From robromito at adelphia.net Wed May 1 13:23:04 2002 From: robromito at adelphia.net (Robert Romito) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: OpenOffice 1.0 Now Available Message-ID: <3CD02478.6060503@adelphia.net> OpenOffice is based on StarOffice 5.2. Version 1.0 has officially been released. I switched from StarOffice 6.0 when my beta expired and found out Sun would be charging for StarOffice 6.0. OpenOffice is a solid office suite and worth trying - available for Linux and Windows. http://www.openoffice.org Enjoy! Robert Romito From peter at thecybersource.com Wed May 1 13:39:06 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: OpenOffice 1.0 Now Available In-Reply-To: <3CD02478.6060503@adelphia.net> References: <3CD02478.6060503@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1020274747.2255.2.camel@Office> It is included in the Mandrake 8.2 distro. It is by default NOT selected in the install routine but is only a checkbox away. I've been using it, works well although I have found a couple of glitches, like this very annoying border frame it puts around my envelope addresses that I can remove and save but still opens up with them there.
On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 13:23, Robert Romito wrote:

OpenOffice is based on StarOffice 5.2.  Version 1.0 has officially been 
released.  I switched from StarOffice 6.0 when my beta expired and found 
out Sun would be charging for StarOffice 6.0.  OpenOffice is a solid 
office suite and worth trying - available for Linux and Windows.

http://www.openoffice.org

Enjoy!

Robert Romito

From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Wed May 1 13:48:25 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: OpenOffice 1.0 Now Available In-Reply-To: <3CD02478.6060503@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <20020501174825.76761.qmail@web13308.mail.yahoo.com> I downloaded and installed it today. I was having a problem with a spreadsheet that I tried to import from Excel but it kept crashing both OpenOffice and Koffice. It works (with minor glitches) in OpenOffice 1.0. Also, for anyone that downloaded the beta versions of OpenOffice, only to find that the stuff to make KDE work wasn't there, there is now a kde/share directory with applnks and mimetype directories that can be copied directly to $HOME/.kde/share. Remember that for Mandrake KDE, applnk is really applnk-mdk. I copied them into my kde dir and everything worked, right off. Another satisfied customer... Cheers! Bob --- Robert Romito wrote: > OpenOffice is based on StarOffice 5.2. Version 1.0 has officially been > released. I switched from StarOffice 6.0 when my beta expired and found > out Sun would be charging for StarOffice 6.0. OpenOffice is a solid > office suite and worth trying - available for Linux and Windows. > > http://www.openoffice.org > > Enjoy! > > Robert Romito > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil Wed May 1 14:55:55 2002 From: WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil (Wechter, Ron) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: OpenOffice 1.0 Now Available Message-ID: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8AC@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil>

If OpenOffice.org 1.0 was just released how was it distributed with Mandrake?

-----Original Message-----
From: Cyber Source [mailto:peter@thecybersource.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:39 PM
To: nflug@nflug.org
Subject: Re: OpenOffice 1.0 Now Available

It is included in the Mandrake 8.2 distro. It is by default NOT selected in the install routine but is only a checkbox away. I've been using it, works well although I have found a couple of glitches, like this very annoying border frame it puts around my envelope addresses that I can remove and save but still opens up with them there.
On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 13:23, Robert Romito wrote:
OpenOffice is based on StarOffice 5.2.  Version 1.0 has officially been 
released.  I switched from StarOffice 6.0 when my beta expired and found 
out Sun would be charging for StarOffice 6.0.  OpenOffice is a solid 
office suite and worth trying - available for Linux and Windows.

http://www.openoffice.org

Enjoy!

Robert Romito

From gjn at certainlywood.com Wed May 1 15:35:54 2002 From: gjn at certainlywood.com (Gregory J. Neumann) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: OpenOffice 1.0 Now Available In-Reply-To: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8AC@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <3CD00B5A.9122.C52388@localhost> It's not "exactly" the 1.0 release. I remember something about it on the OpenOffice.org mailing lists, but I can't remember exactly what was said. I've been using the 641D build on Win98 since it was available, and I like it alot. The only down side is that Star Office 5.x had a "paint shop" like image editor that OOo doesn't have. Past that, 641D is more stable and faster than Star Office 5.x, and so similar to Star Office 6 beta that I can't tell the difference - except OOo is more stable. One caveat, DON'T save to Word format and reopen it expecting it to look the same! They make no guarantees on that. But do get it! -Greg > If OpenOffice.org 1.0 was just released how was it distributed with > Mandrake? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cyber Source [mailto:peter@thecybersource.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:39 PM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: Re: OpenOffice 1.0 Now Available > > > It is included in the Mandrake 8.2 distro. It is by default NOT selected in > the install routine but is only a checkbox away. I've been using it, works > well although I have found a couple of glitches, like this very annoying > border frame it puts around my envelope addresses that I can remove and save > but still opens up with them there. > On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 13:23, Robert Romito wrote: > > OpenOffice is based on StarOffice 5.2. Version 1.0 has officially been > > released. I switched from StarOffice 6.0 when my beta expired and found > > out Sun would be charging for StarOffice 6.0. OpenOffice is a solid > > office suite and worth trying - available for Linux and Windows. > > > > http://www.openoffice.org > > > > Enjoy! > > > > Robert Romito > > From peter at thecybersource.com Wed May 1 18:03:38 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: OpenOffice 1.0 Now Available In-Reply-To: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8AC@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> References: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8AC@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <1020290621.2217.0.camel@Office> it's not the same version
On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 14:55, Wechter, Ron wrote:

If OpenOffice.org 1.0 was just released how was it distributed with Mandrake?
-----Original Message-----
From: Cyber Source [mailto:peter@thecybersource.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:39 PM
To: nflug@nflug.org
Subject: Re: OpenOffice 1.0 Now Available

It is included in the Mandrake 8.2 distro. It is by default NOT selected in the install routine but is only a checkbox away. I've been using it, works well although I have found a couple of glitches, like this very annoying border frame it puts around my envelope addresses that I can remove and save but still opens up with them there.
On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 13:23, Robert Romito wrote:
OpenOffice is based on StarOffice 5.2.  Version 1.0 has officially been 
released.  I switched from StarOffice 6.0 when my beta expired and found 
out Sun would be charging for StarOffice 6.0.  OpenOffice is a solid 
office suite and worth trying - available for Linux and Windows.

http://www.openoffice.org

Enjoy!

Robert Romito

From Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com Fri May 3 07:31:49 2002 From: Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com (Riga, Anthony) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: Samba Message-ID: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F30337706569A@bu2102.searbrown.com> I am running Samba server dual boot with windoze 2000 with Redhat 7.1 now because for the 5th time my Redhat 7.2 keeps crashing. I think I have a bad distro. Every once in awhile my nmbd daemon stops running. How can I restart it? When I use the command /etc/init.d/smb both say ok but when I look in SWAT its not running. The only one running is smbd daemon. Can anyone explain what I am doing wrong . I do test parm everything is fine I restart xinet.d its fine. From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Fri May 3 08:20:09 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: Samba References: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F30337706569A@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <3CD28079.154DA1D4@dynabrade.com> which versions of samba are you using. I believe 7.1 is 2.0.7 and 7.2 is the new 2.2 samba series. I had a lot of grief with samba 2.2 loosing connections, users would loose access to their files and shares from 2000 clients, ect. SO on my 7.2 samba server I downgraded to samba 2.0.7 (the one from 7.1 if I remeber correctly) so I would believe the Dist. is ok, just some problems with the samba packaged with it. I would look for a new samba package, or if you do a rpm -qa |grep samba on the 7.2 box it will tell you what version of samba, I may have a newver one (I'm beta testing skipjack (the new redhat release). It may have a better samba package. Justin "Riga, Anthony" wrote: > I am running Samba server dual boot with windoze 2000 with Redhat 7.1 now because for the 5th time my Redhat 7.2 keeps crashing. I think I have a bad distro. Every once in awhile my nmbd daemon stops running. How can I restart it? When I use the command /etc/init.d/smb both say ok but when I look in SWAT its not running. The only one running is smbd daemon. Can anyone explain what I am doing wrong . I do test parm everything is fine I restart xinet.d its fine. -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 3 08:18:46 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: galeon Message-ID: <1020428327.4449.2.camel@Office> Hello All,
Does anyone know how to add the shockwave plugin to the galeon web browser? It is a great browser but so many sites today are using shockwave it is almost necessary to have that plugin. I know it is based on mozilla and needs mozilla to run but I'm not sure where the files are for the plugin. Anyone?

From Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com Fri May 3 08:36:50 2002 From: Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com (Riga, Anthony) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: galeon Message-ID: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063BF8@bu2102.searbrown.com>

I have had problems trying to load the shockwave plugins on netscape and mozilla. Let me know too!

-----Original Message-----
From: Cyber Source [mailto:peter@thecybersource.com]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 8:19 AM
To: nflug@nflug.org
Subject: galeon

Hello All,
Does anyone know how to add the shockwave plugin to the galeon web browser? It is a great browser but so many sites today are using shockwave it is almost necessary to have that plugin. I know it is based on mozilla and needs mozilla to run but I'm not sure where the files are for the plugin. Anyone?

From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Fri May 3 08:38:01 2002 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: galeon In-Reply-To: <1020428327.4449.2.camel@Office> Message-ID: Are you sure Macromedia ported Shockwave to linux? I thought only Flash was available for the linux distro. But the only way I can think of would be to copy the 2 flash plugin files into your browser's plugin directory & see if gets identified by your browser upon startup. > Does anyone know how to add the shockwave plugin to the galeon web > browser? It is a great browser but so many sites today are using > shockwave it is almost necessary to have that plugin. I know it is based > on mozilla and needs mozilla to run but I'm not sure where the files are > for the plugin. Anyone? Dege So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny .... If They Weren't Happening To Me From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 3 08:50:14 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: galeon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1020430215.4449.11.camel@Office> I've downloaded and installed the new netscape and installed the flash on there and it works great. However, I am starting to prefer Galeon over Netscape because you can disable those very annoying popups in Galeon, Very cool feature! and it works!. So I know that flash will work on Linux, because I currently have it running on Netscape, same machine. I think the problem is, I can't find the plugin directory for Mozilla, which I believe and have read, is really the backend to Galeon. I have looked in my ~/.mozilla directory and don't see any plugin directory there or down further in the tree....
On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 08:38, Robert Dege wrote:

Are you sure Macromedia ported Shockwave to linux?  I thought only Flash
was available for the linux distro.  But the only way I can think of would
be to copy the 2 flash plugin files into your browser's plugin directory &
see if gets identified by your browser upon startup.



>   Does anyone know how to add the shockwave plugin to the galeon web
> browser? It is a great browser but so many sites today are using
> shockwave it is almost necessary to have that plugin. I know it is based
> on mozilla and needs mozilla to run but I'm not sure where the files are
> for the plugin. Anyone?



Dege

So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny
.... If They Weren't Happening To Me

From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Fri May 3 09:08:26 2002 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: Samba In-Reply-To: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F30337706569A@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: Okay, you can check the status of samba by doing: /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb status to restart the Samba service: /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb restart xinet.d is only used by Samba in conjunction with Swat. If xinet.d in not running, it does not impair Samba's functionality. It only prevents you from using Swat (for configuring Samba) If swat says that it's not running, but `/etc/rc.d/init/d/smb status` says that it is, try doing: ps -ef | grep nmbd This should let you know. -Rob ======== > I am running Samba server dual boot with windoze 2000 with Redhat 7.1 now because for the 5th time my Redhat 7.2 keeps crashing. I think I have a bad distro. Every once in awhile my nmbd daemon stops running. How can I restart it? When I use the command /etc/init.d/smb both say ok but when I look in SWAT its not running. The only one running is smbd daemon. Can anyone explain what I am doing wrong . I do test parm everything is fine I restart xinet.d its fine. Dege So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny .... If They Weren't Happening To Me From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Fri May 3 09:14:06 2002 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: galeon In-Reply-To: <1020430215.4449.11.camel@Office> Message-ID: For Mozilla, I put almost all the plugins in the global plugins directory, which is mozilla/plugins (where ever mozilla is installed). Relaunching the browser -> about:plugins shows the current list of plugins used. I find user plugins restrictive if/when I swap between root & my local user. But that's my caveat ;) -Rob > I've downloaded and installed the new netscape and installed the flash > on there and it works great. However, I am starting to prefer Galeon > over Netscape because you can disable those very annoying popups in > Galeon, Very cool feature! and it works!. So I know that flash will work > on Linux, because I currently have it running on Netscape, same machine. > I think the problem is, I can't find the plugin directory for Mozilla, > which I believe and have read, is really the backend to Galeon. I have > looked in my ~/.mozilla directory and don't see any plugin directory > there or down further in the tree.... > On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 08:38, Robert Dege wrote: > > Are you sure Macromedia ported Shockwave to linux? I thought only Flash > was available for the linux distro. But the only way I can think of would > be to copy the 2 flash plugin files into your browser's plugin directory & > see if gets identified by your browser upon startup. > > > > > Does anyone know how to add the shockwave plugin to the galeon web > > browser? It is a great browser but so many sites today are using > > shockwave it is almost necessary to have that plugin. I know it is based > > on mozilla and needs mozilla to run but I'm not sure where the files are > > for the plugin. Anyone? > > > > Dege > > So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny > .... If They Weren't Happening To Me > > Dege So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny .... If They Weren't Happening To Me From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Fri May 3 09:37:55 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: Samba In-Reply-To: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F30337706569A@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <20020503133755.44235.qmail@web13307.mail.yahoo.com> Check /var/log/samba/log.nmb and /var/log/samba/log.smb for errors. Samba is usually pretty good about identifying what it's not happy about. You can restart it by typing '/etc/init.d/smb restart'. It appears that your startup script does a status by default. Mine just gives an error message saying that it requires an argument. The 'status' argument on Mandrake 8.2 first tries to find the processes and then it looks in '/var/run/' for nmb.pid and smb.pid. If the 'pid' file exists, it assumes the process is running. xinetd is only for 'swat'. Samba doesn't use it. Check the error messages in /var/log/samba and see if there's anything that calls out a problem. Usually the biggest thing that will keep samba from starting is not being able to find the current host name in /etc/hosts or DNS. That's how it gets the IP address of the interface that it's supposed to use. Hope this helps... Cheers! Bob (trying to function on < 3 hours of sleep...) --- "Riga, Anthony" wrote: > I am running Samba server dual boot with windoze 2000 with Redhat 7.1 now > because for the 5th time my Redhat 7.2 keeps crashing. I think I have a bad > distro. Every once in awhile my nmbd daemon stops running. How can I restart > it? When I use the command /etc/init.d/smb both say ok but when I look in > SWAT its not running. The only one running is smbd daemon. Can anyone explain > what I am doing wrong . I do test parm everything is fine I restart xinet.d > its fine. ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From jbielli at netsos.com Fri May 3 10:22:35 2002 From: jbielli at netsos.com (Joe Bielli) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: netatalk+asun woes Message-ID: <001701c1f2ad$f8ad3750$07437fcf@CSOS.NETSOS.COM>

I am having an extremely odd problem with netatalk, and I’m not sure if anyone else has experienced this.

Basically, I have the linux box in a mixed mac/pc environment, its running samba and netatalk to provide file share access to the network.

The problem is, when dragging/dropping folders to the shares from a mac, I get a file access error, the folder is locked, etc.. I can drag as many files as I want, individually, however when I try to drag a folder containing files, it stops around 1.5 megabytes and gives me the error.. has anyone experienced this odd problem? Of course I have already verified permissions on the box..

Also, for anyone interested.. I had a major problem having netatalk seed a zone AND serve up shares.. to seed a zone, it seems you need to have multiple interfaces.. if you want to serve up files, the server needs to be running on a ‘different’ interface than the one you are seeding the zone on.. I accomplished this by routing between the internal lan (eth1) and dummy0..

heres my atalkd.conf:

eth1 -router -phase 2 -net 1-400 -addr 1.51 -zone "MYZONE"

dummy0 -router -phase 2 -net 500-600 -addr 500.75 -zone "MYZONE"

my afpd.conf:

- "DYNAMO" -transall -uamlist uams_guest.so,uams_clrtxt.so,uams_dhx.so -nosavepassword

AppleVolumes.default:

/storage/stor Storage options:noadouble,crlf

/storage/utpub UTPublic options:noadouble,crlf

/storage/graphics MACGraphics options:noadouble,crlf

Finding good information on netatalk seems to be difficult, apparently its primarily used in Europe J

Thanks!!!!

Joe Bielli

Software Development

Computer SOS, Inc.

1505 Cleveland Drive

Buffalo, NY 14225

From WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil Fri May 3 10:29:11 2002 From: WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil (Wechter, Ron) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: netatalk+asun woes Message-ID: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8BD@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil>

I had a co-worker at one point have a similar problem. I forget where he got the address from but somewhere on the "official" website for net-a-talk there is an email contact of the person who maintains it. Everytime my co-worker emailed the contact he got a response within 10-30mins.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Bielli [mailto:jbielli@netsos.com]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:23 AM
To: nflug@nflug.org
Subject: netatalk+asun woes

I am having an extremely odd problem with netatalk, and I'm not sure if anyone else has experienced this.

Basically, I have the linux box in a mixed mac/pc environment, its running samba and netatalk to provide file share access to the network.

The problem is, when dragging/dropping folders to the shares from a mac, I get a file access error, the folder is locked, etc.. I can drag as many files as I want, individually, however when I try to drag a folder containing files, it stops around 1.5 megabytes and gives me the error.. has anyone experienced this odd problem? Of course I have already verified permissions on the box..

Also, for anyone interested.. I had a major problem having netatalk seed a zone AND serve up shares.. to seed a zone, it seems you need to have multiple interfaces.. if you want to serve up files, the server needs to be running on a 'different' interface than the one you are seeding the zone on.. I accomplished this by routing between the internal lan (eth1) and dummy0..

heres my atalkd.conf:

eth1 -router -phase 2 -net 1-400 -addr 1.51 -zone "MYZONE"

dummy0 -router -phase 2 -net 500-600 -addr 500.75 -zone "MYZONE"

my afpd.conf:

- "DYNAMO" -transall -uamlist uams_guest.so,uams_clrtxt.so,uams_dhx.so -nosavepassword

AppleVolumes.default:

~

/storage/stor Storage options:noadouble,crlf

/storage/utpub UTPublic options:noadouble,crlf

/storage/graphics MACGraphics options:noadouble,crlf

Finding good information on netatalk seems to be difficult, apparently its primarily used in Europe J

Thanks!!!!

Joe Bielli

Software Development

Computer SOS, Inc.

1505 Cleveland Drive

Buffalo, NY 14225

From gjn at certainlywood.com Fri May 3 13:13:06 2002 From: gjn at certainlywood.com (Gregory J. Neumann) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: Samba In-Reply-To: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F30337706569A@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <3CD28CE2.30749.79196B@localhost> You can always type "nmbd -D" in a root console if "smbd" is still running. This often works for me, but I've never had Samba mysteriously kill nmbd processes. Usually it involves an ugly crash (are there any other kind?) of one of the windoze clients. Also, I'm just using Samba to provide access to the Linux server. BTW, why not just go to ftp.samba.org and get 2.2.4? Just out today! Be aware that Red Hat (maybe Mandrake, too?) puts Samba in different directories than the default source. There's instructions on how to handle it in the docs and on the website. 2.2.x did have some problems, and 2.2.3a was really the one you needed, but now that 2.2.4 is out, I'd just go to that. Just stirring things up! -Greg > I am running Samba server dual boot with windoze 2000 with Redhat 7.1 now because for the 5th time my Redhat 7.2 keeps crashing. I think I have a bad distro. Every once in awhile my nmbd daemon stops running. How can I restart it? When I use the command /etc/init.d/smb both say ok but when I look in SWAT its not running. The only one running is smbd daemon. Can anyone explain what I am doing wrong . I do test parm everything is fine I restart xinet.d its fine. From todd at phyberoptiks.net Sat May 4 00:35:37 2002 From: todd at phyberoptiks.net (Todd Wirth) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: Samba In-Reply-To: <3CD28079.154DA1D4@dynabrade.com> Message-ID: <004901c1f325$2383bc20$02fea8c0@pepsi> I'm not sure about RedHat, but you might want to check how nmbd is starting up. Heres a section from nmbd man page that applies AFAIK: ------- OPTIONS -D If specified, this parameter causes nmbd to operate as a daemon. That is, it detaches itself and runs in the background, fielding requests on the appropriate port. By default, nmbd will operate as a daemon if launched from a command shell. nmbd can also be operated from the inetd meta-daemon, although this is not recommended. ------- This should solve your problem if it is being run from inet.d. Like I said though, I'm not sure on how RedHat starts these up. -- Todd "Riga, Anthony" wrote: > I am running Samba server dual boot with windoze 2000 with Redhat 7.1 now because for the 5th time my Redhat 7.2 keeps crashing. I think I have a bad distro. Every once in awhile my nmbd daemon stops running. How can I restart it? When I use the command /etc/init.d/smb both say ok but when I look in SWAT its not running. The only one running is smbd daemon. Can anyone explain what I am doing wrong . I do test parm everything is fine I restart xinet.d its fine. From peter at thecybersource.com Sat May 4 08:40:16 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: galeon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1020516017.6539.2.camel@Office> Well that's all it was. Just had to know where the plugins directory was for mozilla. On my Mandrake 8.2 it turned out to be /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins , I copied the flash files into that directory and that was it! Now I really like this Galeon browser!
On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 09:14, Robert Dege wrote:

For Mozilla, I put almost all the plugins in the global plugins directory,
which is mozilla/plugins (where ever mozilla is installed).

Relaunching the browser -> about:plugins shows the current list of plugins
used.  I find user plugins restrictive if/when I swap between root & my
local user.  But that's my caveat ;)

-Rob

> I've downloaded and installed the new netscape and installed the flash
> on there and it works great. However, I am starting to prefer Galeon
> over Netscape because you can disable those very annoying popups in
> Galeon, Very cool feature! and it works!. So I know that flash will work
> on Linux, because I currently have it running on Netscape, same machine.
> I think the problem is, I can't find the plugin directory for Mozilla,
> which I believe and have read, is really the backend to Galeon. I have
> looked in my ~/.mozilla directory and don't see any plugin directory
> there or down further in the tree....
> On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 08:38, Robert Dege wrote:
>
>     Are you sure Macromedia ported Shockwave to linux?  I thought only Flash
>     was available for the linux distro.  But the only way I can think of would
>     be to copy the 2 flash plugin files into your browser's plugin directory &
>     see if gets identified by your browser upon startup.
>
>
>
>     >   Does anyone know how to add the shockwave plugin to the galeon web
>     > browser? It is a great browser but so many sites today are using
>     > shockwave it is almost necessary to have that plugin. I know it is based
>     > on mozilla and needs mozilla to run but I'm not sure where the files are
>     > for the plugin. Anyone?
>
>
>
>     Dege
>
>     So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny
>     .... If They Weren't Happening To Me
>
>



Dege

So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny
.... If They Weren't Happening To Me

From green_man at bluefrognet.net Sun May 5 21:09:41 2002 From: green_man at bluefrognet.net (S. Lawton) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: Modems Message-ID: <3CD59F95.382.1D1C7BD@localhost> Which would be easier, to install an external modem, or recompile my kernel with the neccessary drivers to make the HSP modem card work ? My goals are: a) to NOT crash my linux box anymore. b) to get the aforementioned on the internet with as little grief as possible. I know absolutely nothing about external modems except that they're an external device with all the HARDWARE required to do what a modem is supposed to do. I have a serial and two USB ports available. I have located and downloaded the [hopefully] correct targz with the drivers to make the PCtel HSP56 software modem work in linux, but I don't think I have the compiler unless Mandrake 8.1 gave it as part of the default rpms. I have the PCtel modem mini-Howto if anyone cares to read it for correctness. It makes a big deal about how you can break your machine and do this entirely at your own risk, and I'm very hesitant to fool with my kernel. Any input for or against either option gratefully accepted. Scott Registered Linux User 261118 From bradbartram at wycol.com Sun May 5 21:55:22 2002 From: bradbartram at wycol.com (Bradley J. Bartram) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: Modems In-Reply-To: <3CD59F95.382.1D1C7BD@localhost> References: <3CD59F95.382.1D1C7BD@localhost> Message-ID: <200205052155.22911.bradbartram@wycol.com> >From personal experience, I have tried many, many different internal modems with Linux. I tried win modems, other software based modems, hardware modems and even an old non-pnp ISA slot modem. I could get them to work, although I always had problems. Examples would include poor line speed, frequent dropped connections, un-reliable connection initializations, etc.. My problem was solved when I bought a top of the line hayes v.90 fax modem for way too much money. When an electrical surge from a nearby lightning hit melted it last summer, I bought some cheap no-name replacement external v.90 modem. I think it's a cnet something or other. Anyway, I currently use that modem, and have been without problem. This modem is an almost dedicated connection and can easily stay connected for 7 - 14 days without a hiccup. Long story short, go external, they may cost a little more but they're worth it in the long run. Just my $.02 brad On Sunday 05 May 2002 09:09 pm, S. Lawton wrote: > Which would be easier, to install an external modem, or recompile > my kernel with the neccessary drivers to make the HSP modem > card work ? > > My goals are: a) to NOT crash my linux box anymore. > b) to get the aforementioned on the internet with as > little grief as possible. > > I know absolutely nothing about external modems except that > they're an external device with all the HARDWARE required to do > what a modem is supposed to do. I have a serial and two USB > ports available. > > I have located and downloaded the [hopefully] correct targz with the > drivers to make the PCtel HSP56 software modem work in linux, > but I don't think I have the compiler unless Mandrake 8.1 gave it as > part of the default rpms. I have the PCtel modem mini-Howto if > anyone cares to read it for correctness. It makes a big deal about > how you can break your machine and do this entirely at your own > risk, and I'm very hesitant to fool with my kernel. > > Any input for or against either option gratefully accepted. > > > Scott > > Registered Linux User 261118 From peter at thecybersource.com Sun May 5 23:02:10 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: Modems In-Reply-To: <200205052155.22911.bradbartram@wycol.com> References: <3CD59F95.382.1D1C7BD@localhost> <200205052155.22911.bradbartram@wycol.com> Message-ID: <1020654131.3070.7.camel@Office> I have been using PCI software modems in Mandrake 8.2 and 8.1 and have not had any problems in many of the installs that I have done. I've got it down to a science on the current modems that we stock for $20.00. They are Aceex 56K V90 PCI modems with Conexant HSF chipset. I found the driver on linmodems.org and there are drivers for that particular modem for alot of the different Linux distros. The install was in French but I figured it out ok. I can literally install that modem in a Mandrake 8.2 or 8.1 in less than a minute. Haven't tried other distros. If you want on of those modems, let me know, I can also give you the driver on floppy. 553-8525 Peter
On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 21:55, Bradley J. Bartram wrote:

>From personal experience, I have tried many, many different internal modems 
with Linux.  I tried win modems, other software based modems, hardware modems 
and even an old non-pnp ISA slot modem.  I could get them to work, although I 
always had problems.  Examples would include poor line speed, frequent 
dropped connections, un-reliable connection initializations, etc..

My problem was solved when I bought a top of the line hayes v.90 fax modem for 
way too much money.  When an electrical surge from a nearby lightning hit 
melted it last summer, I bought some cheap no-name replacement external v.90 
modem.  I think it's a cnet something or other.  Anyway, I currently use that 
modem, and have been without problem.  This modem is an almost dedicated 
connection and can easily stay connected for 7 - 14 days without a hiccup.

Long story short, go external, they may cost a little more but they're worth 
it in the long run.  Just my $.02

brad

On Sunday 05 May 2002 09:09 pm, S. Lawton  wrote:
> Which would be easier, to install an external modem, or recompile
> my kernel with the neccessary drivers to make the HSP modem
> card work ?
>
> My goals are: a) to NOT crash my linux box anymore.
>                      b) to get the aforementioned on the internet with as
> little grief as possible.
>
> I know absolutely nothing about external modems except that
> they're an external device with all the HARDWARE required to do
> what a modem is supposed to do. I have a serial and two USB
> ports available.
>
> I have located and downloaded the [hopefully] correct targz with the
> drivers to make the PCtel HSP56 software modem work in linux,
> but I don't think I have the compiler unless Mandrake 8.1 gave it as
> part of the default rpms. I have the PCtel modem mini-Howto if
> anyone cares to read it for correctness. It makes a big deal about
> how you can break your machine and do this entirely at your own
> risk, and I'm very hesitant to fool with my kernel.
>
> Any input for or against either option gratefully accepted.
>
>
> Scott
>
> Registered Linux User 261118

From javabob at localnet.com Mon May 6 05:13:51 2002 From: javabob at localnet.com (Robert F. Stockdale IV) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:10 2005 Subject: Modems References: <3CD59F95.382.1D1C7BD@localhost> Message-ID: <3CD6494F.9070709@localnet.com> Easiest would definitely be to plug in an external modem. I won't run internal. I've got a Zoom V.92 and I never have problems with it. Run it from my server in a home mini network (Still under configuration). Bob S. Lawton wrote: > Which would be easier, to install an external modem, or recompile > my kernel with the neccessary drivers to make the HSP modem > card work ? > > My goals are: a) to NOT crash my linux box anymore. > b) to get the aforementioned on the internet with as > little grief as possible. > > I know absolutely nothing about external modems except that > they're an external device with all the HARDWARE required to do > what a modem is supposed to do. I have a serial and two USB > ports available. > > I have located and downloaded the [hopefully] correct targz with the > drivers to make the PCtel HSP56 software modem work in linux, > but I don't think I have the compiler unless Mandrake 8.1 gave it as > part of the default rpms. I have the PCtel modem mini-Howto if > anyone cares to read it for correctness. It makes a big deal about > how you can break your machine and do this entirely at your own > risk, and I'm very hesitant to fool with my kernel. > > Any input for or against either option gratefully accepted. > > > Scott > > Registered Linux User 261118 > > > From colszewski at adelphia.net Mon May 6 10:42:07 2002 From: colszewski at adelphia.net (colszewski@adelphia.net) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Modems Message-ID: <102069655501@mail1.emumail.net> If you are looking for the simplest way out I would recommend going with a external Hayes or US Robotics modem. I use these modems at several of our remote offices and they work flawlessly. Chet On Sun, 5 May 2002 21:09:41 -0400 "S. Lawton " wrote: > Which would be easier, to install an external modem, or recompile > my kernel with the neccessary drivers to make the HSP modem > card work ? > > My goals are: a) to NOT crash my linux box anymore. > b) to get the aforementioned on the internet with as > little grief as possible. > > I know absolutely nothing about external modems except that > they're an external device with all the HARDWARE required to do > what a modem is supposed to do. I have a serial and two USB > ports available. > > I have located and downloaded the [hopefully] correct targz with the > drivers to make the PCtel HSP56 software modem work in linux, > but I don't think I have the compiler unless Mandrake 8.1 gave it as > part of the default rpms. I have the PCtel modem mini-Howto if > anyone cares to read it for correctness. It makes a big deal about > how you can break your machine and do this entirely at your own > risk, and I'm very hesitant to fool with my kernel. > > Any input for or against either option gratefully accepted. > > > Scott > > Registered Linux User 261118 From chaz03 at localnet.com Mon May 6 10:53:40 2002 From: chaz03 at localnet.com (Charles Rishel) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Modems In-Reply-To: <3CD59F95.382.1D1C7BD@localhost> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20020506104236.00a6d200@mail.localnet.com> As you have heard from many others, I also echo the sentiment that an external modem is the easiest and fastest way to get your linux box online. When I initially got into linux, I had an internal ISA modem in my computer. I fiddled with ISAPNPTOOLS, SETSERIAL and a whole host of other utilities to try and get it to work.. with limited or no success. Six months later I finally got it to work, when of all things, I was configuring my soundcard.. ISA also.. and in the resulting ISA config file I noticed that it picked up my modem also.. then it finally worked. When I decided to upgrade from 28.8 to 56K, I got a great deal on a 'Winlight' external 56K modem, so I bought it. Although I hate additional external devices cluttering the desktop, and the additional wires associated, I found that I could have any new install of Linux online within 10 minutes with the external modem. From that moment on, I have NEVER messed with another internal modem on my Linux boxes. Just my experience with internal modems and my .02 Chaz? At 09:09 PM 5/5/02 -0400, you wrote: >Which would be easier, to install an external modem, or recompile >my kernel with the neccessary drivers to make the HSP modem >card work ? > >My goals are: a) to NOT crash my linux box anymore. > b) to get the aforementioned on the internet with as >little grief as possible. > >I know absolutely nothing about external modems except that >they're an external device with all the HARDWARE required to do >what a modem is supposed to do. I have a serial and two USB >ports available. > >I have located and downloaded the [hopefully] correct targz with the >drivers to make the PCtel HSP56 software modem work in linux, >but I don't think I have the compiler unless Mandrake 8.1 gave it as >part of the default rpms. I have the PCtel modem mini-Howto if >anyone cares to read it for correctness. It makes a big deal about >how you can break your machine and do this entirely at your own >risk, and I'm very hesitant to fool with my kernel. > >Any input for or against either option gratefully accepted. > > >Scott > >Registered Linux User 261118 From kagalle at infoblvd.net Mon May 6 18:58:13 2002 From: kagalle at infoblvd.net (Ken Galle) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Modems In-Reply-To: <3CD59F95.382.1D1C7BD@localhost> References: <3CD59F95.382.1D1C7BD@localhost> Message-ID: <20020506185813.433eb2c3.kagalle@infoblvd.net> Though I agree external is the simplest way to get there, it is worth noting that there is one bright spot for internal modems - actiontec. All of there modems are complete/full/not-winmodem modems, even the pci. I have an isa, but also checked out pci and they have the Actiontec 56K PCI PCI Master For awhile they were available at walmart. Some setup info from their web site, which basically boils down to telling linux where and what type of UART is in the modem, nothing wierd like patching kernels, etc (though I've have good success doing that with the LT modems)... http://www.actiontec.com/support/modems/pcimasterfaq.html#installlinux # cat /proc/pci The following is an example of information to look for: Bus 0, device 12, function 0: Communication controller: Lucent (ex-AT&T) Microelectronics Unknown device (rev 0). Vendor id=11c1. Device id=480. Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 11. Master Capable. No bursts. Min Gnt=252.Max Lat=14. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe0800000 [0xe0800000]. I/O at 0xa000 [0xa001]. I/O at 0x9800 [0x9801]. I/O at 0x9400 [0x9401]. Write down the first I/O range. The example shows that I/O is 0xa000. The values may vary, depending on the system. Then type # setserial /dev/ttyS3 port 0xa000 spd_vhi skip_test auto_irq autoconfig and hit enter. If there are no errors, then type # setserial /dev/ttyS3 uart 16550A On Sun, 5 May 2002 21:09:41 -0400 "S. Lawton " wrote: > Which would be easier, to install an external modem, or recompile > my kernel with the neccessary drivers to make the HSP modem > card work ? > > My goals are: a) to NOT crash my linux box anymore. > b) to get the aforementioned on the internet with as > little grief as possible. > > I know absolutely nothing about external modems except that > they're an external device with all the HARDWARE required to do > what a modem is supposed to do. I have a serial and two USB > ports available. > > I have located and downloaded the [hopefully] correct targz with the > drivers to make the PCtel HSP56 software modem work in linux, > but I don't think I have the compiler unless Mandrake 8.1 gave it as > part of the default rpms. I have the PCtel modem mini-Howto if > anyone cares to read it for correctness. It makes a big deal about > how you can break your machine and do this entirely at your own > risk, and I'm very hesitant to fool with my kernel. > > Any input for or against either option gratefully accepted. > > > Scott > > Registered Linux User 261118 > From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Mon May 6 21:11:21 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Modems References: <3CD59F95.382.1D1C7BD@localhost> <20020506185813.433eb2c3.kagalle@infoblvd.net> Message-ID: <000701c1f564$3a633740$f43afea9@celeronbox> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Galle" To: Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:58 PM Subject: Re: Modems > Though I agree external is the simplest way to get there, it is worth noting that there is one bright spot for internal modems - actiontec. All of there modems are complete/full/not-winmodem modems, even the pci. I have an isa, but also checked out pci and they have the > Actiontec 56K PCI PCI Master <-------------------------------------snip---------------------------------- -----> Hi. I have one of those Actiontec modems in my AMD box with Mandrake 8.1 Its an ISA model it works ok, but it is not as stable as others I've used. It will not work under dev/modem so I had to choose the ttys1 in other words com2 in order to get it to work. Also it does not connect up at a nice speed all the time. Often I have to disconnect and reconnect in order to get connect at useable speed. It is a nice cheep modem and I mean cheep. You get what you pay for! I would recommend to invest in a better quality modem like 3com usr or zoom something like that. These are of a better quality and more stable. Also if you've read the reviews about Actiontec modems you'll find out that this modem is a bit unstable and problematic. Hardware (controller) modems are going to get harder to find (and one day out of production) if windoze has their way. So you and I and everone else will find that the only available modems in the near future will be winmodems. Boy does that suck. So much for having the ability to find equipment for our (somewhat) legacy boxes on the stores shelfs. So buy up the stuff while you can I say just in case. I know I'm always looking around for stuff that the masses are asses are junking at the curb for parts that I've been collecting and sorting for spairs and extras. Get enough of the stuff together and you can Frankenstein a nice legacy box out of it. Well this is my two cents worth. Thanks:) Ron Maggio Have Screwdriver Will Travel Computer Repair Service P.O. BOX 186 Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186 Phone: (716) 677-5909 havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net > > For awhile they were available at walmart. Some setup info from their web site, which basically boils down to telling linux where and what type of UART is in the modem, nothing wierd like patching kernels, etc (though I've have good success doing that with the LT modems)... > > http://www.actiontec.com/support/modems/pcimasterfaq.html#installlinux > # cat /proc/pci > The following is an example of information to look for: > > Bus 0, device 12, function 0: > Communication controller: Lucent (ex-AT&T) > Microelectronics Unknown device (rev 0). > Vendor id=11c1. Device id=480. > Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 11. > Master Capable. No bursts. Min Gnt=252.Max Lat=14. > Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe0800000 > [0xe0800000]. > I/O at 0xa000 [0xa001]. > I/O at 0x9800 [0x9801]. > I/O at 0x9400 [0x9401]. > > Write down the first I/O range. The example shows that I/O is 0xa000. The values may vary, depending on the system. Then type > > # setserial /dev/ttyS3 port 0xa000 spd_vhi skip_test auto_irq autoconfig > and hit enter. > > If there are no errors, then type > > # setserial /dev/ttyS3 uart 16550A > > > On Sun, 5 May 2002 21:09:41 -0400 > "S. Lawton " wrote: > > > Which would be easier, to install an external modem, or recompile > > my kernel with the neccessary drivers to make the HSP modem > > card work ? > > > > My goals are: a) to NOT crash my linux box anymore. > > b) to get the aforementioned on the internet with as > > little grief as possible. > > > > I know absolutely nothing about external modems except that > > they're an external device with all the HARDWARE required to do > > what a modem is supposed to do. I have a serial and two USB > > ports available. > > > > I have located and downloaded the [hopefully] correct targz with the > > drivers to make the PCtel HSP56 software modem work in linux, > > but I don't think I have the compiler unless Mandrake 8.1 gave it as > > part of the default rpms. I have the PCtel modem mini-Howto if > > anyone cares to read it for correctness. It makes a big deal about > > how you can break your machine and do this entirely at your own > > risk, and I'm very hesitant to fool with my kernel. > > > > Any input for or against either option gratefully accepted. > > > > > > Scott > > > > Registered Linux User 261118 > > > From green_man at bluefrognet.net Mon May 6 21:38:04 2002 From: green_man at bluefrognet.net (S. Lawton) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Modems Message-ID: <3CD6F7BC.11608.12DC31C@localhost> Thanks, guys ! No input from the kernel crunchers yet ? Here's the deal. I spent a lot of time at linmodems.org. Because I have on board sound via AC97 Codec, I have an AMR modem [Audio Modem Riser]. The modem card itself is about 2 in. by 2in. The ONLY thing it does is convert machine voltage to phone company voltage and vice versa. It's an HSP chipset [Host Signal Processor] which means that all DAC/ADC [digital analog conversion/ analog digital conversion] is done by the CPU and software. I'm dual boot with Win 95 and Mandrake 8.1, and for some reason Win 95 doesn't like this thing either. I guess that's why they tried to push XP on me. Finances being limited, I could have XP or a processor, so I opted for the Athlon and no OS. Would an external modem [Serial or USB, I don't even know how they make them now] still be recognized as a PCI device ? My on board sound is. Supposedly one chipset on the board takes care of all the ADC/DAC- sound, modem and lan. It's looking like external is the way to go, maybe to get both OS's online. As I said, I have the drivers written by someone in Chile, but the last time I compiled anything it was on an IBM mainframe the size of a refrigerator, with a hard drive the size of a washing machine. Hollerith cards had just recently become obsolete ! A bit of advice for anyone thinking of getting a new computer and putting Linux in it - get a mother board with EXPANSION CARD SLOTS ! Microsoft is pushing on board sound and video and Intel is going along with it because it's cheaper and easier for the manufacturers, but only if the drivers are part of the licensed operating system. Scott Registered Linux User 261118 From peter at thecybersource.com Mon May 6 21:30:48 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Modems In-Reply-To: <000701c1f564$3a633740$f43afea9@celeronbox> References: <3CD59F95.382.1D1C7BD@localhost> <20020506185813.433eb2c3.kagalle@infoblvd.net> <000701c1f564$3a633740$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <1020735049.3370.5.camel@Office> As the hardware evolves, so will/must the software. I think the newer Mandrake distros run the win/lin modems just fine, have not had any problems at all. The only reason I am even using them now is because the newer motherboards are being made without ISA slots and the PCI hardware modems are ridiculous in price. My .04 cents worth (previously added .02 to this subject :) )
On Mon, 2002-05-06 at 21:11, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Galle" <kagalle@infoblvd.net>
To: <nflug@nflug.org>
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: Modems


> Though I agree external is the simplest way to get there, it is worth
noting that there is one bright spot for internal modems - actiontec.  All
of there modems are complete/full/not-winmodem modems, even the pci.  I have
an isa, but also checked out pci and they have the
> Actiontec 56K PCI PCI Master

<-------------------------------------snip----------------------------------
----->
Hi. I have one of those Actiontec modems in my AMD box with Mandrake 8.1 Its
an ISA model it works ok, but it is not as stable as others I've used. It
will not work under dev/modem so I had to choose the ttys1 in other words
com2 in order to get it to work. Also it does not connect up at a nice speed
all the time. Often I have to disconnect and reconnect in order to get
connect at useable speed. It is a nice cheep modem and I mean cheep. You get
what you pay for! I would recommend to invest in a better quality modem like
3com usr or zoom something like that. These are of a better quality and more
stable.
Also if you've read the reviews about Actiontec modems you'll find out that
this modem is a bit unstable and problematic.
Hardware (controller) modems are going to get harder to find (and one day
out of production) if windoze has their way.
So you and I and everone else will find that the only available modems in
the near future will be winmodems. Boy does that suck. So much for having
the ability to find equipment for our (somewhat) legacy boxes on the stores
shelfs. So buy up the stuff while you can I say just in case. I know I'm
always looking around for stuff that the masses are asses are junking at the
curb for parts that I've been collecting and sorting for spairs and extras.
Get enough of the stuff together and you can Frankenstein a nice legacy box
out of it. Well this is my two cents worth. Thanks:)

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net


>
> For awhile they were available at walmart.  Some setup info from their web
site, which basically boils down to telling linux where and what type of
UART is in the modem, nothing wierd like patching kernels, etc (though I've
have good success doing that with the LT modems)...
>
> http://www.actiontec.com/support/modems/pcimasterfaq.html#installlinux
> # cat /proc/pci
> The following is an example of information to look for:
>
> Bus  0, device  12, function  0:
>     Communication controller: Lucent (ex-AT&T)
>      Microelectronics Unknown device (rev 0).
>       Vendor id=11c1. Device id=480.
>       Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  IRQ 11.
>         Master Capable.  No bursts.  Min Gnt=252.Max Lat=14.
>       Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe0800000
>        [0xe0800000].
>       I/O at 0xa000 [0xa001].
>       I/O at 0x9800 [0x9801].
>       I/O at 0x9400 [0x9401].
>
> Write down the first I/O range. The example shows that I/O is 0xa000. The
values may vary, depending on the system. Then type
>
> # setserial /dev/ttyS3 port 0xa000 spd_vhi skip_test auto_irq autoconfig
> and hit enter.
>
> If there are no errors, then type
>
> # setserial /dev/ttyS3 uart 16550A
>
>
> On Sun, 5 May 2002 21:09:41 -0400
> "S. Lawton " <green_man@bluefrognet.net> wrote:
>
> > Which would be easier, to install an external modem, or recompile
> > my kernel with the neccessary drivers to make the HSP modem
> > card work ?
> >
> > My goals are: a) to NOT crash my linux box anymore.
> >                      b) to get the aforementioned on the internet with
as
> > little grief as possible.
> >
> > I know absolutely nothing about external modems except that
> > they're an external device with all the HARDWARE required to do
> > what a modem is supposed to do. I have a serial and two USB
> > ports available.
> >
> > I have located and downloaded the [hopefully] correct targz with the
> > drivers to make the PCtel HSP56 software modem work in linux,
> > but I don't think I have the compiler unless Mandrake 8.1 gave it as
> > part of the default rpms. I have the PCtel modem mini-Howto if
> > anyone cares to read it for correctness. It makes a big deal about
> > how you can break your machine and do this entirely at your own
> > risk, and I'm very hesitant to fool with my kernel.
> >
> > Any input for or against either option gratefully accepted.
> >
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > Registered Linux User 261118
> >
>

From chaz03 at localnet.com Tue May 7 04:38:32 2002 From: chaz03 at localnet.com (Charles Rishel) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Modems In-Reply-To: <3CD6F7BC.11608.12DC31C@localhost> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20020507043015.00a6a5c0@mail.localnet.com> At 09:38 PM 5/6/02 -0400, you wrote: > Because I >have on board sound via AC97 Codec, I have an AMR modem >[Audio Modem Riser]. The modem card itself is about 2 in. by 2in. I 'TRY' to avoid anything essential as onboard.. sound/net is fine.. but avoid video/modem from onboard I also figure you have to have at LEAST 3 expansion slots.. and at LEAST one external com port.. so you should be set if you go aftermarket, internal or external.. >I'm dual boot with Win 95 and Mandrake 8.1, and for some reason >Win 95 doesn't like this thing either. go figure.. they cant sell new product if the old product works fine.. >I guess that's why they tried to push XP on me. see above.. :-) >Finances being limited, I could have XP or a >processor, so I opted for the Athlon and no OS. > >Would an external modem [Serial or USB, I don't even know how >they make them now] still be recognized as a PCI device ? I have never seen a USB modem.. don't mean they don't make one.. just that I have not experienced one.. but Serial/Com port modems do still exist.. thank the heavens!! >My on >board sound is. Supposedly one chipset on the board takes care of >all the ADC/DAC- sound, modem and lan. > >It's looking like external is the way to go, maybe to get both OS's >online. As I said, I have the drivers written by someone in Chile, but >the last time I compiled anything it was on an IBM mainframe the >size of a refrigerator, with a hard drive the size of a washing >machine. Hollerith cards had just recently become obsolete ! > >A bit of advice for anyone thinking of getting a new computer and >putting Linux in it - get a mother board with EXPANSION CARD >SLOTS ! >Microsoft is pushing on board sound and video and Intel is >going along with it because they're in bed with M$ and making money.. >it's cheaper and easier for the >manufacturers, but only if the drivers are part of the licensed >operating system. >Scott > >Registered Linux User 261118 From Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com Tue May 7 12:44:56 2002 From: Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com (Riga, Anthony) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C09@bu2102.searbrown.com> Is there a meeting this week? From jbielli at netsos.com Tue May 7 12:55:34 2002 From: jbielli at netsos.com (Joe Bielli) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: In-Reply-To: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C09@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <000e01c1f5e8$018f4970$07437fcf@CSOS.NETSOS.COM> Next week.. the 19th -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Riga, Anthony Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:45 PM To: Nflug (E-mail) Subject: Is there a meeting this week? From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Tue May 7 13:17:49 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: References: <000e01c1f5e8$018f4970$07437fcf@CSOS.NETSOS.COM> Message-ID: <3CD80C3D.F860B67A@dynabrade.com> I haven't been to a meeting yet, I'd like to attend one, where are they held? Joe Bielli wrote: > Next week.. the 19th > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of > Riga, Anthony > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:45 PM > To: Nflug (E-mail) > Subject: > > Is there a meeting this week? -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From jjneff at yahoo.com Wed May 8 08:05:56 2002 From: jjneff at yahoo.com (JJ Neff) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Modems In-Reply-To: <3CD6F7BC.11608.12DC31C@localhost> Message-ID: <20020508120556.36155.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> I fought this beast for a long time, but finally just got (aquired?) a 56K external USB and never looked back. It worked flawlessly with my LRP box and if it hangs in any OS you merely flick the power button. Win9X may detect the external modem but in both OS's you can merely tell it a modem exists at COM port X and it works fine, just sends data to COM POrt X and modem takes care of rest. Flashing lights on front of modem are a HUGE help too. (Note: You do know what COM ports are where don't you :-) If not open the case and trace the serial port connectors or look at the serial port connection (it's normally labelled) In a Post Win9X world we are so used to letting the OS tell US what the ports are we have stopped looking for ourselves! <-- Mini-Rant :-) Also if you have a built in modem try to determine the com port it's using from watching start up or inBIOS. If using an external on a serial port disable the internal. Hope an idea here helps, JJN --- "S. Lawton " wrote: > Thanks, guys ! > No input from the kernel crunchers yet ? > > I'm dual boot with Win 95 and Mandrake 8.1, and for some reason > Win 95 doesn't like this thing either. I guess that's why they tried to > push XP on me. Finances being limited, I could have XP or a > processor, so I opted for the Athlon and no OS. > > Would an external modem [Serial or USB, I don't even know how > they make them now] still be recognized as a PCI device ? My on > board sound is. Supposedly one chipset on the board takes care of > all the ADC/DAC- sound, modem and lan. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Wed May 8 10:58:54 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Modems In-Reply-To: <20020508120556.36155.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020508145854.10963.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> I don't think you mean USB, here, do you? --- JJ Neff wrote: > I fought this beast for a long time, but finally just got (aquired?) a 56K > external USB and never looked back. It worked flawlessly with my LRP box and > if it hangs in any OS you merely flick the power button. Win9X may detect > the > external modem but in both OS's you can merely tell it a modem exists at COM > port X and it works fine, just sends data to COM POrt X and modem takes care > of > rest. Flashing lights on front of modem are a HUGE help too. > > (Note: You do know what COM ports are where don't you :-) If not open the > case > and trace the serial port connectors or look at the serial port connection > (it's normally labelled) In a Post Win9X world we are so used to letting the > OS > tell US what the ports are we have stopped looking for ourselves! <-- > Mini-Rant :-) > > Also if you have a built in modem try to determine the com port it's using > from > watching start up or inBIOS. If using an external on a serial port disable > the > internal. > > Hope an idea here helps, > > JJN > --- "S. Lawton " wrote: > > Thanks, guys ! > > No input from the kernel crunchers yet ? > > > > I'm dual boot with Win 95 and Mandrake 8.1, and for some reason > > Win 95 doesn't like this thing either. I guess that's why they tried to > > push XP on me. Finances being limited, I could have XP or a > > processor, so I opted for the Athlon and no OS. > > > > Would an external modem [Serial or USB, I don't even know how > > they make them now] still be recognized as a PCI device ? My on > > board sound is. Supposedly one chipset on the board takes care of > > all the ADC/DAC- sound, modem and lan. > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness > http://health.yahoo.com ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From robromito at adelphia.net Wed May 8 15:00:00 2002 From: robromito at adelphia.net (Robert Romito) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Why I Love Linux Message-ID: <3CD975B0.3010804@adelphia.net> A couple of nights ago I was playing with my Linux From Scratch (LFS) build. I'm building a boot disk for installing LFS on other systems. With the boot disk's root file system incubating deep within my /home directory, my work commenced. While residing in /home/<blahblahblah>/installdisk I discovered BusyBox (http://www.busybox.net); a nifty utility which allowed me to purge the boot disk's lib directory. Excited about finally fitting the kernel and root fs on one disk, I began to type. As root, from the /home/<blahblahblah>/installdisk, I typed rm -rf /lib/*. Oops... I meant to type rm -rf lib/*. Unfortunately, I didn't hit control-c fast enough. The /lib casualties were immense. Everything stopped working. Couldn't ls, cd, su, or cp. Couldn't even shutdown with ctrl+alt+del; I had to power off.

