Installing a new hard disk
Asheville Joe
josephj at main.nc.us
Sat Aug 16 12:42:49 EDT 2003
I rechecked the jumper. It matches the documentation for slave. I
tried making it master and the machine wouldn't boot, so it is reading
the jumper. I notice that bios does not detect the drive. I put the
old drive in and it still gets recognized, but now I can't mount it.
Says I have to specify drive type, but ext2, ext3, msdos, and vfat don't
work. I have attached the dmesg from mounting the old drive. When
booting, I get a screen about new hardware detected yes or no something,
but it goes by too quickly for me to read it. What do I try next?
Joe
Asheville Joe wrote:
> Thanks. Between you and Peter I see that I'm having some sort of
> hardware problem with the drive. I'll play with it as soon as I have
> time. AS for "removeable" - I'll rename the darn thing rather than
> learn to spell ;)
>
> Thanks.
>
> Joe
>
> Robert Meyer wrote:
>
>> --- Asheville Joe <josephj at main.nc.us> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> OK. What else is new? I don't know how to run fdisk! It seemed
>>> simple enough, but below is my attempt.
>>>
>>> [root at localhost bigbird]# man fdisk
>>> [root at localhost bigbird]# fdisk /dev/hdb1
>>>
>>> Unable to open /dev/hdb1
>>>
>>
>>
>> This is expected. You can only fdisk the base device, not a
>> partition/slice.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> [root at localhost bigbird]# fdisk /dev/hdb
>>>
>>> Unable to open /dev/hdb
>>>
>>
>>
>> Looks like it doesn't know that /dev/hdb is there which seems to
>> indicate that
>> the disk was not in the slot when the machine was booted.
>>
>>
>>
>>> [root at localhost bigbird]# mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/removable
>>> mount: mount point /mnt/removable does not exist
>>> [root at localhost bigbird]# ls /mnt
>>> cdrom/ dos_hda1/ dos_hda5/ floppy/ removeable/ win_c2/
>>> win_d2/ win_e/
>>> [root at localhost bigbird]# mount /dev/hdb1 removable
>>> mount: mount point removable does not exist
>>>
>>
>>
>> You keep dropping the 'e' out of removeable (not removable). Don't
>> you HATE
>> when computers do what you tell them, and not what you mean???
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> [root at localhost bigbird]# man fdisk
>>> [root at localhost bigbird]# ls /dev/hd*
>>> /dev/hda@ /dev/hda1@ /dev/hda2@ /dev/hda5@ /dev/hda6@
>>> /dev/hda7@ /dev/hda8@ /dev/hda9@ /dev/hdc@
>>> [root at localhost bigbird]#
>>>
>>> The other drive (4GB IDE) works fine when installed and is /dev/hdb1
>>> (/mnt/removeable). BTW, What are all these at signs for and what's
>>> /dev/hdc? Does it mean I got the hard drive jumper set wrong?
>>>
>>
>>
>> The '@' signs mean that those are symbolic links. In all likelyhood,
>> the
>> actual drive names are /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part? where
>> the '?' is
>> a number from 1 to 9 and /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disk which
>> refers to
>> the whole disk for '/dev/hda'. Drives are as followed (in the /dev/hd?
>> context)
>> hda - primary master
>> hdb - primary slave
>> hdc - secondary master
>> hdd - secondary slave
>>
>> You may have a CDROM drive on the secondary interface as master which
>> would be
>> /dev/hdc.
>>
>> Hope this helps...
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> This is what cfdisk displays (with some whitespace deleted).
>>>
>>> cfdisk 2.11x
>>>
>>> Disk Drive: /dev/hda
>>> Size: 30735581184 bytes, 30.7 GB
>>> Heads: 255 Sectors per Track: 63 Cylinders: 3736
>>>
>>> Name Flags Part Type FS Type [Label] ize (MB)
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> hda1 Boot Primary Win95 FAT32 3668.48
>>> hda5 Logical Win95 FAT32 3553.33
>>> hda6 Logical Linux ext2 16.46
>>> hda7 Logical Linux ext3 6407.50
>>> hda8 Logical Linux swap 830.76
>>> hda9 Logical Linux ext3 16253.16
>>>
>>> Robert Meyer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well, changing the line in fstab only makes it stop trying to fsck
>>>> on the
>>>>
>>>
>>> way
>>>
>>>
>>>> up. All other file system things that you want to do, you still
>>>> have to do.
