Dependency Hell (Was: Re:)

JJ Neff jjneff at yahoo.com
Sat May 17 02:16:47 EDT 2003


Yes Brother Preach !  (reading my mail on a Debian box.  I started on Debian
and have always "come home" to it after times away.

FOr my graphical friends I recommend Mandrake, but for my servers and all my
crash boxes I use Debian.

JJN
--- "Mark T. Valites" <valites at geneseo.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 May 2003, David Dudek wrote:
> 
> > I've been curious about Debian.  Is it still a pain to install?  Is the
> > installation customizeable via something like Red Hat's kickstart?  How
> > easy is it to use and upgrade once it is installed?
> 
> Whether or not the install is a pain could turn into a near religous
> arguement.  Personally, I really like the install, but I think the answer
> to your question is yes, it can still be a pain.  You may want to download
> the Knoppix images [1] - it's a graphical installer for Debian that's
> gotten good reviews.  I've also heard good things about Kondara [2].
> Kondara takes a Debian base & tacks on CrossOver, but there is a small fee
> to get it legaly.
> 
> [1] http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2002/1104.barr.html
> [2] http://www.kondara.org
> 
> Debian does have an automated install called FAI (Fully Automated
> Install).  I have yet to play with it much, but it is far from Kickstart.
> 
> As for use, I can't imagine *not* having Debian.  Debian straictly adhears
> to the FHS (Filesystem Hierachy Standard) [3], so you always know where
> files from packages will be located.  Debian's really "smart" about
> things.  If you install a package, there *will* be startup & shutdown
> scripts, the config files *will* live in /etc/, etc...
> 
> [3] http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
> 
> You can't beat a Debian upgrade.  Period.
> 
> apt-get update
> apt-get -u distupgrade
> 
> And every single package on your system is up to date.
> 
> Well hopefully I've convinced at least a couple people to try Debian.  I
> do suggest that instead of downloading the 6 isos, you get a small
> (20-30Mb) iso [4] and install the base system from that & the rest over
> the network.
> 
> http://people.debian.org/~ieure/netinst/
> 
> If anyone has Debian questions, let me know.
> 
> -Mark
> 
> -- 
> Mark T. Valites
> Unix Systems Analyst
> CIT - SUNY Geneseo
> >--))> >--))>
> 


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