Following a colorful commentary on the preceeding action and resultant situation, I found peace. This is Linux, not Windows! I don't need to re-install and sacrifice all my tweaks and mods. Armed with my trusty Slackware 8.0 install CD, I started system CPR. From the install CD, I mounted the root partition, copied the glibc package to the root partition, installed the package, unmounted the root partition, removed the CD and rebooted. My system's pulse strengthened. I repeated the process twice, re-installing the glibc++ and e2fs packages. Upon the final reboot, login welcomed me with open arms and a login prompt. X loaded succesfully, NVidia logo and all. My applications ran with the same vigor as before my surprise attack. Then a lone, white dove soared across my screen...

... Ok, maybe a dove didn't fly across my screen. But my system came up beautifully, as though I had never wiped out the core libraries that 99% of the system relies on. Just imagine if I did this to c:\winnt\system32. The moral is that it's OK to suffer from Windows-panic-itis when you make a mistake as root. Just make sure you take a deep breath and remember you're in Linux land now. For that which cripples Windows only stings Linux. Just ensure a boot disk and the original install media is always close at hand.

Robert Romito.
From sonofrage at yahoo.com Wed May 8 18:57:52 2002 From: sonofrage at yahoo.com (Samuel Morales Jr.) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Why I Love Linux In-Reply-To: <3CD975B0.3010804@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <20020508225752.29381.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> good example! --- Robert Romito wrote: > A couple of nights ago I was playing with my Linux > From Scratch (LFS) > build. I'm building a boot disk for installing LFS > on other systems. > With the boot disk's root file system incubating > deep within my /home > directory, my work commenced. While residing in > /home//installdisk I discovered > BusyBox > (http://www.busybox.net); a > nifty utility which > allowed me to purge the boot disk's lib directory. > Excited about > finally fitting the kernel and root fs on one disk, > I began to type. As > root, from the /home//installdisk, I > typed rm -rf /lib/*. > Oops... I meant to type rm -rf lib/*. > Unfortunately, I didn't hit > control-c fast enough. The /lib casualties were > immense. Everything > stopped working. Couldn't ls, cd, su, or cp. > Couldn't even shutdown > with ctrl+alt+del; I had to power off. > > Following a colorful commentary on the preceeding > action and resultant > situation, I found peace. This is Linux, not > Windows! I don't need to > re-install and sacrifice all my tweaks and mods. > Armed with my trusty > Slackware 8.0 install CD, I started system CPR. > From the install CD, I > mounted the root partition, copied the glibc package > to the root > partition, installed the package, unmounted the root > partition, removed > the CD and rebooted. My system's pulse > strengthened. I repeated the > process twice, re-installing the glibc++ and e2fs > packages. Upon the > final reboot, login welcomed me with open arms and a > login prompt. X > loaded succesfully, NVidia logo and all. My > applications ran with the > same vigor as before my surprise attack. Then a > lone, white dove soared > across my screen... > > ... Ok, maybe a dove didn't fly across my screen. > But my system came up > beautifully, as though I had never wiped out the > core libraries that 99% > of the system relies on. Just imagine if I did this > to > c:\winnt\system32. The moral is that it's OK to > suffer from > Windows-panic-itis when you make a mistake as root. > Just make sure you > take a deep breath and remember you're in Linux land > now. For that > which cripples Windows only stings Linux. Just > ensure a boot disk and > the original install media is always close at hand. > > Robert Romito. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com From jjneff at yahoo.com Wed May 8 19:46:18 2002 From: jjneff at yahoo.com (JJ Neff) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Modems In-Reply-To: <20020508145854.10963.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020508234618.33882.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> No , just reading too many things at one time... :-) Was downloading Debian iso at same time, Gonna use Debian at work again. Want to give Debian a crac at workign through the M$ Proxy , apt-get works very well with http_proxy but I can no longer get wget to work with wgetrc. I think upgrading to Win2K proxy server hurt me. However, FTP in a web browser works in KDE3 from behind a M$ Proxy! This was a huge surprise.... JJN --- Robert Meyer wrote: > I don't think you mean USB, here, do you? > > --- JJ Neff wrote: > > I fought this beast for a long time, but finally just got (aquired?) a 56K > > external USB and never looked back. It worked flawlessly with my LRP box > and __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com From jjneff at yahoo.com Wed May 8 19:48:49 2002 From: jjneff at yahoo.com (JJ Neff) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Why I Love Linux In-Reply-To: <3CD975B0.3010804@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <20020508234849.83295.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> I must admit I got a little teary reading this! :-) Thanks for the tale of woe and recovery! JJN --- Robert Romito wrote: > A couple of nights ago I was playing with my Linux From Scratch (LFS) > build. I'm building a boot disk for installing LFS on other systems. > With the boot disk's root file system incubating deep within my /home > directory, my work commenced. While residing in > /home//installdisk I discovered BusyBox > (http://www.busybox.net); a nifty utility which > allowed me to purge the boot disk's lib directory. Excited about > finally fitting the kernel and root fs on one disk, I began to type. As > root, from the /home//installdisk, I typed rm -rf /lib/*. > Oops... I meant to type rm -rf lib/*. Unfortunately, I didn't hit > control-c fast enough. The /lib casualties were immense. Everything > stopped working. Couldn't ls, cd, su, or cp. Couldn't even shutdown > with ctrl+alt+del; I had to power off. > > Following a colorful commentary on the preceeding action and resultant > situation, I found peace. This is Linux, not Windows! I don't need to > re-install and sacrifice all my tweaks and mods. Armed with my trusty > Slackware 8.0 install CD, I started system CPR. From the install CD, I > mounted the root partition, copied the glibc package to the root > partition, installed the package, unmounted the root partition, removed > the CD and rebooted. My system's pulse strengthened. I repeated the > process twice, re-installing the glibc++ and e2fs packages. Upon the > final reboot, login welcomed me with open arms and a login prompt. X > loaded succesfully, NVidia logo and all. My applications ran with the > same vigor as before my surprise attack. Then a lone, white dove soared > across my screen... > > ... Ok, maybe a dove didn't fly across my screen. But my system came up > beautifully, as though I had never wiped out the core libraries that 99% > of the system relies on. Just imagine if I did this to > c:\winnt\system32. The moral is that it's OK to suffer from > Windows-panic-itis when you make a mistake as root. Just make sure you > take a deep breath and remember you're in Linux land now. For that > which cripples Windows only stings Linux. Just ensure a boot disk and > the original install media is always close at hand. > > Robert Romito. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com From Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com Thu May 9 11:01:54 2002 From: Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com (Riga, Anthony) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Redhat 7.3 Message-ID: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C12@bu2102.searbrown.com> Does anyone know where I can download Redhat 7.3 ? Has anyone used it yet? From jbielli at netsos.com Thu May 9 11:07:10 2002 From: jbielli at netsos.com (Joe Bielli) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Redhat 7.3 In-Reply-To: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C12@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <000e01c1f76b$3145bda0$07437fcf@CSOS.NETSOS.COM> Just started an install last night.. you should be able to get it at ftp.cse.buffalo.edu Joe -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Riga, Anthony Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 11:02 AM To: Nflug (E-mail) Subject: Redhat 7.3 Does anyone know where I can download Redhat 7.3 ? Has anyone used it yet? From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Thu May 9 11:17:43 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Redhat 7.3 In-Reply-To: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C12@bu2102.searbrown.com> References: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C12@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <1020957463.3083.12.camel@polo> Running it right Now... I have it on CD or you can attempt to download it. Fastest site to us, is UB. ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 11:01, Riga, Anthony wrote: > Does anyone know where I can download Redhat 7.3 ? Has anyone used it yet? From WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil Thu May 9 11:09:20 2002 From: WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil (Wechter, Ron) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Redhat 7.3 Message-ID: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8C7@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> I have a copy of all three cd's - Look on the RedHat mirror sites - Cornell under "edu" - I got them the DAY it was released in about 1hr and 10min. Also - I can send some out if people dont have cabgle lines - just gimme some addresses. Ron -----Original Message----- From: Riga, Anthony [mailto:Anthony.Riga@searbrown.com] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 11:02 AM To: Nflug (E-mail) Subject: Redhat 7.3 Does anyone know where I can download Redhat 7.3 ? Has anyone used it yet? From peter at thecybersource.com Thu May 9 11:52:04 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Topic for next meeting Message-ID: <1020959524.2226.7.camel@Office> Hello All,
Don't know if we have a topic for the next meeting but as I was talking with Bob Meyer last night on the phone, he suggested that I do a demonstration of a Mandrake 8.2 install and further to show how to install a software modem (as this has been a hot subject on here) Any thoughts?
p.s. It would be great if we could get that digital projector back again as well if we are to do this one.

From chaz03 at localnet.com Thu May 9 12:21:32 2002 From: chaz03 at localnet.com (Charles Rishel) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Why I Love Linux In-Reply-To: <3CD975B0.3010804@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20020509121146.00a60a30@mail.localnet.com> What a beautiful recovery doc, most would have pulled the sheets over the patient's head. Well done and Bravo!! :-)

This is one of the wonderful things about Linux, also one of the 'bad' things. Linux is strong enough to let you recover from 'user' mistakes, but will also gladly let you do what you want, even though sometimes it's not REALLY what you want to do.. but it IS what you told the system to do. LOL

I did a similar thing when first getting into Linux. Was running on a 166Mhz system with1.6GB hard drive.. Win95 had 1G of drivespace, and compressed.. Linux had 600MB of space. Went to mount Windows, couldn't read anything but screwed up ascii symbols, so I figured I pooched something.. removed the mount point to start over.. but failed to 'umount' first.. Away went Win95 in the blink of an eye.. to be reinstalled later that day. Just goes to prove.. Linux CAN remove M$ from a system in one command.. but M$ still can't see/read/'mess with' Linux :-) MBR aside of course.

Good news.. looks like I will FINALLY be able to make a meeting. Work schedule has changed a 'bit' and I now have weekends off.. weekdays too for that matter.. I left my position at my former employer due to a conflict of interests. So, anyone have any decent job leads in the southern tier?? :-)

See ya at the meeting,
Chaz�

At 03:00 PM 5/8/02 -0400, you wrote:

A couple of nights ago I was playing with my Linux From Scratch (LFS) build. I'm building a boot disk for installing LFS on other systems. With the boot disk's root file system incubating deep within my /home directory, my work commenced. While residing in /home/<blahblahblah>/installdisk I discovered BusyBox (http://www.busybox.net); a nifty utility which allowed me to purge the boot disk's lib directory. Excited about finally fitting the kernel and root fs on one disk, I began to type. As root, from the /home/<blahblahblah>/installdisk, I typed rm -rf /lib/*. Oops... I meant to type rm -rf lib/*. Unfortunately, I didn't hit control-c fast enough. The /lib casualties were immense. Everything stopped working. Couldn't ls, cd, su, or cp. Couldn't even shutdown with ctrl+alt+del; I had to power off.

Following a colorful commentary on the preceeding action and resultant situation, I found peace. This is Linux, not Windows! I don't need to re-install and sacrifice all my tweaks and mods. Armed with my trusty Slackware 8.0 install CD, I started system CPR. From the install CD, I mounted the root partition, copied the glibc package to the root partition, installed the package, unmounted the root partition, removed the CD and rebooted. My system's pulse strengthened. I repeated the process twice, re-installing the glibc++ and e2fs packages. Upon the final reboot, login welcomed me with open arms and a login prompt. X loaded succesfully, NVidia logo and all. My applications ran with the same vigor as before my surprise attack. Then a lone, white dove soared across my screen...

... Ok, maybe a dove didn't fly across my screen. But my system came up beautifully, as though I had never wiped out the core libraries that 99% of the system relies on. Just imagine if I did this to c:\winnt\system32. The moral is that it's OK to suffer from Windows-panic-itis when you make a mistake as root. Just make sure you take a deep breath and remember you're in Linux land now. For that which cripples Windows only stings Linux. Just ensure a boot disk and the original install media is always close at hand.

Robert Romito.

From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Thu May 9 13:31:37 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Topic for next meeting In-Reply-To: <1020959524.2226.7.camel@Office> References: <1020959524.2226.7.camel@Office> Message-ID: <1020965497.5824.11.camel@polo> I know the next meeting is the 19th, what time? The new redhat 7.3 release is also out, I can burn some disks and bring them on that Sunday if anyone is interested, there were some people who asked about getting them. Its a few weeks away and there may be no point everyone may have it by then, just an idea. On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 11:52, Cyber Source wrote: > Hello All, > Don't know if we have a topic for the next meeting but as I was > talking with Bob Meyer last night on the phone, he suggested that I do a > demonstration of a Mandrake 8.2 install and further to show how to > install a software modem (as this has been a hot subject on here) Any > thoughts? > p.s. It would be great if we could get that digital projector back again > as well if we are to do this one. > > -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu May 9 14:06:31 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Topic for next meeting In-Reply-To: <1020959524.2226.7.camel@Office> Message-ID: <20020509180631.76561.qmail@web13308.mail.yahoo.com> I was thinking about it from the point of view of setting up a system for a non-linux experienced user. Peter has worked out a process that gets a casual Windows user to be able to function in Linux for many of the typical tasks that would cause concern with viruses such as reading Email and browsing the Web. He also gets Windmodems working first time, every time. I think that our users would benefit from his experience in subversive, guerilla advocacy by providing the tools that users need in a format that is easy for them to deal with. Remember, that we also have to convince Mom and Pop to stop feeding at the trough of M$ and the only way to do that is to make it easier for them to read Email, browse the Web, write letters and handle multimedia such as scanners and sound. Cheers! Bob --- Cyber Source wrote: > Hello All, > Don't know if we have a topic for the next meeting but as I was > talking with Bob Meyer last night on the phone, he suggested that I do a > demonstration of a Mandrake 8.2 install and further to show how to > install a software modem (as this has been a hot subject on here) Any > thoughts? > p.s. It would be great if we could get that digital projector back again > as well if we are to do this one. > > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com From robromito at adelphia.net Thu May 9 15:33:39 2002 From: robromito at adelphia.net (Robert Romito) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine Message-ID: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, 1:00pm at Computer SOS)! BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... Robert Romito. From robromito at adelphia.net Thu May 9 15:36:07 2002 From: robromito at adelphia.net (Robert Romito) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: LCARS Mozilla Message-ID: <3CDACFA7.6090406@adelphia.net> Anyone who has downloaded Mozilla RC1 should check out the LCARStrek theme (View => Apply Theme => Get New Theme). It's pretty cool, even if you're not a star trek fan. ;-) From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Thu May 9 15:49:15 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> References: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1020973755.6417.54.camel@polo> What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux article, or just saying who we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on the mailing list for a whopping 4 days now) :) On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito wrote: > If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo > Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, > 1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > > BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about > submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... > > Robert Romito. -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From shipdadip at adelphia.net Thu May 9 15:56:39 2002 From: shipdadip at adelphia.net (shipdadip) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> Message-ID: I'm in South Buffalo near Lackawanna anyone know where I can get one? -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Robert Romito Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 3:34 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, 1:00pm at Computer SOS)! BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... Robert Romito. From robromito at adelphia.net Thu May 9 17:03:33 2002 From: robromito at adelphia.net (Robert Romito) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: Message-ID: <3CDAE425.5030208@adelphia.net> Their website (http://www.buffalointernet.com) pretty much has the entire edition on line. It also has a list of all the distributors. Wilson Farms carries them if one is close. shipdadip wrote: >I'm in South Buffalo near Lackawanna anyone know where I can get one? > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of >Robert Romito >Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 3:34 PM >To: nflug@nflug.org >Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > > >If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo >Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It >even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, >1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > >BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about >submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... > >Robert Romito. > > > > From robromito at adelphia.net Thu May 9 17:12:14 2002 From: robromito at adelphia.net (Robert Romito) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> <1020973755.6417.54.camel@polo> Message-ID: <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro or an intro to Mandrake (or Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone has. It might be fun, and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG take on a small project. Justin Bennett wrote: >What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux article, or just saying who >we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on the mailing list for a >whopping 4 days now) :) > > >On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito wrote: > > >>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo >>Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It >>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, >>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! >> >>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about >>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... >> >>Robert Romito. >> >> From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Fri May 10 07:14:58 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> References: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> <1020973755.6417.54.camel@polo> <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <200205101114.g4ABEw821955@jb.freyhouse.com> Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe explaining what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a NFLUG plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. As long as I get some support on the Proof reading side. You can probably tell from some of my emails, english isn't my strong suite... :) Justin On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: > Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro or an intro to Mandrake (or > Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone has. It might be fun, > and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG take on a small project. > > Justin Bennett wrote: > >What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux article, or just saying who > >we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on the mailing list for a > >whopping 4 days now) :) > > > >On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito wrote: > >>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo > >>Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > >>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, > >>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > >> > >>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about > >>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... > >> > >>Robert Romito. From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 10 09:25:06 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> <1020973755.6417.54.camel@polo> <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> <200205101114.g4ABEw821955@jb.freyhouse.com> Message-ID: <000801c1f826$1a57ec60$f43afea9@celeronbox> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Bennett" To: Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:14 AM Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe explaining > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a NFLUG > plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. As long as I get some support > on the Proof reading side. You can probably tell from some of my emails, > english isn't my strong suite... :) <------------------------------snip-------------------------------------> Well thats how one polishes ones writing skills. I say fo for it and we'll help you along the way. May I suggest this web site for pointers on writing: http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html Strunk, William, Jr. 1918. The Elements of Style. This should help you, I know it helped me. So good luck! Ron > > Justin > > On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: > > Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro or an intro to Mandrake (or > > Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone has. It might be fun, > > and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG take on a small project. > > > > Justin Bennett wrote: > > >What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux article, or just saying who > > >we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on the mailing list for a > > >whopping 4 days now) :) > > > > > >On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito wrote: > > >>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo > > >>Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > > >>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, > > >>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > > >> > > >>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about > > >>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... > > >> > > >>Robert Romito. > From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 10 09:31:19 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> <1020973755.6417.54.camel@polo> <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> <200205101114.g4ABEw821955@jb.freyhouse.com> <000801c1f826$1a57ec60$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <003001c1f826$f824ede0$f43afea9@celeronbox> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronald Maggio" To: Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 9:25 AM Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Bennett" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:14 AM > Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > > > > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe explaining > > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a > NFLUG > > plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. As long as I get some > support > > on the Proof reading side. You can probably tell from some of my emails, > > english isn't my strong suite... :) > <------------------------------snip-------------------------------------> > Well thats how one polishes ones writing skills. I say for it and we'll > help you along the way. > May I suggest this web site for pointers on writing: > http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html > Strunk, William, Jr. 1918. The Elements of Style. This should help you, I > know it helped me. > So good luck! > > Ron > > > > > Justin > > > > On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: > > > Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro or an intro to Mandrake (or > > > Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone has. It might be fun, > > > and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG take on a small project. > > > > > > Justin Bennett wrote: > > > >What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux article, or just saying who > > > >we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on the mailing list for a > > > >whopping 4 days now) :) > > > > > > > >On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito wrote: > > > >>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo > > > >>Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > > > >>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, > > > >>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > > > >> > > > >>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about > > > >>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... > > > >> > > > >>Robert Romito. > > > > From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Fri May 10 09:43:51 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <000801c1f826$1a57ec60$f43afea9@celeronbox> References: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> <1020973755.6417.54.camel@polo> <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> <200205101114.g4ABEw821955@jb.freyhouse.com> <000801c1f826$1a57ec60$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <1021038231.9756.1.camel@polo> Ok sounds like a plan, is this a weekly publication, I'll start this weekend, and I'll post what I come up with here, to be scrutinized by all of you... :) On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 09:25, Ronald Maggio wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Bennett" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:14 AM > Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > > > > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe explaining > > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a > NFLUG > > plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. As long as I get some > support > > on the Proof reading side. You can probably tell from some of my emails, > > english isn't my strong suite... :) > <------------------------------snip-------------------------------------> > Well thats how one polishes ones writing skills. I say fo for it and we'll > help you along the way. > May I suggest this web site for pointers on writing: > http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html > Strunk, William, Jr. 1918. The Elements of Style. This should help you, I > know it helped me. > So good luck! > > Ron > > > > > Justin > > > > On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: > > > Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro or an intro to Mandrake (or > > > Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone has. It might be fun, > > > and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG take on a small project. > > > > > > Justin Bennett wrote: > > > >What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux article, or just saying who > > > >we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on the mailing list for a > > > >whopping 4 days now) :) > > > > > > > >On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito wrote: > > > >>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo > > > >>Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > > > >>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, > > > >>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > > > >> > > > >>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about > > > >>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... > > > >> > > > >>Robert Romito. > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 10 09:45:10 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> <1020973755.6417.54.camel@polo> <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> <200205101114.g4ABEw821955@jb.freyhouse.com> <000801c1f826$1a57ec60$f43afea9@celeronbox> <003001c1f826$f824ede0$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <00b301c1f828$e7d598c0$f43afea9@celeronbox> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ronald Maggio" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 9:25 AM > Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Justin Bennett" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:14 AM > > Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > > > > > > > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe > explaining > > > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a > > NFLUG > > > plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. As long as I get some > > support > > > on the Proof reading side. You can probably tell from some of my emails, > > > english isn't my strong suite... :) > > <------------------------------snip-------------------------------------> > > Well thats how one polishes ones writing skills. I say go for it and we'll > > help you along the way. > > May I suggest this web site for pointers on writing: > > http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html > > Strunk, William, Jr. 1918. The Elements of Style. This should help you, I > > know it helped me. > > So good luck! > > > > Ron > > (sorry for all the repeated messages due to typos, hurt my hand and its affecting my typing) Ron:) > > > > > > Justin > > > > > > On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: > > > > Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro or an intro to Mandrake > (or > > > > Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone has. It might be fun, > > > > and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG take on a small project. > > > > > > > > Justin Bennett wrote: > > > > >What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux article, or just saying > who > > > > >we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on the mailing list for a > > > > >whopping 4 days now) :) > > > > > > > > > >On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito wrote: > > > > >>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo > > > > >>Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > > > > >>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May > 19th, > > > > >>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > > > > >> > > > > >>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about > > > > >>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... > > > > >> > > > > >>Robert Romito. > > > > > > > > > From robromito at adelphia.net Fri May 10 10:11:19 2002 From: robromito at adelphia.net (Robert Romito) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> <1020973755.6417.54.camel@polo> <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> <200205101114.g4ABEw821955@jb.freyhouse.com> <000801c1f826$1a57ec60$f43afea9@celeronbox> <1021038231.9756.1.camel@polo> Message-ID: <3CDBD507.30204@adelphia.net> It's a monthly publication. And I haven't contacted them yet. I don't know if they're even open to the idea. Just wanted to see what people on the list thought of the idea. So I wouldn't spend an entire weekend writing an article just yet. I was thinking we could talk about this at our May meeting and bounce around a few ideas before submitting anything. Once we agree on an idea, I'll contact the editor and see what she thinks. Since we've got a multi-distribution mix, perhaps we could have different people write different reviews / intros to their favorite distribution. Then it would truely be a group excercise (I'm presuming that other members want to contribute). Doesn't have to be elaborate or fancy. Perhaps a paragraph on Mandrake, Slackware, and RedHat. Throw in an intro and summary and you've got an article that didn't take too much of one person's time. I know that many of us are very busy with other things, including myself. Don't want to take on a project that would be too much work! ;-) Any other ideas? Robert Romito. Justin Bennett wrote: >Ok sounds like a plan, is this a weekly publication, I'll start this >weekend, and I'll post what I come up with here, to be scrutinized by >all of you... :) > > >On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 09:25, Ronald Maggio wrote: > > >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Justin Bennett" >>To: >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:14 AM >>Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine >> >> >> >> >>>Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe explaining >>>what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a >>> >>> >>NFLUG >> >> >>>plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. As long as I get some >>> >>> >>support >> >> >>>on the Proof reading side. You can probably tell from some of my emails, >>>english isn't my strong suite... :) >>> >>> >><------------------------------snip-------------------------------------> >>Well thats how one polishes ones writing skills. I say fo for it and we'll >>help you along the way. >>May I suggest this web site for pointers on writing: >>http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html >>Strunk, William, Jr. 1918. The Elements of Style. This should help you, I >>know it helped me. >>So good luck! >> >>Ron >> >> >> >>>Justin >>> >>>On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro or an intro to Mandrake (or >>>>Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone has. It might be fun, >>>>and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG take on a small project. >>>> >>>>Justin Bennett wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux article, or just saying who >>>>>we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on the mailing list for a >>>>>whopping 4 days now) :) >>>>> >>>>>On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo >>>>>>Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It >>>>>>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, >>>>>>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! >>>>>> >>>>>>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about >>>>>>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... >>>>>> >>>>>>Robert Romito. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>-- >>This message has been scanned for viruses and >>dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>believed to be clean. >> >> From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Fri May 10 10:17:55 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <3CDBD507.30204@adelphia.net> References: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> <1020973755.6417.54.camel@polo> <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> <20020510111 4.g4ABEw821955@jb.freyhouse.com> <000801c1f826$1a57ec60$f43afea9@celeronbox> <1021038231.9756.1.camel@polo> <3CDBD507.30204@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1021040275.1627.1.camel@polo> Ok sounds, good ... On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 10:11, Robert Romito wrote: > It's a monthly publication. And I haven't contacted them yet. I don't > know if they're even open to the idea. Just wanted to see what people > on the list thought of the idea. So I wouldn't spend an entire weekend > writing an article just yet. I was thinking we could talk about this > at our May meeting and bounce around a few ideas before submitting > anything. Once we agree on an idea, I'll contact the editor and see > what she thinks. > > Since we've got a multi-distribution mix, perhaps we could have > different people write different reviews / intros to their favorite > distribution. Then it would truely be a group excercise (I'm presuming > that other members want to contribute). Doesn't have to be elaborate or > fancy. Perhaps a paragraph on Mandrake, Slackware, and RedHat. Throw > in an intro and summary and you've got an article that didn't take too > much of one person's time. I know that many of us are very busy with > other things, including myself. Don't want to take on a project that > would be too much work! ;-) > > Any other ideas? > > Robert Romito. > > Justin Bennett wrote: > > >Ok sounds like a plan, is this a weekly publication, I'll start this > >weekend, and I'll post what I come up with here, to be scrutinized by > >all of you... :) > > > > > >On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 09:25, Ronald Maggio wrote: > > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Justin Bennett" > >>To: > >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:14 AM > >>Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe explaining > >>>what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a > >>> > >>> > >>NFLUG > >> > >> > >>>plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. As long as I get some > >>> > >>> > >>support > >> > >> > >>>on the Proof reading side. You can probably tell from some of my emails, > >>>english isn't my strong suite... :) > >>> > >>> > >><------------------------------snip-------------------------------------> > >>Well thats how one polishes ones writing skills. I say fo for it and we'll > >>help you along the way. > >>May I suggest this web site for pointers on writing: > >>http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html > >>Strunk, William, Jr. 1918. The Elements of Style. This should help you, I > >>know it helped me. > >>So good luck! > >> > >>Ron > >> > >> > >> > >>>Justin > >>> > >>>On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro or an intro to Mandrake (or > >>>>Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone has. It might be fun, > >>>>and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG take on a small project. > >>>> > >>>>Justin Bennett wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux article, or just saying who > >>>>>we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on the mailing list for a > >>>>>whopping 4 days now) :) > >>>>> > >>>>>On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo > >>>>>>Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > >>>>>>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, > >>>>>>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > >>>>>> > >>>>>>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about > >>>>>>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Robert Romito. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>-- > >>This message has been scanned for viruses and > >>dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > >>believed to be clean. > >> > >> > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From clay_berlo at yahoo.com Fri May 10 10:48:15 2002 From: clay_berlo at yahoo.com (Clay Berlo) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <1021040275.1627.1.camel@polo> Message-ID: <20020510144815.38301.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Anyone interested in a Debian review? --- Justin Bennett wrote: > Ok sounds, good ... > > On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 10:11, Robert Romito wrote: > > It's a monthly publication. And I haven't > contacted them yet. I don't > > know if they're even open to the idea. Just > wanted to see what people > > on the list thought of the idea. So I wouldn't > spend an entire weekend > > writing an article just yet. I was thinking we > could talk about this > > at our May meeting and bounce around a few ideas > before submitting > > anything. Once we agree on an idea, I'll contact > the editor and see > > what she thinks. > > > > Since we've got a multi-distribution mix, perhaps > we could have > > different people write different reviews / intros > to their favorite > > distribution. Then it would truely be a group > excercise (I'm presuming > > that other members want to contribute). Doesn't > have to be elaborate or > > fancy. Perhaps a paragraph on Mandrake, > Slackware, and RedHat. Throw > > in an intro and summary and you've got an article > that didn't take too > > much of one person's time. I know that many of us > are very busy with > > other things, including myself. Don't want to > take on a project that > > would be too much work! ;-) > > > > Any other ideas? > > > > Robert Romito. > > > > Justin Bennett wrote: > > > > >Ok sounds like a plan, is this a weekly > publication, I'll start this > > >weekend, and I'll post what I come up with here, > to be scrutinized by > > >all of you... :) > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 09:25, Ronald Maggio wrote: > > > > > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: "Justin Bennett" > > > >>To: > > >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:14 AM > > >>Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer > Magazine > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is > Linux" Article, maybe explaining > > >>>what linux is, as well as opensource and it's > advantages. Then throw a > > >>> > > >>> > > >>NFLUG > > >> > > >> > > >>>plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. > As long as I get some > > >>> > > >>> > > >>support > > >> > > >> > > >>>on the Proof reading side. You can probably > tell from some of my emails, > > >>>english isn't my strong suite... :) > > >>> > > >>> > > > >><------------------------------snip-------------------------------------> > > >>Well thats how one polishes ones writing skills. > I say fo for it and we'll > > >>help you along the way. > > >>May I suggest this web site for pointers on > writing: > > >>http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html > > >>Strunk, William, Jr. 1918. The Elements of > Style. This should help you, I > > >>know it helped me. > > >>So good luck! > > >> > > >>Ron > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>Justin > > >>> > > >>>On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro > or an intro to Mandrake (or > > >>>>Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone > has. It might be fun, > > >>>>and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG > take on a small project. > > >>>> > > >>>>Justin Bennett wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux > article, or just saying who > > >>>>>we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on > the mailing list for a > > >>>>>whopping 4 days now) :) > > >>>>> > > >>>>>On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito > wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the > May edition of Buffalo > > >>>>>>Internet and Computer Magazine > (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > > >>>>>>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting > time and place - May 19th, > > >>>>>>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does > the group think about > > >>>>>>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? > Might be a fun project... > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>Robert Romito. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>-- > > >>This message has been scanned for viruses and > > >>dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > >>believed to be clean. > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > -- > ------------------------------------------- > Justin Bennett > Red Hat Certified Engineer > Network Administrator > Dynabrade Inc. > 8989 Sheridan Dr > Clarence, NY 14031 > 716-631-0100 ext 215 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Fri May 10 15:02:27 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <20020510144815.38301.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020510144815.38301.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1021057347.3117.11.camel@polo> Sure, maybe we should give some background, what linux/opensource is and then compare some distributions, or give a review of several diffrent dists, to give a kind of ideas of their strengths. I haven't installed anything but redhat, (mandrake and caldera once) but from what I gather, correct me if I'm wrong, slackware and maybe debian? are more for the experienced users, more complicated installs?? If the idea of this article is to intise people into giving linux a shot maybe we should give some ideas as to which distribution is better for whowm. Begginers may want to install Mandrake, maybe even redhat? Wouldn't want them to get frustrated doing a text install (like freebsd) that frustrates them. This would involve many of us commenting on our favorite distribution. Justin On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 10:48, Clay Berlo wrote: > Anyone interested in a Debian review? > > --- Justin Bennett > wrote: > > Ok sounds, good ... > > > > On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 10:11, Robert Romito wrote: > > > It's a monthly publication. And I haven't > > contacted them yet. I don't > > > know if they're even open to the idea. Just > > wanted to see what people > > > on the list thought of the idea. So I wouldn't > > spend an entire weekend > > > writing an article just yet. I was thinking we > > could talk about this > > > at our May meeting and bounce around a few ideas > > before submitting > > > anything. Once we agree on an idea, I'll contact > > the editor and see > > > what she thinks. > > > > > > Since we've got a multi-distribution mix, perhaps > > we could have > > > different people write different reviews / intros > > to their favorite > > > distribution. Then it would truely be a group > > excercise (I'm presuming > > > that other members want to contribute). Doesn't > > have to be elaborate or > > > fancy. Perhaps a paragraph on Mandrake, > > Slackware, and RedHat. Throw > > > in an intro and summary and you've got an article > > that didn't take too > > > much of one person's time. I know that many of us > > are very busy with > > > other things, including myself. Don't want to > > take on a project that > > > would be too much work! ;-) > > > > > > Any other ideas? > > > > > > Robert Romito. > > > > > > Justin Bennett wrote: > > > > > > >Ok sounds like a plan, is this a weekly > > publication, I'll start this > > > >weekend, and I'll post what I come up with here, > > to be scrutinized by > > > >all of you... :) > > > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 09:25, Ronald Maggio wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > > >>From: "Justin Bennett" > > > > > >>To: > > > >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:14 AM > > > >>Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer > > Magazine > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is > > Linux" Article, maybe explaining > > > >>>what linux is, as well as opensource and it's > > advantages. Then throw a > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>NFLUG > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. > > As long as I get some > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>support > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>on the Proof reading side. You can probably > > tell from some of my emails, > > > >>>english isn't my strong suite... :) > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > >><------------------------------snip-------------------------------------> > > > >>Well thats how one polishes ones writing skills. > > I say fo for it and we'll > > > >>help you along the way. > > > >>May I suggest this web site for pointers on > > writing: > > > >>http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html > > > >>Strunk, William, Jr. 1918. The Elements of > > Style. This should help you, I > > > >>know it helped me. > > > >>So good luck! > > > >> > > > >>Ron > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>Justin > > > >>> > > > >>>On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro > > or an intro to Mandrake (or > > > >>>>Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone > > has. It might be fun, > > > >>>>and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG > > take on a small project. > > > >>>> > > > >>>>Justin Bennett wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>>What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux > > article, or just saying who > > > >>>>>we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on > > the mailing list for a > > > >>>>>whopping 4 days now) :) > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito > > wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the > > May edition of Buffalo > > > >>>>>>Internet and Computer Magazine > > (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > > > >>>>>>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting > > time and place - May 19th, > > > >>>>>>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does > > the group think about > > > >>>>>>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? > > Might be a fun project... > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>Robert Romito. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>-- > > > >>This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > >>dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > >>believed to be clean. > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > believed to be clean. > > -- > > ------------------------------------------- > > Justin Bennett > > Red Hat Certified Engineer > > Network Administrator > > Dynabrade Inc. > > 8989 Sheridan Dr > > Clarence, NY 14031 > > 716-631-0100 ext 215 > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 10 17:53:23 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: <20020510144815.38301.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> <1021057347.3117.11.camel@polo> Message-ID: <000b01c1f86d$1c4cbf40$f43afea9@celeronbox> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Bennett" To: Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:02 PM Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > Sure, maybe we should give some background, what linux/opensource is and > then compare some distributions, or give a review of several diffrent > dists, to give a kind of ideas of their strengths. I haven't installed > anything but redhat, (mandrake and caldera once) but from what I gather, > correct me if I'm wrong, slackware and maybe debian? are more for the > experienced users, more complicated installs?? If the idea of this > article is to intise people into giving linux a shot maybe we should > give some ideas as to which distribution is better for whowm. Begginers > may want to install Mandrake, maybe even redhat? Wouldn't want them to > get frustrated doing a text install (like freebsd) that frustrates them. > This would involve many of us commenting on our favorite distribution. > > > > Justin > <-------------------------------------------snip---------------------------- ---------------> Well the idea is getting a little over whelming for a introduction to what Linux/Opensource is all about and what part we (NFLUG) locally as a Linux users group particpate in the Linux/Opensource computer world. I think you should find out to what the publication is looking for in an article, and would they be interested in a single story or a series dealing with the topic ending with how Linux has influenced you the writer and the users group you belong to. Also include what the local seen is like here in Buffalo. An example how are companies exploring this alternative to Microsoft products, and to what extent they see their future computing needs fulfilled. In other world my best advice is keep it short and sweet. People get board reading war and peace. Ron:) > On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 10:48, Clay Berlo wrote: > > Anyone interested in a Debian review? > > > > --- Justin Bennett > > wrote: > > > Ok sounds, good ... > > > > > > On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 10:11, Robert Romito wrote: > > > > It's a monthly publication. And I haven't > > > contacted them yet. I don't > > > > know if they're even open to the idea. Just > > > wanted to see what people > > > > on the list thought of the idea. So I wouldn't > > > spend an entire weekend > > > > writing an article just yet. I was thinking we > > > could talk about this > > > > at our May meeting and bounce around a few ideas > > > before submitting > > > > anything. Once we agree on an idea, I'll contact > > > the editor and see > > > > what she thinks. > > > > > > > > Since we've got a multi-distribution mix, perhaps > > > we could have > > > > different people write different reviews / intros > > > to their favorite > > > > distribution. Then it would truely be a group > > > excercise (I'm presuming > > > > that other members want to contribute). Doesn't > > > have to be elaborate or > > > > fancy. Perhaps a paragraph on Mandrake, > > > Slackware, and RedHat. Throw > > > > in an intro and summary and you've got an article > > > that didn't take too > > > > much of one person's time. I know that many of us > > > are very busy with > > > > other things, including myself. Don't want to > > > take on a project that > > > > would be too much work! ;-) > > > > > > > > Any other ideas? > > > > > > > > Robert Romito. > > > > > > > > Justin Bennett wrote: > > > > > > > > >Ok sounds like a plan, is this a weekly > > > publication, I'll start this > > > > >weekend, and I'll post what I come up with here, > > > to be scrutinized by > > > > >all of you... :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 09:25, Ronald Maggio wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > > > >>From: "Justin Bennett" > > > > > > > >>To: > > > > >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:14 AM > > > > >>Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer > > > Magazine > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is > > > Linux" Article, maybe explaining > > > > >>>what linux is, as well as opensource and it's > > > advantages. Then throw a > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>NFLUG > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. > > > As long as I get some > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>support > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>on the Proof reading side. You can probably > > > tell from some of my emails, > > > > >>>english isn't my strong suite... :) > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >><------------------------------snip-------------------------------------> > > > > >>Well thats how one polishes ones writing skills. > > > I say fo for it and we'll > > > > >>help you along the way. > > > > >>May I suggest this web site for pointers on > > > writing: > > > > >>http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html > > > > >>Strunk, William, Jr. 1918. The Elements of > > > Style. This should help you, I > > > > >>know it helped me. > > > > >>So good luck! > > > > >> > > > > >>Ron > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>Justin > > > > >>> > > > > >>>On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro > > > or an intro to Mandrake (or > > > > >>>>Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone > > > has. It might be fun, > > > > >>>>and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG > > > take on a small project. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>Justin Bennett wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux > > > article, or just saying who > > > > >>>>>we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on > > > the mailing list for a > > > > >>>>>whopping 4 days now) :) > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito > > > wrote: > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the > > > May edition of Buffalo > > > > >>>>>>Internet and Computer Magazine > > > (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > > > > >>>>>>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting > > > time and place - May 19th, > > > > >>>>>>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does > > > the group think about > > > > >>>>>>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? > > > Might be a fun project... > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>Robert Romito. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>-- > > > > >>This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > >>dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > > >>believed to be clean. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > > believed to be clean. > > > -- > > > ------------------------------------------- > > > Justin Bennett > > > Red Hat Certified Engineer > > > Network Administrator > > > Dynabrade Inc. > > > 8989 Sheridan Dr > > > Clarence, NY 14031 > > > 716-631-0100 ext 215 > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > -- > ------------------------------------------- > Justin Bennett > Red Hat Certified Engineer > Network Administrator > Dynabrade Inc. > 8989 Sheridan Dr > Clarence, NY 14031 > 716-631-0100 ext 215 > From josephj at main.nc.us Sun May 12 15:54:44 2002 From: josephj at main.nc.us (Joe) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Email Encryption Message-ID: <002b01c1f9ee$f000c700$0201a8c0@shelelia>

Hi. I know this is a little off topic, but I'd really appreciate some feedback.

