Tue Aug 5 20:43:42 EDT 2003

not really, this is why I would like to see a few meetings on kernels.
My point simply is this. What if I have a new RedHat install and I
realize that I need to customize the kernel for whatever reason, be it a
digital camera that needs support or the fact that I want my kernel to
actually use a config for an Athlon processor and not a generic Pll
setup. I am looking for a way to modify the kernel I have so I dont have
to go through the entire choice list from scratch, or am I getting this
all wrong??
On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 20:21, Mark Musone wrote:

> I’m very very confused right now..
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> the kernel is not compiled during the install. the whole point of
> redhat is that essentially _everything_ possible is compiled as
> modules.
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> other minimal stuff is then compiled into the kernel, and the
> remaining stuff is neither a module or compiled in (ntfs for example).
> this is all done ahead of time (in the redhat labs)..
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> the install program only chooses what modules to _load_. that’s the
> supposed beauty of both redhat and a true modular OS,
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> compile everything as a module and then load it as-needed. 
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> this is why you want to use the .config from the redhat kernel-source
> package.
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> There is only a handful of unique .config files with redhat. one for
> each architecture type, and then for dual or single cpu’s.
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> cause the last thing you want to do is remove modules that redhat is
> expecting..
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> make sense?
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> -Mark
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> From: owner-nflug at nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug at nflug.org] On Behalf
> Of Cyber Source
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:40 PM
> To: nflug at nflug.org
> Subject: Re: Re:
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> Yes, I know all that but it does not create a .config file based on
> that and I am looking for a way to do it
> On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 19:29, Ron wrote: 
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> logical but incomplete, sorry, of course the install program would have made 
> changes based on it's probing of the hardware and user input
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> On August 5, 2003 06:58 pm, Cyber Source wrote:
> > that would be a logical thought but it appears not to be that way
> >
> > On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 18:49, Ron wrote:
> > > Would the kernel not be compiled during the install from the same .config
> > > file that is included in the kernel source package with the result that
> > > it is based on what is already there?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ron
> > > ronb at cogeco.ca
> > >
> > > On August 5, 2003 06:15 pm, Cyber Source wrote:
> > > > what would be the use in that? I know they have to start somewhere but
> > > > I can't see a use to have the default settings after the fact. So is
> > > > there no way to at  least create a .config file based on what is
> > > > already in the system from the install?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 17:43, Mark Musone wrote:
> > > > > Not in the case of for example redhat, when you install the
> > > > > kernel-source package, it has the .config file that came with that
> > > > > standard kernel
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > that way if you need to recompile the kernel sources, you don’t have
> > > > > to go about guessing what redhat has for the default settings..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Mark
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-nflug at nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug at nflug.org] On Behalf
> > > > > Of Cyber Source
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:20 PM
> > > > > To: nflug at nflug.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Re:
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, thanks to Kevin Glosser for the really nice post on kernel
> > > > > compiling. I was able to do a couple but as you said, you will
> > > > > probably not get it right the first time or so and I didnt, lol. What
> > > > > I would like to do is know how to take what you have from the install
> > > > > and manipulate that, instead of compiling from scratch. I know you
> > > > > put about moving the .config file but that doesnt seem to exist UNTIL
> > > > > you do the choices for compile, i.e. make xconfig.
> > > > > On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 16:52, Cyber Source wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Put a vote for that in for me too!
> > > > > On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 11:55, Riga, Anthony wrote:
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> > > > >
> > > > > Will there be any meetings this weekend?   I would be intrested in
> > > > > learning kernel compiles....
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