard drives altogether:
> > > > > 80gb WD, partitioned into two 40gb windows.
> > > > > 8gb Fujitsu, windows single partition
> > > > > 10gb Maxtor, Linux, RH8 server default
> > partition
> > > > > scheme
> > > > > Celeron p3 400, 384mb, 16mb agp video.
> > > > > Broadband connection
> > > > > The machine is part of a home peer2peer
> > network,
> > > > but
> > > > > that is just to share the broadband and
> > printers.
> > > > The
> > > > > other machines are 98's.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark
> > > > >
> > > > > peter <pvant67 at wnyip.net> wrote:
> > > > > Sorry for the long absence, it's been
> > > > strange/terrible
> > > > > at best here.
> > > > >
> > > > > My comment about partitions: Anything I think
> > will
> > > > > matter to me in the
> > > > > long run gets a separate partition, esp. /home
> > and
> > > > > /usr/local.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's the only reason I've been able to keep
> > > > > essentially the same user
> > > > > environment for so many years (1999-2000) to
> > > > present.
> > > > > Back then, I did
> > > > > things on a Compaq 486. Now, it is 2 or 3
> > hardware
> > > > > systems later, but
> > > > > /home hasn't changed much. The contents are
> > > > similar
> > > > > but the capabilities
> > > > > are greater.
> > > > >
> > > > > The way I do things, the rest of the system is
> > > > > disposable. You already
> > > > > know there's going to be upgrades, betas, etc.
> > > > /home
> > > > > isn't disposable -
> > > > > its the stuff you spent the last few years
> > > > creating.
> > > > > Hence, I never use
> > > > > the default partition schemes (I use RH9), and
> > I
> > > > > default to a custom
> > > > > install in order to preserve this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hence, I would definitely give /home its own
> > > > > partition; you can safely
> > > > > wipe and re-install the system without
> > touching
> > > > it, if
> > > > > you opt to
> > > > > partition it manually.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps someone - Pete
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Cyber Source <peter at thecybersource.com>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > =====
> > >
> > > Mark Robson
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > --
> > Cyber Source <peter at thecybersource.com>
> >
>
>
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>
> Mark Robson
>
>
>
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