I am currently running Windoze 98 on my laptop (no disk space for a dual boot etc.). I would like to encrypt some of my email. I tried pgp, but it seems to be managed by a large corporation and I don't know if I should trust it. Then, I downloaded gpg which I think I can trust, but it runs in a DOS window and I'm not really sure how to use it. The 40 page manual really doesn't address DOS or Windoze at all. Given the awkwardness, I'm not sure I could convince any of my intended recipients to use it.

Have any of you dealt with this or have any ideas (other than scrap Windoze and just use Linux)? Thanks.

Joe

From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Mon May 13 09:42:12 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <000b01c1f86d$1c4cbf40$f43afea9@celeronbox> References: <20020510144815.38301.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> <1021057347.3117.11.camel@polo> <000b01c1f86d$1c4cbf40$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <1021297332.15229.3.camel@polo> Are you guys going to discuss this on sunday? I was planning on attending the meeting, but will be out of town. On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 17:53, Ronald Maggio wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Bennett" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:02 PM > Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > > > > Sure, maybe we should give some background, what linux/opensource is and > > then compare some distributions, or give a review of several diffrent > > dists, to give a kind of ideas of their strengths. I haven't installed > > anything but redhat, (mandrake and caldera once) but from what I gather, > > correct me if I'm wrong, slackware and maybe debian? are more for the > > experienced users, more complicated installs?? If the idea of this > > article is to intise people into giving linux a shot maybe we should > > give some ideas as to which distribution is better for whowm. Begginers > > may want to install Mandrake, maybe even redhat? Wouldn't want them to > > get frustrated doing a text install (like freebsd) that frustrates them. > > This would involve many of us commenting on our favorite distribution. > > > > > > > > Justin > > > <-------------------------------------------snip---------------------------- > ---------------> > Well the idea is getting a little over whelming for a introduction to what > Linux/Opensource > is all about and what part we (NFLUG) locally as a Linux users group > particpate in the > Linux/Opensource computer world. I think you should find out to what the > publication is > looking for in an article, and would they be interested in a single story or > a series dealing > with the topic ending with how Linux has influenced you the writer and the > users group you > belong to. Also include what the local seen is like here in Buffalo. An > example how are companies > exploring this alternative to Microsoft products, and to what extent they > see their future computing > needs fulfilled. In other world my best advice is keep it short and sweet. > People get board reading > war and peace. > > Ron:) > > > On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 10:48, Clay Berlo wrote: > > > Anyone interested in a Debian review? > > > > > > --- Justin Bennett > > > wrote: > > > > Ok sounds, good ... > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 10:11, Robert Romito wrote: > > > > > It's a monthly publication. And I haven't > > > > contacted them yet. I don't > > > > > know if they're even open to the idea. Just > > > > wanted to see what people > > > > > on the list thought of the idea. So I wouldn't > > > > spend an entire weekend > > > > > writing an article just yet. I was thinking we > > > > could talk about this > > > > > at our May meeting and bounce around a few ideas > > > > before submitting > > > > > anything. Once we agree on an idea, I'll contact > > > > the editor and see > > > > > what she thinks. > > > > > > > > > > Since we've got a multi-distribution mix, perhaps > > > > we could have > > > > > different people write different reviews / intros > > > > to their favorite > > > > > distribution. Then it would truely be a group > > > > excercise (I'm presuming > > > > > that other members want to contribute). Doesn't > > > > have to be elaborate or > > > > > fancy. Perhaps a paragraph on Mandrake, > > > > Slackware, and RedHat. Throw > > > > > in an intro and summary and you've got an article > > > > that didn't take too > > > > > much of one person's time. I know that many of us > > > > are very busy with > > > > > other things, including myself. Don't want to > > > > take on a project that > > > > > would be too much work! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Any other ideas? > > > > > > > > > > Robert Romito. > > > > > > > > > > Justin Bennett wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >Ok sounds like a plan, is this a weekly > > > > publication, I'll start this > > > > > >weekend, and I'll post what I come up with here, > > > > to be scrutinized by > > > > > >all of you... :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 09:25, Ronald Maggio wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >>From: "Justin Bennett" > > > > > > > > > >>To: > > > > > >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:14 AM > > > > > >>Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer > > > > Magazine > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>>Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is > > > > Linux" Article, maybe explaining > > > > > >>>what linux is, as well as opensource and it's > > > > advantages. Then throw a > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>NFLUG > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>>plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. > > > > As long as I get some > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>support > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>>on the Proof reading side. You can probably > > > > tell from some of my emails, > > > > > >>>english isn't my strong suite... :) > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >><------------------------------snip-------------------------------------> > > > > > >>Well thats how one polishes ones writing skills. > > > > I say fo for it and we'll > > > > > >>help you along the way. > > > > > >>May I suggest this web site for pointers on > > > > writing: > > > > > >>http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html > > > > > >>Strunk, William, Jr. 1918. The Elements of > > > > Style. This should help you, I > > > > > >>know it helped me. > > > > > >>So good luck! > > > > > >> > > > > > >>Ron > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>>Justin > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>>Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro > > > > or an intro to Mandrake (or > > > > > >>>>Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone > > > > has. It might be fun, > > > > > >>>>and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG > > > > take on a small project. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>Justin Bennett wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>>What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux > > > > article, or just saying who > > > > > >>>>>we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on > > > > the mailing list for a > > > > > >>>>>whopping 4 days now) :) > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>>On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito > > > > wrote: > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the > > > > May edition of Buffalo > > > > > >>>>>>Internet and Computer Magazine > > > > (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > > > > > >>>>>>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting > > > > time and place - May 19th, > > > > > >>>>>>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does > > > > the group think about > > > > > >>>>>>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? > > > > Might be a fun project... > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>Robert Romito. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>-- > > > > > >>This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > > >>dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > > > >>believed to be clean. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > > > believed to be clean. > > > > -- > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > > > Justin Bennett > > > > Red Hat Certified Engineer > > > > Network Administrator > > > > Dynabrade Inc. > > > > 8989 Sheridan Dr > > > > Clarence, NY 14031 > > > > 716-631-0100 ext 215 > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! > > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > > > -- > > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > believed to be clean. > > -- > > ------------------------------------------- > > Justin Bennett > > Red Hat Certified Engineer > > Network Administrator > > Dynabrade Inc. > > 8989 Sheridan Dr > > Clarence, NY 14031 > > 716-631-0100 ext 215 > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Dynabrade using MailScanner, > and is believed to be clean. -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Mon May 13 09:44:58 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Samba 2.2.4 Question Message-ID: <1021297498.15228.7.camel@polo> I don't know how many of you may be running samba in a production environment. I have this on a redhat list and maybe asking in on a samba list shortly. Just figured one of you may have experienced a similar problem... Here Goes (What I posted to Redhat 7.3 List): Ok, This is a samba issue, and may get better results from a samba list but I'm going to try here first. I installed the new samba 2.2.4 from RPM on (Redhat) 7.3. My homes are automounted to /home from NIS/Automounter/NFS trio. Then the users homes are setup like /home/jbennett when the actual directory may be /export/home/jbennett, or actually on another machine. It works fine when you startup samba. However if I make a change to smb.conf (it updates every minute or so) like to add a share or printer, I am also playing with domain logins (Am using Solaris PCNetlink), after I write any changes to the file any new attempts to mount a home (mostly when NT clients need to be rebooted) the home will not map. I get an NT_BAD_NETWORK_NAME or something like that (when I try using smbclient).Existing connections to the share however are still working. Just new shares. It's like it gets unbound from NIS. My Samba server is also the NIS server and bound to himself (althouh it was bound to the Solaris PCNetlink box, which until recently was the master, and it did the same). Any one else experience this? Does it do this on 2.2.3a? When I restart samba it works again. Don't really want to do that during the day so, in order to get around it I needed to create a share definition for every home that needed to be remapped, without restarting samba. [jbennett] writable = yes valid users = jbennett browseable = no path = /home/jbennett create mode = 0664 directory mode = 0775 Thanks, Justin -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From hpirson at buffalo.veridian.com Mon May 13 11:51:52 2002 From: hpirson at buffalo.veridian.com (Bert Pirson) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Email Encryption References: <002b01c1f9ee$f000c700$0201a8c0@shelelia> Message-ID: <035301c1fa96$19bcb340$14366489@buffalo.veridian.com>

You could try Coolfish at http://www.compsci.co.uk/fish/

This is based on Blowfish encryption. Other programs that use this encryption are listed at http://www.counterpane.com/products.html.

I have tried Coolfish and it seems to work. I don't really use it. I have use the Blowfish encryption in one of my programs and it works very well.

Bert

----- Original Message -----

From: Joe

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 3:54 PM

Subject: Email Encryption

Hi. I know this is a little off topic, but I'd really appreciate some feedback.

I am currently running Windoze 98 on my laptop (no disk space for a dual boot etc.). I would like to encrypt some of my email. I tried pgp, but it seems to be managed by a large corporation and I don't know if I should trust it. Then, I downloaded gpg which I think I can trust, but it runs in a DOS window and I'm not really sure how to use it. The 40 page manual really doesn't address DOS or Windoze at all. Given the awkwardness, I'm not sure I could convince any of my intended recipients to use it.

Have any of you dealt with this or have any ideas (other than scrap Windoze and just use Linux)? Thanks.

Joe

From vlokstone at yahoo.com Mon May 13 12:41:49 2002 From: vlokstone at yahoo.com (vlok stone) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Email Encryption In-Reply-To: <002b01c1f9ee$f000c700$0201a8c0@shelelia> Message-ID: <20020513164150.42543.qmail@web10407.mail.yahoo.com> try here https://www.hushmail.com/ --- Joe wrote: > Hi. I know this is a little off topic, but I'd > really appreciate some feedback. > > I am currently running Windoze 98 on my laptop (no > disk space for a dual boot etc.). I would like to > encrypt some of my email. I tried pgp, but it seems > to be managed by a large corporation and I don't > know if I should trust it. Then, I downloaded gpg > which I think I can trust, but it runs in a DOS > window and I'm not really sure how to use it. The > 40 page manual really doesn't address DOS or Windoze > at all. Given the awkwardness, I'm not sure I could > convince any of my intended recipients to use it. > > Have any of you dealt with this or have any ideas > (other than scrap Windoze and just use Linux)? > Thanks. > > Joe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Mon May 13 13:21:23 2002 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Email Encryption References: <002b01c1f9ee$f000c700$0201a8c0@shelelia> Message-ID: <3CDFF613.5030904@phor.com> since your running on windows i would recommend using pgp. it's the most widely used method for encrypting messages, depending on the email client your using there are plugins to encrypt on the fly. i first used pgp with eudora about 5 years ago and was very happy. once gpg came out i of course switched to gpg. gpg has plugins for a ton of apps, check out the frontends at gnupg.org. current users of pgp might be concerned that there current public/private keys will be garbage. this is not the case. the process to convert your pgp key's to gpg key's is documented. good luck. -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org mQGiBDe4VlERBADTclFMQkLap/JdLVRFBn8Jtl/eFsgvJwrhGRgIKRd1xKXbjD3r IOXfdU2lUJNGDqyXCnW5h8WuRPxTb+W5EKi88gQDUXhcG+iMCG7EmBl3nFCEt/sL Vd7qz1S1a2WZd81UoxfSvoH7TU76p4apgwL9aWckcOWzGDBDZ9GChEt36QCg//TA ef8l4IrwCyTORPuPidI2nXEEAKKT44U7RPr+ys11rRkXdKPtvurPpNH8LlmIqp8p ZBqa4vbwyzDcGwtljtTJ/IhZ+nmD35ypU0AjikWbtWj2I6etnd7pXd4F9JsaP1JT 68apnecXVNuNqBaegsl2QFpuQrfm0lhHRe5/Igg8O2HYgk539A5NZ1TDXuc7R1Ai e/JgBADCzslVg7gamOMYAcyLhmUT0QCDjMWGwmyBql2ay2e6I29b41dXhcQz0rR2 YNClQfTid+Q8OJnNV02VMDvwC+s4auPn/kc/7CKJ7nL0+7ZLZjx/Duans7kMGdED 6cMlnL90AHv7OUkAEcOMAyS8B0YL4+TD24PurCbMINDXhlxz67QiRGFyaW4gUGVy dXNpY2ggPGRhcmlucGVyQHBob3IuY29tPohLBBARAgALBQI3uFZRBAsDAQIACgkQ IzGM/76atRuL0wCg0YKF6QyPjcnVHFsSz6TRhhlXiUUAoM2SRni/T839dpXSggNz 0Pfm4TwLuQINBDe4VlMQCAD2Qle3CH8IF3KiutapQvMF6PlTETlPtvFuuUs4INoB p1ajFOmPQFXz0AfGy0OplK33TGSGSfgMg71l6RfUodNQ+PVZX9x2Uk89PY3bzpnh V5JZzf24rnRPxfx2vIPFRzBhznzJZv8V+bv9kV7HAarTW56NoKVyOtQa8L9GAFgr 5fSI/VhOSdvNILSd5JEHNmszbDgNRR0PfIizHHxbLY7288kjwEPwpVsYjY67VYy4 XTjTNP18F1dDox0YbN4zISy1Kv884bEpQBgRjXyEpwpy1obEAxnIByl6ypUM2Zaf q9AKUJsCRtMIPWakXUGfnHy9iUsiGSa6q6Jew1XpMgs7AAICCACrdk1vgyq2afey 9E7Na8w/Btd1uPO56XFumMkY25b1NGdJzgZB5VJj6owlgty3wVwWDAVwghBB4KgF 2SWRT5LiByl49v31IrKoAN1zepX5ol+zWPCN4uNeFK5UdEOG9qY+mfOs0NGFhVpg mlfaE+UNoyEjkgZaZj/waZCO67OHlA/POBBbOactEzo7XWBdZs8tRbmGoh3kiae1 jmd2jt6unagTxgKILubYUI/cnGEB3MAtihBwuCwPcVu982uO+epyifhgVA7bNcI9 4PEfpHnv1h8nxz1BrpRif/JnxyAXm2rT7tqF27kRYKJ04/2sPyt69w4gN2sX+fo+ zPGfHKF9iD8DBRg3uFZTIzGM/76atRsRAoMGAJsG7RE1yEzVjYSqbe4NyoXKTY44 0gCfW1kXxL4NWyCL6hiE7CeYNmD6Oqk= =IDbe -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Joe wrote: > Hi. I know this is a little off topic, but I'd really appreciate some > feedback. > > > > I am currently running Windoze 98 on my laptop (no disk space for a dual > boot etc.). I would like to encrypt some of my email. I tried pgp, but > it seems to be managed by a large corporation and I don't know if I > should trust it. Then, I downloaded gpg which I think I can trust, but > it runs in a DOS window and I'm not really sure how to use it. The 40 > page manual really doesn't address DOS or Windoze at all. Given the > awkwardness, I'm not sure I could convince any of my intended recipients > to use it. > > > > Have any of you dealt with this or have any ideas (other than scrap > Windoze and just use Linux)? Thanks. > > > > Joe > -- Darin Perusich Unix Systems Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Tue May 14 08:37:17 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Winmodems Message-ID: <1021379837.19013.8.camel@polo> Ok, I here there's someone on here who gets winmodems working "first time every time" How about some help.. I'm running redhat 7.3. I have never setup anything other than an external USR (I conceded that I'd never get a winmodem to work). I have a Compaq laptop 1800T, PCI Lucent winmodem. I usually have a net connection, but I an traveling this weekend (yeah gonna miss the meeting) and would like to be able to use evolution, rather than have to dial up with M$ W2K... If you could point me in the right direction that would be apreciated. (what kernel modules to load, Steps to take ect.) Thanks Justin -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu May 16 10:52:22 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Is the list broke and have we picked a topic? Message-ID: <20020516145222.74711.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com> Sunday is fast approaching and I was wondering if we've decided on a topic for the meeting. I've chatted with Peter from Cybersource and he's willing to do a demo of how he sets up home users of Mandrake. He manages to get TV cards, Winmodems and a bunch of other stuff working every time. He mentioned that he's doing an average of about 5 new installs of Linux for his customers per week. Cheers! Bob ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From gjn at certainlywood.com Thu May 16 12:06:33 2002 From: gjn at certainlywood.com (Gregory J. Neumann) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Samba 2.2.4 Question In-Reply-To: <1021297498.15228.7.camel@polo> Message-ID: <3CE3A0C9.12746.25B8B7@localhost> Justin, I think the group doesn't have the Samba experience for this one. I'm using 2.0.7 at work, have 2.2.4 built, but not installed. My setup is far less complex, too. The good news is that when I posted questions to the Samba mailing list, the responses were quick and accurate! I know this doesn't help, but you're not being ignored. -Greg > I don't know how many of you may be running samba in a production > environment. I have this on a redhat list and maybe asking in on a samba > list shortly. Just figured one of you may have experienced a similar > problem... > > Here Goes (What I posted to Redhat 7.3 List): > > Ok, This is a samba issue, and may get better results from a samba list > but I'm going to try here first. I installed the new samba 2.2.4 from > RPM on (Redhat) 7.3. My homes are automounted to /home from > NIS/Automounter/NFS > trio. Then the users homes are setup like /home/jbennett when the actual > directory may be /export/home/jbennett, or actually on another machine. > It works fine when you startup samba. However if I make a change to > smb.conf (it updates every minute or so) like to add a share or printer, > I am also playing with domain logins (Am using Solaris PCNetlink), after > I write any changes to the file any new attempts to mount a home (mostly > when NT clients need to be rebooted) the home will not map. I get an > NT_BAD_NETWORK_NAME or something like that (when I try using > smbclient).Existing connections to the share however are still working. > Just new shares. It's like it gets unbound from NIS. My Samba server is > also the NIS server and bound to himself (althouh it was bound to the > Solaris PCNetlink box, which until recently was the master, and it did > the same). Any one else experience this? Does it do this on 2.2.3a? When > I restart samba it works again. Don't really want to do that during the > day so, in order to get around it I needed to create a share definition > for every home that needed to be remapped, without restarting samba. > > [jbennett] > writable = yes > valid users = jbennett > browseable = no > path = /home/jbennett > create mode = 0664 > directory mode = 0775 > > > Thanks, > Justin > > -- > ------------------------------------------- > Justin Bennett > Red Hat Certified Engineer > Network Administrator > Dynabrade Inc. > 8989 Sheridan Dr > Clarence, NY 14031 > 716-631-0100 ext 215 From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Thu May 16 13:23:26 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Samba 2.2.4 Question In-Reply-To: <3CE3A0C9.12746.25B8B7@localhost> References: <3CE3A0C9.12746.25B8B7@localhost> Message-ID: <1021569806.1773.17.camel@polo> OK Thanks Thats my next step, just wondering if anyone had experienced it. I used 2.0.7 for a while, was real stable. I tried 2.2.3 but I was having problems with 2000 clients. 2.2.4 is working really well, other than this, minor issue. Justin On Thu, 2002-05-16 at 12:06, Gregory J. Neumann wrote: > Justin, > > I think the group doesn't have the Samba experience for this one. I'm using > 2.0.7 at work, have 2.2.4 built, but not installed. My setup is far less > complex, too. The good news is that when I posted questions to the Samba mailing > list, the responses were quick and accurate! > > I know this doesn't help, but you're not being ignored. > -Greg > > I don't know how many of you may be running samba in a production > > environment. I have this on a redhat list and maybe asking in on a samba > > list shortly. Just figured one of you may have experienced a similar > > problem... > > > > Here Goes (What I posted to Redhat 7.3 List): > > > > Ok, This is a samba issue, and may get better results from a samba list > > but I'm going to try here first. I installed the new samba 2.2.4 from > > RPM on (Redhat) 7.3. My homes are automounted to /home from > > NIS/Automounter/NFS > > trio. Then the users homes are setup like /home/jbennett when the actual > > directory may be /export/home/jbennett, or actually on another machine. > > It works fine when you startup samba. However if I make a change to > > smb.conf (it updates every minute or so) like to add a share or printer, > > I am also playing with domain logins (Am using Solaris PCNetlink), after > > I write any changes to the file any new attempts to mount a home (mostly > > when NT clients need to be rebooted) the home will not map. I get an > > NT_BAD_NETWORK_NAME or something like that (when I try using > > smbclient).Existing connections to the share however are still working. > > Just new shares. It's like it gets unbound from NIS. My Samba server is > > also the NIS server and bound to himself (althouh it was bound to the > > Solaris PCNetlink box, which until recently was the master, and it did > > the same). Any one else experience this? Does it do this on 2.2.3a? When > > I restart samba it works again. Don't really want to do that during the > > day so, in order to get around it I needed to create a share definition > > for every home that needed to be remapped, without restarting samba. > > > > [jbennett] > > writable = yes > > valid users = jbennett > > browseable = no > > path = /home/jbennett > > create mode = 0664 > > directory mode = 0775 > > > > > > Thanks, > > Justin > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------- > > Justin Bennett > > Red Hat Certified Engineer > > Network Administrator > > Dynabrade Inc. > > 8989 Sheridan Dr > > Clarence, NY 14031 > > 716-631-0100 ext 215 > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Dynabrade using MailScanner, > and is believed to be clean. -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From robromito at adelphia.net Thu May 16 13:55:37 2002 From: robromito at adelphia.net (Robert Romito) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Is the list broke and have we picked a topic? References: <20020516145222.74711.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3CE3F299.2020500@adelphia.net> We could discuss doing something for BICM too. Robert Meyer wrote: >Sunday is fast approaching and I was wondering if we've decided on a topic >for the meeting. I've chatted with Peter from Cybersource and he's willing >to do a demo of how he sets up home users of Mandrake. He manages >to get TV cards, Winmodems and a bunch of other stuff working every >time. He mentioned that he's doing an average of about 5 new installs >of Linux for his customers per week. > >Cheers! > >Bob > >===== >Bob Meyer >Knightwing Communications, Inc. >36 Cayuga Blvd >Depew, NY 14043 >Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 >Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience >http://launch.yahoo.com > > > From green_man at bluefrognet.net Thu May 16 21:37:53 2002 From: green_man at bluefrognet.net (S. Lawton) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Is the list broke and have we picked a topic? In-Reply-To: <20020516145222.74711.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3CE426B1.14384.C14105@localhost> On 16 May 2002, at 7:52, Robert Meyer wrote: > Sunday is fast approaching and I was wondering if we've decided on a topic > for the meeting. I've chatted with Peter from Cybersource and he's willing > to do a demo of how he sets up home users of Mandrake. He manages > to get TV cards, Winmodems and a bunch of other stuff working every > time. He mentioned that he's doing an average of about 5 new installs > of Linux for his customers per week. > > Cheers! Been away for too long so I'm reading my LUG Inbox from the top down, rather than the bottom up as usual. I'd be glad to hear from Peter about installs, software modems, and the "grass roots" spread of Linux. If I can learn enough about Winmodems and compiling drivers into a kernel, I may get this $9 AMR modem card to work, rather than spending $70 for an external modem. The release of Open Office was mentioned in the business news on TV this week. The reporter said it could "do anything you need it to do ", and was an alternative to MicroSoft Office. She then went on to mention the free software movement, and had a big grin on her face the whole time. Business reporters are usually deadpan - I wonder where her sympathies lie :-) Scott Registered Linux User 261118 From green_man at bluefrognet.net Thu May 16 23:36:45 2002 From: green_man at bluefrognet.net (S. Lawton) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <200205101114.g4ABEw821955@jb.freyhouse.com> References: <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <3CE4428D.11068.12E1892@localhost> On 10 May 2002, at 7:14, Justin Bennett wrote: > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe explaining > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a NFLUG > plug at the bottom. [Large Edit] I think that's a good idea. When I was considering a new computer, a friend asked me what OS I was putting in. I had heard of Linux, but had no idea what it really was. I took a virtual tour of Windows XP and knew I definitely did NOT want that. I bounced around 4 or 5 websites investigating Linux, found a link to NFLUG's site, and 2 days later I was at a meeting asking questions. Scott Registered Linux User 261118 From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 17 05:09:36 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> <3CE4428D.11068.12E1892@localhost> Message-ID: <000f01c1fd82$91b94ae0$f43afea9@celeronbox> ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Lawton " To: Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:36 PM Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > > > On 10 May 2002, at 7:14, Justin Bennett wrote: > > > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe explaining > > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a NFLUG > > plug at the bottom. > > [Large Edit] > > I think that's a good idea. > When I was considering a new computer, a friend asked me what > OS I was putting in. I had heard of Linux, but had no idea what it > really was. I took a virtual tour of Windows XP and knew I definitely > did NOT want that. And what's wrong with XP? I'm using it! Had no problems installing it on an old lagacy box. The only problem I had was for it to see the modem and give it drivers. I slipped in a PCI Motorola modem and used win 2000 drivers. Now I can connect up. I liked the looks of XP the first time I saw it at CompUSA. XP is if one really looks at it is Win NT version 5. Take some of 98SE, ME, NT 4.0 Win 2000 and put them all together and you got XP. It's not a bad OS. As stated I'm running it on a legacy box its perking along. After all its the Win NT kernel not the Win 9x kernel. Just my two cents worth! Ron:) > I bounced around 4 or 5 websites investigating Linux, found a link > to NFLUG's site, and 2 days later I was at a meeting asking > questions. > > > Scott > > Registered Linux User 261118 > From Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com Fri May 17 07:59:49 2002 From: Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com (Riga, Anthony) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F3033770656A3@bu2102.searbrown.com> I was installing a version of M$ Project for an engineer here at work and I decided to read the license agreement that M$ forces you into when installing thir software. Did you know that if you dont use the software acording to the license agreement you can take it back for a full refund. That means if you go to the store and buy a computer with Winblows on it and have no intention in using it even though its preinstalled you should have the right to get your money back! They dont give you the choice of operating systems its just assumed that people want to use M$. We as computer consumers should make more of an issue about it and get the word out there, alot of people would be taking back their winblows os for refunds and let them know there are other better alternatives to switch to Linux. From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 17 08:32:00 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <000f01c1fd82$91b94ae0$f43afea9@celeronbox> References: <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> <3CE4428D.11068.12E1892@localhost> <000f01c1fd82$91b94ae0$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <1021638720.3322.11.camel@Office> What's wrong with windows xp?
Number one on my list would have to be the fact that if you change motherboards or certain hard ware that the system will fail. Then on reinstalls, you need to call the mothership to get a new key number for your precious OS that is assigned through a very clever formula. Not my opinion of a good way to protect against piracy. I'm sure the people on the mothership think so though. After all you must want it that way right?
That would be my biggest beef on xp, one of the other beefs would be the same as usual with ms os's, what amounts to very minor changes, mostly gui, then charging an average of $100.
I'm sure the rest of this group could highlight a few beefs as well.
On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 05:09, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "S. Lawton " <green_man@bluefrognet.net>
To: <nflug@nflug.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine

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>
> On 10 May 2002, at 7:14, Justin Bennett wrote:
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> > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe
explaining
> > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a
NFLUG
> > plug at the bottom.
>
> [Large Edit]
>
> I think that's a good idea.
> When I was considering a new computer, a friend asked me what
> OS I was putting in. I had heard of Linux, but had no idea what it
> really was. I took a virtual tour of Windows XP and knew I definitely
> did NOT want that.

And what's wrong with XP? I'm using it! Had no problems installing it on an
old lagacy box. The only problem I had was for it to see the modem and give
it drivers. I slipped in a PCI Motorola modem and used win 2000 drivers. Now
I can connect up. I liked the looks of XP the first time I saw it at
CompUSA. XP is if one really looks at it is Win NT version 5. Take some of
98SE, ME, NT 4.0 Win 2000 and put them all together and you got XP. It's not
a bad OS. As stated I'm running it on a legacy box its perking along. After
all its the Win NT kernel not the Win 9x kernel. Just my two cents worth!
Ron:)

> I bounced around 4 or 5 websites investigating Linux, found a link
> to NFLUG's site, and 2 days later I was at a meeting asking
> questions.
>
>
> Scott
>
> Registered Linux User 261118
>

From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Fri May 17 08:56:37 2002 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: php project mangements software References: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F3033770656A3@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <3CE4FE05.8010806@phor.com> if your interested the systems group, a few others at cognigen are using a php/mysql project management tool called dotproject. if you'd like i can send you over the code to try out. don't get the code from project webpage at sourceforge, it hasn't been updated in over a year. we've made substantial modifications to the code to make it more useable. Riga, Anthony wrote: > I was installing a version of M$ Project for an engineer here at work and I decided to read the license agreement that M$ forces you into when installing thir software. Did you know that if you dont use the software acording to the license agreement you can take it back for a full refund. That means if you go to the store and buy a computer with Winblows on it and have no intention in using it even though its preinstalled you should have the right to get your money back! They dont give you the choice of operating systems its just assumed that people want to use M$. We as computer consumers should make more of an issue about it and get the word out there, alot of people would be taking back their winblows os for refunds and let them know there are other better alternatives to switch to Linux. > > -- Darin Perusich Unix Systems Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Fri May 17 09:16:46 2002 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Who loves XP? In-Reply-To: <000f01c1fd82$91b94ae0$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: > And what's wrong with XP? I'm using it! Had no problems installing it on an I love questions like this :) My view of WinXP: Pros ==== Sheer 32bit kernel. Based off of the Win2000 kernel, but with no support for 16bit code. This makes it highly stable. It has yet to crash on me (BSOD) Nice GUI. A little overkill in some spots, but at least you can disable some of the features. It's the best of the Windows series (not sure if that's a great compliment) Cons ==== Product Activation. Yes it's for Piracy prevention, but passing any data to M$ concerns me.... especially when I use Windows Media player ;) Requires a powerful machine to run. My 300MHz machine will not run WinXP.... just barely runs 2000. This seems to be an ongoing trend with M$. Their next version of Windows requires a hardcore video card since the desktop is going to be 100% DirectX code. When you turn features off in XP, it really doesn't turn the features off. Sticky keys, QoS Packet Scheduler, etc. require dirty hacks to disable instead of the simple "turn this feature off" check box. I still see better gaming performance using Win98 on my 700Mhz box, than on WinXP (multi-boot). Driver availability. Many manufacturers still don't have drivers made for XP, or just point you to use the Win2000 drivers. Thought this is not a M$ con, it is an issue that can make using the OS with new hardware a headache. If you use VNC on XP, you are technically violating the license by using 3rd party Remote Desktop software. ================ Overall, I agree with Ron, XP is a nice OS. But it has it's place. For business purposes, it's nice. But I'd still go with Win98 for gaming, and Linux for servers & security. Dege So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny .... If They Weren't Happening To Me From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 17 10:13:12 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Who loves XP? References: Message-ID: <000701c1fdac$fbb17d80$f43afea9@celeronbox> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Dege" To: Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 9:16 AM Subject: Who loves XP? > > > > And what's wrong with XP? I'm using it! Had no problems installing it on an > > I love questions like this :) My view of WinXP: > > Pros > ==== > > Sheer 32bit kernel. Based off of the Win2000 kernel, but with no support > for 16bit code. This makes it highly stable. It has yet to crash on me > (BSOD) > > Nice GUI. A little overkill in some spots, but at least you can disable > some of the features. > > It's the best of the Windows series (not sure if that's a great > compliment) > > > Cons > ==== > > Product Activation. Yes it's for Piracy prevention, but passing any data > to M$ concerns me.... especially when I use Windows Media player ;) I have not seen any product activation yet happen. Although I will have to admit I'm still installing software on it and am waiting for a newer AT&T cd to install Worldnet on this system. The one I have is not XP compatable. So I now it will do something then! Most likely state file system updates are required. > > Requires a powerful machine to run. My 300MHz machine will not run > WinXP.... just barely runs 2000. This seems to be an ongoing trend with > M$. Their next version of Windows requires a hardcore video card since > the desktop is going to be 100% DirectX code. Well I've got it running on an FIC 503+ Motherboard, AMD K6-2 500Mhz, 256mb ram, 3dfx VooDoo 4500 AGP video card 32mb video ram, Motorola modem 56kbps, PCI nic, Sound Blaster Creative Labs AWE 32 ISA 16 bit sound card, (and I did nothing XP found it and gave it drivers!) ViewSonic A75s 17" monitor. And it perks away nicely:) Smooth clean running:) > > When you turn features off in XP, it really doesn't turn the features off. > Sticky keys, QoS Packet Scheduler, etc. require dirty hacks to disable > instead of the simple "turn this feature off" check box. This I really don't care about. > > I still see better gaming performance using Win98 on my 700Mhz box, than > on WinXP (multi-boot). True, but not every one is into gaming. Later I might dualboot with (a undetermined flavor of Linux) > > Driver availability. Many manufacturers still don't have drivers made for > XP, or just point you to use the Win2000 drivers. Thought this is not a > M$ con, it is an issue that can make using the OS with new hardware a > headache. True, but thats not something new in the computer world! > > If you use VNC on XP, you are technically violating the license by using > 3rd party Remote Desktop software. So screw Bill Gates. Its my box and I'll do what I want with it! > > ================ > > Overall, I agree with Ron, XP is a nice OS. But it has it's place. For > business purposes, it's nice. Bingo! But I'd still go with Win98 for gaming, True! and > Linux for servers Well thats a user (network administrators) option! What ever floats your boat. & security. A must have!!! > > > Dege > > So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny > .... If They Weren't Happening To Me > > From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 17 10:41:32 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net><3CE4428D.11068.12E1892@localhost> <000f01c1fd82$91b94ae0$f43afea9@celeronbox> <1021638720.3322.11.camel@Office> Message-ID: <001701c1fdb0$f0371e20$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Cyber Source

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 8:32 AM

Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine

What's wrong with windows xp?
Number one on my list would have to be the fact that if you change motherboards or certain hard ware that the system will fail.

Time to start backing things up by now wouldn't you say. Well since when can you always do things without any chance of ending up doing a reinstall.

Then on reinstalls, you need to call the mothership to get a new key number for your precious OS that is assigned through a very clever formula. Not my opinion of a good way to protect against piracy. I'm sure the people on the mothership think so though. After all you must want it that way right?

Well one always has the option of doing a reinstall from scratch, and not a write over.

That would be my biggest beef on xp, one of the other beefs would be the same as usual with ms os's, what amounts to very minor changes, mostly gui, then charging an average of $100.
I'm sure the rest of this group could highlight a few beefs as well.

Since when does anything come cheep or truely free. There's always a cost or hidden cost in everything.

Well true enough about the gui changes, but I see a large change as compaired to NT 4.0, but the advantage is more profound if you've never used Win NT and have been using only the Win 9x kernel. I see it as a higher advancement of OS platforms available on the market. As Rob says everything has its place, and for me XP has one here!

And now for my comment: If we are to advance the computer world forward, I think bashing everything that does not fit into the linux point of view only sets a frame of opinion that if linux is so good then why do poeple how use linux just talk about the benefits of linux through example, and not through bashing of windows as a convincing pitch!

Your truly

Ron Maggio

On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 05:09, Ronald Maggio wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "S. Lawton " <green_man@bluefrognet.net>
To: <nflug@nflug.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine


>
>
> On 10 May 2002, at 7:14, Justin Bennett wrote:
>
> > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe
explaining
> > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a
NFLUG
> > plug at the bottom.
>
> [Large Edit]
>
> I think that's a good idea.
> When I was considering a new computer, a friend asked me what
> OS I was putting in. I had heard of Linux, but had no idea what it
> really was. I took a virtual tour of Windows XP and knew I definitely
> did NOT want that.

And what's wrong with XP? I'm using it! Had no problems installing it on an
old lagacy box. The only problem I had was for it to see the modem and give
it drivers. I slipped in a PCI Motorola modem and used win 2000 drivers. Now
I can connect up. I liked the looks of XP the first time I saw it at
CompUSA. XP is if one really looks at it is Win NT version 5. Take some of
98SE, ME, NT 4.0 Win 2000 and put them all together and you got XP. It's not
a bad OS. As stated I'm running it on a legacy box its perking along. After
all its the Win NT kernel not the Win 9x kernel. Just my two cents worth!
Ron:)


> I bounced around 4 or 5 websites investigating Linux, found a link
> to NFLUG's site, and 2 days later I was at a meeting asking
> questions.
>
>
> Scott
>
> Registered Linux User 261118
>

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 17 10:50:50 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net><3CE4428D.11068.12E1892@localhost> <000f01c1fd82$91b94ae0$f43afea9@celeronbox> <1021638720.3322.11.camel@Office> <001701c1fdb0$f0371e20$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <000901c1fdb2$3d2ab6a0$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Cyber Source

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 8:32 AM

Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine

What's wrong with windows xp?
Number one on my list would have to be the fact that if you change motherboards or certain hard ware that the system will fail.

Time to start backing things up by now wouldn't you say. Well since when can you always do things without any chance of ending up doing a reinstall.

Then on reinstalls, you need to call the mothership to get a new key number for your precious OS that is assigned through a very clever formula. Not my opinion of a good way to protect against piracy. I'm sure the people on the mothership think so though. After all you must want it that way right?

Well one always has the option of doing a reinstall from scratch, and not a write over.

That would be my biggest beef on xp, one of the other beefs would be the same as usual with ms os's, what amounts to very minor changes, mostly gui, then charging an average of $100.
I'm sure the rest of this group could highlight a few beefs as well.
Since when does anything come cheep or truely free. There's always a cost or hidden cost in everything.

Well true enough about the gui changes, but I see a large change as compaired to NT 4.0, but the advantage is more profound if you've never used Win NT and have been using only the Win 9x kernel. I see it as a higher advancement of OS platforms available on the market. As Rob says everything has its place, and for me XP has one here!

And now for my comment: If we are to advance the computer world forward, I think bashing everything that does not fit into the linux point of view only sets a frame of opinion that if linux is so good then why do poeple who use linux just talk about the benefits of linux through example, and not through bashing of windows as a convincing pitch!

Your truly

Ron Maggio

Sorry for the typo:)

On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 05:09, Ronald Maggio wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "S. Lawton " <green_man@bluefrognet.net>
To: <nflug@nflug.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine


>
>
> On 10 May 2002, at 7:14, Justin Bennett wrote:
>
> > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe
explaining
> > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a
NFLUG
> > plug at the bottom.
>
> [Large Edit]
>
> I think that's a good idea.
> When I was considering a new computer, a friend asked me what
> OS I was putting in. I had heard of Linux, but had no idea what it
> really was. I took a virtual tour of Windows XP and knew I definitely
> did NOT want that.

And what's wrong with XP? I'm using it! Had no problems installing it on an
old lagacy box. The only problem I had was for it to see the modem and give
it drivers. I slipped in a PCI Motorola modem and used win 2000 drivers. Now
I can connect up. I liked the looks of XP the first time I saw it at
CompUSA. XP is if one really looks at it is Win NT version 5. Take some of
98SE, ME, NT 4.0 Win 2000 and put them all together and you got XP. It's not
a bad OS. As stated I'm running it on a legacy box its perking along. After
all its the Win NT kernel not the Win 9x kernel. Just my two cents worth!
Ron:)


> I bounced around 4 or 5 websites investigating Linux, found a link
> to NFLUG's site, and 2 days later I was at a meeting asking
> questions.
>
>
> Scott
>
> Registered Linux User 261118
>

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 17 10:52:10 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net><3CE4428D.11068.12E1892@localhost> <000f01c1fd82$91b94ae0$f43afea9@celeronbox> <1021638720.3322.11.camel@Office> <001701c1fdb0$f0371e20$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <001301c1fdb2$6d291720$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Cyber Source

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 8:32 AM

Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine

What's wrong with windows xp?
Number one on my list would have to be the fact that if you change motherboards or certain hard ware that the system will fail.

Time to start backing things up by now wouldn't you say. Well since when can you always do things without any chance of ending up doing a reinstall.

Then on reinstalls, you need to call the mothership to get a new key number for your precious OS that is assigned through a very clever formula. Not my opinion of a good way to protect against piracy. I'm sure the people on the mothership think so though. After all you must want it that way right?

Well one always has the option of doing a reinstall from scratch, and not a write over.

That would be my biggest beef on xp, one of the other beefs would be the same as usual with ms os's, what amounts to very minor changes, mostly gui, then charging an average of $100.
I'm sure the rest of this group could highlight a few beefs as well.
Since when does anything come cheep or truely free. There's always a cost or hidden cost in everything.

Well true enough about the gui changes, but I see a large change as compaired to NT 4.0, but the advantage is more profound if you've never used Win NT and have been using only the Win 9x kernel. I see it as a higher advancement of OS platforms available on the market. As Rob says everything has its place, and for me XP has one here!

And now for my comment: If we are to advance the computer world forward, I think bashing everything that does not fit into the linux point of view only sets a frame of opinion that if linux is so good then why don't poeple who use linux just talk about the benefits of linux through example, and not through bashing of windows as a convincing pitch!

Your truly

Ron Maggio

Sorry for the typo:)

On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 05:09, Ronald Maggio wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "S. Lawton " <green_man@bluefrognet.net>
To: <nflug@nflug.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine


>
>
> On 10 May 2002, at 7:14, Justin Bennett wrote:
>
> > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe
explaining
> > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a
NFLUG
> > plug at the bottom.
>
> [Large Edit]
>
> I think that's a good idea.
> When I was considering a new computer, a friend asked me what
> OS I was putting in. I had heard of Linux, but had no idea what it
> really was. I took a virtual tour of Windows XP and knew I definitely
> did NOT want that.

And what's wrong with XP? I'm using it! Had no problems installing it on an
old lagacy box. The only problem I had was for it to see the modem and give
it drivers. I slipped in a PCI Motorola modem and used win 2000 drivers. Now
I can connect up. I liked the looks of XP the first time I saw it at
CompUSA. XP is if one really looks at it is Win NT version 5. Take some of
98SE, ME, NT 4.0 Win 2000 and put them all together and you got XP. It's not
a bad OS. As stated I'm running it on a legacy box its perking along. After
all its the Win NT kernel not the Win 9x kernel. Just my two cents worth!
Ron:)


> I bounced around 4 or 5 websites investigating Linux, found a link
> to NFLUG's site, and 2 days later I was at a meeting asking
> questions.
>
>
> Scott
>
> Registered Linux User 261118
>

From hpirson at buffalo.veridian.com Fri May 17 10:56:28 2002 From: hpirson at buffalo.veridian.com (Bert Pirson) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:12 2005 Subject: M$ license References: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F3033770656A3@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <023e01c1fdb3$06292e60$14366489@buffalo.veridian.com> A few years ago there was a movement of Linux users to return preinstalled Windose for a refund. Haven't heard much about it lately. You can search the web for more info. Here is a start: http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9901/25/winrefund.idg/ Bert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Riga, Anthony" To: "Nflug (E-mail)" Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 7:59 AM > I was installing a version of M$ Project for an engineer here at work and I decided to read the license agreement that M$ forces you into when installing thir software. Did you know that if you dont use the software acording to the license agreement you can take it back for a full refund. That means if you go to the store and buy a computer with Winblows on it and have no intention in using it even though its preinstalled you should have the right to get your money back! They dont give you the choice of operating systems its just assumed that people want to use M$. We as computer consumers should make more of an issue about it and get the word out there, alot of people would be taking back their winblows os for refunds and let them know there are other better alternatives to switch to Linux. From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 17 10:54:59 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <001701c1fdb0$f0371e20$f43afea9@celeronbox> References: <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net><3CE4428D.11068.12E1892@localhost> <000f01c1fd82$91b94ae0$f43afea9@celeronbox> <1021638720.3322.11.camel@Office> <001701c1fdb0$f0371e20$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <1021647300.2363.3.camel@Office> Has nothing to do with backups. I can always go in and get data even if the os fails. If you've never done the activation/registration, you probably will soon (90 day window I believe).
As far as your last comment, I for one have been very busy at it :)
On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 10:41, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine

What's wrong with windows xp?
Number one on my list would have to be the fact that if you change motherboards or certain hard ware that the system will fail.

Time to start backing things up by now wouldn't you say. Well since when can you always do things without any chance of ending up doing a reinstall.

Then on reinstalls, you need to call the mothership to get a new key number for your precious OS that is assigned through a very clever formula. Not my opinion of a good way to protect against piracy. I'm sure the people on the mothership think so though. After all you must want it that way right?

Well one always has the option of doing a reinstall from scratch, and not a write over.

That would be my biggest beef on xp, one of the other beefs would be the same as usual with ms os's, what amounts to very minor changes, mostly gui, then charging an average of $100.
I'm sure the rest of this group could highlight a few beefs as well.

Since when does anything come cheep or truely free. There's always a cost or hidden cost in everything.
Well true enough about the gui changes, but I see a large change as compaired to NT 4.0, but the advantage is more profound if you've never used Win NT and have been using only the Win 9x kernel. I see it as a higher advancement of OS platforms available on the market. As Rob says everything has its place, and for me XP has one here!

And now for my comment: If we are to advance the computer world forward, I think bashing everything that does not fit into the linux point of view only sets a frame of opinion that if linux is so good then why do poeple how use linux just talk about the benefits of linux through example, and not through bashing of windows as a convincing pitch!

Your truly

Ron Maggio

On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 05:09, Ronald Maggio wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "S. Lawton " <green_man@bluefrognet.net>
To: <nflug@nflug.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine


>
>
> On 10 May 2002, at 7:14, Justin Bennett wrote:
>
> > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe
explaining
> > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a
NFLUG
> > plug at the bottom.
>
> [Large Edit]
>
> I think that's a good idea.
> When I was considering a new computer, a friend asked me what
> OS I was putting in. I had heard of Linux, but had no idea what it
> really was. I took a virtual tour of Windows XP and knew I definitely
> did NOT want that.