>>>>
>>>> If you have a new drive and want to use it with linux, then you
>>>> have to
>>>>
>>>
>>> fdisk
>>>
>>>
>>>> it and do either 'mke2fs -j /dev/hdb1' or 'mke2fs /dev/hdb1'
>>>> (journalled or
>>>> not) and then mount the drive. I suspect that you can do that from
>>>> the
>>>> mandrake control center. This assumes you're going to make all one
>>>>
>>>
>>> partition.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>> --- Asheville Joe <josephj at main.nc.us> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I was hoping it was something simple like that! I'll try that.
>>>>> Then what? mkfs and it's cousins have a bunch of options I don't
>>>>> really understand. Or will harddrake do it for me?
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Meyer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's bombing out 'cuz you're telling it to fsck the thing in your
>>>>>> fstab.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Change the fstab line to read:
>>>>>> /dev/hdb1 /mnt/removeable ext3 user,noauto,rw,suid,exec 0 0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope this helps...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>> --- Asheville Joe <josephj at main.nc.us> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi. Linux 101 question:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I bought a new hard drive (for use with my new - not purchased
>>>>>>> yet - computer).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have two hard drives in my current computer, the main one
>>>>>>> (dual boot Linux and WIN98), and one in a removable bay.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the removable one (hdb1) set as noauto in fstab.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, I shut down my computer, pulled the old removable drive out
>>>>>>> and put the new one in thinking it would boot up fine and let me
>>>>>>> figure out how to format the new drive to ext3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh well! Mandrake (9.1 RC2) sees the new drive, can't read it
>>>>>>> and gets upset. It will only boot into maintenance mode and I
>>>>>>> don't know enough to proceed. That wasn't too bad, but I
>>>>>>> thought that having it set to noauto would have gotten me around
>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, I shutdown and removed the new drive then rebooted. It
>>>>>>> still won't let me past maintenance mode because it's missing
>>>>>>> it's beloved drive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Questions:
>>>>>>> 1) How do I set up my computer so that it is happy whether or
>>>>>>> not hdb1 is there?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) How do I put the new drive in and format it (mkfs.ext3?)?
>>>>>>> It's a 120GB IDE drive that I will probably use for media files
>>>>>>> and image backups of the main drive on my new system when I get
>>>>>>> it. (It will be installed in the new computer - so Bob, don't
>>>>>>> yell at me for putting more stuff in this old clunker. ;))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) If I want to rename my drives - e.g. from dos_hda1 to
>>>>>>> cdrive_hda1, etc., do I have to do anything other than change
>>>>>>> the entries in /etc/fstab? Is there anything to watch out for?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My /etc/fstab:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /dev/hda7 / ext3 defaults 1 1
>>>>>>> /dev/hda6 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2
>>>>>>> none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
>>>>>>> /dev/hda9 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
>>>>>>> none /mnt/cdrom supermount
>>>>>>> dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codep
>>>>>>> age=850,umask=0 0 0
>>>>>>> /dev/hda1 /mnt/dos_hda1 vfat
>>>>>>> iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0,defaults 0
>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>> /dev/hda5 /mnt/dos_hda5 vfat
>>>>>>> iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0,defaults 0
>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>> none /mnt/floppy supermount
>>>>>>> dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,cod
>>>>>>> epage=850,umask=0 0 0
>>>>>>> /dev/hdb1 /mnt/removeable ext3 user,noauto,rw,suid,exec 1 2
>>>>>>> none /proc proc defaults 0 0
>>>>>>> /dev/hda8 swap swap defaults 0 0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I shut down, put my old drive back in and it works as advertized.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [root at localhost mnt]# mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/removeable
>>>>>>> [root at localhost mnt]# cd removeable
>>>>>>> [root at localhost removeable]# ls
>>>>>>> [root at localhost removeable]# df
>>>>>>> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
>>>>>>> /dev/hda7 5.9G 2.4G 3.2G 43% /
>>>>>>> /dev/hda6 16M 2.4M 13M 17% /boot
>>>>>>> /dev/hda9 15G 328M 15G 3% /home
>>>>>>> /dev/hda1 3.5G 2.3G 1.2G 66% /mnt/dos_hda1
>>>>>>> /dev/hda5 3.4G 876M 2.5G 26% /mnt/dos_hda5
>>>>>>> /dev/hdb1 4.0G 33M 3.7G 1% /mnt/removeable
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [root at localhost removeable]# cd ..
>>>>>>> [root at localhost mnt]# umount /dev/hdb1
>>>>>>> [root at localhost mnt]#
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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