And what's wrong with XP? I'm using it! Had no problems installing it on an
old lagacy box. The only problem I had was for it to see the modem and give
it drivers. I slipped in a PCI Motorola modem and used win 2000 drivers. Now
I can connect up. I liked the looks of XP the first time I saw it at
CompUSA. XP is if one really looks at it is Win NT version 5. Take some of
98SE, ME, NT 4.0 Win 2000 and put them all together and you got XP. It's not
a bad OS. As stated I'm running it on a legacy box its perking along. After
all its the Win NT kernel not the Win 9x kernel. Just my two cents worth!
Ron:)


> I bounced around 4 or 5 websites investigating Linux, found a link
> to NFLUG's site, and 2 days later I was at a meeting asking
> questions.
>
>
> Scott
>
> Registered Linux User 261118
>

From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 17 10:59:36 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: one more on the last comment Message-ID: <1021647576.2361.7.camel@Office> Can you tell me a better/safer platform for online/email use other than Linux? (in the context of virus safety). Thanks to Klez32, I've done approx. 10 Linux installs this week alone :)

From todd at phyberoptiks.net Fri May 17 11:13:11 2002 From: todd at phyberoptiks.net (Todd Wirth) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: one more on the last comment In-Reply-To: <1021647576.2361.7.camel@Office> Message-ID: <003501c1fdb5$5bf782e0$02fea8c0@pepsi>

The "best" platform is no platform. LOL

Reminds me of a sex-ed lecture.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Cyber Source
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:00 AM
To: nflug@nflug.org
Subject: one more on the last comment

Can you tell me a better/safer platform for online/email use other than Linux? (in the context of virus safety). Thanks to Klez32, I've done approx. 10 Linux installs this week alone :)

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 17 11:18:53 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: one more on the last comment References: <1021647576.2361.7.camel@Office> Message-ID: <001501c1fdb6$28c8ad80$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Cyber Source

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:59 AM

Subject: one more on the last comment

Can you tell me a better/safer platform for online/email use other than Linux? (in the context of virus safety). Thanks to Klez32, I've done approx. 10 Linux installs this week alone :)

Its all well and good to state this and that, but go into a CompUSA on a Sunday and see the average end user (gas and go)

All in all I see a lot of self serving going on in the computer world mainly from the people with an advanced level of computer knowledge who fail to see that their view of the computer world is vary small. Industry sales are mainly due to gaming and other computer past times. I don't see it ever changing. So my opinion was stated as a general observation not a look at any particular

segment of the computer world.

Ron

From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 17 11:44:31 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: one more on the last comment Message-ID: <1021650271.2373.10.camel@Office> -----Forwarded Message-----
From: Cyber Source <peter@cybersource.us>
To: nflug@nflug.org
Subject: Re: one more on the last comment
Date: 17 May 2002 11:43:29 -0400

I don't go to CompUSA. It is there for the end-user and whoever may need something right away. The point I am making is that while the masses all drone in line following the ms piper, I have been turning my clients onto what is sometimes not there yet, not understood, sometimes equal and quite often sometimes better alternative. I make an honest living trying to help people in the computer world to see and do more. I'm not here to bash I happen to really like Linux and so do my customers. I'll be the first to voice it. I think ms has enough voices working for it (as well as some unscrupulous practices).
There's my .02 worth :)
On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 11:18, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:59 AM
Subject: one more on the last comment

Can you tell me a better/safer platform for online/email use other than Linux? (in the context of virus safety). Thanks to Klez32, I've done approx. 10 Linux installs this week alone :)

Its all well and good to state this and that, but go into a CompUSA on a Sunday and see the average end user (gas and go)
All in all I see a lot of self serving going on in the computer world mainly from the people with an advanced level of computer knowledge who fail to see that their view of the computer world is vary small. Industry sales are mainly due to gaming and other computer past times. I don't see it ever changing. So my opinion was stated as a general observation not a look at any particular
segment of the computer world.

Ron

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 17 12:18:01 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: one more on the last comment References: <1021650271.2373.10.camel@Office> Message-ID: <000d01c1fdbe$6b685de0$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Cyber Source

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:44 AM

Subject: Re: one more on the last comment

-----Forwarded Message-----
From: Cyber Source <peter@cybersource.us>
To: nflug@nflug.org
Subject: Re: one more on the last comment
Date: 17 May 2002 11:43:29 -0400

I don't go to CompUSA. It is there for the end-user and whoever may need something right away. The point I am making is that while the masses all drone in line following the ms piper, I have been turning my clients onto what is sometimes not there yet, not understood, sometimes equal and quite often sometimes better alternative. I make an honest living trying to help people in the computer world to see and do more. I'm not here to bash I happen to really like Linux and so do my customers. I'll be the first to voice it. I think ms has enough voices working for it (as well as some unscrupulous practices).
There's my .02 worth :)

I whole heartily agree. As far as the bashing goes, it was general observation not a finger pointing in anyones direction. I think peter the phrase is the (The masses are asses). I do see a place for any OS platform, but its the end users option to give money to M$ or try an alternative. The only one problem I see is that the alternative has a higher learning curve, and without help the aveage end user can't make heads or tails of it. Even though Mandrake has made it easier to get Linux up and running and being able to dial out so on and so forth, but the inner workings are still a mystery to the vast majority raised on DOS/Windows. Also it may or may not be in the near furture more user friendly. Remember Unix/Linux did not get the jump start on the desktop, so the public raised on Windows can't or won't convert or use equally over night. As well from what I've seen and heard over the the years most people don't even know what DOS is or what is does. Again the gas and go user! Well see you all at the meeting:)

Ron

On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 11:18, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:59 AM
Subject: one more on the last comment

Can you tell me a better/safer platform for online/email use other than Linux? (in the context of virus safety). Thanks to Klez32, I've done approx. 10 Linux installs this week alone :)

Its all well and good to state this and that, but go into a CompUSA on a Sunday and see the average end user (gas and go)
All in all I see a lot of self serving going on in the computer world mainly from the people with an advanced level of computer knowledge who fail to see that their view of the computer world is vary small. Industry sales are mainly due to gaming and other computer past times. I don't see it ever changing. So my opinion was stated as a general observation not a look at any particular
segment of the computer world.

Ron

From peter at thecybersource.com Sat May 18 09:25:02 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: meeting Message-ID: <1021728302.3399.14.camel@Office> I regretfully have to miss tomorrow's meeting as some work and vehicle emergencies have popped up. I really haven't had time to prepare stuff for the installation presentation and there seemed to be a lack of interest on this as far as feedback from everyone. I would like to slate it for the next meeting if there is still an interest.

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Sat May 18 11:47:22 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: meeting References: <1021728302.3399.14.camel@Office> Message-ID: <001501c1fe83$4f518d00$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Cyber Source

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 9:25 AM

Subject: meeting

I regretfully have to miss tomorrow's meeting as some work and vehicle emergencies have popped up. I really haven't had time to prepare stuff for the installation presentation and there seemed to be a lack of interest on this as far as feedback from everyone. I would like to slate it for the next meeting if there is still an interest.

Sorry to hear about that. Well I was looking forward to this meeting for your presentation on how to install a soft modem, so on and so forth. I also hoped that you where going to have a handout to read as a short review of your presentation. ie: web links, ect, for further information on the subjects covered. I still have great interest in the topics you where going to cover. So if you are going to present them at the next meeting, I will look forward to that presentation.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From peter at thecybersource.com Sat May 18 14:24:50 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: meeting In-Reply-To: <001501c1fe83$4f518d00$f43afea9@celeronbox> References: <1021728302.3399.14.camel@Office> <001501c1fe83$4f518d00$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <1021746290.2355.10.camel@Office> Thanks Ron,
Ok then, I will plan on it for the next meeting if that is ok with everyone. I just haven't had the time lately to prepare anything. I will do an installation with a software modem, if we have internet, show how to install LimeWire with Java (very cool) and even install a tv tuner card, Bob Meyer really gets a kick out of those (they do rock!). If people would like for me to do this at the next meeting, I will prepare, please voice up people.
On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 11:47, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 9:25 AM
Subject: meeting

I regretfully have to miss tomorrow's meeting as some work and vehicle emergencies have popped up. I really haven't had time to prepare stuff for the installation presentation and there seemed to be a lack of interest on this as far as feedback from everyone. I would like to slate it for the next meeting if there is still an interest.

Sorry to hear about that. Well I was looking forward to this meeting for your presentation on how to install a soft modem, so on and so forth. I also hoped that you where going to have a handout to read as a short review of your presentation. ie: web links, ect, for further information on the subjects covered. I still have great interest in the topics you where going to cover. So if you are going to present them at the next meeting, I will look forward to that presentation.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Sat May 18 15:44:43 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: meeting References: <1021728302.3399.14.camel@Office> <001501c1fe83$4f518d00$f43afea9@celeronbox> <1021746290.2355.10.camel@Office> Message-ID: <000f01c1fea4$75cc4ee0$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Cyber Source

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 2:24 PM

Subject: Re: meeting

Thanks Ron,
Ok then, I will plan on it for the next meeting if that is ok with everyone. I just haven't had the time lately to prepare anything. I will do an installation with a software modem, if we have internet, show how to install LimeWire with Java (very cool) and even install a tv tuner card, Bob Meyer really gets a kick out of those (they do rock!). If people would like for me to do this at the next meeting, I will prepare, please voice up people.
On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 11:47, Ronald Maggio wrote:

Well I have a Motorola SM56K winmodem on my AMD box, I was planning to add another HDD to install Mandrake 8.? and as well a cd-rw. Now here's where your presentation would come in handy for someone like me. Motorola does not make modems anymore, but they have this webpage available to download the drivers for Windows 2000 and also for Linux. (Thats how I got the modem to work with XP) Here's the web site for the drivers. Oh I did download the drivers for Linux. http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=SM56PCI2DFV&nodeId=01M0yyK3NVV

I hope to be able to install this modem for Linux as I have done for XP. I also have a question. Have you or anyone done a dualboot with XP and Linux with LILO or GRUB and was it a pain or easy? Anything I should know about? Please share:) Its a nice speakerphone voice modem vary popular and stable. I often see it still available cheep around twenty dollars. Don't ask me what I paid a couple years ago, but it was selling for more then it going for now! Installing it in XP was relatively easy. I would not recommend installing it manually from safemode but let XP do an automatic installation from safemode and your in like flint. Yes I know what is going to be said. How come you had to install the modem in this way, and how its easyer to install a modem in Linux is ya da ya da ya da. Well I like XP and this is the nature of the beast and I had no misconception about XP and how to install hardware on it. I read the compatibility information listed at M$ web site and knew what I was getting into. I have never seen a perfect relationship between the end user and the beast.

So see you fellows tomorrow.

Ron:)

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 9:25 AM
Subject: meeting

I regretfully have to miss tomorrow's meeting as some work and vehicle emergencies have popped up. I really haven't had time to prepare stuff for the installation presentation and there seemed to be a lack of interest on this as far as feedback from everyone. I would like to slate it for the next meeting if there is still an interest.

Sorry to hear about that. Well I was looking forward to this meeting for your presentation on how to install a soft modem, so on and so forth. I also hoped that you where going to have a handout to read as a short review of your presentation. ie: web links, ect, for further information on the subjects covered. I still have great interest in the topics you where going to cover. So if you are going to present them at the next meeting, I will look forward to that presentation.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From umar99 at yahoo.com Sat May 18 16:24:19 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: adelphia cable on linux Message-ID: <20020518202419.88067.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, This is a rather simple problem, but for some reason can't figure it out. Just got adelphia cable. Works fine in windows, but doesn't in linux (Mandrake 8.0). I get the IP address from dhcp server and it shows up when i do ifconfig, but none of my browsers work. Is there any other thing I need to configure? Thanks. Umar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From peter at thecybersource.com Sat May 18 16:30:18 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: meeting Message-ID: <1021753818.2364.18.camel@Office>
I've never done a dual boot with XP and anything. I would imagine it's like the rest though, do the Windows first then do the Linux. I also believe that Mandrake 8x with LILO writes to the MBR of the drive it booted from (or was installed to) automatically. As with the modem, the chipset is the important piece. Conexant chipsets (used on alot of motorola's) have great linux support. Lucent has good support as well while Rockwell I've found to be the most trouble. Good luck with it, if you need help b4 the next meeting, let me know
On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 15:44, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: meeting

Thanks Ron,
Ok then, I will plan on it for the next meeting if that is ok with everyone. I just haven't had the time lately to prepare anything. I will do an installation with a software modem, if we have internet, show how to install LimeWire with Java (very cool) and even install a tv tuner card, Bob Meyer really gets a kick out of those (they do rock!). If people would like for me to do this at the next meeting, I will prepare, please voice up people.
On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 11:47, Ronald Maggio wrote:

Well I have a Motorola SM56K winmodem on my AMD box, I was planning to add another HDD to install Mandrake 8.? and as well a cd-rw. Now here's where your presentation would come in handy for someone like me. Motorola does not make modems anymore, but they have this webpage available to download the drivers for Windows 2000 and also for Linux. (Thats how I got the modem to work with XP) Here's the web site for the drivers. Oh I did download the drivers for Linux. http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=SM56PCI2DFV&nodeId=01M0yyK3NVV
I hope to be able to install this modem for Linux as I have done for XP. I also have a question. Have you or anyone done a dualboot with XP and Linux with LILO or GRUB and was it a pain or easy? Anything I should know about? Please share:) Its a nice speakerphone voice modem vary popular and stable. I often see it still available cheep around twenty dollars. Don't ask me what I paid a couple years ago, but it was selling for more then it going for now! Installing it in XP was relatively easy. I would not recommend installing it manually from safemode but let XP do an automatic installation from safemode and your in like flint. Yes I know what is going to be said. How come you had to install the modem in this way, and how its easyer to install a modem in Linux is ya da ya da ya da. Well I like XP and this is the nature of the beast and I had no misconception about XP and how to install hardware on it. I read the compatibili ! ty information listed at M$ web site and knew what I was getting into. I have never seen a perfect relationship between the end user and the beast.
So see you fellows tomorrow.

Ron:)

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 9:25 AM
Subject: meeting

I regretfully have to miss tomorrow's meeting as some work and vehicle emergencies have popped up. I really haven't had time to prepare stuff for the installation presentation and there seemed to be a lack of interest on this as far as feedback from everyone. I would like to slate it for the next meeting if there is still an interest.

Sorry to hear about that. Well I was looking forward to this meeting for your presentation on how to install a soft modem, so on and so forth. I also hoped that you where going to have a handout to read as a short review of your presentation. ie: web links, ect, for further information on the subjects covered. I still have great interest in the topics you where going to cover. So if you are going to present them at the next meeting, I will look forward to that presentation.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From kagalle at infoblvd.net Sat May 18 16:46:58 2002 From: kagalle at infoblvd.net (Ken Galle) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: adelphia cable on linux In-Reply-To: <20020518202419.88067.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020518202419.88067.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020518164658.51961c2a.kagalle@infoblvd.net> Make sure you have a default route and make sure you can resolve names (most likly the problem). Since it is a cable on-all-the-time connection, you can just add "nameserver x.x.x.x" to the /etc/resolv.conf file, where x.x.x.x is the adelphia's dns server. Check the route by doing "route". The method for adding a static route varies by distro - redhat it is under /etc/sysconfig/routes, and the format of the file is sort of odd. I always end up looking at the /etc/rc.d/init.d/network script to figure it out. Don't know about mandrake. Ken On Sat, 18 May 2002 13:24:19 -0700 (PDT) umar wrote: > Hi, > > This is a rather simple problem, but for some reason > can't figure it out. > > Just got adelphia cable. Works fine in windows, but > doesn't in linux (Mandrake 8.0). I get the IP address > from dhcp server and it shows up when i do ifconfig, > but none of my browsers work. Is there any other thing > I need to configure? Thanks. > > Umar > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > From todd at phyberoptiks.net Sat May 18 16:48:54 2002 From: todd at phyberoptiks.net (Todd Wirth) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: adelphia cable on linux In-Reply-To: <20020518202419.88067.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005001c1fead$6c375f10$02fea8c0@pepsi> There are some options to dhcpcd that might be working against you. You're probally just having name resolution problems. Check the file /etc/resolv.conf If it's empty the dhcp client is probally being run with the -R option which prevents dhcpcd from overwriting the /etc/resolv.conf file. The file stores your name servers, and domain information. dhcpcd -k (will kill the client) dhcpcd [interface] (will start the client again on an optional interface (eth0 is probally yours)) I'm running my own DNS server, but I have these two IPs from a while ago which I think are valid. You could put this in /etc/resolv.conf and it should work: nameserver 24.48.33.2 nameserver 24.48.33.3 Some utils to test name resolution are nslookup and dig. Typing: dig www.adelphia.net Should yield: <--stuff here--> ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.adelphia.net. 21908 IN A 64.8.50.26 <--more stuff here--> Hope that helps, -- Todd -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of umar Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 4:24 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: adelphia cable on linux Hi, This is a rather simple problem, but for some reason can't figure it out. Just got adelphia cable. Works fine in windows, but doesn't in linux (Mandrake 8.0). I get the IP address from dhcp server and it shows up when i do ifconfig, but none of my browsers work. Is there any other thing I need to configure? Thanks. Umar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From kagalle at infoblvd.net Sat May 18 16:52:10 2002 From: kagalle at infoblvd.net (Ken Galle) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: adelphia cable on linux In-Reply-To: <20020518202419.88067.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020518202419.88067.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020518165210.214e490d.kagalle@infoblvd.net> Umar, sorry to post twice, but I'd better just add - be sure you have firwall rules setup and unused services turned off. Telnet for sure, ssh also if you are not going to use it. Also, make sure you use a strong root password - long and not made of words. They will find you - you can be sure. Be sure you are ready. Ken From deadpoint at adelphia.net Sat May 18 17:04:15 2002 From: deadpoint at adelphia.net (deadpoint@adelphia.net) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: adelphia cable on linux In-Reply-To: <20020518164658.51961c2a.kagalle@infoblvd.net> References: <20020518202419.88067.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> <20020518202419.88067.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4.1.20020518165732.009f7800@mail.abs.adelphia.net> you shouldn't need to do this, the dhcp client on you machine will get and configure your IP address, name servers, and default route. it will configure all routing actually. if you open a terminal window and to ifconfig -a or ifconfig eth0 you should have an IP address assigned from adelphia. if you run netstat -rn you'll get the routing info, the default route should be similare to you IP address, with the last octet being 1. if you cat /etc/resolv.conf it should contain info like: domain buf.adelphia.net. nameserver 24.48.33.2 nameserver 24.48.33.3 search buf.adelphia.net. if you have a defaul route can you ping it, can you ping the nameserver IP address? At 04:46 PM 5/18/02 -0400, you wrote: >Make sure you have a default route and make sure you can resolve names (most >likly the problem). Since it is a cable on-all-the-time connection, you can >just add "nameserver x.x.x.x" to the /etc/resolv.conf file, where x.x.x.x is >the adelphia's dns server. Check the route by doing "route". The method >for adding a static route varies by distro - redhat it is under >/etc/sysconfig/routes, and the format of the file is sort of odd. I always >end up looking at the /etc/rc.d/init.d/network script to figure it out. >Don't know about mandrake. > >Ken > >On Sat, 18 May 2002 13:24:19 -0700 (PDT) >umar wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> This is a rather simple problem, but for some reason >> can't figure it out. >> >> Just got adelphia cable. Works fine in windows, but >> doesn't in linux (Mandrake 8.0). I get the IP address >> from dhcp server and it shows up when i do ifconfig, >> but none of my browsers work. Is there any other thing >> I need to configure? Thanks. >> >> Umar >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience >> http://launch.yahoo.com >> From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Sat May 18 19:43:05 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: meeting References: <1021753818.2364.18.camel@Office> Message-ID: <001701c1fec5$c2ae4da0$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Cyber Source

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 4:30 PM

Subject: Re: meeting

I've never done a dual boot with XP and anything. I would imagine it's like the rest though, do the Windows first then do the Linux. I also believe that Mandrake 8x with LILO writes to the MBR of the drive it booted from (or was installed to) automatically. As with the modem, the chipset is the important piece. Conexant chipsets (used on alot of motorola's) have great linux support. Lucent has good support as well while Rockwell I've found to be the most trouble. Good luck with it, if you need help b4 the next meeting, let me know
On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 15:44, Ronald Maggio wrote:

Well it won't be for some time till I get the money together to buy another HDD and maybe a cd-rw as well. I believe it says Motorola right on the chip (sets) so I have no idea weather it's really Conexant or otherwise. I'm going to put the other HDD as a secondary on the secondary IDE channel and set the cd-rw to primary on the same channel. Well LILO or GRUB can be written to the bootrecords in a few ways, I just let it write the bootrecord as an additional line of I guess for lack of a better term (instructions)? to the MBR on the primary drive primary channel. I tend to leave well enough alone, and if I run into trouble I just fdisk the MBR and reinstall Linux. ie: fdisk /mbr at a DOS prompt. Well after your presentation next month I'm sure I'll understand how to do it. At least I hope! I'm still kind of at a loss at Linux, but I hope in time I'll get the hang of it. You know I picked up DOS and Windows really quick but for the life of me I just can't get to understand the picture. I mean the inner working of it seem to loose me. I don't know I guess in time I'll get it? Well see ya:)

Ron

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: meeting

Thanks Ron,
Ok then, I will plan on it for the next meeting if that is ok with everyone. I just haven't had the time lately to prepare anything. I will do an installation with a software modem, if we have internet, show how to install LimeWire with Java (very cool) and even install a tv tuner card, Bob Meyer really gets a kick out of those (they do rock!). If people would like for me to do this at the next meeting, I will prepare, please voice up people.
On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 11:47, Ronald Maggio wrote:

Well I have a Motorola SM56K winmodem on my AMD box, I was planning to add another HDD to install Mandrake 8.? and as well a cd-rw. Now here's where your presentation would come in handy for someone like me. Motorola does not make modems anymore, but they have this webpage available to download the drivers for Windows 2000 and also for Linux. (Thats how I got the modem to work with XP) Here's the web site for the drivers. Oh I did download the drivers for Linux. http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=SM56PCI2DFV&nodeId=01M0yyK3NVV
I hope to be able to install this modem for Linux as I have done for XP. I also have a question. Have you or anyone done a dualboot with XP and Linux with LILO or GRUB and was it a pain or easy? Anything I should know about? Please share:) Its a nice speakerphone voice modem vary popular and stable. I often see it still available cheep around twenty dollars. Don't ask me what I paid a couple years ago, but it was selling for more then it going for now! Installing it in XP was relatively easy. I would not recommend installing it manually from safemode but let XP do an automatic installation from safemode and your in like flint. Yes I know what is going to be said. How come you had to install the modem in this way, and how its easyer to install a modem in Linux is ya da ya da ya da. Well I like XP and this is the nature of the beast and I had no misconception about XP and how to install hardware on it. I read the compatibili! ty information listed at M$ web site and knew what I was getting into. I have never seen a perfect relationship between the end user and the beast.
So see you fellows tomorrow.

Ron:)

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 9:25 AM
Subject: meeting

I regretfully have to miss tomorrow's meeting as some work and vehicle emergencies have popped up. I really haven't had time to prepare stuff for the installation presentation and there seemed to be a lack of interest on this as far as feedback from everyone. I would like to slate it for the next meeting if there is still an interest.

Sorry to hear about that. Well I was looking forward to this meeting for your presentation on how to install a soft modem, so on and so forth. I also hoped that you where going to have a handout to read as a short review of your presentation. ie: web links, ect, for further information on the subjects covered. I still have great interest in the topics you where going to cover. So if you are going to present them at the next meeting, I will look forward to that presentation.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From green_man at bluefrognet.net Sat May 18 19:52:55 2002 From: green_man at bluefrognet.net (S. Lawton) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: meeting In-Reply-To: <1021728302.3399.14.camel@Office> Message-ID: <3CE6B117.26505.C0B305@localhost> On 18 May 2002, at 9:25, Cyber Source wrote: > I regretfully have to miss tomorrow's meeting as some work and vehicle > emergencies have popped up. I really haven't had time to prepare stuff > for the installation presentation and there seemed to be a lack of > interest on this as far as feedback from everyone. I would like to > slate it for the next meeting if there is still an interest. > > > > Too bad, I was really looking forward to it. I was preparing a list of questions about installs, reinstalls with Windows, softmodems, etc. Possible conflict next month - my calendar says the 3rd SUN [16 JUN 02] is Father's Day. Not a problem for me personally, but we might as well start discussing it. Here's a pitch: Linux - it's better than a necktie ! Sl?inte, Scott From robromito at adelphia.net Sat May 18 21:47:24 2002 From: robromito at adelphia.net (Robert Romito) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: Tomorrow's Meeting Message-ID: <3CE7042C.4020008@adelphia.net> Hi Everyone. My allergies have been doing a number on me the past few days. Sorry, but I won't make the meeting tomorrow. Please go ahead and talk ing about an article for BICM. If you don't get to it, that's OK too. We can always discuss through the list or at the next meeting. Have fun tomorrow. Robert Romito. From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Sun May 19 07:49:00 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: meeting References: <3CE6B117.26505.C0B305@localhost> Message-ID: <001901c1ff2b$2cb7bc80$f43afea9@celeronbox> ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Lawton" To: Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 7:52 PM Subject: Re: meeting On 18 May 2002, at 9:25, Cyber Source wrote: > I regretfully have to miss tomorrow's meeting as some work and vehicle > emergencies have popped up. I really haven't had time to prepare stuff > for the installation presentation and there seemed to be a lack of > interest on this as far as feedback from everyone. I would like to > slate it for the next meeting if there is still an interest. > > > > Too bad, I was really looking forward to it. I was preparing a list of questions about installs, reinstalls with Windows, softmodems, etc. Possible conflict next month - my calendar says the 3rd SUN [16 JUN 02] is Father's Day. Not a problem for me personally, but we might as well start discussing it. Here's a pitch: Linux - it's better than a necktie ! Sl?inte, Scott I think nothing but a major holiday has anything to do with canceling or rescheduling a meeting. If we had to cancel a meeting date because of it landing on every holiday we would never have a meeting. Take a look at the calendar every time you turn around its some dam holiday. I think all these dumb celebrations should not even be a question as to weather to schedule a meeting on that day. The only time a meeting should be rescheduled is when it lands on like I said a major holiday. ie: Thanksgiving, Christmas, or Easter. My two cents worth. Ron:) From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Sun May 19 18:09:04 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: Next meeting date & DEC Alpha Message-ID: <000a01c1ff81$cab973a0$f43afea9@celeronbox>

Hi All.

I vote for the 30th of June (No holidays land on this day!) this way it will give me time to put things together for the meeting.

ie: DEC Alpha so on and so forth. Which can be done over June, July and August. In little segments as a sig (special interest group) part of NFLUG. I'll be posting info in the form of attachments of items relating to the DEC Alpha (s) that came up at this meeting. I was surprised to see such an interest in the subject. Peter most likely will do his presentation, and this subject will be done towards the end of the meeting if nobody minds. I will be getting it ready to do a total installation, I hope! over a few meetings. I won't be giving out any handouts but will make information available well before I start as I mentioned in the form of an attachment (s) full of info. So you can understand the whole concept and how you too can acquire equipment like mine to try out this kind of project. If anyone has any questions please feel free to ask me and I'll do my best to answer them.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Sun May 19 18:30:22 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: Redmond Linux Message-ID: <000a01c1ff84$c4898f80$f43afea9@celeronbox>

Well I went to the site and tried to see how lone it would take to download with a 56k modem. Forget it 1 day and 20 hours!

If someone has a cable or dsl modem would you please downloaded it for me its only 3 cd's worth and should take only a few hours with broadband. Redmond Linux is available at: http://www.lycoris.com/ use north american mirror.

Thanks:)

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From umar99 at yahoo.com Sun May 19 21:30:43 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: connection sharing issues Message-ID: <20020520013043.15471.qmail@web11301.mail.yahoo.com> Hi again, Well, the cable connection is now working. Just made the entry for namservers and all set. Now another problem I am having is that I want to share my connection with my roommates (they use XP). I run the internet connection sharing wizard (in Mandrake Control Center) and it says it's running. Now I am getting ip address in client computer but they can't browse any website. I tried to ping some websites and the URL seems to resolve but I am not getting any ping replies. Seems like my computer is blocking their requests. I disabled the firewall and reduced the security level to minimum, but that didn't solve the problem. Now get me out of this situation. Thanks. Umar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Sun May 19 22:02:34 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: Redmond Linux In-Reply-To: <000a01c1ff84$c4898f80$f43afea9@celeronbox> References: <000a01c1ff84$c4898f80$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <1021860154.12549.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Sure, No problem. I'm in Tennesee now, on vacation, I will be back tuesday. I can get it then, if you don't have it by then... I'm on Dialup now.. :( Justin On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 18:30, Ronald Maggio wrote: > Well I went to the site and tried to see how lone it would take to download with a 56k modem. Forget it 1 day and 20 hours! > If someone has a cable or dsl modem would you please downloaded it for me its only 3 cd's worth and should take only a few hours with broadband. Redmond Linux is available at: http://www.lycoris.com/ use north american mirror. > Thanks:) > > Ron Maggio > Have Screwdriver Will Travel > Computer Repair Service > P.O. BOX 186 > Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186 > Phone: (716) 677-5909 > havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Dynabrade using MailScanner, > and is believed to be clean. > -- From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Mon May 20 07:08:48 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: DEC Alpha Message-ID: <000701c1ffee$b8af9aa0$f43afea9@celeronbox> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: Size: 1425 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/19650101/25d0f9b6/attachment.ksh -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Attached File Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 24222 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/19650101/25d0f9b6/AttachedFile.bin From mrjames at localnet.com Mon May 20 07:10:31 2002 From: mrjames at localnet.com (mrjames@localnet.com) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: php project mangements software In-Reply-To: <3CE4FE05.8010806@phor.com> References: <3CE4FE05.8010806@phor.com> Message-ID: <4532.65.115.14.3.1021893031.squirrel@webmailmax.localnet.com> I would be interested in obtaining a copy. Could you please forward a copy to my email address: mjames@shs.k12.ny.us Michael James Assistant Systems Engineer Sweet Home Schools > if your interested the systems group, a few others at cognigen are > using a php/mysql project management tool called dotproject. if you'd > like i can send you over the code to try out. don't get the code from > project webpage at sourceforge, it hasn't been updated in over a year. > we've made substantial modifications to the code to make it more > useable. > > Riga, Anthony wrote: > >> I was installing a version of M$ Project for an engineer here at work >> and I decided to read the license agreement that M$ forces you into >> when installing thir software. Did you know that if you dont use the >> software acording to the license agreement you can take it back for a >> full refund. That means if you go to the store and buy a computer with >> Winblows on it and have no intention in using it even though its >> preinstalled you should have the right to get your money back! They >> dont give you the choice of operating systems its just assumed that >> people want to use M$. We as computer consumers should make more of an >> issue about it and get the word out there, alot of people would be >> taking back their winblows os for refunds and let them know there are >> other better alternatives to switch to Linux. >> >> > > > -- > Darin Perusich > Unix Systems Administrator > Cognigen Corp. > darinper@cognigencorp.com From vlokstone at yahoo.com Mon May 20 08:42:11 2002 From: vlokstone at yahoo.com (vlok stone) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: adelphia cable on linux In-Reply-To: <20020518202419.88067.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020520124211.15110.qmail@web10405.mail.yahoo.com> 1st check if you can ping past your gateway. don't use a proxy server, edit-> pref -> direct connection. should be good to go. if that doesn't work, check if dns severs are resolving urls if not, use another dns server ( 4.2.2.2 ) . --- umar wrote: > Hi, > > This is a rather simple problem, but for some reason > can't figure it out. > > Just got adelphia cable. Works fine in windows, but > doesn't in linux (Mandrake 8.0). I get the IP > address > from dhcp server and it shows up when i do ifconfig, > but none of my browsers work. Is there any other > thing > I need to configure? Thanks. > > Umar > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Mon May 20 09:40:27 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: meeting In-Reply-To: <1021746290.2355.10.camel@Office> Message-ID: <20020520134027.59957.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> --- Cyber Source wrote: > Thanks Ron, > Ok then, I will plan on it for the next meeting if that is ok with > everyone. I just haven't had the time lately to prepare anything. I will > do an installation with a software modem, if we have internet, show how > to install LimeWire with Java (very cool) and even install a tv tuner > card, Bob Meyer really gets a kick out of those (they do rock!). If > people would like for me to do this at the next meeting, I will prepare, > please voice up people. If there's time, after the install. I'd like to have a shot at possibly answering some questions and demonstrating printer setups and a couple of other things. We could use the installed machine for this since it will be a totally clean machine so there will be no surprises. Cheers! Bob ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Mon May 20 09:45:20 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: adelphia cable on linux In-Reply-To: <20020518202419.88067.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020520134520.32292.qmail@web13307.mail.yahoo.com> There are a bunch of things to check. First, do a 'netstat -rn' and make sure that you have a default route (destintation 0.0.0.0) that points to adelphia's router (typicall 24.x.x.x). If that's there, make sure that you have the right things in /etc/resolv.conf. You need to put a nameserver or two in there. Adelphia usually gives you a couple to use in their literature. I would recommend finding others to use since Adelphia's break a lot. It should work after these two things are working. Cheers! Bob --- umar wrote: > Hi, > > This is a rather simple problem, but for some reason > can't figure it out. > > Just got adelphia cable. Works fine in windows, but > doesn't in linux (Mandrake 8.0). I get the IP address > from dhcp server and it shows up when i do ifconfig, > but none of my browsers work. Is there any other thing > I need to configure? Thanks. > > Umar > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil Mon May 20 11:12:34 2002 From: WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil (Wechter, Ron) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: Computers for Sale Message-ID: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F1@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil>

Everyone,

I have about 5 Intel PII 333Mhz with 64MB RAM, Maxtor ATA100 PCI card, BCM mainboard (includes onboard graphics/USB/Sound etc), 10/100 network cards (SMC or 3Com) computers I am looking to get rid of. Only 1 main issue - They have NO hard drives -- They work PERFECTLY and have been recently taken out of service from one of my contracts. Im not looking to make a killing but make enough to upgrade my linux machine at home (Which means Ill also swap hardware for hardware).

Sincerely,

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

From dadneumann at adelphia.net Mon May 20 12:40:30 2002 From: dadneumann at adelphia.net (Gregory J. Neumann) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: connection sharing issues In-Reply-To: <20020520013043.15471.qmail@web11301.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <009d01c2001d$0ea59760$1002a8c0@fatty> Are you using a "private" network for the XP boxes? I've found that sharing Adelphia is best when assigning local addresses for the LAN, rather than DHCP. It just seems to work better. I used FREESCO and SmoothWall GPL, so I'm not at all sure what Mandrake firewall would be doing. Be aware that no matter what the docs may say, there are grave security risks running a firewall as a service on a "production" work station! You'd be much better off grabbing one of Ron's P-II's and setting up a dedicated firewall ... Linux of course! -Greg -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of umar Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 21:31 To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: connection sharing issues Hi again, Well, the cable connection is now working. Just made the entry for namservers and all set. Now another problem I am having is that I want to share my connection with my roommates (they use XP). I run the internet connection sharing wizard (in Mandrake Control Center) and it says it's running. Now I am getting ip address in client computer but they can't browse any website. I tried to ping some websites and the URL seems to resolve but I am not getting any ping replies. Seems like my computer is blocking their requests. I disabled the firewall and reduced the security level to minimum, but that didn't solve the problem. Now get me out of this situation. Thanks. Umar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Mon May 20 12:54:37 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: Computers for Sale References: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F1@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <002401c2001f$0daca680$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Wechter, Ron

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 11:12 AM

Subject: Computers for Sale

Everyone,

I have about 5 Intel PII 333Mhz with 64MB RAM, Maxtor ATA100 PCI card, BCM mainboard (includes onboard graphics/USB/Sound etc), 10/100 network cards (SMC or 3Com) computers I am looking to get rid of. Only 1 main issue - They have NO hard drives -- They work PERFECTLY and have been recently taken out of service from one of my contracts. Im not looking to make a killing but make enough to upgrade my linux machine at home (Which means Ill also swap hardware for hardware).

Sincerely,

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

I might be interested in one how much are you asking?

Ron:)

From umar99 at yahoo.com Mon May 20 13:21:33 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: Computers for Sale In-Reply-To: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F1@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <20020520172133.83669.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> how much for one? --- "Wechter, Ron" wrote: > Everyone, > > I have about 5 Intel PII 333Mhz with 64MB RAM, > Maxtor ATA100 PCI card, BCM > mainboard (includes onboard graphics/USB/Sound etc), > 10/100 network cards > (SMC or 3Com) computers I am looking to get rid of. > Only 1 main issue - > They have NO hard drives -- They work PERFECTLY and > have been recently taken > out of service from one of my contracts. Im not > looking to make a killing > but make enough to upgrade my linux machine at home > (Which means Ill also > swap hardware for hardware). > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Ronald K. Wechter > NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From umar99 at yahoo.com Mon May 20 13:24:49 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: Computers for Sale In-Reply-To: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F1@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <20020520172449.3857.qmail@web11304.mail.yahoo.com> also, i hope they do have floppy drives. --- "Wechter, Ron" wrote: > Everyone, > > I have about 5 Intel PII 333Mhz with 64MB RAM, > Maxtor ATA100 PCI card, BCM > mainboard (includes onboard graphics/USB/Sound etc), > 10/100 network cards > (SMC or 3Com) computers I am looking to get rid of. > Only 1 main issue - > They have NO hard drives -- They work PERFECTLY and > have been recently taken > out of service from one of my contracts. Im not > looking to make a killing > but make enough to upgrade my linux machine at home > (Which means Ill also > swap hardware for hardware). > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Ronald K. Wechter > NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Mon May 20 13:27:28 2002 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:13 2005 Subject: Computers for Sale In-Reply-To: <20020520172449.3857.qmail@web11304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hmmm..... 333Mhz is just fast enough to run Quake3 on. Me thinks I might have found a new use for my Voodoo3 >:) -Rob > also, i hope they do have floppy drives. > > > --- "Wechter, Ron" wrote: > > Everyone, > > > > I have about 5 Intel PII 333Mhz with 64MB RAM, > > Maxtor ATA100 PCI card, BCM > > mainboard (includes onboard graphics/USB/Sound etc), > > 10/100 network cards > > (SMC or 3Com) computers I am looking to get rid of. > > Only 1 main issue - > > They have NO hard drives -- They work PERFECTLY and > > have been recently taken > > out of service from one of my contracts. Im not > > looking to make a killing > > but make enough to upgrade my linux machine at home > > (Which means Ill also > > swap hardware for hardware). > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > Ronald K. Wechter > > NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator > > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > > (716) 551-4901 > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > Dege So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny .... If They Weren't Happening To Me From linux at snowbeam.dyndns.org Mon May 20 12:52:23 2002 From: linux at snowbeam.dyndns.org ([Darth] Snowbeam) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: Computers for Sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: mmmm, I need a test machine. As has been asked, how much? FreeBSD and Xp can now be tested :) On Mon, 20 May 2002, Robert Dege wrote: > > > Hmmm..... 333Mhz is just fast enough to run Quake3 on. Me thinks I might > have found a new use for my Voodoo3 >:) > > -Rob > > > also, i hope they do have floppy drives. > > > > > > --- "Wechter, Ron" wrote: > > > Everyone, > > > > > > I have about 5 Intel PII 333Mhz with 64MB RAM, > > > Maxtor ATA100 PCI card, BCM > > > mainboard (includes onboard graphics/USB/Sound etc), > > > 10/100 network cards > > > (SMC or 3Com) computers I am looking to get rid of. > > > Only 1 main issue - > > > They have NO hard drives -- They work PERFECTLY and > > > have been recently taken > > > out of service from one of my contracts. Im not > > > looking to make a killing > > > but make enough to upgrade my linux machine at home > > > (Which means Ill also > > > swap hardware for hardware). > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ronald K. Wechter > > > NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator > > > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > > > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > > > (716) 551-4901 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > > http://launch.yahoo.com > > > > > > Dege > > So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny > .... If They Weren't Happening To Me > -- --------- - [Darth] Snowbeam "It is not fear that keeps the elephant wary of the mouse, it is his wisdom that reminds him not to underestimate his opponent" -me From WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil Mon May 20 14:27:28 2002 From: WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil (Wechter, Ron) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: FW: Video Capturing Message-ID: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F6@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil>

Has anyone ever captured Video (VCR tapes) and put them to VCD format in Linux. So far all of the Windows capture cards/software need SCSI and my linux server is the ONLY system at my house that has SCSI. Also I think the performance would be superior than Windowds :)

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

From WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil Mon May 20 14:25:53 2002 From: WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil (Wechter, Ron) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: Puters for sale Message-ID: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F4@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil>

Everyone,

WOW - did not think I would get the response I did. I will get more info on these machines now that I see lots o peeps are interested.

Here are some answers for some of the questions - They ALL have floppy drives/They are ALL ATX setups/ ALL have power supplies (not sure on the wattage) / ALL are BCM mainboards (not docmentation on exactly what type of mainboards they are but I know BCM only has 2 or 3 PII mainboards.

Knowing that with linux you need to know ALL hardware info in order to have a flawless setup I will do what I can do get the numbers. These were older CompUSA machines (so if anyone worked there before they may know more than what I do) and CompUSA has no way of looking up the serials numbers (already tried that).

These machines "will" be a challenge. I will, knowing that all Nflug members are interested, hold on to the exclusively for the NFlug and bring them to the next meeting.

Remember that I WILL take hardware trades - I need hardware more than I need the money - In fact it is getting hard to find older system parts now :(

IMPORTANT - EVERYONE email me at niterav@adelphia.net on questions - Im moving on to a new job this week! WOOHOO!

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

From shipdadip at adelphia.net Mon May 20 14:41:20 2002 From: shipdadip at adelphia.net (shipdadip) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: Puters for sale In-Reply-To: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F4@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID:

I want one too!!

From shipdadip at adelphia.net Mon May 20 14:43:00 2002 From: shipdadip at adelphia.net (shipdadip) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: Computers for Sale In-Reply-To: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F1@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID:

what are you looking for interms of hardware?

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Wechter, Ron
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 11:13 AM
To: nflug@nflug.org
Subject: Computers for Sale

Everyone,

I have about 5 Intel PII 333Mhz with 64MB RAM, Maxtor ATA100 PCI card, BCM mainboard (includes onboard graphics/USB/Sound etc), 10/100 network cards (SMC or 3Com) computers I am looking to get rid of. Only 1 main issue - They have NO hard drives -- They work PERFECTLY and have been recently taken out of service from one of my contracts. Im not looking to make a killing but make enough to upgrade my linux machine at home (Which means Ill also swap hardware for hardware).

Sincerely,

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Mon May 20 14:55:36 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: Puters for sale References: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F4@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <000d01c2002f$ee7c9480$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Wechter, Ron

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 2:25 PM

Subject: Puters for sale

Everyone,

WOW - did not think I would get the response I did. I will get more info on these machines now that I see lots o peeps are interested.

Here are some answers for some of the questions - They ALL have floppy drives/They are ALL ATX setups/ ALL have power supplies (not sure on the wattage) / ALL are BCM mainboards (not docmentation on exactly what type of mainboards they are but I know BCM only has 2 or 3 PII mainboards.

Knowing that with linux you need to know ALL hardware info in order to have a flawless setup I will do what I can do get the numbers. These were older CompUSA machines (so if anyone worked there before they may know more than what I do) and CompUSA has no way of looking up the serials numbers (already tried that).

These machines "will" be a challenge. I will, knowing that all Nflug members are interested, hold on to the exclusively for the NFlug and bring them to the next meeting.

Remember that I WILL take hardware trades - I need hardware more than I need the money - In fact it is getting hard to find older system parts now :(

IMPORTANT - EVERYONE email me at niterav@adelphia.net on questions - Im moving on to a new job this week! WOOHOO!

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

What do you need as far as parts go and we'll see if we can trade.

If not e-mail me as to how much you want for one box.

I could use a router box soon. i most likely have everything I need to set one up right now!

except the box it self.

havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

Ron

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Mon May 20 15:04:39 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: Puters for sale References: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F4@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <002601c20031$32a0ed40$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Wechter, Ron

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 2:25 PM

Subject: Puters for sale

Everyone,

WOW - did not think I would get the response I did. I will get more info on these machines now that I see lots o peeps are interested.

Here are some answers for some of the questions - They ALL have floppy drives/They are ALL ATX setups/ ALL have power supplies (not sure on the wattage) / ALL are BCM mainboards (not docmentation on exactly what type of mainboards they are but I know BCM only has 2 or 3 PII mainboards.

Knowing that with linux you need to know ALL hardware info in order to have a flawless setup I will do what I can do get the numbers. These were older CompUSA machines (so if anyone worked there before they may know more than what I do) and CompUSA has no way of looking up the serials numbers (already tried that).

These machines "will" be a challenge. I will, knowing that all Nflug members are interested, hold on to the exclusively for the NFlug and bring them to the next meeting.

Remember that I WILL take hardware trades - I need hardware more than I need the money - In fact it is getting hard to find older system parts now :(

IMPORTANT - EVERYONE email me at niterav@adelphia.net on questions - Im moving on to a new job this week! WOOHOO!

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

Well you might have to auction them off at the next meeting dude so many of us are interested in them. And speaking of an auction how's about NFLUG doing a sell your junk sale somewhere or start up some kind of trading post here on the list for people who have a buy or sell list to offer other members. Just a thought? Also we can advertise somehow or someway to the public as to somewhere to sell or trade your stuff since legacy equipment is getting as hard to find as a hen's teeth.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From peter at thecybersource.com Mon May 20 15:11:40 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: printing in an NT Server enviro Message-ID: <1021921900.15520.15.camel@Office> Hello all,
I have a Mandrake 8.2 box that I drop into an NT Server office that Netbui protocol for printing. The server does have an address of 101.101.10.50/255.255.0.0. The have a WINS server address of 101.101.10.1. From the Linux box I can ping the WINS server address but not the machine's address (.50). From the NT box, I can ping my Linux box. What needs to be done to print through this server to a printer on the network? I remember reading on here before about this but forgot. I believe you have to authenticate somehow right? All thoughts and ideas are GREATLY appreciated. I've got my foot in the door with Linux but hardly a good sell when you can't print. Thanks

From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Mon May 20 16:01:40 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: printing in an NT Server enviro In-Reply-To: <1021921900.15520.15.camel@Office> Message-ID: <20020520200140.67788.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Well, if you want to print from Linux to the WinNT printer, go into 'kups' or under Configuration->Printing->CUPS WWW Admin Tool and configure a printer for SMB. You will get a place to enter username and password information in either of them. If NT has enabled guest access, you won't need to login to the domain to print. If you don't have guest access, uncheck the 'Guest Account' button and put in a username and password. The next screen will allow you to set the domain, server, printer name. Put in the printer type and all should be well. I've done this with several different config tools and they all work. Hope this helps... Cheers! Bob' --- Cyber Source wrote: > Hello all, > I have a Mandrake 8.2 box that I drop into an NT Server office that > Netbui protocol for printing. The server does have an address of > 101.101.10.50/255.255.0.0. The have a WINS server address of > 101.101.10.1. From the Linux box I can ping the WINS server address but > not the machine's address (.50). From the NT box, I can ping my Linux > box. What needs to be done to print through this server to a printer on > the network? I remember reading on here before about this but forgot. I > believe you have to authenticate somehow right? All thoughts and ideas > are GREATLY appreciated. I've got my foot in the door with Linux but > hardly a good sell when you can't print. Thanks > > > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil Mon May 20 16:04:44 2002 From: WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil (Wechter, Ron) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: FW: Puters 4 Sale Message-ID: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F8@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil>

WOOHOO - Well the BIOS at startup states it is a KR636 mainboard BUT when I go to www.bcmcom.com this board does NOT exist. Looking further at EACH main board I say a picture for the IN 440EX-D mainboard that has the KR636 stamp on it. All of the specs match and this picture is EXACT as to what is in the box. So this PDF should answer ALL questions.

http://sherman2k.buffnet.net/IN440EXD/IN_440EXD_Documentation.pdf

Sincerely,

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

From umar99 at yahoo.com Mon May 20 16:23:17 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: connection sharing issues Message-ID: <20020520202317.48597.qmail@web11307.mail.yahoo.com> seems like it was burried under "computers for sale" extravaganza. But I need to find a solution to this problem. Right now I am running the NAT server on Win98 and I want to get back to linux ASAP (can't stand the sight of windows I guess). So this is high priority. Thanks again. Umar --- umar wrote: > From umar Sun May 19 18:30:43 2002 > Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 18:30:43 -0700 (PDT) > From: umar > Subject: connection sharing issues > To: nflug@nflug.org > Reply-to: nflug@nflug.org > > Hi again, > > Well, the cable connection is now working. Just made > the entry for namservers and all set. Now another > problem I am having is that I want to share my > connection with my roommates (they use XP). I run > the > internet connection sharing wizard (in Mandrake > Control Center) and it says it's running. Now I am > getting ip address in client computer but they can't > browse any website. I tried to ping some websites > and > the URL seems to resolve but I am not getting any > ping > replies. Seems like my computer is blocking their > requests. I disabled the firewall and reduced the > security level to minimum, but that didn't solve the > problem. Now get me out of this situation. Thanks. > > Umar > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From peter at thecybersource.com Mon May 20 16:47:06 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: printing in an NT Server enviro In-Reply-To: <20020520200140.67788.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020520200140.67788.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1021927626.15636.5.camel@Office> Thanks Bob, I'm getting errors when I tried to run kups. I think something happened when I added KDE3. The system controls are giving me errors.
On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 16:01, Robert Meyer wrote:

Well, if you want to print from Linux to the WinNT printer, go into 'kups'
or under Configuration->Printing->CUPS WWW Admin Tool and
configure a printer for SMB.  You will get a place to enter username and
password information in either of them.  If NT has enabled guest access,
you won't need to login to the domain to print.  If you don't have guest
access, uncheck the 'Guest Account' button and put in a username and
password.  The next screen will allow you to set the domain, server, printer
name.  Put in the printer type and all should be well.  I've done this with
several different config tools and they all work.

Hope this helps...

Cheers!

Bob'
--- Cyber Source <peter@thecybersource.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>   I have a Mandrake 8.2 box that I drop into an NT Server office that
> Netbui protocol for printing. The server does have an address of
> 101.101.10.50/255.255.0.0. The have a WINS server address of
> 101.101.10.1. From the Linux box I can ping the WINS server address but
> not the machine's address (.50). From the NT box, I can ping my Linux
> box. What needs to be done to print through this server to a printer on
> the network? I remember reading on here before about this but forgot. I
> believe you have to authenticate somehow right? All thoughts and ideas
> are GREATLY appreciated. I've got my foot in the door with Linux but
> hardly a good sell when you can't print. Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> 

=====
Bob Meyer
Knightwing Communications, Inc.
36 Cayuga Blvd
Depew, NY 14043
Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076
Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience

http://launch.yahoo.com

From peter at thecybersource.com Mon May 20 16:49:44 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: Puters for sale In-Reply-To: <002601c20031$32a0ed40$f43afea9@celeronbox> References: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F4@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> <002601c20031$32a0ed40$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <1021927784.15625.7.camel@Office> If anyone is ever looking for legacy stuff, let me know, I've got boxes of it.
On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 15:04, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Wechter, Ron
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 2:25 PM
Subject: Puters for sale

Everyone,

WOW - did not think I would get the response I did. I will get more info on these machines now that I see lots o peeps are interested.

Here are some answers for some of the questions - They ALL have floppy drives/They are ALL ATX setups/ ALL have power supplies (not sure on the wattage) / ALL are BCM mainboards (not docmentation on exactly what type of mainboards they are but I know BCM only has 2 or 3 PII mainboards.

Knowing that with linux you need to know ALL hardware info in order to have a flawless setup I will do what I can do get the numbers. These were older CompUSA machines (so if anyone worked there before they may know more than what I do) and CompUSA has no way of looking up the serials numbers (already tried that).

These machines "will" be a challenge. I will, knowing that all Nflug members are interested, hold on to the exclusively for the NFlug and bring them to the next meeting.

Remember that I WILL take hardware trades - I need hardware more than I need the money - In fact it is getting hard to find older system parts now :(

IMPORTANT - EVERYONE email me at niterav@adelphia.net on questions - Im moving on to a new job this week! WOOHOO!

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

Well you might have to auction them off at the next meeting dude so many of us are interested in them. And speaking of an auction how's about NFLUG doing a sell your junk sale somewhere or start up some kind of trading post here on the list for people who have a buy or sell list to offer other members. Just a thought? Also we can advertise somehow or someway to the public as to somewhere to sell or trade your stuff since legacy equipment is getting as hard to find as a hen's teeth.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Mon May 20 19:55:46 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: Puters for sale References: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F4@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> <002601c20031$32a0ed40$f43afea9@celeronbox> <1021927784.15625.7.camel@Office> Message-ID: <001501c20059$dcab5320$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Cyber Source

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:49 PM

Subject: Re: Puters for sale

If anyone is ever looking for legacy stuff, let me know, I've got boxes of it.

Do you have any 50 pin scsi drives any size full form is ok also as well. I'm also looking for a drive tower for them? How's about KVM unites even if manual! ps/2 or dimm? Also looking for scsi active terminals for 50 pin connectors. I'm trying to get my DEC Alpha 233Mhz up but can also try to get the other 166Mhz unit up as well. My need for a KVM! or two of em, I have two other systems you see. This is my wish list.

Ron

On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 15:04, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Wechter, Ron
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 2:25 PM
Subject: Puters for sale

Everyone,

WOW - did not think I would get the response I did. I will get more info on these machines now that I see lots o peeps are interested.

Here are some answers for some of the questions - They ALL have floppy drives/They are ALL ATX setups/ ALL have power supplies (not sure on the wattage) / ALL are BCM mainboards (not docmentation on exactly what type of mainboards they are but I know BCM only has 2 or 3 PII mainboards.

Knowing that with linux you need to know ALL hardware info in order to have a flawless setup I will do what I can do get the numbers. These were older CompUSA machines (so if anyone worked there before they may know more than what I do) and CompUSA has no way of looking up the serials numbers (already tried that).

These machines "will" be a challenge. I will, knowing that all Nflug members are interested, hold on to the exclusively for the NFlug and bring them to the next meeting.

Remember that I WILL take hardware trades - I need hardware more than I need the money - In fact it is getting hard to find older system parts now :(

IMPORTANT - EVERYONE email me at niterav@adelphia.net on questions - Im moving on to a new job this week! WOOHOO!

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

Well you might have to auction them off at the next meeting dude so many of us are interested in them. And speaking of an auction how's about NFLUG doing a sell your junk sale somewhere or start up some kind of trading post here on the list for people who have a buy or sell list to offer other members. Just a thought? Also we can advertise somehow or someway to the public as to somewhere to sell or trade your stuff since legacy equipment is getting as hard to find as a hen's teeth.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From peter at thecybersource.com Mon May 20 21:51:38 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: Puters for sale In-Reply-To: <001501c20059$dcab5320$f43afea9@celeronbox> References: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F4@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> <002601c20031$32a0ed40$f43afea9@celeronbox> <1021927784.15625.7.camel@Office> <001501c20059$dcab5320$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <1021945902.2366.10.camel@Office> >From last memory, I may have the following:
1 or 2 kvm's
not much scsi stuff, couple cables, maybe a terminator or 2 (50pin)
have alot of old cases, mostly AT or proprietary atx (packard hell, compaq)
Have tons of old video cards (even that crazy period of vesa local bus), sound cards, modems, nics, ide drives, 30pin simms (all 1mb i believe)
socket 7, 486, 386, 8088 mb's
One of these days, after I'm done with my house, I will take the time to inventory all the old stuff,
also, have tons of at switching power supplys, switched power supplies (pads)
If you really need something, send me an email and I will dig it out if I got it
On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 19:55, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: Puters for sale

If anyone is ever looking for legacy stuff, let me know, I've got boxes of it.

Do you have any 50 pin scsi drives any size full form is ok also as well. I'm also looking for a drive tower for them? How's about KVM unites even if manual! ps/2 or dimm? Also looking for scsi active terminals for 50 pin connectors. I'm trying to get my DEC Alpha 233Mhz up but can also try to get the other 166Mhz unit up as well. My need for a KVM! or two of em, I have two other systems you see. This is my wish list.

Ron

On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 15:04, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Wechter, Ron
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 2:25 PM
Subject: Puters for sale

Everyone,

WOW - did not think I would get the response I did. I will get more info on these machines now that I see lots o peeps are interested.

Here are some answers for some of the questions - They ALL have floppy drives/They are ALL ATX setups/ ALL have power supplies (not sure on the wattage) / ALL are BCM mainboards (not docmentation on exactly what type of mainboards they are but I know BCM only has 2 or 3 PII mainboards.

Knowing that with linux you need to know ALL hardware info in order to have a flawless setup I will do what I can do get the numbers. These were older CompUSA machines (so if anyone worked there before they may know more than what I do) and CompUSA has no way of looking up the serials numbers (already tried that).

These machines "will" be a challenge. I will, knowing that all Nflug members are interested, hold on to the exclusively for the NFlug and bring them to the next meeting.

Remember that I WILL take hardware trades - I need hardware more than I need the money - In fact it is getting hard to find older system parts now :(

IMPORTANT - EVERYONE email me at niterav@adelphia.net on questions - Im moving on to a new job this week! WOOHOO!

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

Well you might have to auction them off at the next meeting dude so many of us are interested in them. And speaking of an auction how's about NFLUG doing a sell your junk sale somewhere or start up some kind of trading post here on the list for people who have a buy or sell list to offer other members. Just a thought? Also we can advertise somehow or someway to the public as to somewhere to sell or trade your stuff since legacy equipment is getting as hard to find as a hen's teeth.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Tue May 21 06:21:04 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: Puters for sale References: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F4@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil><002601c20031$32a0ed40$f43afea9@celeronbox><1021927784.15625.7.camel@Office> <001501c20059$dcab5320$f43afea9@celeronbox> <1021945902.2366.10.camel@Office> Message-ID: <000d01c200b1$37c209f0$da00590c@hswtcrs689918u>

----- Original Message -----

From: Cyber Source

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:51 PM

Subject: Re: Puters for sale

From last memory, I may have the following:
1 or 2 kvm's
not much scsi stuff, couple cables, maybe a terminator or 2 (50pin)
have alot of old cases, mostly AT or proprietary atx (packard hell, compaq)
Have tons of old video cards (even that crazy period of vesa local bus), sound cards, modems, nics, ide drives, 30pin simms (all 1mb i believe)
socket 7, 486, 386, 8088 mb's
One of these days, after I'm done with my house, I will take the time to inventory all the old stuff,
also, have tons of at switching power supplys, switched power supplies (pads)
If you really need something, send me an email and I will dig it out if I got it

Well the KVM on or both if you don't need them. Also do they work? I could also use 1 scsi active 50 pin terminator would help let me know what you want for them.

Ron:)

On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 19:55, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: Puters for sale

If anyone is ever looking for legacy stuff, let me know, I've got boxes of it.

Do you have any 50 pin scsi drives any size full form is ok also as well. I'm also looking for a drive tower for them? How's about KVM unites even if manual! ps/2 or dimm? Also looking for scsi active terminals for 50 pin connectors. I'm trying to get my DEC Alpha 233Mhz up but can also try to get the other 166Mhz unit up as well. My need for a KVM! or two of em, I have two other systems you see. This is my wish list.

Ron

On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 15:04, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Wechter, Ron
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 2:25 PM
Subject: Puters for sale

Everyone,

WOW - did not think I would get the response I did. I will get more info on these machines now that I see lots o peeps are interested.

Here are some answers for some of the questions - They ALL have floppy drives/They are ALL ATX setups/ ALL have power supplies (not sure on the wattage) / ALL are BCM mainboards (not docmentation on exactly what type of mainboards they are but I know BCM only has 2 or 3 PII mainboards.

Knowing that with linux you need to know ALL hardware info in order to have a flawless setup I will do what I can do get the numbers. These were older CompUSA machines (so if anyone worked there before they may know more than what I do) and CompUSA has no way of looking up the serials numbers (already tried that).

These machines "will" be a challenge. I will, knowing that all Nflug members are interested, hold on to the exclusively for the NFlug and bring them to the next meeting.

Remember that I WILL take hardware trades - I need hardware more than I need the money - In fact it is getting hard to find older system parts now :(

IMPORTANT - EVERYONE email me at niterav@adelphia.net on questions - Im moving on to a new job this week! WOOHOO!

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

Well you might have to auction them off at the next meeting dude so many of us are interested in them. And speaking of an auction how's about NFLUG doing a sell your junk sale somewhere or start up some kind of trading post here on the list for people who have a buy or sell list to offer other members. Just a thought? Also we can advertise somehow or someway to the public as to somewhere to sell or trade your stuff since legacy equipment is getting as hard to find as a hen's teeth.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Tue May 21 08:24:56 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: printing in an NT Server enviro In-Reply-To: <1021927626.15636.5.camel@Office> Message-ID: <20020521122456.10452.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> --- Cyber Source wrote: > Thanks Bob, I'm getting errors when I tried to run kups. I think > something happened when I added KDE3. The system controls are giving me > errors. I get errors, too but it doesn't seem to affect the operation of the program (didn't try to save changes, though). Does your kups start up and give you a window? If you can't get that to work, use the web base printer admin tool. It should have all of the same functionality, just in a different format. Cheers! Bob ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From peter at thecybersource.com Tue May 21 08:54:10 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: printing in an NT Server enviro In-Reply-To: <20020521122456.10452.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020521122456.10452.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1021985650.5063.7.camel@Office> I couldn't connect to the www cups admin tool. I am going to bring the system back here and redo it without doing the kde3 update (i'm not good enough to hack through this yet). I am also going to bring back there server here because they want me to clean it out, etc., so I can experiment with it here in the shop. As on my office computer, I have no kups at all, even did a locate for it and only found 1 file in the kde3 folder. I also did a search using the software mangler and could not find it installed or not installed and even have the mandrake update site in my sources, I'm sure there must be some very logical explanation for that one, but it's got me stumped.
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 08:24, Robert Meyer wrote:

--- Cyber Source <peter@thecybersource.com> wrote:
> Thanks Bob, I'm getting errors when I tried to run kups. I think
> something happened when I added KDE3. The system controls are giving me
> errors.

I get errors, too but it doesn't seem to affect the operation of the program
(didn't
try to save changes, though).  Does your kups start up and give you a window?

If you can't get that to work, use the web base printer admin tool.  It should
have
all of the same functionality, just in a different format.

Cheers!

Bob

=====
Bob Meyer
Knightwing Communications, Inc.
36 Cayuga Blvd
Depew, NY 14043
Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076
Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com

__________________________________________________
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From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Tue May 21 09:20:16 2002 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: FW: Video Capturing In-Reply-To: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F6@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: This is one of my future pet projects. I don't recall coming across any SCSI requirements when investigating Video capture, but that may be more on the VCD end since it includes CD-burning. The linux kernel is capable of taking an IDE device (ie: CD-Burner) & emulating it as a SCSI device so that the cdrecording utils can use it. That's how I have it setup at home right now, and it works without any known flaws. -Rob > Has anyone ever captured Video (VCR tapes) and put them to VCD format in > Linux. So far all of the Windows capture cards/software need SCSI and my > linux server is the ONLY system at my house that has SCSI. Also I think the > performance would be superior than Windowds :) > > > > > Ronald K. Wechter > NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > Dege So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny .... If They Weren't Happening To Me From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Tue May 21 09:54:35 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: printing in an NT Server enviro In-Reply-To: <1021985650.5063.7.camel@Office> Message-ID: <20020521135435.14724.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> --- Cyber Source wrote: > I couldn't connect to the www cups admin tool. I am going to bring the > system back here and redo it without doing the kde3 update (i'm not good > enough to hack through this yet). I am also going to bring back there > server here because they want me to clean it out, etc., so I can > experiment with it here in the shop. As on my office computer, I have no > kups at all, even did a locate for it and only found 1 file in the kde3 > folder. I also did a search using the software mangler and could not > find it installed or not installed and even have the mandrake update > site in my sources, I'm sure there must be some very logical explanation > for that one, but it's got me stumped. > On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 08:24, Robert Meyer wrote: It's starting to look to me like you don't have cups installed or running. It is supposed to listen on port 631 on localhost for connections from a browser. Look for /etc/cups and see if you have the config files. Also, make sure that you have cups enabled as a server in the current init level. It has nothing to do with KDE. I'm not sure how the system was installed but if you don't define a printer on the install, it may not install cups. I know that the cups drivers don't get installed until you define a printer. Give that a check before rebuilding the box. Besides, I've found that when you just rebuild a box that's not doing what you want, you lose the opportunity to learn why it wasn't right. I relish the learning experience when something whacks out and I have to figger out what happened. There are actually very few occasions that require a reinstall of the O/S in Linux. In fact, there are very few reasons to actually reboot a Linux system. Cheers! Bob ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From peter at thecybersource.com Tue May 21 10:21:29 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: printing in an NT Server enviro In-Reply-To: <20020521135435.14724.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020521135435.14724.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1021990889.5062.45.camel@Office> Thanks Bob. I too would rather figure it out but time is not on my side. The reason I really wanted to redo things without kde3 is that something happens where say changing system configs in the control panel give errors and don't take affect. I believe the problem is with PATH but would rather first find out what the system looks at to boot a particular GUI and where the files may be. After doing the kde3 update I saw that it said it was important to add (i believe) /opt/kde3/bin to the path, that's why the other day I was asking about permanent additions to the path. Gotta run....to be continued..........
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 09:54, Robert Meyer wrote:

--- Cyber Source <peter@thecybersource.com> wrote:
> I couldn't connect to the www cups admin tool. I am going to bring the
> system back here and redo it without doing the kde3 update (i'm not good
> enough to hack through this yet). I am also going to bring back there
> server here because they want me to clean it out, etc., so I can
> experiment with it here in the shop. As on my office computer, I have no
> kups at all, even did a locate for it and only found 1 file in the kde3
> folder. I also did a search using the software mangler and could not
> find it installed or not installed and even have the mandrake update
> site in my sources, I'm sure there must be some very logical explanation
> for that one, but it's got me stumped.
> On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 08:24, Robert Meyer wrote:

It's starting to look to me like you don't have cups installed or running.
It is supposed to listen on port 631 on localhost for connections from a
browser.
Look for /etc/cups and see if you have the config files.  Also, make sure that
you have cups enabled as a server in the current init level.  It has nothing
to do with KDE.

I'm not sure how the system was installed but if you don't define a printer
on the install, it may not install cups.  I know that the cups drivers
don't get installed until you define a printer.

Give that a check before rebuilding the box.  Besides, I've found that when
you just rebuild a box that's not doing what you want, you lose the
opportunity to learn why it wasn't right.  I relish the learning experience
when something whacks out and I have to figger out what happened.
There are actually very few occasions that require a reinstall of the O/S
in Linux.  In fact, there are very few reasons to actually reboot a Linux
system.

Cheers!

Bob

=====
Bob Meyer
Knightwing Communications, Inc.
36 Cayuga Blvd
Depew, NY 14043
Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076
Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com

__________________________________________________
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LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience

http://launch.yahoo.com

From todd at phyberoptiks.net Tue May 21 10:51:29 2002 From: todd at phyberoptiks.net (Todd Wirth) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: FW: Video Capturing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000401c200d6$fd8fb450$02fea8c0@pepsi> I deleted the original message, and my reply may not do you any good but... You can download RealProducer Basic (free version) for Linux and encode video into RealVideo files (also add the server to stream content). Here's a link just in case you're interested. I have, and still use this (although in Windoze enviroment) for some of my video feeds at work. Our slowest 'live' video server is a AMD K6-2 500mhz w/ 256mb and IDE runs 24/7. http://www.realnetworks.com/products/producer/basic.html -- Todd -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Robert Dege Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 9:20 AM To: 'nflug@nflug.org' Subject: Re: FW: Video Capturing This is one of my future pet projects. I don't recall coming across any SCSI requirements when investigating Video capture, but that may be more on the VCD end since it includes CD-burning. The linux kernel is capable of taking an IDE device (ie: CD-Burner) & emulating it as a SCSI device so that the cdrecording utils can use it. That's how I have it setup at home right now, and it works without any known flaws. -Rob > Has anyone ever captured Video (VCR tapes) and put them to VCD format in > Linux. So far all of the Windows capture cards/software need SCSI and my > linux server is the ONLY system at my house that has SCSI. Also I think the > performance would be superior than Windowds :) > > > > > Ronald K. Wechter > NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > Dege So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny .... If They Weren't Happening To Me From WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil Tue May 21 14:22:05 2002 From: WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil (Wechter, Ron) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: JOB POSTING Message-ID: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8FC@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil>

TO ANY INTERESTED PERSONS:

There is a Network Administrator/Assistant Systems Administration position currently open. The ideal candidate is one that has:

Basic networking knowledge (hubs, switches, Cable/DSL routers)
Experience installing/configuring/troubleshooting Windows NT 4.0, Windows 98, Windows 2000 in a Server Client Environment
Basic knowledge of laptops (PCMCIA, dongles, etc)
PC Hardware Knowledge (Are you comfortable with replacing parts within a PC?)
Does not mind documenting everything that you do and does not mind doing basic hardware inventory as machines come and go within the District.
Some travel (Furthest I've been was Albany) across NY State
Good communication and Phone skills (The better the phone skills that you have with troubleshooting problems the less you travel!)
...and you are comfortable working in a Military environment

I have had lots of good times here and Navy Recruiting District (NRD) Buffalo is in dire need of a"tech". I can't talk about pay but it is very competitive! This job is contract which means you will be an "at will" employee and the contract renews annually.

IF INTERESTED call Winkie Hayes at 716-551-4998 Ext. 20 or email your cover letter and resume to hayesw@cnrc.navy.mil .

Sincerely,

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

From WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil Tue May 21 14:25:34 2002 From: WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil (Wechter, Ron) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: JOB POSTING - UPDATED!!! Message-ID: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8FD@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil>

TO ANY INTERESTED PERSONS:

There is a Network Administrator/Assistant Systems Administration position currently open. The ideal candidate is one that has:

Web developement
Basic networking knowledge (hubs, switches, Cable/DSL routers)
Experience installing/configuring/troubleshooting Windows NT 4.0, Windows 98, Windows 2000 in a Server Client Environment
Basic knowledge of laptops (PCMCIA, dongles, etc)
PC Hardware Knowledge (Are you comfortable with replacing parts within a PC?)
Does not mind documenting everything that you do and does not mind doing basic hardware inventory as machines come and go within the District.
Some travel (Furthest I've been was Albany) across NY State
Good communication and Phone skills (The better the phone skills that you have with troubleshooting problems the less you travel!)
...and you are comfortable working in a Military environment

IF INTERESTED call Winkie Hayes at 716-551-4998 Ext. 21 or email your cover letter and resume to hayesw@cnrc.navy.mil .

Sincerely,

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

From peter at thecybersource.com Tue May 21 15:05:25 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: JOB POSTING In-Reply-To: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8FC@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> References: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8FC@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <1022007925.5391.5.camel@Office> I might be interested, depending on the hours required. I am a Navy Vet, used to work down there before I got discharged, circa 1979. I will read this later. Thanks,
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 14:22, Wechter, Ron wrote:

TO ANY INTERESTED PERSONS:

There is a Network Administrator/Assistant Systems Administration position currently open. The ideal candidate is one that has:

Basic networking knowledge (hubs, switches, Cable/DSL routers)

Experience installing/configuring/troubleshooting Windows NT 4.0, Windows 98, Windows 2000 in a Server Client Environment

Basic knowledge of laptops (PCMCIA, dongles, etc)

PC Hardware Knowledge (Are you comfortable with replacing parts within a PC?)

Does not mind documenting everything that you do and does not mind doing basic hardware inventory as machines come and go within the District.

Some travel (Furthest I've been was Albany) across NY State

Good communication and Phone skills (The better the phone skills that you have with troubleshooting problems the less you travel!)

...and you are comfortable working in a Military environment

I have had lots of good times here and Navy Recruiting District (NRD) Buffalo is in dire need of a"tech". I can't talk about pay but it is very competitive! This job is contract which means you will be an "at will" employee and the contract renews annually.

IF INTERESTED call Winkie Hayes at 716-551-4998 Ext. 20 or email your cover letter and resume to hayesw@cnrc.navy.mil .

Sincerely,

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Tue May 21 15:14:54 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: JOB POSTING - UPDATED!!! In-Reply-To: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8FD@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <20020521191454.83288.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com> Any chance of converting them over from the 'Dark Side' to OpenSource? :-) Considering that governments around the world are migrating that way, maybe the Navy would be 'forward thinking'... Maybe not... :-) Cheers! Bob --- "Wechter, Ron" wrote: > > TO ANY INTERESTED PERSONS: > > There is a Network Administrator/Assistant Systems Administration position > currently open. The ideal candidate is one that has: > > * Web developement > > * Basic networking knowledge (hubs, switches, Cable/DSL routers) > > * Experience installing/configuring/troubleshooting Windows NT 4.0, > Windows 98, Windows 2000 in a Server Client Environment > > * Basic knowledge of laptops (PCMCIA, dongles, etc) > > * PC Hardware Knowledge (Are you comfortable with replacing parts > within a PC?) > > * Does not mind documenting everything that you do and does not mind > doing basic hardware inventory as machines come and go within the District. > > * Some travel (Furthest I've been was Albany) across NY State > > * Good communication and Phone skills (The better the phone skills > that you have with troubleshooting problems the less you travel!) > > * ...and you are comfortable working in a Military environment > > I have had lots of good times here and Navy Recruiting District (NRD) > Buffalo is in dire need of a"tech". I can't talk about pay but it is very > competitive! This job is contract which means you will be an "at will" > employee and the contract renews annually. > > > IF INTERESTED call Winkie Hayes at 716-551-4998 Ext. 21 or email your cover > letter and resume to hayesw@cnrc.navy.mil . > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Ronald K. Wechter > NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From jlukasiewicz at yahoo.com Wed May 22 12:01:38 2002 From: jlukasiewicz at yahoo.com (Joseph Lukasiewicz) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... Message-ID: <20020522160138.87526.qmail@web14207.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I've been poking around and managed to scare up some resources that I think could assist me (us) in getting the Alpha 2100 up and running.

It seems the controller card for the Raid is a MYLEX DAC960... I have some info on it including what I believe to be drivers and possible "instructions"...

Rather than just plop everything in the forum, I was wondering how to proceed? I think the kernel will need to be rebuilt, or the drivers recompiled, or the "recover" kernal made to some how recognize the drivers...

As you can tell, were starting to get a little beyond my level on this...Any ideas?

Joe Lukasiewicz

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LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Wed May 22 14:07:10 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... In-Reply-To: <20020522160138.87526.qmail@web14207.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020522180710.56876.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com> Well, most newer kernels in distributions don't need to be recompiled to support a 'standard' or well known device. A lot of the documentation for devices talk about building kernels, assuming that support isn't already there. I suspect that if you can get an install started, the RAID card will be recognized correctly. I just did an install of RedHat 7.2 on a brand new Compaq server with an integral RAID and it installed straight up, without any special handling, other than the Compaq utilities for initializing the array and installing Compaq Diagnostics. Probably should have the same situation with an Alpha processor distribution from one of the main vendors. Cheers! Bob --- Joseph Lukasiewicz wrote: > > Hi, > > I've been poking around and managed to scare up some resources that I think > could assist me (us) in getting the Alpha 2100 up and running. > > It seems the controller card for the Raid is a MYLEX DAC960... I have some > info on it including what I believe to be drivers and possible > "instructions"... > > Rather than just plop everything in the forum, I was wondering how to > proceed? I think the kernel will need to be rebuilt, or the drivers > recompiled, or the "recover" kernal made to some how recognize the drivers... > > As you can tell, were starting to get a little beyond my level on this...Any > ideas? > > Joe Lukasiewicz > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Wed May 22 16:02:41 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... References: <20020522180710.56876.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005001c201cb$a221d3f0$6b01590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Meyer" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > Well, most newer kernels in distributions don't need to be recompiled to > support a 'standard' or well known device. A lot of the documentation > for devices talk about building kernels, assuming that support isn't already > there. I suspect that if you can get an install started, the RAID card > will be recognized correctly. I just did an install of RedHat 7.2 <--------------------------snip-----------------------------------------> True from what I've read fo far, but I think that RedHat 7.1 should install the same way with the same drivers already available in RedHat. The only thing is that the latest version of RedHat for Alpha's is 7.1. I would recommend RedHat since it is the most use and well knowen for Alpha's. Now mind you there are a few others out there. Have you read any of the info I zipped out to you and the group about Alpha's? I sent web site links and seved web pages stock full of info on the subject, but I will admit its mostly on the model I own. I does pertain to the subject generally. I have it and as I said I'll make a copy of it for you unless your going to downloaded it yourself. I had someone else download it for my because I only have dialup service. It is four full cd's worth! It would have taken me well over a week to download it with dialup service. Well if I can be of anymore assistance let me know. Ron:) on a brand > new Compaq server with an integral RAID and it installed straight up, without > any special handling, other than the Compaq utilities for initializing the > array and installing Compaq Diagnostics. > > Probably should have the same situation with an Alpha processor > distribution from one of the main vendors. > > Cheers! > > Bob > --- Joseph Lukasiewicz wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I've been poking around and managed to scare up some resources that I think > > could assist me (us) in getting the Alpha 2100 up and running. > > > > It seems the controller card for the Raid is a MYLEX DAC960... I have some > > info on it including what I believe to be drivers and possible > > "instructions"... > > > > Rather than just plop everything in the forum, I was wondering how to > > proceed? I think the kernel will need to be rebuilt, or the drivers > > recompiled, or the "recover" kernal made to some how recognize the drivers... > > > > As you can tell, were starting to get a little beyond my level on this...Any > > ideas? > > > > Joe Lukasiewicz > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do You Yahoo!? > > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > > ===== > Bob Meyer > Knightwing Communications, Inc. > 36 Cayuga Blvd > Depew, NY 14043 > Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 > Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Wed May 22 15:49:53 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:14 2005 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... References: <20020522160138.87526.qmail@web14207.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004a01c201c9$d863ab20$6b01590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Lukasiewicz To: Niagara Frontier Linux Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:01 PM Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... Hi, I've been poking around and managed to scare up some resources that I think could assist me (us) in getting the Alpha 2100 up and running. It seems the controller card for the Raid is a MYLEX DAC960... I have some info on it including what I believe to be drivers and possible "instructions"... Rather than just plop everything in the forum, I was wondering how to proceed? I think the kernel will need to be rebuilt, or the drivers recompiled, or the "recover" kernal made to some how recognize the drivers... As you can tell, were starting to get a little beyond my level on this...Any ideas? I wish I could help you but I need to see it in order to understand the in's and out's of it all! Ron Joe Lukasiewicz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020523/bc339c34/attachment.html From todd at phyberoptiks.net Wed May 22 17:55:01 2002 From: todd at phyberoptiks.net (Todd Wirth) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... In-Reply-To: <20020522213635.859.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001201c201db$52b16be0$02fea8c0@pepsi> On the subject of RedHat kernel having default support for a every SCSI adapter I disagree. We have a Dell server running RedHat 7.2, although I wasn't involved in the upgrade to a newer kernel (Dell provided), I know what happened through various emails between Dell and our other IT guy. They tried 2 stock RedHat kernels that did not work with our SCSI adapter, until finally the 3rd one did the trick. I was about to take over the project and just compile a kernel, but that would have voided our support w/ Dell & RedHat. I'm not too sure about the hardware as this server (besides a Xeon) is in a remote office, but I did see the email traffic, and you could tell the Dell guys were stumped. ;) -- Todd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020523/f134f575/attachment.html From jlukasiewicz at yahoo.com Wed May 22 17:36:35 2002 From: jlukasiewicz at yahoo.com (Joseph Lukasiewicz) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... In-Reply-To: <005001c201cb$a221d3f0$6b01590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> Message-ID: <20020522213635.859.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> Ronald (Ron), I read till my eyes bled...I was up till 3AM that night. Some of the info was unbelieveable - In fact it inspired me to look at a few other avenues. I'd like to get a copy of the Red Hat you have ... I just picked up blank CD's today. I know it sound like a little overload - BUT - perhaps we could do a dual load - BOTH Alpha's at the same time. Since yours is a desk top size perhaps we could arrange a date/time for a visit? I have a feeling though that the driver issue for the DAC960 Raid card may still come into play... Joe Lukasiewicz Ronald Maggio wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Meyer" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > Well, most newer kernels in distributions don't need to be recompiled to > support a 'standard' or well known device. A lot of the documentation > for devices talk about building kernels, assuming that support isn't already > there. I suspect that if you can get an install started, the RAID card > will be recognized correctly. I just did an install of RedHat 7.2 <--------------------------snip-----------------------------------------> True from what I've read fo far, but I think that RedHat 7.1 should install the same way with the same drivers already available in RedHat. The only thing is that the latest version of RedHat for Alpha's is 7.1. I would recommend RedHat since it is the most use and well knowen for Alpha's. Now mind you there are a few others out there. Have you read any of the info I zipped out to you and the group about Alpha's? I sent web site links and seved web pages stock full of info on the subject, but I will admit its mostly on the model I own. I does pertain to the subject generally. I have it and as I said I'll make a copy of it for you unless your going to downloaded it yourself. I had someone else download it for my because I only have dialup service. It is four full cd's worth! It would have taken me well over a week to download it with dialup service. Well if I can be of anymore assistance let me know. Ron:) on a brand > new Compaq server with an integral RAID and it installed straight up, without > any special handling, other than the Compaq utilities for initializing the > array and installing Compaq Diagnostics. > > Probably should have the same situation with an Alpha processor > distribution from one of the main vendors. > > Cheers! > > Bob > --- Joseph Lukasiewicz wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I've been poking around and managed to scare up some resources that I think > > could assist me (us) in getting the Alpha 2100 up and running. > > > > It seems the controller card for the Raid is a MYLEX DAC960... I have some > > info on it including what I believe to be drivers and possible > > "instructions"... > > > > Rather than just plop everything in the forum, I was wondering how to > > proceed? I think the kernel will need to be rebuilt, or the drivers > > recompiled, or the "recover" kernal made to some how recognize the drivers... > > > > As you can tell, were starting to get a little beyond my level on this...Any > > ideas? > > > > Joe Lukasiewicz > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do You Yahoo!? > > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > > ===== > Bob Meyer > Knightwing Communications, Inc. > 36 Cayuga Blvd > Depew, NY 14043 > Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 > Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020523/e4fa50d0/attachment.html From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Wed May 22 21:07:32 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... References: <20020522213635.859.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000f01c201f6$399bce50$eb00590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Lukasiewicz To: nflug@nflug.org Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... Ronald (Ron), I read till my eyes bled...I was up till 3AM that night. Some of the info was unbelieveable - In fact it inspired me to look at a few other avenues. I'd like to get a copy of the Red Hat you have ... I just picked up blank CD's today. I know it sound like a little overload - BUT - perhaps we could do a dual load - BOTH Alpha's at the same time. Since yours is a desk top size perhaps we could arrange a date/time for a visit? Anytime anyway. All we have to do is arrange a time and date where we can get all that wants to watch and or get involved work on this. One thing though it may take a few hours. In other words many hours! We need the ability to have as much time as needed to do this for this is not like doing an intel box thats for dam sure! I'll burn the disks as soon as I get a chance to do it. All the info I sent as an attachments took a little over a year and theres still more info out there. Especially concerning your box which is a lot more complicated than mine. Well we'll have to plan it. Let me get through this week end and I'll see how's my time frame for the rest of this month or we can plan for it for sometime in June. Ok? Ron:) I have a feeling though that the driver issue for the DAC960 Raid card may still come into play... Joe Lukasiewicz Ronald Maggio wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Meyer" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > Well, most newer kernels in distributions don't need to be recompiled to > support a 'standard' or well known device. A lot of the documentation > for devices talk about building kernels, assuming that support isn't already > there. I suspect that if you can get an install started, the RAID card > will be recognized correctly. I just did an install of RedHat 7.2 <--------------------------snip-----------------------------------------> True from what I've read fo far, but I think that RedHat 7.1 should install the same way with the same drivers already available in RedHat. The only thing is that the latest version of RedHat ! for Alpha's is 7.1. I would recommend RedHat since it is the most use and well knowen for Alpha's. Now mind you there are a few others out there. Have you read any of the info I zipped out to you and the group about Alpha's? I sent web site links and seved web pages stock full of info on the subject, but I will admit its mostly on the model I own. I does pertain to the subject generally. I have it and as I said I'll make a copy of it for you unless your going to downloaded it yourself. I had someone else download it for my because I only have dialup service. It is four full cd's worth! It would have taken me well over a week to download it with dialup service. Well if I can be of anymore assistance let me know. Ron:) on a brand > new Compaq server with an integral RAID and it installed straight up, without > any special handling, other than the Compaq utilities for initializing the > array and! installing Compaq Diagnostics. > > Probably should have the same situation with an Alpha processor > distribution from one of the main vendors. > > Cheers! > > Bob > --- Joseph Lukasiewicz wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I've been poking around and managed to scare up some resources that I think > > could assist me (us) in getting the Alpha 2100 up and running. > > > > It seems the controller card for the Raid is a MYLEX DAC960... I have some > > info on it including what I believe to be drivers and possible > > "instructions"... > > > > Rather than just plop everything in the forum, I was wondering how to > > proceed? I think the kernel will need to be rebuilt, or the drivers > > recompiled, or the "recover" kernal made to some how recognize the drivers... > > > > A! s you can tell, were starting to get a little beyond my level on this...Any > > ideas? > > > > Joe Lukasiewicz > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do You Yahoo!? > > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > > ===== > Bob Meyer > Knightwing Communications, Inc. > 36 Cayuga Blvd > Depew, NY 14043 > Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 > Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020523/241007d1/attachment.html From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Wed May 22 21:29:15 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... References: Message-ID: <002101c201f9$40b08570$eb00590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Dege" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > > > > > I have a feeling though that the driver issue for the DAC960 Raid card may still come into play... > > Fardon my naiveness, but I haven't followed this thread too far, so if my > info's wrong, oh well. > > Just for giggles, I did a search for the DAC960 RAID card on google. The > very first entry that came up was this: > > http://www.dandelion.com/Linux/DAC960.html > > It shows support for the DAC960 RAID card. The chances that the Redhat > stock kernel (or any distro for that matter) is 50/50.... so sayeth the > website. But if it doesn't, you can always recompile the kernel with the > src provided by the site. > > Good luck ;) > > Dege > > So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny > .... If They Weren't Happening To Me > Thanks for the info Rob. I would like one day to get a box like Joseph's to play and learn that type of hardware. Ron:) From peter at thecybersource.com Wed May 22 22:07:36 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... In-Reply-To: <001201c201db$52b16be0$02fea8c0@pepsi> References: <001201c201db$52b16be0$02fea8c0@pepsi> Message-ID: <1022119656.8045.14.camel@Office> Just wanted to cue in here and say that I experience a similar situation on an UPGRADE. Bob Meyer and I worked on it and eventually found: 1. BIOS (Motherboard NOT scsi) played a vital role in handing the boot process to scsi over ide 2. On the upgrade, the necessary init link/file was not passed to the boot strap. This was determined through various steps but the most noticeable was when (after suspecting hardware failure of course :)) was on a fresh install everything worked and booted fine. There are only a handful of scsi adapter manufacturers (less than ide for sure), it's not inconceivable to think they put all the adapter drivers on the distros. On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 17:55, Todd Wirth wrote: On the subject of RedHat kernel having default support for a every SCSI adapter I disagree. We have a Dell server running RedHat 7.2, although I wasn't involved in the upgrade to a newer kernel (Dell provided), I know what happened through various emails between Dell and our other IT guy. They tried 2 stock RedHat kernels that did not work with our SCSI adapter, until finally the 3rd one did the trick. I was about to take over the project and just compile a kernel, but that would have voided our support w/ Dell & RedHat. I'm not too sure about the hardware as this server (besides a Xeon) is in a remote office, but I did see the email traffic, and you could tell the Dell guys were stumped. ;) -- Todd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020523/7b854f58/attachment.html From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Wed May 22 21:26:41 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... References: <001201c201db$52b16be0$02fea8c0@pepsi> Message-ID: <001901c201f8$e556bfa0$eb00590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> ----- Original Message ----- From: Todd Wirth To: nflug@nflug.org Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 5:55 PM Subject: RE: Alpha, additional notes and a question... On the subject of RedHat kernel having default support for a every SCSI adapter I disagree. We have a Dell server running RedHat 7.2, although I wasn't involved in the upgrade to a newer kernel (Dell provided), I know what happened through various emails between Dell and our other IT guy. They tried 2 stock RedHat kernels that did not work with our SCSI adapter, until finally the 3rd one did the trick. I was about to take over the project and just compile a kernel, but that would have voided our support w/ Dell & RedHat. I'm not too sure about the hardware as this server (besides a Xeon) is in a remote office, but I did see the email traffic, and you could tell the Dell guys were stumped. ;) -- Todd I can understand your opinion and your right, but in this case we are at odds with an Alpha a whole different kettle of fish. Alpha's are a lot more complicated then an intel box. We meaning Joseph and I who own DEC Alphas may or may not have one heck of a time getting these boxes to kick over. I sent everyone the info as attachments zipped, I know it a lot of reading but the info I sent took nearly a year to obtain. I'm still looking for more info on what is still not described in detail or even talked about because most people involved (experts) fail to cover the mundane like how to set up the harddrives for every situation. Especially how the harddrives are to be labeled (setup) so on and so forth. I'm putting some notes together to describe the steps it took to get the hardware set up for an install. Well one day I may list all the info on a web site that can help people understand the details that are not always conveyed. Ron:) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Good luck ;) Dege So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny .... If They Weren't Happening To Me From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Thu May 23 06:43:33 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... References: <001201c201db$52b16be0$02fea8c0@pepsi> <1022119656.8045.14.camel@Office> Message-ID: <002101c20246$b0796ff0$8801590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> ----- Original Message ----- From: Cyber Source To: nflug@nflug.org Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:07 PM Subject: RE: Alpha, additional notes and a question... Just wanted to cue in here and say that I experience a similar situation on an UPGRADE. Bob Meyer and I worked on it and eventually found: 1. BIOS (Motherboard NOT scsi) played a vital role in handing the boot process to scsi over ide 2. On the upgrade, the necessary init link/file was not passed to the boot strap. This was determined through various steps but the most noticeable was when (after suspecting hardware failure of course :)) was on a fresh install everything worked and booted fine. There are only a handful of scsi adapter manufacturers (less than ide for sure), it's not inconceivable to think they put all the adapter drivers on the distros. <-----------------------------------------------------------------------------snip--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Well this is what I think is happening with Joseph's Alpha box. First he was installing an OS other RedHat that could not have had the drivers needed to set up the raid scsi card right, secondly not using RedHat guaranties that either. But from what I understood it was booting not seeing the raid controller card? and did not see the drives. Also (if) the card was seen that does not mean that the drives where set up correctly. When I tried to install the OS saw the scsi controller but had a problem was the drives. The odds that in Joe's case of the raid scsi card not having drivers already available in the RedHat distro to install could be, but even if ( and I'm no expert the drives it not setup right ) the card is seen if the drives are not set just right (may or may not have) an influence as to weather the raid scsi card functions correctly. Or it could be a bad card? Who knows I've yet to see the box or an attempt to an install in action on the box in question. We'll find out in time the in's and out's of the beast. Well till future correspondence. Ron:) On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 17:55, Todd Wirth wrote: On the subject of RedHat kernel having default support for a every SCSI adapter I disagree. We have a Dell server running RedHat 7.2, although I wasn't involved in the upgrade to a newer kernel (Dell provided), I know what happened through various emails between Dell and our other IT guy. They tried 2 stock RedHat kernels that did not work with our SCSI adapter, until finally the 3rd one did the trick. I was about to take over the project and just compile a kernel, but that would have voided our support w/ Dell & RedHat. I'm not too sure about the hardware as this server (besides a Xeon) is in a remote office, but I did see the email traffic, and you could tell the Dell guys were stumped. ;) -- Todd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020523/39d166e3/attachment.html From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Thu May 23 07:14:37 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... References: <001201c201db$52b16be0$02fea8c0@pepsi> <1022119656.8045.14.camel@Office> <002101c20246$b0796ff0$8801590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> Message-ID: <000901c2024b$07aa76d0$0e01590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> ----- Original Message ----- From: Ronald Maggio To: nflug@nflug.org Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 6:43 AM Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... ----- Original Message ----- From: Cyber Source To: nflug@nflug.org Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:07 PM Subject: RE: Alpha, additional notes and a question... Just wanted to cue in here and say that I experience a similar situation on an UPGRADE. Bob Meyer and I worked on it and eventually found: 1. BIOS (Motherboard NOT scsi) played a vital role in handing the boot process to scsi over ide 2. On the upgrade, the necessary init link/file was not passed to the boot strap. This was determined through various steps but the most noticeable was when (after suspecting hardware failure of course :)) was on a fresh install everything worked and booted fine. There are only a handful of scsi adapter manufacturers (less than ide for sure), it's not inconceivable to think they put all the adapter drivers on the distros. <-----------------------------------------------------------------------------snip--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Well this is what I think is happening with Joseph's Alpha box. First he was installing an OS other RedHat that may not have had the drivers needed to set up the raid scsi card right. Secondly using RedHat does not guarantee that either, but from what I understood it was booting and not seeing the raid controller card? Plus it did not see the drives. So lets say (if) the card was seen that does not mean that the drives where set up correctly. When I tried to install the OS on mine it saw the scsi controller but had a problem with the drives. The odds are that in Joe's case that the raid scsi card not having drivers available in the RedHat distro could be. But even if ( and I'm no expert if the drives where or not setup correctly ) say if the card is seen, but if the drives are not set just right it may or may not have an influence as to weather the raid scsi card functions correctly. Also it could be a bad card who knows? I've yet to see the box or see an attempt to do install in action on the box in question. We'll find out in time the in's and out's of the beast. Till future correspondence. Ron:) P.S. Boy I dun type good...Not! Look at all the typo's and not so perfect grammar. Its now 7am and I'm just getting coffee. I think I should wait till I get some coffee in me before I start writing. Ron:) On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 17:55, Todd Wirth wrote: On the subject of RedHat kernel having default support for a every SCSI adapter I disagree. We have a Dell server running RedHat 7.2, although I wasn't involved in the upgrade to a newer kernel (Dell provided), I know what happened through various emails between Dell and our other IT guy. They tried 2 stock RedHat kernels that did not work with our SCSI adapter, until finally the 3rd one did the trick. I was about to take over the project and just compile a kernel, but that would have voided our support w/ Dell & RedHat. I'm not too sure about the hardware as this server (besides a Xeon) is in a remote office, but I did see the email traffic, and you could tell the Dell guys were stumped. ;) -- Todd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020523/cee6fe09/attachment.html From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Thu May 23 08:11:48 2002 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... References: <001201c201db$52b16be0$02fea8c0@pepsi> <1022119656.8045.14.camel@Office> <002101c20246$b0796ff0$8801590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> <000901c2024b$07aa76d0$0e01590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> Message-ID: <3CECDC84.9040807@phor.com> take a look at http://www.linuxalpha.org/ for detailed info on running linux on alpha processors. you don't necessarily need to burn the cd's to install the OS on your system, if you have a fast internet connection that is. i did a network installation of debian stable on my Sun IPX over my cable modem in about 1 hour or so. Ronald Maggio wrote: > ? > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ronald Maggio > > To: nflug@nflug.org > > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 6:43 AM > > Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Cyber Source > > To: nflug@nflug.org > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:07 PM > > Subject: RE: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > > > Just wanted to cue in here and say that I experience a similar > situation on an UPGRADE. Bob Meyer and I worked on it and > eventually found: > 1. BIOS (Motherboard NOT scsi) played a vital role in handing > the boot process to scsi over ide > 2. On the upgrade, the necessary init link/file was not passed > to the boot strap. > This was determined through various steps but the most > noticeable was when (after suspecting hardware failure of course > :)) was on a fresh install everything worked and booted fine. > There are only a handful of scsi adapter manufacturers (less > than ide for sure), it's not inconceivable to think they put all > the adapter drivers on the distros. > > <-----------------------------------------------------------------------------snip---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > Well this is what I think is happening with Joseph's Alpha box. > First he was installing an OS other RedHat that may not have had > the drivers needed to set up the raid scsi card right. > Secondly using RedHat does not guarantee that either, but from > what I understood it was booting and not seeing the raid > controller card? Plus it did not see the drives. So lets say > (if) the card was seen that does not mean that the drives where > set up correctly. When I tried to install the OS on mine it saw > the scsi controller but had a problem with the drives. The odds > are that in Joe's case that the raid scsi card not having > drivers available in the RedHat distro could be. But even if ( > and I'm no expert if the drives where or not setup correctly ) > say if the card is seen, but if the drives are not set just > right it may or may not have an influence as to weather the raid > scsi card functions correctly. Also it could be a bad card who > knows? I've yet to see the box or see an attempt to do install > in action on the box in question. We'll find out in time the > in's and out's of the beast. > > Till future correspondence. > > > > Ron:) > > > > P.S. Boy I dun type good...Not! Look at all the typo's and not > so perfect grammar. Its now 7am and I'm just getting coffee. I > think I should wait till I get some coffee in me before I start > writing. > > > > Ron:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 17:55, Todd Wirth wrote: > > On the subject of RedHat kernel having default support for a > every SCSI adapter I disagree. We have a Dell server running > RedHat 7.2, although I wasn't involved in the upgrade to a > newer kernel (Dell provided), I know what happened through > various emails between Dell and our other IT guy. They > tried 2 stock RedHat kernels that did not work with our SCSI > adapter, until finally the 3rd one did the trick. I was > about to take over the project and just compile a kernel, > but that would have voided our support w/ Dell & RedHat. > > I'm not too sure about the hardware as this server (besides > a Xeon) is in a remote office, but I did see the email > traffic, and you could tell the Dell guys were stumped. ;) > > -- Todd > -- Darin Perusich Unix Systems Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Thu May 23 09:31:14 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... References: <001201c201db$52b16be0$02fea8c0@pepsi> <1022119656.8045.14.camel@Office> <002101c20246$b0796ff0$8801590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> <000901c2024b$07aa76d0$0e01590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> <3CECDC84.9040807@phor.com> Message-ID: <000501c2025e$1d7d0870$ce00590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darin Perusich" To: Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 8:11 AM Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... take a look at http://www.linuxalpha.org/ for detailed info on running linux on alpha processors. you don't necessarily need to burn the cd's to install the OS on your system, if you have a fast internet connection that is. i did a network installation of debian stable on my Sun IPX over my cable modem in about 1 hour or so. Thanks for the info Darin. But unfortunately I don't have a broadband. I'll take a look and see if theres any info I have not read yet there. Ron:) Ronald Maggio wrote: > ? > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ronald Maggio > > To: nflug@nflug.org > > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 6:43 AM > > Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Cyber Source > > To: nflug@nflug.org > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:07 PM > > Subject: RE: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > > > Just wanted to cue in here and say that I experience a similar > situation on an UPGRADE. Bob Meyer and I worked on it and > eventually found: > 1. BIOS (Motherboard NOT scsi) played a vital role in handing > the boot process to scsi over ide > 2. On the upgrade, the necessary init link/file was not passed > to the boot strap. > This was determined through various steps but the most > noticeable was when (after suspecting hardware failure of course > :)) was on a fresh install everything worked and booted fine. > There are only a handful of scsi adapter manufacturers (less > than ide for sure), it's not inconceivable to think they put all > the adapter drivers on the distros. > > <--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --snip---------------------------------------------------------------------- -----------------> > > Well this is what I think is happening with Joseph's Alpha box. > First he was installing an OS other RedHat that may not have had > the drivers needed to set up the raid scsi card right. > Secondly using RedHat does not guarantee that either, but from > what I understood it was booting and not seeing the raid > controller card? Plus it did not see the drives. So lets say > (if) the card was seen that does not mean that the drives where > set up correctly. When I tried to install the OS on mine it saw > the scsi controller but had a problem with the drives. The odds > are that in Joe's case that the raid scsi card not having > drivers available in the RedHat distro could be. But even if ( > and I'm no expert if the drives where or not setup correctly ) > say if the card is seen, but if the drives are not set just > right it may or may not have an influence as to weather the raid > scsi card functions correctly. Also it could be a bad card who > knows? I've yet to see the box or see an attempt to do install > in action on the box in question. We'll find out in time the > in's and out's of the beast. > > Till future correspondence. > > > > Ron:) > > > > P.S. Boy I dun type good...Not! Look at all the typo's and not > so perfect grammar. Its now 7am and I'm just getting coffee. I > think I should wait till I get some coffee in me before I start > writing. > > > > Ron:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 17:55, Todd Wirth wrote: > > On the subject of RedHat kernel having default support for a > every SCSI adapter I disagree. We have a Dell server running > RedHat 7.2, although I wasn't involved in the upgrade to a > newer kernel (Dell provided), I know what happened through > various emails between Dell and our other IT guy. They > tried 2 stock RedHat kernels that did not work with our SCSI > adapter, until finally the 3rd one did the trick. I was > about to take over the project and just compile a kernel, > but that would have voided our support w/ Dell & RedHat. > > I'm not too sure about the hardware as this server (besides > a Xeon) is in a remote office, but I did see the email > traffic, and you could tell the Dell guys were stumped. ;) > > -- Todd > -- Darin Perusich Unix Systems Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From jjneff at yahoo.com Thu May 23 10:43:50 2002 From: jjneff at yahoo.com (JJ Neff) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... In-Reply-To: <3CECDC84.9040807@phor.com> Message-ID: <20020523144351.83138.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> This is what I wanted to chime in. Debian works very hard to support the widest range of hardware of the larger or more well known distros. They tend to be behind in getting the newest stuff in the distro (ie KDE3, XF4.2) because they want stable to mean "stable" on a very large amount of hardware. Alpha is very supported by this group... JJN --- Darin Perusich wrote: > take a look at http://www.linuxalpha.org/ for detailed info on running > linux on alpha processors. you don't necessarily need to burn the cd's > to install the OS on your system, if you have a fast internet connection > that is. i did a network installation of debian stable on my Sun IPX > over my cable modem in about 1 hour or so. > > Ronald Maggio wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Ronald Maggio > > > > To: nflug@nflug.org > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 6:43 AM > > > > Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Cyber Source > > > > To: nflug@nflug.org > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:07 PM > > > > Subject: RE: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > > > > > > Just wanted to cue in here and say that I experience a similar > > situation on an UPGRADE. Bob Meyer and I worked on it and > > eventually found: > > 1. BIOS (Motherboard NOT scsi) played a vital role in handing > > the boot process to scsi over ide > > 2. On the upgrade, the necessary init link/file was not passed > > to the boot strap. > > This was determined through various steps but the most > > noticeable was when (after suspecting hardware failure of course > > :)) was on a fresh install everything worked and booted fine. > > There are only a handful of scsi adapter manufacturers (less > > than ide for sure), it's not inconceivable to think they put all > > the adapter drivers on the distros. > > > > > <-----------------------------------------------------------------------------snip---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > > Well this is what I think is happening with Joseph's Alpha box. > > First he was installing an OS other RedHat that may not have had > > the drivers needed to set up the raid scsi card right. > > Secondly using RedHat does not guarantee that either, but from > > what I understood it was booting and not seeing the raid > > controller card? Plus it did not see the drives. So lets say > > (if) the card was seen that does not mean that the drives where > > set up correctly. When I tried to install the OS on mine it saw > > the scsi controller but had a problem with the drives. The odds > > are that in Joe's case that the raid scsi card not having > > drivers available in the RedHat distro could be. But even if ( > > and I'm no expert if the drives where or not setup correctly ) > > say if the card is seen, but if the drives are not set just > > right it may or may not have an influence as to weather the raid > > scsi card functions correctly. Also it could be a bad card who > > knows? I've yet to see the box or see an attempt to do install > > in action on the box in question. We'll find out in time the > > in's and out's of the beast. > > > > Till future correspondence. > > > > > > > > Ron:) > > > > > > > > P.S. Boy I dun type good...Not! Look at all the typo's and not > > so perfect grammar. Its now 7am and I'm just getting coffee. I > > think I should wait till I get some coffee in me before I start > > writing. > > > > > > > > Ron:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 17:55, Todd Wirth wrote: > > > > On the subject of RedHat kernel having default support for a > > every SCSI adapter I disagree. We have a Dell server running > > RedHat 7.2, although I wasn't involved in the upgrade to a > > newer kernel (Dell provided), I know what happened through > > various emails between Dell and our other IT guy. They > > tried 2 stock RedHat kernels that did not work with our SCSI > > adapter, until finally the 3rd one did the trick. I was > > about to take over the project and just compile a kernel, > > but that would have voided our support w/ Dell & RedHat. > > > > I'm not too sure about the hardware as this server (besides > > a Xeon) is in a remote office, but I did see the email > > traffic, and you could tell the Dell guys were stumped. ;) > > > > -- Todd > > > > > -- > Darin Perusich > Unix Systems Administrator > Cognigen Corp. > darinper@cognigencorp.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From niterav at adelphia.net Thu May 23 12:19:49 2002 From: niterav at adelphia.net (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: Hello World Message-ID: <002301c20275$a9952bf0$1f01a8c0@diggerii> OK, Sorry - I have recently moved from my Navy job and will be starting a new one this Tuesday. First of all the email admin can delete the account: wechterr@cnrc.navy.mil Secondly, the status of the computers - The amount of computers that I have available has changed - I have 2 available. In understand that I stated that I would keep them for the NFLUG but, as you know we are here to promote Linux, I have donated a few of them to the Depew Fire Department and will be looking to use them as servers and/or workstations. Someone at the hall yesterday tried to put Win2k on the box (arrrrgh!) but I will fight for Linux. Ok - Computer #1 has the exact hardware that I last sent. Computer #2 is slightly different (A bit different motherboard) but I will try to find out the info - Still a BCM motherboard. Since I really do not want to get into price wars I was thinking that I could donate these boxes to the NFLUG and the NFLUG could either raffle these bad boys off or have some sort of contest. Any other suggestions please email me :-) Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020523/69ad0ffc/attachment.html From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Thu May 23 15:41:23 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: setting up common location for mozilla bookmarks and email In-Reply-To: <20020523193419.37360.qmail@web11306.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020523193419.37360.qmail@web11306.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1022182883.6296.76.camel@polo> eeww.. I don't know if that possible. Linux looks in .netscape in your home dir. I don't know if you can change it. As for email, can you do IMAP? On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 15:34, umar wrote: > hi there, > > can someone guide me on how to set up the bookmarks of > mozilla in such a way that both windows and linux > versions of mozilla can access same bookmarks > (obviously they would store somewhere in windows > partition but dont know exactly where and how). Also, > I would like to do same for emails so that I can > access my email account no matter which OS I am > running. > > Umar > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Dynabrade using MailScanner, > and is believed to be clean. -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Thu May 23 15:55:28 2002 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: setting up common location for mozilla bookmarks and email In-Reply-To: <1022182883.6296.76.camel@polo> Message-ID: Actually, Mozilla installs ts preferences into a .mozilla folder. Unless it detects the existence of a .netscape folder, then it will use that. There are 2 problems I see with sharing. One, I don't know if Mozilla for Windows uses the same config layout as Linux (though logically it would seem sane). Two, 7bit character encoding vs. 8-bit encoding. aka, Windows using the extra bit for carraige returns might make Mozilla think the preferences (or email files for that matter) are corrupt. Just some food for thought -Rob > eeww.. I don't know if that possible. Linux looks in .netscape in your > home dir. I don't know if you can change it. As for email, can you do > IMAP? > > On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 15:34, umar wrote: > > hi there, > > > > can someone guide me on how to set up the bookmarks of > > mozilla in such a way that both windows and linux > > versions of mozilla can access same bookmarks > > (obviously they would store somewhere in windows > > partition but dont know exactly where and how). Also, > > I would like to do same for emails so that I can > > access my email account no matter which OS I am > > running. > > > > Umar > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > > http://launch.yahoo.com > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by Dynabrade using MailScanner, > > and is believed to be clean. > -- > ------------------------------------------- > Justin Bennett > Red Hat Certified Engineer > Network Administrator > Dynabrade Inc. > 8989 Sheridan Dr > Clarence, NY 14031 > 716-631-0100 ext 215 > Dege So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny .... If They Weren't Happening To Me From umar99 at yahoo.com Thu May 23 15:34:19 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: setting up common location for mozilla bookmarks and email Message-ID: <20020523193419.37360.qmail@web11306.mail.yahoo.com> hi there, can someone guide me on how to set up the bookmarks of mozilla in such a way that both windows and linux versions of mozilla can access same bookmarks (obviously they would store somewhere in windows partition but dont know exactly where and how). Also, I would like to do same for emails so that I can access my email account no matter which OS I am running. Umar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Thu May 23 15:02:39 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... References: <20020523144351.83138.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001501c2028c$696d6850$6301590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> ----- Original Message ----- From: "JJ Neff" To: Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 10:43 AM Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... This is what I wanted to chime in. Debian works very hard to support the widest range of hardware of the larger or more well known distros. They tend to be behind in getting the newest stuff in the distro (ie KDE3, XF4.2) because they want stable to mean "stable" on a very large amount of hardware. Alpha is very supported by this group... JJN Thanks for the info John. Yes I do know that, and thats why I'm trying to get the 233Mhz unit up and running. I already had plans to install Debian or one of the other distro's on the 166Mhz unit later. The main problem is first understanding how to get them up and running. I had to search high and low to find any information on how to set up these units. Not a lot of available info is on the mundain details of how to set them up. I've read what authors where writing on the subject and nearly all leave out the mundain stuff and write like your already aware of how to start from the ground up. If these authors could come down from the clouds of super techville and cover the every conceivable notion relating from (((setting up the hardware))) and then to installing, and post installation checks. Most if not even all questions would be answered. But I have yet read one that relates to the hardware answering the question. Now how do I make sure that the hardware is correctly set up right to do an install? All I've mainly read gave little information to hardware and focused in on the OS installation. Not every one is a been there done that. Till future correspondence. Ron:) --- Darin Perusich wrote: > take a look at http://www.linuxalpha.org/ for detailed info on running > linux on alpha processors. you don't necessarily need to burn the cd's > to install the OS on your system, if you have a fast internet connection > that is. i did a network installation of debian stable on my Sun IPX > over my cable modem in about 1 hour or so. > > Ronald Maggio wrote: > > > ??? > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Ronald Maggio > > > > To: nflug@nflug.org > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 6:43 AM > > > > Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Cyber Source > > > > To: nflug@nflug.org > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:07 PM > > > > Subject: RE: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > > > > > > Just wanted to cue in here and say that I experience a similar > > situation on an UPGRADE. Bob Meyer and I worked on it and > > eventually found: > > 1. BIOS (Motherboard NOT scsi) played a vital role in handing > > the boot process to scsi over ide > > 2. On the upgrade, the necessary init link/file was not passed > > to the boot strap. > > This was determined through various steps but the most > > noticeable was when (after suspecting hardware failure of course > > :)) was on a fresh install everything worked and booted fine. > > There are only a handful of scsi adapter manufacturers (less > > than ide for sure), it's not inconceivable to think they put all > > the adapter drivers on the distros. > > > > > <--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --snip---------------------------------------------------------------------- -----------------> > > > > Well this is what I think is happening with Joseph's Alpha box. > > First he was installing an OS other RedHat that may not have had > > the drivers needed to set up the raid scsi card right. > > Secondly using RedHat does not guarantee that either, but from > > what I understood it was booting and not seeing the raid > > controller card? Plus it did not see the drives. So lets say > > (if) the card was seen that does not mean that the drives where > > set up correctly. When I tried to install the OS on mine it saw > > the scsi controller but had a problem with the drives. The odds > > are that in Joe's case that the raid scsi card not having > > drivers available in the RedHat distro could be. But even if ( > > and I'm no expert if the drives where or not setup correctly ) > > say if the card is seen, but if the drives are not set just > > right it may or may not have an influence as to weather the raid > > scsi card functions correctly. Also it could be a bad card who > > knows? I've yet to see the box or see an attempt to do install > > in action on the box in question. We'll find out in time the > > in's and out's of the beast. > > > > Till future correspondence. > > > > > > > > Ron:) > > > > > > > > P.S. Boy I dun type good...Not! Look at all the typo's and not > > so perfect grammar. Its now 7am and I'm just getting coffee. I > > think I should wait till I get some coffee in me before I start > > writing. > > > > > > > > Ron:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 17:55, Todd Wirth wrote: > > > > On the subject of RedHat kernel having default support for a > > every SCSI adapter I disagree. We have a Dell server running > > RedHat 7.2, although I wasn't involved in the upgrade to a > > newer kernel (Dell provided), I know what happened through > > various emails between Dell and our other IT guy. They > > tried 2 stock RedHat kernels that did not work with our SCSI > > adapter, until finally the 3rd one did the trick. I was > > about to take over the project and just compile a kernel, > > but that would have voided our support w/ Dell & RedHat. > > > > I'm not too sure about the hardware as this server (besides > > a Xeon) is in a remote office, but I did see the email > > traffic, and you could tell the Dell guys were stumped. ;) > > > > -- Todd > > > > > -- > Darin Perusich > Unix Systems Administrator > Cognigen Corp. > darinper@cognigencorp.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From deadpoint at adelphia.net Thu May 23 17:20:28 2002 From: deadpoint at adelphia.net (deadpoint) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: setting up common location for mozilla bookmarks and email References: Message-ID: <3CED5D1C.8050301@adelphia.net> netscape use to have support for roaming profiles, where it would store all your preferences in an LDAP server. the support for this existed in version 4.x of the browser but i'm not sure about netscape 6x or mozilla. if it's there it isn't very apparent. Robert Dege wrote: >Actually, Mozilla installs ts preferences into a .mozilla folder. Unless >it detects the existence of a .netscape folder, then it will use that. > >There are 2 problems I see with sharing. One, I don't know if Mozilla for >Windows uses the same config layout as Linux (though logically it would >seem sane). Two, 7bit character encoding vs. 8-bit encoding. aka, >Windows using the extra bit for carraige returns might make Mozilla think >the preferences (or email files for that matter) are corrupt. > >Just some food for thought > >-Rob > > > > >>eeww.. I don't know if that possible. Linux looks in .netscape in your >>home dir. I don't know if you can change it. As for email, can you do >>IMAP? >> >>On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 15:34, umar wrote: >> >> >>>hi there, >>> >>>can someone guide me on how to set up the bookmarks of >>>mozilla in such a way that both windows and linux >>>versions of mozilla can access same bookmarks >>>(obviously they would store somewhere in windows >>>partition but dont know exactly where and how). Also, >>>I would like to do same for emails so that I can >>>access my email account no matter which OS I am >>>running. >>> >>>Umar >>> >>>__________________________________________________ >>>Do You Yahoo!? >>>LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience >>>http://launch.yahoo.com >>> >>>-- >>>This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>dangerous content by Dynabrade using MailScanner, >>>and is believed to be clean. >>> >>> >>-- >>------------------------------------------- >>Justin Bennett >>Red Hat Certified Engineer >>Network Administrator >>Dynabrade Inc. >>8989 Sheridan Dr >>Clarence, NY 14031 >>716-631-0100 ext 215 >> >> >> > > > >Dege > >So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny >.... If They Weren't Happening To Me > > > > From pvant67 at wnyip.net Thu May 23 17:58:26 2002 From: pvant67 at wnyip.net (peter) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: spare boxes : an idea Message-ID: <3CED6602.1080301@wnyip.net> Hi all, let me introduce myself. I'm pete, a 4-year linux user, mostly RH but sometimes homebrew. Looking to join the LUG, since I've been lurking on the list for a few weeks. Missed the last 2 meetings -- I was busy relocating to Lockport, when the car died permanently. Maybe the next one, I can make it. I saw a cool idea for those spare boxes Ron has at http://www.linuxplanet.com There's an article there from a Florida LUG about their online conferencing system, down near the bottom of the page. BTW last I checked, the DAC960 is supported under the newer RH versions, but there were a few patches for it on 2.5.17 on the kernel mailing list today. (I roll my own...) Hope to see you all soon! pete -- "Truly, if Te is strong in one, all one needs to do is sit on one's ass, and the corpse of one's enemy shall be carried past shortly." -- spotted somewhere on Usenet From jlukasiewicz at yahoo.com Fri May 24 13:00:06 2002 From: jlukasiewicz at yahoo.com (Joseph Lukasiewicz) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: makedev, disklabel, aboot, milo ... In-Reply-To: <20020523093522.B2634@linux04.mro.cpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <20020524170006.49234.qmail@web14208.mail.yahoo.com> Jay, confirmed, the DAC960 has an older firmware version - 2.43 I believe (like an idiot I didn't write it down). The SRM Console is V 5.3-2, The VMS PALcode is V5.56-7 and the OSF PALcode is V 1.45-12. ARC Alpha Firmware Version 4.58... The MYLEX site had an upgrade to 2.73, BUT it was full of warnings and sounded like "death on toast" if you don't go the OEM route. I searched but could not find a DEC/Compaq/HP flash for the controller... If I did decide to go the NCR route - won't there be a limit on the number of SCSI devices that controller will support? The drives are in the internal cage 3 two's and 4 four's...with a tape drive and CD-Rom I have a feeling I will end up short. What is IIRC? The SRM Console is V 5.3-2, The VMS PALcode is V5.56-7 and the OSF PALcode is V 1.45-12. ARC Alpha Firmware Version 4.58... I'm bumming if I can't use the drives I have - it will push me back towards NT 4.0 SP6 as the OS of choice with the linux dreams off this platform and on to some INTEL box... Joe Lukasiewicz Jay Estabrook wrote: Hi, Joe, sorry about the delay... On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 05:17:30PM -0700, Joseph Lukasiewicz wrote: > > Hi...I've tried a few things and I appear to be at a wall on the > Potato load on the Alpha 2100 (Sable). If the DAC960 controller has old firmware (and almost all the ones that ran originally with OSF or NT on the older boxes are), then the Linux DAC960 driver will NOT work. First off, there's no MILO for SABLE - you MUST run SRM. Second, unless you update the firmware on the DAC960 board, it will not be usable with Linux. This would cost money, IIRC, and need to be done via MYLEX the company. Thirdly, there is an internal NCR810 SCSI controller that you should be able to cable up to the builtin "shelf", and use the disks from there. That driver is well-tested under Linux. >From there, software RAID may be an option... Good luck. --Jay++ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jay A Estabrook HPTC - LINUX support Hewlett-Packard Company - MRO1-2/K15 (508) 467-2080 200 Forest Street, Marlboro MA 01752 Jay.Estabrook@hp.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020524/ff8a0f08/attachment.html From shipdadip at adelphia.net Fri May 24 13:36:29 2002 From: shipdadip at adelphia.net (shipdadip) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: makedev, disklabel, aboot, milo ... References: <20020524170006.49234.qmail@web14208.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000a01c20349$8b7287b0$0b00a8c0@athlon> Installed Rehat 7.3, using XChat for IRC, I can'tconnet to any servers, can anyone help me out? ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Lukasiewicz To: Jay Estabrook Cc: Niagara Frontier Linux Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 1:00 PM Subject: Re: makedev, disklabel, aboot, milo ... Jay, confirmed, the DAC960 has an older firmware version - 2.43 I believe (like an idiot I didn't write it down). The SRM Console is V 5.3-2, The VMS PALcode is V5.56-7 and the OSF PALcode is V 1.45-12. ARC Alpha Firmware Version 4.58... The MYLEX site had an upgrade to 2.73, BUT it was full of warnings and sounded like "death on toast" if you don't go the OEM route. I searched but could not find a DEC/Compaq/HP flash for the controller... If I did decide to go the NCR route - won't there be a limit on the number of SCSI devices that controller will support? The drives are in the internal cage 3 two's and 4 four's...with a tape drive and CD-Rom I have a feeling I will end up short. What is IIRC? The SRM Console is V 5.3-2, The VMS PALcode is V5.56-7 and the OSF PALcode is V 1.45-12. ARC Alpha Firmware Version 4.58... I'm bumming if I can't use the drives I have - it will push me back towards NT 4.0 SP6 as the OS of choice with the linux dreams off this platform and on to some INTEL box... Joe Lukasiewicz Jay Estabrook wrote: Hi, Joe, sorry about the delay... On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 05:17:30PM -0700, Joseph Lukasiewicz wrote: > > Hi...I've tried a few things and I appear to be at a wall on the > Potato load on the Alpha 2100 (Sable). If the DAC960 controller has old firmware (and almost all the ones that ran originally with OSF or NT on the older boxes are), then the Linux DAC960 driver will NOT work. First off, there's no MILO for SABLE - you MUST run SRM. Second, unless you update the firmware on the DAC960 board, it will not be usable with Linux. This would cost money, IIRC, and need to be done via MYLEX the company. Thirdly, there is an internal NCR810 SCSI controller that you should be able to cable up to the builtin "shelf", and use the disks from there. That driver is well-tested under Linux. From there, software RAID may be an option... Good luck. --Jay++ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jay A Estabrook HPTC - LINUX support Hewlett-Packard Company - MRO1-2/K15 (508) 467-2080 200 Forest Street, Marlboro MA 01752 Jay.Estabrook@hp.com ----------------------------------------! ------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020524/59269868/attachment.html From umar99 at yahoo.com Sun May 26 12:13:54 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:15 2005 Subject: what is a good proxy server Message-ID: <20020526161354.37330.qmail@web11304.mail.yahoo.com> hi all, since my mandrake connection sharing system is not working (and no one was able to help me with that), I am thinking about setting up a third party server to share my cable connection with my roommates. I want to know what are good proxy servers for linux that can handle upto 5 clients and support ftp, telnet, ssh and various instant messengers. I have heard of squid but dont know how good or bad it is. Any help in this regard would be appreciated. And NO I cannot buy a new box to act as a router. I have to do something using my own box. Umar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From deadpoint at adelphia.net Mon May 27 10:50:29 2002 From: deadpoint at adelphia.net (deadpoint) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: what is a good proxy server References: <20020526161354.37330.qmail@web11304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3CF247B5.5000901@adelphia.net> where you ever able to connect to the net using your linux machine? without that you'll never get the connection shaing to work. does your machine have 2 network cards? how are your NIC(s) configured? send the output from the following commands to the list. ifconfig -a netstat -rn cat /etc/resolv.conf cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ipchains -L iptables -L umar wrote: >hi all, > >since my mandrake connection sharing system is not >working (and no one was able to help me with that), I >am thinking about setting up a third party server to >share my cable connection with my roommates. I want to >know what are good proxy servers for linux that can >handle upto 5 clients and support ftp, telnet, ssh and >various instant messengers. > >I have heard of squid but dont know how good or bad it >is. Any help in this regard would be appreciated. > >And NO I cannot buy a new box to act as a router. I >have to do something using my own box. > >Umar > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup >http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > From umar99 at yahoo.com Mon May 27 11:10:23 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: what is a good proxy server In-Reply-To: <3CF247B5.5000901@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <20020527151023.6969.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> offcourse my internet is working and i have two NIC. Here are the outputs. They are different from what mandrake generated for me since a friend of mine came yesterday and he reconfigured the iptables, but I havent got a chance yet to test it on client computers. ------------------------------------ [root@siddiqi umar]# ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:01:03:CE:8E:29 inet addr:68.65.8.57 Bcast:68.65.9.255 Mask:255.255.254.0 UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:305110 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:3 TX packets:19449 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1 collisions:266 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:76774520 (73.2 Mb) TX bytes:2781753 (2.6 Mb) Interrupt:3 Base address:0xdc00 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:5A:45:B6:5E inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:935 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:109885 (107.3 Kb) TX bytes:2772 (2.7 Kb) Interrupt:11 Base address:0xd800 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:1081 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1081 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:73024 (71.3 Kb) TX bytes:73024 (71.3 Kb) ----------------------------------------- [root@siddiqi umar]# netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 40 0 0 eth1 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 40 0 0 eth1 68.65.8.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.254.0 U 40 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 40 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 68.65.8.1 0.0.0.0 UG 40 0 0 eth0 ------------------------------------------- nameserver 24.48.33.2 nameserver 24.48.33.3 search buf.adelphia.net. ----------------------------------------- cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 1[root@siddiqi umar]# ipchains -L ipchains: Incompatible with this kernel [root@siddiqi umar]# iptables -L Chain INPUT (policy DROP) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp spt:bootpc dpt:bootps ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:bootpc dpt:bootps ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpt:domain ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:domain DROP tcp -- anywhere 127.0.0.0/8 ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere state RELATED,ESTABLISHED ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere DROP all -- BASE-ADDRESS.MCAST.NET/4 anywhere PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere DROP all -- anywhere anywhere Chain FORWARD (policy DROP) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT all -- 192.168.0.0/24 anywhere ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere state RELATED,ESTABLISHED Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere Chain INT_IN (0 references) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere DROP all -- anywhere anywhere Chain INT_OUT (0 references) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere Chain PUB_IN (3 references) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp destination-unreachable ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp echo-reply ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp time-exceeded ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:domain ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:pop2 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:imap ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:http ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ftp-data ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ftp ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:pop3 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ssh ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:telnet ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:https ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:smtp ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:domain ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpt:domain ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpt:domain LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:telnet state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ftp state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:imap state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:pop3 state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:finger state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:sunrpc state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:exec state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:login state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:tacnews state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ssh state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpt:31337 state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' DROP icmp -- anywhere anywhere DROP all -- anywhere anywhere Chain PUB_OUT (3 references) target prot opt source destination REJECT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp destination-unreachable reject-with icmp-port-unreachable REJECT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp time-exceeded reject-with icmp-port-unreachable ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere ----------------------------------------- --- deadpoint wrote: > where you ever able to connect to the net using your > linux machine? > without that you'll never get the connection shaing > to work. does your > machine have 2 network cards? how are your NIC(s) > configured? send the > output from the following commands to the list. > > ifconfig -a > netstat -rn > cat /etc/resolv.conf > cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > ipchains -L > iptables -L > > umar wrote: > > >hi all, > > > >since my mandrake connection sharing system is not > >working (and no one was able to help me with that), > I > >am thinking about setting up a third party server > to > >share my cable connection with my roommates. I want > to > >know what are good proxy servers for linux that can > >handle upto 5 clients and support ftp, telnet, ssh > and > >various instant messengers. > > > >I have heard of squid but dont know how good or bad > it > >is. Any help in this regard would be appreciated. > > > >And NO I cannot buy a new box to act as a router. I > >have to do something using my own box. > > > >Umar > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > >http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From todd at phyberoptiks.net Mon May 27 11:41:27 2002 From: todd at phyberoptiks.net (Todd Wirth) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: what is a good proxy server In-Reply-To: <20020527151023.6969.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001501c20594$f71f0860$02fea8c0@pepsi> What's your output from: iptables -t nat -L -- Todd -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of umar Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 11:10 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: what is a good proxy server offcourse my internet is working and i have two NIC. Here are the outputs. They are different from what mandrake generated for me since a friend of mine came yesterday and he reconfigured the iptables, but I havent got a chance yet to test it on client computers. ------------------------------------ [root@siddiqi umar]# ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:01:03:CE:8E:29 inet addr:68.65.8.57 Bcast:68.65.9.255 Mask:255.255.254.0 UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:305110 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:3 TX packets:19449 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1 collisions:266 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:76774520 (73.2 Mb) TX bytes:2781753 (2.6 Mb) Interrupt:3 Base address:0xdc00 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:5A:45:B6:5E inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:935 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:109885 (107.3 Kb) TX bytes:2772 (2.7 Kb) Interrupt:11 Base address:0xd800 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:1081 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1081 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:73024 (71.3 Kb) TX bytes:73024 (71.3 Kb) ----------------------------------------- [root@siddiqi umar]# netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 40 0 0 eth1 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 40 0 0 eth1 68.65.8.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.254.0 U 40 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 40 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 68.65.8.1 0.0.0.0 UG 40 0 0 eth0 ------------------------------------------- nameserver 24.48.33.2 nameserver 24.48.33.3 search buf.adelphia.net. ----------------------------------------- cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 1[root@siddiqi umar]# ipchains -L ipchains: Incompatible with this kernel [root@siddiqi umar]# iptables -L Chain INPUT (policy DROP) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp spt:bootpc dpt:bootps ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:bootpc dpt:bootps ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpt:domain ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:domain DROP tcp -- anywhere 127.0.0.0/8 ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere state RELATED,ESTABLISHED ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere DROP all -- BASE-ADDRESS.MCAST.NET/4 anywhere PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere DROP all -- anywhere anywhere Chain FORWARD (policy DROP) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT all -- 192.168.0.0/24 anywhere ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere state RELATED,ESTABLISHED Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere Chain INT_IN (0 references) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere DROP all -- anywhere anywhere Chain INT_OUT (0 references) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere Chain PUB_IN (3 references) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp destination-unreachable ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp echo-reply ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp time-exceeded ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:domain ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:pop2 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:imap ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:http ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ftp-data ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ftp ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:pop3 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ssh ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:telnet ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:https ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:smtp ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:domain ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpt:domain ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpt:domain LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:telnet state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ftp state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:imap state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:pop3 state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:finger state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:sunrpc state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:exec state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:login state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:tacnews state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ssh state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpt:31337 state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' DROP icmp -- anywhere anywhere DROP all -- anywhere anywhere Chain PUB_OUT (3 references) target prot opt source destination REJECT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp destination-unreachable reject-with icmp-port-unreachable REJECT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp time-exceeded reject-with icmp-port-unreachable ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere ----------------------------------------- --- deadpoint wrote: > where you ever able to connect to the net using your > linux machine? > without that you'll never get the connection shaing > to work. does your > machine have 2 network cards? how are your NIC(s) > configured? send the > output from the following commands to the list. > > ifconfig -a > netstat -rn > cat /etc/resolv.conf > cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > ipchains -L > iptables -L > > umar wrote: > > >hi all, > > > >since my mandrake connection sharing system is not > >working (and no one was able to help me with that), > I > >am thinking about setting up a third party server > to > >share my cable connection with my roommates. I want > to > >know what are good proxy servers for linux that can > >handle upto 5 clients and support ftp, telnet, ssh > and > >various instant messengers. > > > >I have heard of squid but dont know how good or bad > it > >is. Any help in this regard would be appreciated. > > > >And NO I cannot buy a new box to act as a router. I > >have to do something using my own box. > > > >Umar > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > >http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From vlokstone at yahoo.com Mon May 27 13:32:32 2002 From: vlokstone at yahoo.com (vlok stone) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: what is a good proxy server In-Reply-To: <20020527151023.6969.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020527173232.18388.qmail@web10407.mail.yahoo.com> what are the client PCs gettting for addresses ? is dhcpd daemon running? chk in mandrake control under services ->if not command = service dhcpd start __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From umar99 at yahoo.com Mon May 27 19:35:44 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: what is a good proxy server In-Reply-To: <20020527173232.18388.qmail@web10407.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020527233544.14818.qmail@web11302.mail.yahoo.com> yes dhcpd is running --- vlok stone wrote: > > what are the client PCs gettting for addresses ? > is dhcpd daemon running? > chk in mandrake control under services > ->if not > command = service dhcpd start > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From umar99 at yahoo.com Mon May 27 19:35:17 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: what is a good proxy server In-Reply-To: <001501c20594$f71f0860$02fea8c0@pepsi> Message-ID: <20020527233517.42757.qmail@web11305.mail.yahoo.com> [root@siddiqi umar]# iptables -t nat -L Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination MASQUERADE all -- 192.168.0.0/24 anywhere Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination --- Todd Wirth wrote: > What's your output from: iptables -t nat -L > > -- Todd > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org > [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of > umar > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 11:10 AM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: Re: what is a good proxy server > > > offcourse my internet is working and i have two NIC. > Here are the outputs. They are different from what > mandrake generated for me since a friend of mine > came > yesterday and he reconfigured the iptables, but I > havent got a chance yet to test it on client > computers. > > ------------------------------------ > [root@siddiqi umar]# ifconfig -a > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr > 00:01:03:CE:8E:29 > inet addr:68.65.8.57 Bcast:68.65.9.255 > Mask:255.255.254.0 > UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MTU:1500 > Metric:1 > RX packets:305110 errors:3 dropped:0 > overruns:0 frame:3 > TX packets:19449 errors:0 dropped:0 > overruns:0 carrier:1 > collisions:266 txqueuelen:100 > RX bytes:76774520 (73.2 Mb) TX > bytes:2781753 (2.6 Mb) > Interrupt:3 Base address:0xdc00 > > eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr > 00:04:5A:45:B6:5E > inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 > > Mask:255.255.255.0 > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 > Metric:1 > RX packets:935 errors:0 dropped:0 > overruns:0 > frame:0 > TX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 > overruns:0 > carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 > RX bytes:109885 (107.3 Kb) TX bytes:2772 > (2.7 Kb) > Interrupt:11 Base address:0xd800 > > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > RX packets:1081 errors:0 dropped:0 > overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:1081 errors:0 dropped:0 > overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > RX bytes:73024 (71.3 Kb) TX bytes:73024 > (71.3 Kb) > ----------------------------------------- > > > > [root@siddiqi umar]# netstat -rn > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask > Flags > MSS Window irtt Iface > 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH > > 40 0 0 eth1 > 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U > > 40 0 0 eth1 > 68.65.8.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.254.0 U > > 40 0 0 eth0 > 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U > > 40 0 0 lo > 0.0.0.0 68.65.8.1 0.0.0.0 UG > > 40 0 0 eth0 > ------------------------------------------- > nameserver 24.48.33.2 > nameserver 24.48.33.3 > search buf.adelphia.net. > ----------------------------------------- > cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > 1[root@siddiqi umar]# ipchains -L > ipchains: Incompatible with this kernel > [root@siddiqi umar]# iptables -L > Chain INPUT (policy DROP) > target prot opt source destination > ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere > > udp spt:bootpc dpt:bootps > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp spt:bootpc dpt:bootps > ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere > > udp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc > ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere > > udp dpt:domain > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:domain > DROP tcp -- anywhere 127.0.0.0/8 > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > > state RELATED,ESTABLISHED > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > DROP all -- BASE-ADDRESS.MCAST.NET/4 > anywhere > PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere > PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere > PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere > DROP all -- anywhere anywhere > > Chain FORWARD (policy DROP) > target prot opt source destination > ACCEPT all -- 192.168.0.0/24 anywhere > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > > state RELATED,ESTABLISHED > > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) > target prot opt source destination > PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere > PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere > PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere > > Chain INT_IN (0 references) > target prot opt source destination > ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere > DROP all -- anywhere anywhere > > Chain INT_OUT (0 references) > target prot opt source destination > ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > > Chain PUB_IN (3 references) > target prot opt source destination > ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere > > icmp destination-unreachable > ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere > > icmp echo-reply > ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere > > icmp time-exceeded > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:domain > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:pop2 > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:imap > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:http > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:ftp-data > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:ftp > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:pop3 > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:ssh > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:telnet > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:https > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From todd at phyberoptiks.net Mon May 27 20:17:25 2002 From: todd at phyberoptiks.net (Todd Wirth) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: what is a good proxy server In-Reply-To: <20020527233517.42757.qmail@web11305.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001801c205dd$0b8f57d0$02fea8c0@pepsi> Try this really quickly: iptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING 1 iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE Then check your clients to see if they can get out. -- Todd -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of umar Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 7:35 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: RE: what is a good proxy server [root@siddiqi umar]# iptables -t nat -L Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination MASQUERADE all -- 192.168.0.0/24 anywhere Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination --- Todd Wirth wrote: > What's your output from: iptables -t nat -L > > -- Todd > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org > [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of > umar > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 11:10 AM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: Re: what is a good proxy server > > > offcourse my internet is working and i have two NIC. > Here are the outputs. They are different from what > mandrake generated for me since a friend of mine > came > yesterday and he reconfigured the iptables, but I > havent got a chance yet to test it on client > computers. > > ------------------------------------ > [root@siddiqi umar]# ifconfig -a > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr > 00:01:03:CE:8E:29 > inet addr:68.65.8.57 Bcast:68.65.9.255 > Mask:255.255.254.0 > UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MTU:1500 > Metric:1 > RX packets:305110 errors:3 dropped:0 > overruns:0 frame:3 > TX packets:19449 errors:0 dropped:0 > overruns:0 carrier:1 > collisions:266 txqueuelen:100 > RX bytes:76774520 (73.2 Mb) TX > bytes:2781753 (2.6 Mb) > Interrupt:3 Base address:0xdc00 > > eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr > 00:04:5A:45:B6:5E > inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 > > Mask:255.255.255.0 > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 > Metric:1 > RX packets:935 errors:0 dropped:0 > overruns:0 > frame:0 > TX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 > overruns:0 > carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 > RX bytes:109885 (107.3 Kb) TX bytes:2772 > (2.7 Kb) > Interrupt:11 Base address:0xd800 > > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > RX packets:1081 errors:0 dropped:0 > overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:1081 errors:0 dropped:0 > overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > RX bytes:73024 (71.3 Kb) TX bytes:73024 > (71.3 Kb) > ----------------------------------------- > > > > [root@siddiqi umar]# netstat -rn > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask > Flags > MSS Window irtt Iface > 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH > > 40 0 0 eth1 > 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U > > 40 0 0 eth1 > 68.65.8.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.254.0 U > > 40 0 0 eth0 > 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U > > 40 0 0 lo > 0.0.0.0 68.65.8.1 0.0.0.0 UG > > 40 0 0 eth0 > ------------------------------------------- > nameserver 24.48.33.2 > nameserver 24.48.33.3 > search buf.adelphia.net. > ----------------------------------------- > cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > 1[root@siddiqi umar]# ipchains -L > ipchains: Incompatible with this kernel > [root@siddiqi umar]# iptables -L > Chain INPUT (policy DROP) > target prot opt source destination > ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere > > udp spt:bootpc dpt:bootps > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp spt:bootpc dpt:bootps > ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere > > udp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc > ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere > > udp dpt:domain > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:domain > DROP tcp -- anywhere 127.0.0.0/8 > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > > state RELATED,ESTABLISHED > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > DROP all -- BASE-ADDRESS.MCAST.NET/4 > anywhere > PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere > PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere > PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere > DROP all -- anywhere anywhere > > Chain FORWARD (policy DROP) > target prot opt source destination > ACCEPT all -- 192.168.0.0/24 anywhere > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > > state RELATED,ESTABLISHED > > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) > target prot opt source destination > PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere > PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere > PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere > > Chain INT_IN (0 references) > target prot opt source destination > ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere > DROP all -- anywhere anywhere > > Chain INT_OUT (0 references) > target prot opt source destination > ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > > Chain PUB_IN (3 references) > target prot opt source destination > ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere > > icmp destination-unreachable > ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere > > icmp echo-reply > ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere > > icmp time-exceeded > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:domain > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:pop2 > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:imap > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:http > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:ftp-data > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:ftp > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:pop3 > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:ssh > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:telnet > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:https > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From umar99 at yahoo.com Mon May 27 20:42:31 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: what is a good proxy server [IT WoRKS!] In-Reply-To: <001801c205dd$0b8f57d0$02fea8c0@pepsi> Message-ID: <20020528004231.21421.qmail@web11302.mail.yahoo.com> well its working now... thanx everyone for your help. umar --- Todd Wirth wrote: > Try this really quickly: > > iptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING 1 > iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE > > Then check your clients to see if they can get out. > -- Todd > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org > [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of > umar > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 7:35 PM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: RE: what is a good proxy server > > > > [root@siddiqi umar]# iptables -t nat -L > Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT) > target prot opt source destination > > Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT) > target prot opt source destination > MASQUERADE all -- 192.168.0.0/24 anywhere > > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) > target prot opt source destination > > > > --- Todd Wirth wrote: > > What's your output from: iptables -t nat -L > > > > -- Todd > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org > > [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of > > umar > > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 11:10 AM > > To: nflug@nflug.org > > Subject: Re: what is a good proxy server > > > > > > offcourse my internet is working and i have two > NIC. > > Here are the outputs. They are different from what > > mandrake generated for me since a friend of mine > > came > > yesterday and he reconfigured the iptables, but I > > havent got a chance yet to test it on client > > computers. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > [root@siddiqi umar]# ifconfig -a > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr > > 00:01:03:CE:8E:29 > > inet addr:68.65.8.57 Bcast:68.65.9.255 > > Mask:255.255.254.0 > > UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING > MTU:1500 > > Metric:1 > > RX packets:305110 errors:3 dropped:0 > > overruns:0 frame:3 > > TX packets:19449 errors:0 dropped:0 > > overruns:0 carrier:1 > > collisions:266 txqueuelen:100 > > RX bytes:76774520 (73.2 Mb) TX > > bytes:2781753 (2.6 Mb) > > Interrupt:3 Base address:0xdc00 > > > > eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr > > 00:04:5A:45:B6:5E > > inet addr:192.168.0.1 > Bcast:192.168.0.255 > > > > Mask:255.255.255.0 > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 > > > Metric:1 > > RX packets:935 errors:0 dropped:0 > > overruns:0 > > frame:0 > > TX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 > > overruns:0 > > carrier:0 > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 > > RX bytes:109885 (107.3 Kb) TX > bytes:2772 > > (2.7 Kb) > > Interrupt:11 Base address:0xd800 > > > > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > > RX packets:1081 errors:0 dropped:0 > > overruns:0 frame:0 > > TX packets:1081 errors:0 dropped:0 > > overruns:0 carrier:0 > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > > RX bytes:73024 (71.3 Kb) TX bytes:73024 > > (71.3 Kb) > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > [root@siddiqi umar]# netstat -rn > > Kernel IP routing table > > Destination Gateway Genmask > > Flags > > MSS Window irtt Iface > > 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH > > > > > 40 0 0 eth1 > > 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U > > > > > 40 0 0 eth1 > > 68.65.8.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.254.0 U > > > > > 40 0 0 eth0 > > 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U > > > > > 40 0 0 lo > > 0.0.0.0 68.65.8.1 0.0.0.0 UG > > > > > 40 0 0 eth0 > > ------------------------------------------- > > nameserver 24.48.33.2 > > nameserver 24.48.33.3 > > search buf.adelphia.net. > > ----------------------------------------- > > cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > > 1[root@siddiqi umar]# ipchains -L > > ipchains: Incompatible with this kernel > > [root@siddiqi umar]# iptables -L > > Chain INPUT (policy DROP) > > target prot opt source > destination > > ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere > > > > > udp spt:bootpc dpt:bootps > > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > > > > tcp spt:bootpc dpt:bootps > > ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere > > > > > udp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc > > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > > > > tcp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc > > ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere > > > > > udp dpt:domain > > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > > > > tcp dpt:domain > > DROP tcp -- anywhere > 127.0.0.0/8 > > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > > > > > state RELATED,ESTABLISHED > > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > > DROP all -- BASE-ADDRESS.MCAST.NET/4 > > anywhere > > PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere > > PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere > > PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere > > DROP all -- anywhere anywhere > > > > Chain FORWARD (policy DROP) > > target prot opt source > destination > > ACCEPT all -- 192.168.0.0/24 anywhere > > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > > > > > state RELATED,ESTABLISHED > > > > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) > > target prot opt source > destination > > PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From sonofrage at yahoo.com Wed May 29 01:30:31 2002 From: sonofrage at yahoo.com (Samuel Morales Jr.) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: setting up common location for mozilla bookmarks and email In-Reply-To: <20020523193419.37360.qmail@web11306.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020529053034.73194.qmail@web14207.mail.yahoo.com> What I do is store my bookmarks somewhere else. I use Yahoo Bookmarks. This way, no matter where I am, I can access my bookmarks. --- umar wrote: > hi there, > > can someone guide me on how to set up the bookmarks > of > mozilla in such a way that both windows and linux > versions of mozilla can access same bookmarks > (obviously they would store somewhere in windows > partition but dont know exactly where and how). > Also, > I would like to do same for emails so that I can > access my email account no matter which OS I am > running. > > Umar > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Thu May 30 10:55:35 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: Libretto 100CT Message-ID: <1022770535.26133.9.camel@polo> Hello Everyone, I've got a little bit of a favor to ask. Since we're all pretty local, I have a libretto 100Ct, it's a tiny little laptop, no CD or floppy they're all external. However I don't have a CD or Floppy for it, and it's some kind of PCMCIA floppy. It's like $99 to order. What I want to do is put redhat on it and make it a little networked MP3 player, however I need a floppy or CD to boot with. Does anyone have this laptop or a similar model that would let me borrow a cd or floppy (can do net install), I only need it for the install.... Justin -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Dynabrade using MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From green_man at bluefrognet.net Thu May 30 20:35:44 2002 From: green_man at bluefrognet.net (S. Lawton ) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: Legacy Parts In-Reply-To: <002601c20031$32a0ed40$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <3CF68D20.14723.B75BF5@localhost> On 20 May 2002, at 15:04, Ronald Maggio wrote, in part: [EDIT] ... or start up some kind of trading post here on the list for people who have a buy or sell list to offer other members. Just a thought? Also we can advertise somehow or someway to the public as to somewhere to sell or trade your stuff since legacy equipment is getting as hard to find as a hen's teeth. Not sure how this would work, because I know ZERO about web design, but possibly a page on the NFLUG website and a ma--- domo for the messaging ? My brother raises chickens- hen's teeth I might actually be able to get ! :-) Scott Registered Linux User 261118 From green_man at bluefrognet.net Thu May 30 20:35:44 2002 From: green_man at bluefrognet.net (S. Lawton ) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: meeting In-Reply-To: <20020520134027.59957.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> References: <1021746290.2355.10.camel@Office> Message-ID: <3CF68D20.16306.B75D58@localhost> On 20 May 2002, at 6:40, Robert Meyer wrote: > > If there's time, after the install. I'd like to have a shot at possibly > answering > some questions and demonstrating printer setups and a couple of > other things. We could use the installed machine for this since it > will be a totally clean machine so there will be no surprises. > Got to the MAY meeting late, and forgot to ask if it was discussed. Are we planning for the 16th ? I realize it's not a religious holiday, but I expect many of the members have or are fathers. I have a shipload of questions about sound, video [OpenGL?], modems, games [none of the linux games from the rpms work, but I did get Open Universe going] , and printer setup ,and I don't want to miss the install presentation. Scott Registered Linux User 261118 From green_man at bluefrognet.net Thu May 30 20:54:04 2002 From: green_man at bluefrognet.net (S. Lawton ) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: Meeting Postscript Message-ID: <3CF6916C.19160.C82645@localhost> PS: If anyone has Mandrake 8.2 on cd, how many disks is it ? Please make a copy and bring it, I'll pick up some cd-r's to to replace them. Thanks. Scott Registered Linux User 261118 From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Thu May 30 22:02:24 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: Legacy Parts References: <3CF68D20.14723.B75BF5@localhost> Message-ID: <3CF6D9B0.76235ABC@dynabrade.com> I can set something like this up if needs be, either on the NFLUG page, or my page. Let me know if anyone is interested. Maybe an an auction page. If anyone is interested in this, we could bring it up at the meeting. "S. Lawton" wrote: > On 20 May 2002, at 15:04, Ronald Maggio wrote, in part: > > [EDIT] > ... or start up some kind of trading post here on the list for > people who have a buy or sell list to offer other members. > Just a thought? Also we can advertise somehow or someway > to the public as to somewhere to sell or trade your stuff since > legacy equipment is getting as hard to find as a hen's teeth. > > Not sure how this would work, because I know ZERO about web > design, but possibly a page on the NFLUG website and a ma--- > domo for the messaging ? > > My brother raises chickens- > hen's teeth I might actually be able to get ! :-) > > Scott > > Registered Linux User 261118 > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Dynabrade using MailScanner, > and is believed to be clean. From Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com Fri May 31 11:06:19 2002 From: Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com (Riga, Anthony) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C4D@bu2102.searbrown.com> Does anyone know of a good ftp software that I can use for Redhat 7.3 to transfer my files to my Adelphias web page ftp server. I am running the KDE environment. I know there is a software called Cute Ftp that I used for windows but I dont think for Linux.. i would really want it for Linux I am 100% switched over now no longer a need for Winblows. From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Fri May 31 11:13:36 2002 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: your mail In-Reply-To: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C4D@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: Client -> try gftp (GUI) ftp (text) ncftp (text) > Does anyone know of a good ftp software that I can use for Redhat 7.3 to transfer my files to my Adelphias web page ftp server. I am running the KDE environment. I know there is a software called Cute Ftp that I used for windows but I dont think for Linux.. i would really want it for Linux I am 100% switched over now no longer a need for Winblows. > Dege So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny .... If They Weren't Happening To Me From bradbartram at wycol.com Fri May 31 11:34:26 2002 From: bradbartram at wycol.com (Bradley J. Bartram) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: In-Reply-To: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C4D@bu2102.searbrown.com> References: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C4D@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <200205311134.26783.bradbartram@wycol.com> I personally use gFTP under KDE on Mandrake. Or command line `ftp`. brad On Friday 31 May 2002 11:06 am, Riga, Anthony wrote: > Does anyone know of a good ftp software that I can use for Redhat 7.3 to > transfer my files to my Adelphias web page ftp server. I am running the KDE > environment. I know there is a software called Cute Ftp that I used for > windows but I dont think for Linux.. i would really want it for Linux I am > 100% switched over now no longer a need for Winblows. From jbielli at netsos.com Fri May 31 11:33:29 2002 From: jbielli at netsos.com (Joe Bielli) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: In-Reply-To: <200205311134.26783.bradbartram@wycol.com> Message-ID: <001001c208b8$83a0e6c0$07437fcf@CSOS.NETSOS.COM> A good console mode menu driven ftp client for linux would be 'nftp'. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Bradley J. Bartram Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:34 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: I personally use gFTP under KDE on Mandrake. Or command line `ftp`. brad On Friday 31 May 2002 11:06 am, Riga, Anthony wrote: > Does anyone know of a good ftp software that I can use for Redhat 7.3 to > transfer my files to my Adelphias web page ftp server. I am running the KDE > environment. I know there is a software called Cute Ftp that I used for > windows but I dont think for Linux.. i would really want it for Linux I am > 100% switched over now no longer a need for Winblows. From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 31 11:53:14 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: In-Reply-To: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C4D@bu2102.searbrown.com> References: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C4D@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <1022860394.4913.38.camel@Office> I am big fan of gftp. On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 11:06, Riga, Anthony wrote: Does anyone know of a good ftp software that I can use for Redhat 7.3 to transfer my files to my Adelphias web page ftp server. I am running the KDE environment. I know there is a software called Cute Ftp that I used for windows but I dont think for Linux.. i would really want it for Linux I am 100% switched over now no longer a need for Winblows. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020601/7791a8b4/attachment.html From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Fri May 31 13:07:15 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: What is an .rpm file? and how do you use it? In-Reply-To: <20020531163924.46680.qmail@web14202.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020531163924.46680.qmail@web14202.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1022864836.30729.15.camel@polo> On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 12:39, Joseph Lukasiewicz wrote: > > Hi, > > I came across a site that said they had a preconfigured (older Red Hat) kernel for an Alpha that had SMP and the Mylex DAC960 Controller. [Google search DEC Alpha DAC960 - it was late, I was bored] kernel-smp-2.2.17-14.alpha RPM > > > Q1) The file name is quite long ending in .rpm - What is this and how does it work? > It's a package file, it is the most common, and easy way to install programs on a linux system. There are GUI tools, kpackage, ect to install RPMS, or the command of rpm. you can install, uninstall, and upgrade RPMS easily. > Q2) How hard is it to "upgrade" from one level of linux to the next - say 6 to 7 on RedHat? > The easiest way is to get the new CD you want to upgrade to, and boot off of it, and run the upgrade install. It usually works pretty well.. Better than MS 'Upgrades' that makes you reinstall office and other software after... > Joe Lukasiewicz > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Dynabrade using MailScanner, > and is believed to be clean. > -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Dynabrade using MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Fri May 31 13:39:41 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: Meeting Postscript In-Reply-To: <3CF6916C.19160.C82645@localhost> Message-ID: <20020531173941.52796.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> It's three disks and I have them. --- "S. Lawton " wrote: > PS: > If anyone has Mandrake 8.2 on cd, how many disks is it ? > Please make a copy and bring it, I'll pick up some cd-r's to to > replace them. > Thanks. > > > Scott > > Registered Linux User 261118 ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From javabob at localnet.com Fri May 31 20:48:40 2002 From: javabob at localnet.com (Robert F. Stockdale IV) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: FTP Client References: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C4D@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <3CF819E8.8030004@localnet.com> I like gftp as it works real nice and has a graphical interface. I haven't discovered a need as of yet for a commandline ftp client. Only problem is it crashes on my workstation once every 3 months or so. When I find time I'll download the source code and compile it from scratch. Hopefully it will be more stable then. Bob Riga, Anthony wrote: > Does anyone know of a good ftp software that I can use for Redhat 7.3 to transfer my files to my Adelphias web page ftp server. I am running the KDE environment. I know there is a software called Cute Ftp that I used for windows but I dont think for Linux.. i would really want it for Linux I am 100% switched over now no longer a need for Winblows. > > > From pvant67 at wnyip.net Fri May 31 21:51:56 2002 From: pvant67 at wnyip.net (peter) Date: Sun Oct 16 11:52:16 2005 Subject: ftp clients References: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C4D@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <3CF828BC.1030405@wnyip.net> my lazy choice: gftp or mozilla my traditiona choice: command line ftp and a few minutes if bash scripting. hope this helps. -- "Truly, if Te is strong in one, all one needs to do is sit on one's ass, and the corpse of one's enemy shall be carried past shortly." -- spotted somewhere on Usenet From robromito at adelphia.net Wed May 1 13:23:04 2002 From: robromito at adelphia.net (Robert Romito) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:49 2007 Subject: OpenOffice 1.0 Now Available Message-ID: <3CD02478.6060503@adelphia.net> OpenOffice is based on StarOffice 5.2. Version 1.0 has officially been released. I switched from StarOffice 6.0 when my beta expired and found out Sun would be charging for StarOffice 6.0. OpenOffice is a solid office suite and worth trying - available for Linux and Windows. http://www.openoffice.org Enjoy! Robert Romito From peter at thecybersource.com Wed May 1 13:39:06 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:49 2007 Subject: OpenOffice 1.0 Now Available In-Reply-To: <3CD02478.6060503@adelphia.net> References: <3CD02478.6060503@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1020274747.2255.2.camel@Office> It is included in the Mandrake 8.2 distro. It is by default NOT selected in the install routine but is only a checkbox away. I've been using it, works well although I have found a couple of glitches, like this very annoying border frame it puts around my envelope addresses that I can remove and save but still opens up with them there.
On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 13:23, Robert Romito wrote:

OpenOffice is based on StarOffice 5.2.  Version 1.0 has officially been 
released.  I switched from StarOffice 6.0 when my beta expired and found 
out Sun would be charging for StarOffice 6.0.  OpenOffice is a solid 
office suite and worth trying - available for Linux and Windows.

http://www.openoffice.org

Enjoy!

Robert Romito

From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Wed May 1 13:48:25 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:49 2007 Subject: OpenOffice 1.0 Now Available In-Reply-To: <3CD02478.6060503@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <20020501174825.76761.qmail@web13308.mail.yahoo.com> I downloaded and installed it today. I was having a problem with a spreadsheet that I tried to import from Excel but it kept crashing both OpenOffice and Koffice. It works (with minor glitches) in OpenOffice 1.0. Also, for anyone that downloaded the beta versions of OpenOffice, only to find that the stuff to make KDE work wasn't there, there is now a kde/share directory with applnks and mimetype directories that can be copied directly to $HOME/.kde/share. Remember that for Mandrake KDE, applnk is really applnk-mdk. I copied them into my kde dir and everything worked, right off. Another satisfied customer... Cheers! Bob --- Robert Romito wrote: > OpenOffice is based on StarOffice 5.2. Version 1.0 has officially been > released. I switched from StarOffice 6.0 when my beta expired and found > out Sun would be charging for StarOffice 6.0. OpenOffice is a solid > office suite and worth trying - available for Linux and Windows. > > http://www.openoffice.org > > Enjoy! > > Robert Romito > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil Wed May 1 14:55:55 2002 From: WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil (Wechter, Ron) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:49 2007 Subject: OpenOffice 1.0 Now Available Message-ID: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8AC@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil>

If OpenOffice.org 1.0 was just released how was it distributed with Mandrake?

-----Original Message-----
From: Cyber Source [mailto:peter@thecybersource.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:39 PM
To: nflug@nflug.org
Subject: Re: OpenOffice 1.0 Now Available

It is included in the Mandrake 8.2 distro. It is by default NOT selected in the install routine but is only a checkbox away. I've been using it, works well although I have found a couple of glitches, like this very annoying border frame it puts around my envelope addresses that I can remove and save but still opens up with them there.
On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 13:23, Robert Romito wrote:
OpenOffice is based on StarOffice 5.2.  Version 1.0 has officially been 
released.  I switched from StarOffice 6.0 when my beta expired and found 
out Sun would be charging for StarOffice 6.0.  OpenOffice is a solid 
office suite and worth trying - available for Linux and Windows.

http://www.openoffice.org

Enjoy!

Robert Romito

From gjn at certainlywood.com Wed May 1 15:35:54 2002 From: gjn at certainlywood.com (Gregory J. Neumann) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:49 2007 Subject: OpenOffice 1.0 Now Available In-Reply-To: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8AC@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <3CD00B5A.9122.C52388@localhost> It's not "exactly" the 1.0 release. I remember something about it on the OpenOffice.org mailing lists, but I can't remember exactly what was said. I've been using the 641D build on Win98 since it was available, and I like it alot. The only down side is that Star Office 5.x had a "paint shop" like image editor that OOo doesn't have. Past that, 641D is more stable and faster than Star Office 5.x, and so similar to Star Office 6 beta that I can't tell the difference - except OOo is more stable. One caveat, DON'T save to Word format and reopen it expecting it to look the same! They make no guarantees on that. But do get it! -Greg > If OpenOffice.org 1.0 was just released how was it distributed with > Mandrake? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cyber Source [mailto:peter@thecybersource.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:39 PM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: Re: OpenOffice 1.0 Now Available > > > It is included in the Mandrake 8.2 distro. It is by default NOT selected in > the install routine but is only a checkbox away. I've been using it, works > well although I have found a couple of glitches, like this very annoying > border frame it puts around my envelope addresses that I can remove and save > but still opens up with them there. > On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 13:23, Robert Romito wrote: > > OpenOffice is based on StarOffice 5.2. Version 1.0 has officially been > > released. I switched from StarOffice 6.0 when my beta expired and found > > out Sun would be charging for StarOffice 6.0. OpenOffice is a solid > > office suite and worth trying - available for Linux and Windows. > > > > http://www.openoffice.org > > > > Enjoy! > > > > Robert Romito > > From peter at thecybersource.com Wed May 1 18:03:38 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:49 2007 Subject: OpenOffice 1.0 Now Available In-Reply-To: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8AC@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> References: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8AC@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <1020290621.2217.0.camel@Office> it's not the same version
On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 14:55, Wechter, Ron wrote:

If OpenOffice.org 1.0 was just released how was it distributed with Mandrake?
-----Original Message-----
From: Cyber Source [mailto:peter@thecybersource.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:39 PM
To: nflug@nflug.org
Subject: Re: OpenOffice 1.0 Now Available

It is included in the Mandrake 8.2 distro. It is by default NOT selected in the install routine but is only a checkbox away. I've been using it, works well although I have found a couple of glitches, like this very annoying border frame it puts around my envelope addresses that I can remove and save but still opens up with them there.
On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 13:23, Robert Romito wrote:
OpenOffice is based on StarOffice 5.2.  Version 1.0 has officially been 
released.  I switched from StarOffice 6.0 when my beta expired and found 
out Sun would be charging for StarOffice 6.0.  OpenOffice is a solid 
office suite and worth trying - available for Linux and Windows.

http://www.openoffice.org

Enjoy!

Robert Romito

From Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com Fri May 3 07:31:49 2002 From: Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com (Riga, Anthony) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:49 2007 Subject: Samba Message-ID: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F30337706569A@bu2102.searbrown.com> I am running Samba server dual boot with windoze 2000 with Redhat 7.1 now because for the 5th time my Redhat 7.2 keeps crashing. I think I have a bad distro. Every once in awhile my nmbd daemon stops running. How can I restart it? When I use the command /etc/init.d/smb both say ok but when I look in SWAT its not running. The only one running is smbd daemon. Can anyone explain what I am doing wrong . I do test parm everything is fine I restart xinet.d its fine. From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Fri May 3 08:20:09 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:49 2007 Subject: Samba References: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F30337706569A@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <3CD28079.154DA1D4@dynabrade.com> which versions of samba are you using. I believe 7.1 is 2.0.7 and 7.2 is the new 2.2 samba series. I had a lot of grief with samba 2.2 loosing connections, users would loose access to their files and shares from 2000 clients, ect. SO on my 7.2 samba server I downgraded to samba 2.0.7 (the one from 7.1 if I remeber correctly) so I would believe the Dist. is ok, just some problems with the samba packaged with it. I would look for a new samba package, or if you do a rpm -qa |grep samba on the 7.2 box it will tell you what version of samba, I may have a newver one (I'm beta testing skipjack (the new redhat release). It may have a better samba package. Justin "Riga, Anthony" wrote: > I am running Samba server dual boot with windoze 2000 with Redhat 7.1 now because for the 5th time my Redhat 7.2 keeps crashing. I think I have a bad distro. Every once in awhile my nmbd daemon stops running. How can I restart it? When I use the command /etc/init.d/smb both say ok but when I look in SWAT its not running. The only one running is smbd daemon. Can anyone explain what I am doing wrong . I do test parm everything is fine I restart xinet.d its fine. -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 3 08:18:46 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:49 2007 Subject: galeon Message-ID: <1020428327.4449.2.camel@Office> Hello All,
Does anyone know how to add the shockwave plugin to the galeon web browser? It is a great browser but so many sites today are using shockwave it is almost necessary to have that plugin. I know it is based on mozilla and needs mozilla to run but I'm not sure where the files are for the plugin. Anyone?

From Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com Fri May 3 08:36:50 2002 From: Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com (Riga, Anthony) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:49 2007 Subject: galeon Message-ID: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063BF8@bu2102.searbrown.com>

I have had problems trying to load the shockwave plugins on netscape and mozilla. Let me know too!

-----Original Message-----
From: Cyber Source [mailto:peter@thecybersource.com]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 8:19 AM
To: nflug@nflug.org
Subject: galeon

Hello All,
Does anyone know how to add the shockwave plugin to the galeon web browser? It is a great browser but so many sites today are using shockwave it is almost necessary to have that plugin. I know it is based on mozilla and needs mozilla to run but I'm not sure where the files are for the plugin. Anyone?

From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Fri May 3 08:38:01 2002 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:49 2007 Subject: galeon In-Reply-To: <1020428327.4449.2.camel@Office> Message-ID: Are you sure Macromedia ported Shockwave to linux? I thought only Flash was available for the linux distro. But the only way I can think of would be to copy the 2 flash plugin files into your browser's plugin directory & see if gets identified by your browser upon startup. > Does anyone know how to add the shockwave plugin to the galeon web > browser? It is a great browser but so many sites today are using > shockwave it is almost necessary to have that plugin. I know it is based > on mozilla and needs mozilla to run but I'm not sure where the files are > for the plugin. Anyone? Dege So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny .... If They Weren't Happening To Me From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 3 08:50:14 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:49 2007 Subject: galeon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1020430215.4449.11.camel@Office> I've downloaded and installed the new netscape and installed the flash on there and it works great. However, I am starting to prefer Galeon over Netscape because you can disable those very annoying popups in Galeon, Very cool feature! and it works!. So I know that flash will work on Linux, because I currently have it running on Netscape, same machine. I think the problem is, I can't find the plugin directory for Mozilla, which I believe and have read, is really the backend to Galeon. I have looked in my ~/.mozilla directory and don't see any plugin directory there or down further in the tree....
On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 08:38, Robert Dege wrote:

Are you sure Macromedia ported Shockwave to linux?  I thought only Flash
was available for the linux distro.  But the only way I can think of would
be to copy the 2 flash plugin files into your browser's plugin directory &
see if gets identified by your browser upon startup.



>   Does anyone know how to add the shockwave plugin to the galeon web
> browser? It is a great browser but so many sites today are using
> shockwave it is almost necessary to have that plugin. I know it is based
> on mozilla and needs mozilla to run but I'm not sure where the files are
> for the plugin. Anyone?



Dege

So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny
.... If They Weren't Happening To Me

From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Fri May 3 09:08:26 2002 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:49 2007 Subject: Samba In-Reply-To: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F30337706569A@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: Okay, you can check the status of samba by doing: /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb status to restart the Samba service: /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb restart xinet.d is only used by Samba in conjunction with Swat. If xinet.d in not running, it does not impair Samba's functionality. It only prevents you from using Swat (for configuring Samba) If swat says that it's not running, but `/etc/rc.d/init/d/smb status` says that it is, try doing: ps -ef | grep nmbd This should let you know. -Rob ======== > I am running Samba server dual boot with windoze 2000 with Redhat 7.1 now because for the 5th time my Redhat 7.2 keeps crashing. I think I have a bad distro. Every once in awhile my nmbd daemon stops running. How can I restart it? When I use the command /etc/init.d/smb both say ok but when I look in SWAT its not running. The only one running is smbd daemon. Can anyone explain what I am doing wrong . I do test parm everything is fine I restart xinet.d its fine. Dege So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny .... If They Weren't Happening To Me From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Fri May 3 09:14:06 2002 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:49 2007 Subject: galeon In-Reply-To: <1020430215.4449.11.camel@Office> Message-ID: For Mozilla, I put almost all the plugins in the global plugins directory, which is mozilla/plugins (where ever mozilla is installed). Relaunching the browser -> about:plugins shows the current list of plugins used. I find user plugins restrictive if/when I swap between root & my local user. But that's my caveat ;) -Rob > I've downloaded and installed the new netscape and installed the flash > on there and it works great. However, I am starting to prefer Galeon > over Netscape because you can disable those very annoying popups in > Galeon, Very cool feature! and it works!. So I know that flash will work > on Linux, because I currently have it running on Netscape, same machine. > I think the problem is, I can't find the plugin directory for Mozilla, > which I believe and have read, is really the backend to Galeon. I have > looked in my ~/.mozilla directory and don't see any plugin directory > there or down further in the tree.... > On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 08:38, Robert Dege wrote: > > Are you sure Macromedia ported Shockwave to linux? I thought only Flash > was available for the linux distro. But the only way I can think of would > be to copy the 2 flash plugin files into your browser's plugin directory & > see if gets identified by your browser upon startup. > > > > > Does anyone know how to add the shockwave plugin to the galeon web > > browser? It is a great browser but so many sites today are using > > shockwave it is almost necessary to have that plugin. I know it is based > > on mozilla and needs mozilla to run but I'm not sure where the files are > > for the plugin. Anyone? > > > > Dege > > So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny > .... If They Weren't Happening To Me > > Dege So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny .... If They Weren't Happening To Me From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Fri May 3 09:37:55 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:49 2007 Subject: Samba In-Reply-To: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F30337706569A@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <20020503133755.44235.qmail@web13307.mail.yahoo.com> Check /var/log/samba/log.nmb and /var/log/samba/log.smb for errors. Samba is usually pretty good about identifying what it's not happy about. You can restart it by typing '/etc/init.d/smb restart'. It appears that your startup script does a status by default. Mine just gives an error message saying that it requires an argument. The 'status' argument on Mandrake 8.2 first tries to find the processes and then it looks in '/var/run/' for nmb.pid and smb.pid. If the 'pid' file exists, it assumes the process is running. xinetd is only for 'swat'. Samba doesn't use it. Check the error messages in /var/log/samba and see if there's anything that calls out a problem. Usually the biggest thing that will keep samba from starting is not being able to find the current host name in /etc/hosts or DNS. That's how it gets the IP address of the interface that it's supposed to use. Hope this helps... Cheers! Bob (trying to function on < 3 hours of sleep...) --- "Riga, Anthony" wrote: > I am running Samba server dual boot with windoze 2000 with Redhat 7.1 now > because for the 5th time my Redhat 7.2 keeps crashing. I think I have a bad > distro. Every once in awhile my nmbd daemon stops running. How can I restart > it? When I use the command /etc/init.d/smb both say ok but when I look in > SWAT its not running. The only one running is smbd daemon. Can anyone explain > what I am doing wrong . I do test parm everything is fine I restart xinet.d > its fine. ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From jbielli at netsos.com Fri May 3 10:22:35 2002 From: jbielli at netsos.com (Joe Bielli) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:49 2007 Subject: netatalk+asun woes Message-ID: <001701c1f2ad$f8ad3750$07437fcf@CSOS.NETSOS.COM>

I am having an extremely odd problem with netatalk, and I’m not sure if anyone else has experienced this.

Basically, I have the linux box in a mixed mac/pc environment, its running samba and netatalk to provide file share access to the network.

heres my atalkd.conf:

eth1 -router -phase 2 -net 1-400 -addr 1.51 -zone "MYZONE"

dummy0 -router -phase 2 -net 500-600 -addr 500.75 -zone "MYZONE"

my afpd.conf:

- "DYNAMO" -transall -uamlist uams_guest.so,uams_clrtxt.so,uams_dhx.so -nosavepassword

AppleVolumes.default:

/storage/stor Storage options:noadouble,crlf

/storage/utpub UTPublic options:noadouble,crlf

/storage/graphics MACGraphics options:noadouble,crlf

Finding good information on netatalk seems to be difficult, apparently its primarily used in Europe J

Thanks!!!!

Joe Bielli

Software Development

Computer SOS, Inc.

1505 Cleveland Drive

Buffalo, NY 14225

From WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil Fri May 3 10:29:11 2002 From: WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil (Wechter, Ron) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: netatalk+asun woes Message-ID: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8BD@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil>

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Bielli [mailto:jbielli@netsos.com]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:23 AM
To: nflug@nflug.org
Subject: netatalk+asun woes

I am having an extremely odd problem with netatalk, and I'm not sure if anyone else has experienced this.

Basically, I have the linux box in a mixed mac/pc environment, its running samba and netatalk to provide file share access to the network.

The problem is, when dragging/dropping folders to the shares from a mac, I get a file access error, the folder is locked, etc.. I can drag as many files as I want, individually, however when I try to drag a folder containing files, it stops around 1.5 megabytes and gives me the error.. has anyone experienced this odd problem? Of course I have already verified permissions on the box..

Also, for anyone interested.. I had a major problem having netatalk seed a zone AND serve up shares.. to seed a zone, it seems you need to have multiple interfaces.. if you want to serve up files, the server needs to be running on a 'different' interface than the one you are seeding the zone on.. I accomplished this by routing between the internal lan (eth1) and dummy0..

heres my atalkd.conf:

eth1 -router -phase 2 -net 1-400 -addr 1.51 -zone "MYZONE"

dummy0 -router -phase 2 -net 500-600 -addr 500.75 -zone "MYZONE"

my afpd.conf:

- "DYNAMO" -transall -uamlist uams_guest.so,uams_clrtxt.so,uams_dhx.so -nosavepassword

AppleVolumes.default:

~

/storage/stor Storage options:noadouble,crlf

/storage/utpub UTPublic options:noadouble,crlf

/storage/graphics MACGraphics options:noadouble,crlf

Finding good information on netatalk seems to be difficult, apparently its primarily used in Europe J

Thanks!!!!

Joe Bielli

Software Development

Computer SOS, Inc.

1505 Cleveland Drive

Buffalo, NY 14225

From gjn at certainlywood.com Fri May 3 13:13:06 2002 From: gjn at certainlywood.com (Gregory J. Neumann) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Samba In-Reply-To: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F30337706569A@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <3CD28CE2.30749.79196B@localhost> You can always type "nmbd -D" in a root console if "smbd" is still running. This often works for me, but I've never had Samba mysteriously kill nmbd processes. Usually it involves an ugly crash (are there any other kind?) of one of the windoze clients. Also, I'm just using Samba to provide access to the Linux server. BTW, why not just go to ftp.samba.org and get 2.2.4? Just out today! Be aware that Red Hat (maybe Mandrake, too?) puts Samba in different directories than the default source. There's instructions on how to handle it in the docs and on the website. 2.2.x did have some problems, and 2.2.3a was really the one you needed, but now that 2.2.4 is out, I'd just go to that. Just stirring things up! -Greg > I am running Samba server dual boot with windoze 2000 with Redhat 7.1 now because for the 5th time my Redhat 7.2 keeps crashing. I think I have a bad distro. Every once in awhile my nmbd daemon stops running. How can I restart it? When I use the command /etc/init.d/smb both say ok but when I look in SWAT its not running. The only one running is smbd daemon. Can anyone explain what I am doing wrong . I do test parm everything is fine I restart xinet.d its fine. From todd at phyberoptiks.net Sat May 4 00:35:37 2002 From: todd at phyberoptiks.net (Todd Wirth) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Samba In-Reply-To: <3CD28079.154DA1D4@dynabrade.com> Message-ID: <004901c1f325$2383bc20$02fea8c0@pepsi> I'm not sure about RedHat, but you might want to check how nmbd is starting up. Heres a section from nmbd man page that applies AFAIK: ------- OPTIONS -D If specified, this parameter causes nmbd to operate as a daemon. That is, it detaches itself and runs in the background, fielding requests on the appropriate port. By default, nmbd will operate as a daemon if launched from a command shell. nmbd can also be operated from the inetd meta-daemon, although this is not recommended. ------- This should solve your problem if it is being run from inet.d. Like I said though, I'm not sure on how RedHat starts these up. -- Todd "Riga, Anthony" wrote: > I am running Samba server dual boot with windoze 2000 with Redhat 7.1 now because for the 5th time my Redhat 7.2 keeps crashing. I think I have a bad distro. Every once in awhile my nmbd daemon stops running. How can I restart it? When I use the command /etc/init.d/smb both say ok but when I look in SWAT its not running. The only one running is smbd daemon. Can anyone explain what I am doing wrong . I do test parm everything is fine I restart xinet.d its fine. From peter at thecybersource.com Sat May 4 08:40:16 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: galeon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1020516017.6539.2.camel@Office> Well that's all it was. Just had to know where the plugins directory was for mozilla. On my Mandrake 8.2 it turned out to be /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins , I copied the flash files into that directory and that was it! Now I really like this Galeon browser!
On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 09:14, Robert Dege wrote:

For Mozilla, I put almost all the plugins in the global plugins directory,
which is mozilla/plugins (where ever mozilla is installed).

Relaunching the browser -> about:plugins shows the current list of plugins
used.  I find user plugins restrictive if/when I swap between root & my
local user.  But that's my caveat ;)

-Rob

> I've downloaded and installed the new netscape and installed the flash
> on there and it works great. However, I am starting to prefer Galeon
> over Netscape because you can disable those very annoying popups in
> Galeon, Very cool feature! and it works!. So I know that flash will work
> on Linux, because I currently have it running on Netscape, same machine.
> I think the problem is, I can't find the plugin directory for Mozilla,
> which I believe and have read, is really the backend to Galeon. I have
> looked in my ~/.mozilla directory and don't see any plugin directory
> there or down further in the tree....
> On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 08:38, Robert Dege wrote:
>
>     Are you sure Macromedia ported Shockwave to linux?  I thought only Flash
>     was available for the linux distro.  But the only way I can think of would
>     be to copy the 2 flash plugin files into your browser's plugin directory &
>     see if gets identified by your browser upon startup.
>
>
>
>     >   Does anyone know how to add the shockwave plugin to the galeon web
>     > browser? It is a great browser but so many sites today are using
>     > shockwave it is almost necessary to have that plugin. I know it is based
>     > on mozilla and needs mozilla to run but I'm not sure where the files are
>     > for the plugin. Anyone?
>
>
>
>     Dege
>
>     So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny
>     .... If They Weren't Happening To Me
>
>



Dege

So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny
.... If They Weren't Happening To Me

From green_man at bluefrognet.net Sun May 5 21:09:41 2002 From: green_man at bluefrognet.net (S. Lawton) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Modems Message-ID: <3CD59F95.382.1D1C7BD@localhost> Which would be easier, to install an external modem, or recompile my kernel with the neccessary drivers to make the HSP modem card work ? My goals are: a) to NOT crash my linux box anymore. b) to get the aforementioned on the internet with as little grief as possible. I know absolutely nothing about external modems except that they're an external device with all the HARDWARE required to do what a modem is supposed to do. I have a serial and two USB ports available. I have located and downloaded the [hopefully] correct targz with the drivers to make the PCtel HSP56 software modem work in linux, but I don't think I have the compiler unless Mandrake 8.1 gave it as part of the default rpms. I have the PCtel modem mini-Howto if anyone cares to read it for correctness. It makes a big deal about how you can break your machine and do this entirely at your own risk, and I'm very hesitant to fool with my kernel. Any input for or against either option gratefully accepted. Scott Registered Linux User 261118 From bradbartram at wycol.com Sun May 5 21:55:22 2002 From: bradbartram at wycol.com (Bradley J. Bartram) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Modems In-Reply-To: <3CD59F95.382.1D1C7BD@localhost> References: <3CD59F95.382.1D1C7BD@localhost> Message-ID: <200205052155.22911.bradbartram@wycol.com> >From personal experience, I have tried many, many different internal modems with Linux. I tried win modems, other software based modems, hardware modems and even an old non-pnp ISA slot modem. I could get them to work, although I always had problems. Examples would include poor line speed, frequent dropped connections, un-reliable connection initializations, etc.. My problem was solved when I bought a top of the line hayes v.90 fax modem for way too much money. When an electrical surge from a nearby lightning hit melted it last summer, I bought some cheap no-name replacement external v.90 modem. I think it's a cnet something or other. Anyway, I currently use that modem, and have been without problem. This modem is an almost dedicated connection and can easily stay connected for 7 - 14 days without a hiccup. Long story short, go external, they may cost a little more but they're worth it in the long run. Just my $.02 brad On Sunday 05 May 2002 09:09 pm, S. Lawton wrote: > Which would be easier, to install an external modem, or recompile > my kernel with the neccessary drivers to make the HSP modem > card work ? > > My goals are: a) to NOT crash my linux box anymore. > b) to get the aforementioned on the internet with as > little grief as possible. > > I know absolutely nothing about external modems except that > they're an external device with all the HARDWARE required to do > what a modem is supposed to do. I have a serial and two USB > ports available. > > I have located and downloaded the [hopefully] correct targz with the > drivers to make the PCtel HSP56 software modem work in linux, > but I don't think I have the compiler unless Mandrake 8.1 gave it as > part of the default rpms. I have the PCtel modem mini-Howto if > anyone cares to read it for correctness. It makes a big deal about > how you can break your machine and do this entirely at your own > risk, and I'm very hesitant to fool with my kernel. > > Any input for or against either option gratefully accepted. > > > Scott > > Registered Linux User 261118 From peter at thecybersource.com Sun May 5 23:02:10 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Modems In-Reply-To: <200205052155.22911.bradbartram@wycol.com> References: <3CD59F95.382.1D1C7BD@localhost> <200205052155.22911.bradbartram@wycol.com> Message-ID: <1020654131.3070.7.camel@Office> I have been using PCI software modems in Mandrake 8.2 and 8.1 and have not had any problems in many of the installs that I have done. I've got it down to a science on the current modems that we stock for $20.00. They are Aceex 56K V90 PCI modems with Conexant HSF chipset. I found the driver on linmodems.org and there are drivers for that particular modem for alot of the different Linux distros. The install was in French but I figured it out ok. I can literally install that modem in a Mandrake 8.2 or 8.1 in less than a minute. Haven't tried other distros. If you want on of those modems, let me know, I can also give you the driver on floppy. 553-8525 Peter
On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 21:55, Bradley J. Bartram wrote:

>From personal experience, I have tried many, many different internal modems 
with Linux.  I tried win modems, other software based modems, hardware modems 
and even an old non-pnp ISA slot modem.  I could get them to work, although I 
always had problems.  Examples would include poor line speed, frequent 
dropped connections, un-reliable connection initializations, etc..

My problem was solved when I bought a top of the line hayes v.90 fax modem for 
way too much money.  When an electrical surge from a nearby lightning hit 
melted it last summer, I bought some cheap no-name replacement external v.90 
modem.  I think it's a cnet something or other.  Anyway, I currently use that 
modem, and have been without problem.  This modem is an almost dedicated 
connection and can easily stay connected for 7 - 14 days without a hiccup.

Long story short, go external, they may cost a little more but they're worth 
it in the long run.  Just my $.02

brad

On Sunday 05 May 2002 09:09 pm, S. Lawton  wrote:
> Which would be easier, to install an external modem, or recompile
> my kernel with the neccessary drivers to make the HSP modem
> card work ?
>
> My goals are: a) to NOT crash my linux box anymore.
>                      b) to get the aforementioned on the internet with as
> little grief as possible.
>
> I know absolutely nothing about external modems except that
> they're an external device with all the HARDWARE required to do
> what a modem is supposed to do. I have a serial and two USB
> ports available.
>
> I have located and downloaded the [hopefully] correct targz with the
> drivers to make the PCtel HSP56 software modem work in linux,
> but I don't think I have the compiler unless Mandrake 8.1 gave it as
> part of the default rpms. I have the PCtel modem mini-Howto if
> anyone cares to read it for correctness. It makes a big deal about
> how you can break your machine and do this entirely at your own
> risk, and I'm very hesitant to fool with my kernel.
>
> Any input for or against either option gratefully accepted.
>
>
> Scott
>
> Registered Linux User 261118

From javabob at localnet.com Mon May 6 05:13:51 2002 From: javabob at localnet.com (Robert F. Stockdale IV) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Modems References: <3CD59F95.382.1D1C7BD@localhost> Message-ID: <3CD6494F.9070709@localnet.com> Easiest would definitely be to plug in an external modem. I won't run internal. I've got a Zoom V.92 and I never have problems with it. Run it from my server in a home mini network (Still under configuration). Bob S. Lawton wrote: > Which would be easier, to install an external modem, or recompile > my kernel with the neccessary drivers to make the HSP modem > card work ? > > My goals are: a) to NOT crash my linux box anymore. > b) to get the aforementioned on the internet with as > little grief as possible. > > I know absolutely nothing about external modems except that > they're an external device with all the HARDWARE required to do > what a modem is supposed to do. I have a serial and two USB > ports available. > > I have located and downloaded the [hopefully] correct targz with the > drivers to make the PCtel HSP56 software modem work in linux, > but I don't think I have the compiler unless Mandrake 8.1 gave it as > part of the default rpms. I have the PCtel modem mini-Howto if > anyone cares to read it for correctness. It makes a big deal about > how you can break your machine and do this entirely at your own > risk, and I'm very hesitant to fool with my kernel. > > Any input for or against either option gratefully accepted. > > > Scott > > Registered Linux User 261118 > > > From colszewski at adelphia.net Mon May 6 10:42:07 2002 From: colszewski at adelphia.net (colszewski@adelphia.net) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Modems Message-ID: <102069655501@mail1.emumail.net> If you are looking for the simplest way out I would recommend going with a external Hayes or US Robotics modem. I use these modems at several of our remote offices and they work flawlessly. Chet On Sun, 5 May 2002 21:09:41 -0400 "S. Lawton " wrote: > Which would be easier, to install an external modem, or recompile > my kernel with the neccessary drivers to make the HSP modem > card work ? > > My goals are: a) to NOT crash my linux box anymore. > b) to get the aforementioned on the internet with as > little grief as possible. > > I know absolutely nothing about external modems except that > they're an external device with all the HARDWARE required to do > what a modem is supposed to do. I have a serial and two USB > ports available. > > I have located and downloaded the [hopefully] correct targz with the > drivers to make the PCtel HSP56 software modem work in linux, > but I don't think I have the compiler unless Mandrake 8.1 gave it as > part of the default rpms. I have the PCtel modem mini-Howto if > anyone cares to read it for correctness. It makes a big deal about > how you can break your machine and do this entirely at your own > risk, and I'm very hesitant to fool with my kernel. > > Any input for or against either option gratefully accepted. > > > Scott > > Registered Linux User 261118 From chaz03 at localnet.com Mon May 6 10:53:40 2002 From: chaz03 at localnet.com (Charles Rishel) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Modems In-Reply-To: <3CD59F95.382.1D1C7BD@localhost> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20020506104236.00a6d200@mail.localnet.com> As you have heard from many others, I also echo the sentiment that an external modem is the easiest and fastest way to get your linux box online. When I initially got into linux, I had an internal ISA modem in my computer. I fiddled with ISAPNPTOOLS, SETSERIAL and a whole host of other utilities to try and get it to work.. with limited or no success. Six months later I finally got it to work, when of all things, I was configuring my soundcard.. ISA also.. and in the resulting ISA config file I noticed that it picked up my modem also.. then it finally worked. When I decided to upgrade from 28.8 to 56K, I got a great deal on a 'Winlight' external 56K modem, so I bought it. Although I hate additional external devices cluttering the desktop, and the additional wires associated, I found that I could have any new install of Linux online within 10 minutes with the external modem. From that moment on, I have NEVER messed with another internal modem on my Linux boxes. Just my experience with internal modems and my .02 Chaz? At 09:09 PM 5/5/02 -0400, you wrote: >Which would be easier, to install an external modem, or recompile >my kernel with the neccessary drivers to make the HSP modem >card work ? > >My goals are: a) to NOT crash my linux box anymore. > b) to get the aforementioned on the internet with as >little grief as possible. > >I know absolutely nothing about external modems except that >they're an external device with all the HARDWARE required to do >what a modem is supposed to do. I have a serial and two USB >ports available. > >I have located and downloaded the [hopefully] correct targz with the >drivers to make the PCtel HSP56 software modem work in linux, >but I don't think I have the compiler unless Mandrake 8.1 gave it as >part of the default rpms. I have the PCtel modem mini-Howto if >anyone cares to read it for correctness. It makes a big deal about >how you can break your machine and do this entirely at your own >risk, and I'm very hesitant to fool with my kernel. > >Any input for or against either option gratefully accepted. > > >Scott > >Registered Linux User 261118 From kagalle at infoblvd.net Mon May 6 18:58:13 2002 From: kagalle at infoblvd.net (Ken Galle) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Modems In-Reply-To: <3CD59F95.382.1D1C7BD@localhost> References: <3CD59F95.382.1D1C7BD@localhost> Message-ID: <20020506185813.433eb2c3.kagalle@infoblvd.net> Though I agree external is the simplest way to get there, it is worth noting that there is one bright spot for internal modems - actiontec. All of there modems are complete/full/not-winmodem modems, even the pci. I have an isa, but also checked out pci and they have the Actiontec 56K PCI PCI Master For awhile they were available at walmart. Some setup info from their web site, which basically boils down to telling linux where and what type of UART is in the modem, nothing wierd like patching kernels, etc (though I've have good success doing that with the LT modems)... http://www.actiontec.com/support/modems/pcimasterfaq.html#installlinux # cat /proc/pci The following is an example of information to look for: Bus 0, device 12, function 0: Communication controller: Lucent (ex-AT&T) Microelectronics Unknown device (rev 0). Vendor id=11c1. Device id=480. Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 11. Master Capable. No bursts. Min Gnt=252.Max Lat=14. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe0800000 [0xe0800000]. I/O at 0xa000 [0xa001]. I/O at 0x9800 [0x9801]. I/O at 0x9400 [0x9401]. Write down the first I/O range. The example shows that I/O is 0xa000. The values may vary, depending on the system. Then type # setserial /dev/ttyS3 port 0xa000 spd_vhi skip_test auto_irq autoconfig and hit enter. If there are no errors, then type # setserial /dev/ttyS3 uart 16550A On Sun, 5 May 2002 21:09:41 -0400 "S. Lawton " wrote: > Which would be easier, to install an external modem, or recompile > my kernel with the neccessary drivers to make the HSP modem > card work ? > > My goals are: a) to NOT crash my linux box anymore. > b) to get the aforementioned on the internet with as > little grief as possible. > > I know absolutely nothing about external modems except that > they're an external device with all the HARDWARE required to do > what a modem is supposed to do. I have a serial and two USB > ports available. > > I have located and downloaded the [hopefully] correct targz with the > drivers to make the PCtel HSP56 software modem work in linux, > but I don't think I have the compiler unless Mandrake 8.1 gave it as > part of the default rpms. I have the PCtel modem mini-Howto if > anyone cares to read it for correctness. It makes a big deal about > how you can break your machine and do this entirely at your own > risk, and I'm very hesitant to fool with my kernel. > > Any input for or against either option gratefully accepted. > > > Scott > > Registered Linux User 261118 > From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Mon May 6 21:11:21 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Modems References: <3CD59F95.382.1D1C7BD@localhost> <20020506185813.433eb2c3.kagalle@infoblvd.net> Message-ID: <000701c1f564$3a633740$f43afea9@celeronbox> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Galle" To: Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:58 PM Subject: Re: Modems > Though I agree external is the simplest way to get there, it is worth noting that there is one bright spot for internal modems - actiontec. All of there modems are complete/full/not-winmodem modems, even the pci. I have an isa, but also checked out pci and they have the > Actiontec 56K PCI PCI Master <-------------------------------------snip---------------------------------- -----> Hi. I have one of those Actiontec modems in my AMD box with Mandrake 8.1 Its an ISA model it works ok, but it is not as stable as others I've used. It will not work under dev/modem so I had to choose the ttys1 in other words com2 in order to get it to work. Also it does not connect up at a nice speed all the time. Often I have to disconnect and reconnect in order to get connect at useable speed. It is a nice cheep modem and I mean cheep. You get what you pay for! I would recommend to invest in a better quality modem like 3com usr or zoom something like that. These are of a better quality and more stable. Also if you've read the reviews about Actiontec modems you'll find out that this modem is a bit unstable and problematic. Hardware (controller) modems are going to get harder to find (and one day out of production) if windoze has their way. So you and I and everone else will find that the only available modems in the near future will be winmodems. Boy does that suck. So much for having the ability to find equipment for our (somewhat) legacy boxes on the stores shelfs. So buy up the stuff while you can I say just in case. I know I'm always looking around for stuff that the masses are asses are junking at the curb for parts that I've been collecting and sorting for spairs and extras. Get enough of the stuff together and you can Frankenstein a nice legacy box out of it. Well this is my two cents worth. Thanks:) Ron Maggio Have Screwdriver Will Travel Computer Repair Service P.O. BOX 186 Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186 Phone: (716) 677-5909 havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net > > For awhile they were available at walmart. Some setup info from their web site, which basically boils down to telling linux where and what type of UART is in the modem, nothing wierd like patching kernels, etc (though I've have good success doing that with the LT modems)... > > http://www.actiontec.com/support/modems/pcimasterfaq.html#installlinux > # cat /proc/pci > The following is an example of information to look for: > > Bus 0, device 12, function 0: > Communication controller: Lucent (ex-AT&T) > Microelectronics Unknown device (rev 0). > Vendor id=11c1. Device id=480. > Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 11. > Master Capable. No bursts. Min Gnt=252.Max Lat=14. > Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe0800000 > [0xe0800000]. > I/O at 0xa000 [0xa001]. > I/O at 0x9800 [0x9801]. > I/O at 0x9400 [0x9401]. > > Write down the first I/O range. The example shows that I/O is 0xa000. The values may vary, depending on the system. Then type > > # setserial /dev/ttyS3 port 0xa000 spd_vhi skip_test auto_irq autoconfig > and hit enter. > > If there are no errors, then type > > # setserial /dev/ttyS3 uart 16550A > > > On Sun, 5 May 2002 21:09:41 -0400 > "S. Lawton " wrote: > > > Which would be easier, to install an external modem, or recompile > > my kernel with the neccessary drivers to make the HSP modem > > card work ? > > > > My goals are: a) to NOT crash my linux box anymore. > > b) to get the aforementioned on the internet with as > > little grief as possible. > > > > I know absolutely nothing about external modems except that > > they're an external device with all the HARDWARE required to do > > what a modem is supposed to do. I have a serial and two USB > > ports available. > > > > I have located and downloaded the [hopefully] correct targz with the > > drivers to make the PCtel HSP56 software modem work in linux, > > but I don't think I have the compiler unless Mandrake 8.1 gave it as > > part of the default rpms. I have the PCtel modem mini-Howto if > > anyone cares to read it for correctness. It makes a big deal about > > how you can break your machine and do this entirely at your own > > risk, and I'm very hesitant to fool with my kernel. > > > > Any input for or against either option gratefully accepted. > > > > > > Scott > > > > Registered Linux User 261118 > > > From green_man at bluefrognet.net Mon May 6 21:38:04 2002 From: green_man at bluefrognet.net (S. Lawton) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Modems Message-ID: <3CD6F7BC.11608.12DC31C@localhost> Thanks, guys ! No input from the kernel crunchers yet ? Here's the deal. I spent a lot of time at linmodems.org. Because I have on board sound via AC97 Codec, I have an AMR modem [Audio Modem Riser]. The modem card itself is about 2 in. by 2in. The ONLY thing it does is convert machine voltage to phone company voltage and vice versa. It's an HSP chipset [Host Signal Processor] which means that all DAC/ADC [digital analog conversion/ analog digital conversion] is done by the CPU and software. I'm dual boot with Win 95 and Mandrake 8.1, and for some reason Win 95 doesn't like this thing either. I guess that's why they tried to push XP on me. Finances being limited, I could have XP or a processor, so I opted for the Athlon and no OS. Would an external modem [Serial or USB, I don't even know how they make them now] still be recognized as a PCI device ? My on board sound is. Supposedly one chipset on the board takes care of all the ADC/DAC- sound, modem and lan. It's looking like external is the way to go, maybe to get both OS's online. As I said, I have the drivers written by someone in Chile, but the last time I compiled anything it was on an IBM mainframe the size of a refrigerator, with a hard drive the size of a washing machine. Hollerith cards had just recently become obsolete ! A bit of advice for anyone thinking of getting a new computer and putting Linux in it - get a mother board with EXPANSION CARD SLOTS ! Microsoft is pushing on board sound and video and Intel is going along with it because it's cheaper and easier for the manufacturers, but only if the drivers are part of the licensed operating system. Scott Registered Linux User 261118 From peter at thecybersource.com Mon May 6 21:30:48 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Modems In-Reply-To: <000701c1f564$3a633740$f43afea9@celeronbox> References: <3CD59F95.382.1D1C7BD@localhost> <20020506185813.433eb2c3.kagalle@infoblvd.net> <000701c1f564$3a633740$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <1020735049.3370.5.camel@Office> As the hardware evolves, so will/must the software. I think the newer Mandrake distros run the win/lin modems just fine, have not had any problems at all. The only reason I am even using them now is because the newer motherboards are being made without ISA slots and the PCI hardware modems are ridiculous in price. My .04 cents worth (previously added .02 to this subject :) )
On Mon, 2002-05-06 at 21:11, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Galle" <kagalle@infoblvd.net>
To: <nflug@nflug.org>
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: Modems


> Though I agree external is the simplest way to get there, it is worth
noting that there is one bright spot for internal modems - actiontec.  All
of there modems are complete/full/not-winmodem modems, even the pci.  I have
an isa, but also checked out pci and they have the
> Actiontec 56K PCI PCI Master

<-------------------------------------snip----------------------------------
----->
Hi. I have one of those Actiontec modems in my AMD box with Mandrake 8.1 Its
an ISA model it works ok, but it is not as stable as others I've used. It
will not work under dev/modem so I had to choose the ttys1 in other words
com2 in order to get it to work. Also it does not connect up at a nice speed
all the time. Often I have to disconnect and reconnect in order to get
connect at useable speed. It is a nice cheep modem and I mean cheep. You get
what you pay for! I would recommend to invest in a better quality modem like
3com usr or zoom something like that. These are of a better quality and more
stable.
Also if you've read the reviews about Actiontec modems you'll find out that
this modem is a bit unstable and problematic.
Hardware (controller) modems are going to get harder to find (and one day
out of production) if windoze has their way.
So you and I and everone else will find that the only available modems in
the near future will be winmodems. Boy does that suck. So much for having
the ability to find equipment for our (somewhat) legacy boxes on the stores
shelfs. So buy up the stuff while you can I say just in case. I know I'm
always looking around for stuff that the masses are asses are junking at the
curb for parts that I've been collecting and sorting for spairs and extras.
Get enough of the stuff together and you can Frankenstein a nice legacy box
out of it. Well this is my two cents worth. Thanks:)

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net


>
> For awhile they were available at walmart.  Some setup info from their web
site, which basically boils down to telling linux where and what type of
UART is in the modem, nothing wierd like patching kernels, etc (though I've
have good success doing that with the LT modems)...
>
> http://www.actiontec.com/support/modems/pcimasterfaq.html#installlinux
> # cat /proc/pci
> The following is an example of information to look for:
>
> Bus  0, device  12, function  0:
>     Communication controller: Lucent (ex-AT&T)
>      Microelectronics Unknown device (rev 0).
>       Vendor id=11c1. Device id=480.
>       Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  IRQ 11.
>         Master Capable.  No bursts.  Min Gnt=252.Max Lat=14.
>       Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe0800000
>        [0xe0800000].
>       I/O at 0xa000 [0xa001].
>       I/O at 0x9800 [0x9801].
>       I/O at 0x9400 [0x9401].
>
> Write down the first I/O range. The example shows that I/O is 0xa000. The
values may vary, depending on the system. Then type
>
> # setserial /dev/ttyS3 port 0xa000 spd_vhi skip_test auto_irq autoconfig
> and hit enter.
>
> If there are no errors, then type
>
> # setserial /dev/ttyS3 uart 16550A
>
>
> On Sun, 5 May 2002 21:09:41 -0400
> "S. Lawton " <green_man@bluefrognet.net> wrote:
>
> > Which would be easier, to install an external modem, or recompile
> > my kernel with the neccessary drivers to make the HSP modem
> > card work ?
> >
> > My goals are: a) to NOT crash my linux box anymore.
> >                      b) to get the aforementioned on the internet with
as
> > little grief as possible.
> >
> > I know absolutely nothing about external modems except that
> > they're an external device with all the HARDWARE required to do
> > what a modem is supposed to do. I have a serial and two USB
> > ports available.
> >
> > I have located and downloaded the [hopefully] correct targz with the
> > drivers to make the PCtel HSP56 software modem work in linux,
> > but I don't think I have the compiler unless Mandrake 8.1 gave it as
> > part of the default rpms. I have the PCtel modem mini-Howto if
> > anyone cares to read it for correctness. It makes a big deal about
> > how you can break your machine and do this entirely at your own
> > risk, and I'm very hesitant to fool with my kernel.
> >
> > Any input for or against either option gratefully accepted.
> >
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > Registered Linux User 261118
> >
>

From chaz03 at localnet.com Tue May 7 04:38:32 2002 From: chaz03 at localnet.com (Charles Rishel) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Modems In-Reply-To: <3CD6F7BC.11608.12DC31C@localhost> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20020507043015.00a6a5c0@mail.localnet.com> At 09:38 PM 5/6/02 -0400, you wrote: > Because I >have on board sound via AC97 Codec, I have an AMR modem >[Audio Modem Riser]. The modem card itself is about 2 in. by 2in. I 'TRY' to avoid anything essential as onboard.. sound/net is fine.. but avoid video/modem from onboard I also figure you have to have at LEAST 3 expansion slots.. and at LEAST one external com port.. so you should be set if you go aftermarket, internal or external.. >I'm dual boot with Win 95 and Mandrake 8.1, and for some reason >Win 95 doesn't like this thing either. go figure.. they cant sell new product if the old product works fine.. >I guess that's why they tried to push XP on me. see above.. :-) >Finances being limited, I could have XP or a >processor, so I opted for the Athlon and no OS. > >Would an external modem [Serial or USB, I don't even know how >they make them now] still be recognized as a PCI device ? I have never seen a USB modem.. don't mean they don't make one.. just that I have not experienced one.. but Serial/Com port modems do still exist.. thank the heavens!! >My on >board sound is. Supposedly one chipset on the board takes care of >all the ADC/DAC- sound, modem and lan. > >It's looking like external is the way to go, maybe to get both OS's >online. As I said, I have the drivers written by someone in Chile, but >the last time I compiled anything it was on an IBM mainframe the >size of a refrigerator, with a hard drive the size of a washing >machine. Hollerith cards had just recently become obsolete ! > >A bit of advice for anyone thinking of getting a new computer and >putting Linux in it - get a mother board with EXPANSION CARD >SLOTS ! >Microsoft is pushing on board sound and video and Intel is >going along with it because they're in bed with M$ and making money.. >it's cheaper and easier for the >manufacturers, but only if the drivers are part of the licensed >operating system. >Scott > >Registered Linux User 261118 From Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com Tue May 7 12:44:56 2002 From: Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com (Riga, Anthony) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C09@bu2102.searbrown.com> Is there a meeting this week? From jbielli at netsos.com Tue May 7 12:55:34 2002 From: jbielli at netsos.com (Joe Bielli) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: In-Reply-To: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C09@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <000e01c1f5e8$018f4970$07437fcf@CSOS.NETSOS.COM> Next week.. the 19th -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Riga, Anthony Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:45 PM To: Nflug (E-mail) Subject: Is there a meeting this week? From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Tue May 7 13:17:49 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: References: <000e01c1f5e8$018f4970$07437fcf@CSOS.NETSOS.COM> Message-ID: <3CD80C3D.F860B67A@dynabrade.com> I haven't been to a meeting yet, I'd like to attend one, where are they held? Joe Bielli wrote: > Next week.. the 19th > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of > Riga, Anthony > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:45 PM > To: Nflug (E-mail) > Subject: > > Is there a meeting this week? -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From jjneff at yahoo.com Wed May 8 08:05:56 2002 From: jjneff at yahoo.com (JJ Neff) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Modems In-Reply-To: <3CD6F7BC.11608.12DC31C@localhost> Message-ID: <20020508120556.36155.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> I fought this beast for a long time, but finally just got (aquired?) a 56K external USB and never looked back. It worked flawlessly with my LRP box and if it hangs in any OS you merely flick the power button. Win9X may detect the external modem but in both OS's you can merely tell it a modem exists at COM port X and it works fine, just sends data to COM POrt X and modem takes care of rest. Flashing lights on front of modem are a HUGE help too. (Note: You do know what COM ports are where don't you :-) If not open the case and trace the serial port connectors or look at the serial port connection (it's normally labelled) In a Post Win9X world we are so used to letting the OS tell US what the ports are we have stopped looking for ourselves! <-- Mini-Rant :-) Also if you have a built in modem try to determine the com port it's using from watching start up or inBIOS. If using an external on a serial port disable the internal. Hope an idea here helps, JJN --- "S. Lawton " wrote: > Thanks, guys ! > No input from the kernel crunchers yet ? > > I'm dual boot with Win 95 and Mandrake 8.1, and for some reason > Win 95 doesn't like this thing either. I guess that's why they tried to > push XP on me. Finances being limited, I could have XP or a > processor, so I opted for the Athlon and no OS. > > Would an external modem [Serial or USB, I don't even know how > they make them now] still be recognized as a PCI device ? My on > board sound is. Supposedly one chipset on the board takes care of > all the ADC/DAC- sound, modem and lan. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Wed May 8 10:58:54 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Modems In-Reply-To: <20020508120556.36155.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020508145854.10963.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> I don't think you mean USB, here, do you? --- JJ Neff wrote: > I fought this beast for a long time, but finally just got (aquired?) a 56K > external USB and never looked back. It worked flawlessly with my LRP box and > if it hangs in any OS you merely flick the power button. Win9X may detect > the > external modem but in both OS's you can merely tell it a modem exists at COM > port X and it works fine, just sends data to COM POrt X and modem takes care > of > rest. Flashing lights on front of modem are a HUGE help too. > > (Note: You do know what COM ports are where don't you :-) If not open the > case > and trace the serial port connectors or look at the serial port connection > (it's normally labelled) In a Post Win9X world we are so used to letting the > OS > tell US what the ports are we have stopped looking for ourselves! <-- > Mini-Rant :-) > > Also if you have a built in modem try to determine the com port it's using > from > watching start up or inBIOS. If using an external on a serial port disable > the > internal. > > Hope an idea here helps, > > JJN > --- "S. Lawton " wrote: > > Thanks, guys ! > > No input from the kernel crunchers yet ? > > > > I'm dual boot with Win 95 and Mandrake 8.1, and for some reason > > Win 95 doesn't like this thing either. I guess that's why they tried to > > push XP on me. Finances being limited, I could have XP or a > > processor, so I opted for the Athlon and no OS. > > > > Would an external modem [Serial or USB, I don't even know how > > they make them now] still be recognized as a PCI device ? My on > > board sound is. Supposedly one chipset on the board takes care of > > all the ADC/DAC- sound, modem and lan. > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness > http://health.yahoo.com ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From robromito at adelphia.net Wed May 8 15:00:00 2002 From: robromito at adelphia.net (Robert Romito) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Why I Love Linux Message-ID: <3CD975B0.3010804@adelphia.net> A couple of nights ago I was playing with my Linux From Scratch (LFS) build. I'm building a boot disk for installing LFS on other systems. With the boot disk's root file system incubating deep within my /home directory, my work commenced. While residing in /home/<blahblahblah>/installdisk I discovered BusyBox (http://www.busybox.net); a nifty utility which allowed me to purge the boot disk's lib directory. Excited about finally fitting the kernel and root fs on one disk, I began to type. As root, from the /home/<blahblahblah>/installdisk, I typed rm -rf /lib/*. Oops... I meant to type rm -rf lib/*. Unfortunately, I didn't hit control-c fast enough. The /lib casualties were immense. Everything stopped working. Couldn't ls, cd, su, or cp. Couldn't even shutdown with ctrl+alt+del; I had to power off.

Following a colorful commentary on the preceeding action and resultant situation, I found peace. This is Linux, not Windows! I don't need to re-install and sacrifice all my tweaks and mods. Armed with my trusty Slackware 8.0 install CD, I started system CPR. From the install CD, I mounted the root partition, copied the glibc package to the root partition, installed the package, unmounted the root partition, removed the CD and rebooted. My system's pulse strengthened. I repeated the process twice, re-installing the glibc++ and e2fs packages. Upon the final reboot, login welcomed me with open arms and a login prompt. X loaded succesfully, NVidia logo and all. My applications ran with the same vigor as before my surprise attack. Then a lone, white dove soared across my screen...

... Ok, maybe a dove didn't fly across my screen. But my system came up beautifully, as though I had never wiped out the core libraries that 99% of the system relies on. Just imagine if I did this to c:\winnt\system32. The moral is that it's OK to suffer from Windows-panic-itis when you make a mistake as root. Just make sure you take a deep breath and remember you're in Linux land now. For that which cripples Windows only stings Linux. Just ensure a boot disk and the original install media is always close at hand.

Robert Romito.
From sonofrage at yahoo.com Wed May 8 18:57:52 2002 From: sonofrage at yahoo.com (Samuel Morales Jr.) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Why I Love Linux In-Reply-To: <3CD975B0.3010804@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <20020508225752.29381.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> good example! --- Robert Romito wrote: > A couple of nights ago I was playing with my Linux > From Scratch (LFS) > build. I'm building a boot disk for installing LFS > on other systems. > With the boot disk's root file system incubating > deep within my /home > directory, my work commenced. While residing in > /home//installdisk I discovered > BusyBox > (http://www.busybox.net); a > nifty utility which > allowed me to purge the boot disk's lib directory. > Excited about > finally fitting the kernel and root fs on one disk, > I began to type. As > root, from the /home//installdisk, I > typed rm -rf /lib/*. > Oops... I meant to type rm -rf lib/*. > Unfortunately, I didn't hit > control-c fast enough. The /lib casualties were > immense. Everything > stopped working. Couldn't ls, cd, su, or cp. > Couldn't even shutdown > with ctrl+alt+del; I had to power off. > > Following a colorful commentary on the preceeding > action and resultant > situation, I found peace. This is Linux, not > Windows! I don't need to > re-install and sacrifice all my tweaks and mods. > Armed with my trusty > Slackware 8.0 install CD, I started system CPR. > From the install CD, I > mounted the root partition, copied the glibc package > to the root > partition, installed the package, unmounted the root > partition, removed > the CD and rebooted. My system's pulse > strengthened. I repeated the > process twice, re-installing the glibc++ and e2fs > packages. Upon the > final reboot, login welcomed me with open arms and a > login prompt. X > loaded succesfully, NVidia logo and all. My > applications ran with the > same vigor as before my surprise attack. Then a > lone, white dove soared > across my screen... > > ... Ok, maybe a dove didn't fly across my screen. > But my system came up > beautifully, as though I had never wiped out the > core libraries that 99% > of the system relies on. Just imagine if I did this > to > c:\winnt\system32. The moral is that it's OK to > suffer from > Windows-panic-itis when you make a mistake as root. > Just make sure you > take a deep breath and remember you're in Linux land > now. For that > which cripples Windows only stings Linux. Just > ensure a boot disk and > the original install media is always close at hand. > > Robert Romito. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com From jjneff at yahoo.com Wed May 8 19:46:18 2002 From: jjneff at yahoo.com (JJ Neff) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Modems In-Reply-To: <20020508145854.10963.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020508234618.33882.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> No , just reading too many things at one time... :-) Was downloading Debian iso at same time, Gonna use Debian at work again. Want to give Debian a crac at workign through the M$ Proxy , apt-get works very well with http_proxy but I can no longer get wget to work with wgetrc. I think upgrading to Win2K proxy server hurt me. However, FTP in a web browser works in KDE3 from behind a M$ Proxy! This was a huge surprise.... JJN --- Robert Meyer wrote: > I don't think you mean USB, here, do you? > > --- JJ Neff wrote: > > I fought this beast for a long time, but finally just got (aquired?) a 56K > > external USB and never looked back. It worked flawlessly with my LRP box > and __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com From jjneff at yahoo.com Wed May 8 19:48:49 2002 From: jjneff at yahoo.com (JJ Neff) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Why I Love Linux In-Reply-To: <3CD975B0.3010804@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <20020508234849.83295.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> I must admit I got a little teary reading this! :-) Thanks for the tale of woe and recovery! JJN --- Robert Romito wrote: > A couple of nights ago I was playing with my Linux From Scratch (LFS) > build. I'm building a boot disk for installing LFS on other systems. > With the boot disk's root file system incubating deep within my /home > directory, my work commenced. While residing in > /home//installdisk I discovered BusyBox > (http://www.busybox.net); a nifty utility which > allowed me to purge the boot disk's lib directory. Excited about > finally fitting the kernel and root fs on one disk, I began to type. As > root, from the /home//installdisk, I typed rm -rf /lib/*. > Oops... I meant to type rm -rf lib/*. Unfortunately, I didn't hit > control-c fast enough. The /lib casualties were immense. Everything > stopped working. Couldn't ls, cd, su, or cp. Couldn't even shutdown > with ctrl+alt+del; I had to power off. > > Following a colorful commentary on the preceeding action and resultant > situation, I found peace. This is Linux, not Windows! I don't need to > re-install and sacrifice all my tweaks and mods. Armed with my trusty > Slackware 8.0 install CD, I started system CPR. From the install CD, I > mounted the root partition, copied the glibc package to the root > partition, installed the package, unmounted the root partition, removed > the CD and rebooted. My system's pulse strengthened. I repeated the > process twice, re-installing the glibc++ and e2fs packages. Upon the > final reboot, login welcomed me with open arms and a login prompt. X > loaded succesfully, NVidia logo and all. My applications ran with the > same vigor as before my surprise attack. Then a lone, white dove soared > across my screen... > > ... Ok, maybe a dove didn't fly across my screen. But my system came up > beautifully, as though I had never wiped out the core libraries that 99% > of the system relies on. Just imagine if I did this to > c:\winnt\system32. The moral is that it's OK to suffer from > Windows-panic-itis when you make a mistake as root. Just make sure you > take a deep breath and remember you're in Linux land now. For that > which cripples Windows only stings Linux. Just ensure a boot disk and > the original install media is always close at hand. > > Robert Romito. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com From Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com Thu May 9 11:01:54 2002 From: Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com (Riga, Anthony) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Redhat 7.3 Message-ID: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C12@bu2102.searbrown.com> Does anyone know where I can download Redhat 7.3 ? Has anyone used it yet? From jbielli at netsos.com Thu May 9 11:07:10 2002 From: jbielli at netsos.com (Joe Bielli) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Redhat 7.3 In-Reply-To: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C12@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <000e01c1f76b$3145bda0$07437fcf@CSOS.NETSOS.COM> Just started an install last night.. you should be able to get it at ftp.cse.buffalo.edu Joe -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Riga, Anthony Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 11:02 AM To: Nflug (E-mail) Subject: Redhat 7.3 Does anyone know where I can download Redhat 7.3 ? Has anyone used it yet? From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Thu May 9 11:17:43 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Redhat 7.3 In-Reply-To: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C12@bu2102.searbrown.com> References: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C12@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <1020957463.3083.12.camel@polo> Running it right Now... I have it on CD or you can attempt to download it. Fastest site to us, is UB. ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 11:01, Riga, Anthony wrote: > Does anyone know where I can download Redhat 7.3 ? Has anyone used it yet? From WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil Thu May 9 11:09:20 2002 From: WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil (Wechter, Ron) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Redhat 7.3 Message-ID: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8C7@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> I have a copy of all three cd's - Look on the RedHat mirror sites - Cornell under "edu" - I got them the DAY it was released in about 1hr and 10min. Also - I can send some out if people dont have cabgle lines - just gimme some addresses. Ron -----Original Message----- From: Riga, Anthony [mailto:Anthony.Riga@searbrown.com] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 11:02 AM To: Nflug (E-mail) Subject: Redhat 7.3 Does anyone know where I can download Redhat 7.3 ? Has anyone used it yet? From peter at thecybersource.com Thu May 9 11:52:04 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Topic for next meeting Message-ID: <1020959524.2226.7.camel@Office> Hello All,
Don't know if we have a topic for the next meeting but as I was talking with Bob Meyer last night on the phone, he suggested that I do a demonstration of a Mandrake 8.2 install and further to show how to install a software modem (as this has been a hot subject on here) Any thoughts?
p.s. It would be great if we could get that digital projector back again as well if we are to do this one.

From chaz03 at localnet.com Thu May 9 12:21:32 2002 From: chaz03 at localnet.com (Charles Rishel) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Why I Love Linux In-Reply-To: <3CD975B0.3010804@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20020509121146.00a60a30@mail.localnet.com> What a beautiful recovery doc, most would have pulled the sheets over the patient's head. Well done and Bravo!! :-)

This is one of the wonderful things about Linux, also one of the 'bad' things. Linux is strong enough to let you recover from 'user' mistakes, but will also gladly let you do what you want, even though sometimes it's not REALLY what you want to do.. but it IS what you told the system to do. LOL

I did a similar thing when first getting into Linux. Was running on a 166Mhz system with1.6GB hard drive.. Win95 had 1G of drivespace, and compressed.. Linux had 600MB of space. Went to mount Windows, couldn't read anything but screwed up ascii symbols, so I figured I pooched something.. removed the mount point to start over.. but failed to 'umount' first.. Away went Win95 in the blink of an eye.. to be reinstalled later that day. Just goes to prove.. Linux CAN remove M$ from a system in one command.. but M$ still can't see/read/'mess with' Linux :-) MBR aside of course.

Good news.. looks like I will FINALLY be able to make a meeting. Work schedule has changed a 'bit' and I now have weekends off.. weekdays too for that matter.. I left my position at my former employer due to a conflict of interests. So, anyone have any decent job leads in the southern tier?? :-)

See ya at the meeting,
Chaz�

At 03:00 PM 5/8/02 -0400, you wrote:

A couple of nights ago I was playing with my Linux From Scratch (LFS) build. I'm building a boot disk for installing LFS on other systems. With the boot disk's root file system incubating deep within my /home directory, my work commenced. While residing in /home/<blahblahblah>/installdisk I discovered BusyBox (http://www.busybox.net); a nifty utility which allowed me to purge the boot disk's lib directory. Excited about finally fitting the kernel and root fs on one disk, I began to type. As root, from the /home/<blahblahblah>/installdisk, I typed rm -rf /lib/*. Oops... I meant to type rm -rf lib/*. Unfortunately, I didn't hit control-c fast enough. The /lib casualties were immense. Everything stopped working. Couldn't ls, cd, su, or cp. Couldn't even shutdown with ctrl+alt+del; I had to power off.

Following a colorful commentary on the preceeding action and resultant situation, I found peace. This is Linux, not Windows! I don't need to re-install and sacrifice all my tweaks and mods. Armed with my trusty Slackware 8.0 install CD, I started system CPR. From the install CD, I mounted the root partition, copied the glibc package to the root partition, installed the package, unmounted the root partition, removed the CD and rebooted. My system's pulse strengthened. I repeated the process twice, re-installing the glibc++ and e2fs packages. Upon the final reboot, login welcomed me with open arms and a login prompt. X loaded succesfully, NVidia logo and all. My applications ran with the same vigor as before my surprise attack. Then a lone, white dove soared across my screen...

... Ok, maybe a dove didn't fly across my screen. But my system came up beautifully, as though I had never wiped out the core libraries that 99% of the system relies on. Just imagine if I did this to c:\winnt\system32. The moral is that it's OK to suffer from Windows-panic-itis when you make a mistake as root. Just make sure you take a deep breath and remember you're in Linux land now. For that which cripples Windows only stings Linux. Just ensure a boot disk and the original install media is always close at hand.

Robert Romito.

From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Thu May 9 13:31:37 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Topic for next meeting In-Reply-To: <1020959524.2226.7.camel@Office> References: <1020959524.2226.7.camel@Office> Message-ID: <1020965497.5824.11.camel@polo> I know the next meeting is the 19th, what time? The new redhat 7.3 release is also out, I can burn some disks and bring them on that Sunday if anyone is interested, there were some people who asked about getting them. Its a few weeks away and there may be no point everyone may have it by then, just an idea. On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 11:52, Cyber Source wrote: > Hello All, > Don't know if we have a topic for the next meeting but as I was > talking with Bob Meyer last night on the phone, he suggested that I do a > demonstration of a Mandrake 8.2 install and further to show how to > install a software modem (as this has been a hot subject on here) Any > thoughts? > p.s. It would be great if we could get that digital projector back again > as well if we are to do this one. > > -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu May 9 14:06:31 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Topic for next meeting In-Reply-To: <1020959524.2226.7.camel@Office> Message-ID: <20020509180631.76561.qmail@web13308.mail.yahoo.com> I was thinking about it from the point of view of setting up a system for a non-linux experienced user. Peter has worked out a process that gets a casual Windows user to be able to function in Linux for many of the typical tasks that would cause concern with viruses such as reading Email and browsing the Web. He also gets Windmodems working first time, every time. I think that our users would benefit from his experience in subversive, guerilla advocacy by providing the tools that users need in a format that is easy for them to deal with. Remember, that we also have to convince Mom and Pop to stop feeding at the trough of M$ and the only way to do that is to make it easier for them to read Email, browse the Web, write letters and handle multimedia such as scanners and sound. Cheers! Bob --- Cyber Source wrote: > Hello All, > Don't know if we have a topic for the next meeting but as I was > talking with Bob Meyer last night on the phone, he suggested that I do a > demonstration of a Mandrake 8.2 install and further to show how to > install a software modem (as this has been a hot subject on here) Any > thoughts? > p.s. It would be great if we could get that digital projector back again > as well if we are to do this one. > > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com From robromito at adelphia.net Thu May 9 15:33:39 2002 From: robromito at adelphia.net (Robert Romito) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine Message-ID: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, 1:00pm at Computer SOS)! BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... Robert Romito. From robromito at adelphia.net Thu May 9 15:36:07 2002 From: robromito at adelphia.net (Robert Romito) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: LCARS Mozilla Message-ID: <3CDACFA7.6090406@adelphia.net> Anyone who has downloaded Mozilla RC1 should check out the LCARStrek theme (View => Apply Theme => Get New Theme). It's pretty cool, even if you're not a star trek fan. ;-) From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Thu May 9 15:49:15 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> References: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1020973755.6417.54.camel@polo> What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux article, or just saying who we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on the mailing list for a whopping 4 days now) :) On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito wrote: > If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo > Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, > 1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > > BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about > submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... > > Robert Romito. -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From shipdadip at adelphia.net Thu May 9 15:56:39 2002 From: shipdadip at adelphia.net (shipdadip) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:50 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> Message-ID: I'm in South Buffalo near Lackawanna anyone know where I can get one? -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Robert Romito Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 3:34 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, 1:00pm at Computer SOS)! BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... Robert Romito. From robromito at adelphia.net Thu May 9 17:03:33 2002 From: robromito at adelphia.net (Robert Romito) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: Message-ID: <3CDAE425.5030208@adelphia.net> Their website (http://www.buffalointernet.com) pretty much has the entire edition on line. It also has a list of all the distributors. Wilson Farms carries them if one is close. shipdadip wrote: >I'm in South Buffalo near Lackawanna anyone know where I can get one? > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of >Robert Romito >Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 3:34 PM >To: nflug@nflug.org >Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > > >If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo >Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It >even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, >1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > >BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about >submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... > >Robert Romito. > > > > From robromito at adelphia.net Thu May 9 17:12:14 2002 From: robromito at adelphia.net (Robert Romito) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> <1020973755.6417.54.camel@polo> Message-ID: <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro or an intro to Mandrake (or Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone has. It might be fun, and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG take on a small project. Justin Bennett wrote: >What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux article, or just saying who >we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on the mailing list for a >whopping 4 days now) :) > > >On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito wrote: > > >>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo >>Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It >>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, >>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! >> >>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about >>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... >> >>Robert Romito. >> >> From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Fri May 10 07:14:58 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> References: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> <1020973755.6417.54.camel@polo> <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <200205101114.g4ABEw821955@jb.freyhouse.com> Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe explaining what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a NFLUG plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. As long as I get some support on the Proof reading side. You can probably tell from some of my emails, english isn't my strong suite... :) Justin On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: > Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro or an intro to Mandrake (or > Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone has. It might be fun, > and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG take on a small project. > > Justin Bennett wrote: > >What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux article, or just saying who > >we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on the mailing list for a > >whopping 4 days now) :) > > > >On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito wrote: > >>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo > >>Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > >>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, > >>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > >> > >>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about > >>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... > >> > >>Robert Romito. From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 10 09:25:06 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> <1020973755.6417.54.camel@polo> <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> <200205101114.g4ABEw821955@jb.freyhouse.com> Message-ID: <000801c1f826$1a57ec60$f43afea9@celeronbox> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Bennett" To: Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:14 AM Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe explaining > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a NFLUG > plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. As long as I get some support > on the Proof reading side. You can probably tell from some of my emails, > english isn't my strong suite... :) <------------------------------snip-------------------------------------> Well thats how one polishes ones writing skills. I say fo for it and we'll help you along the way. May I suggest this web site for pointers on writing: http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html Strunk, William, Jr. 1918. The Elements of Style. This should help you, I know it helped me. So good luck! Ron > > Justin > > On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: > > Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro or an intro to Mandrake (or > > Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone has. It might be fun, > > and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG take on a small project. > > > > Justin Bennett wrote: > > >What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux article, or just saying who > > >we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on the mailing list for a > > >whopping 4 days now) :) > > > > > >On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito wrote: > > >>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo > > >>Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > > >>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, > > >>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > > >> > > >>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about > > >>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... > > >> > > >>Robert Romito. > From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 10 09:31:19 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> <1020973755.6417.54.camel@polo> <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> <200205101114.g4ABEw821955@jb.freyhouse.com> <000801c1f826$1a57ec60$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <003001c1f826$f824ede0$f43afea9@celeronbox> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronald Maggio" To: Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 9:25 AM Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Bennett" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:14 AM > Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > > > > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe explaining > > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a > NFLUG > > plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. As long as I get some > support > > on the Proof reading side. You can probably tell from some of my emails, > > english isn't my strong suite... :) > <------------------------------snip-------------------------------------> > Well thats how one polishes ones writing skills. I say for it and we'll > help you along the way. > May I suggest this web site for pointers on writing: > http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html > Strunk, William, Jr. 1918. The Elements of Style. This should help you, I > know it helped me. > So good luck! > > Ron > > > > > Justin > > > > On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: > > > Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro or an intro to Mandrake (or > > > Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone has. It might be fun, > > > and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG take on a small project. > > > > > > Justin Bennett wrote: > > > >What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux article, or just saying who > > > >we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on the mailing list for a > > > >whopping 4 days now) :) > > > > > > > >On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito wrote: > > > >>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo > > > >>Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > > > >>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, > > > >>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > > > >> > > > >>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about > > > >>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... > > > >> > > > >>Robert Romito. > > > > From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Fri May 10 09:43:51 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <000801c1f826$1a57ec60$f43afea9@celeronbox> References: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> <1020973755.6417.54.camel@polo> <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> <200205101114.g4ABEw821955@jb.freyhouse.com> <000801c1f826$1a57ec60$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <1021038231.9756.1.camel@polo> Ok sounds like a plan, is this a weekly publication, I'll start this weekend, and I'll post what I come up with here, to be scrutinized by all of you... :) On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 09:25, Ronald Maggio wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Bennett" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:14 AM > Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > > > > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe explaining > > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a > NFLUG > > plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. As long as I get some > support > > on the Proof reading side. You can probably tell from some of my emails, > > english isn't my strong suite... :) > <------------------------------snip-------------------------------------> > Well thats how one polishes ones writing skills. I say fo for it and we'll > help you along the way. > May I suggest this web site for pointers on writing: > http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html > Strunk, William, Jr. 1918. The Elements of Style. This should help you, I > know it helped me. > So good luck! > > Ron > > > > > Justin > > > > On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: > > > Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro or an intro to Mandrake (or > > > Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone has. It might be fun, > > > and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG take on a small project. > > > > > > Justin Bennett wrote: > > > >What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux article, or just saying who > > > >we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on the mailing list for a > > > >whopping 4 days now) :) > > > > > > > >On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito wrote: > > > >>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo > > > >>Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > > > >>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, > > > >>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > > > >> > > > >>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about > > > >>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... > > > >> > > > >>Robert Romito. > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 10 09:45:10 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> <1020973755.6417.54.camel@polo> <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> <200205101114.g4ABEw821955@jb.freyhouse.com> <000801c1f826$1a57ec60$f43afea9@celeronbox> <003001c1f826$f824ede0$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <00b301c1f828$e7d598c0$f43afea9@celeronbox> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ronald Maggio" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 9:25 AM > Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Justin Bennett" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:14 AM > > Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > > > > > > > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe > explaining > > > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a > > NFLUG > > > plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. As long as I get some > > support > > > on the Proof reading side. You can probably tell from some of my emails, > > > english isn't my strong suite... :) > > <------------------------------snip-------------------------------------> > > Well thats how one polishes ones writing skills. I say go for it and we'll > > help you along the way. > > May I suggest this web site for pointers on writing: > > http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html > > Strunk, William, Jr. 1918. The Elements of Style. This should help you, I > > know it helped me. > > So good luck! > > > > Ron > > (sorry for all the repeated messages due to typos, hurt my hand and its affecting my typing) Ron:) > > > > > > Justin > > > > > > On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: > > > > Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro or an intro to Mandrake > (or > > > > Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone has. It might be fun, > > > > and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG take on a small project. > > > > > > > > Justin Bennett wrote: > > > > >What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux article, or just saying > who > > > > >we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on the mailing list for a > > > > >whopping 4 days now) :) > > > > > > > > > >On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito wrote: > > > > >>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo > > > > >>Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > > > > >>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May > 19th, > > > > >>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > > > > >> > > > > >>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about > > > > >>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... > > > > >> > > > > >>Robert Romito. > > > > > > > > > From robromito at adelphia.net Fri May 10 10:11:19 2002 From: robromito at adelphia.net (Robert Romito) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> <1020973755.6417.54.camel@polo> <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> <200205101114.g4ABEw821955@jb.freyhouse.com> <000801c1f826$1a57ec60$f43afea9@celeronbox> <1021038231.9756.1.camel@polo> Message-ID: <3CDBD507.30204@adelphia.net> It's a monthly publication. And I haven't contacted them yet. I don't know if they're even open to the idea. Just wanted to see what people on the list thought of the idea. So I wouldn't spend an entire weekend writing an article just yet. I was thinking we could talk about this at our May meeting and bounce around a few ideas before submitting anything. Once we agree on an idea, I'll contact the editor and see what she thinks. Since we've got a multi-distribution mix, perhaps we could have different people write different reviews / intros to their favorite distribution. Then it would truely be a group excercise (I'm presuming that other members want to contribute). Doesn't have to be elaborate or fancy. Perhaps a paragraph on Mandrake, Slackware, and RedHat. Throw in an intro and summary and you've got an article that didn't take too much of one person's time. I know that many of us are very busy with other things, including myself. Don't want to take on a project that would be too much work! ;-) Any other ideas? Robert Romito. Justin Bennett wrote: >Ok sounds like a plan, is this a weekly publication, I'll start this >weekend, and I'll post what I come up with here, to be scrutinized by >all of you... :) > > >On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 09:25, Ronald Maggio wrote: > > >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Justin Bennett" >>To: >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:14 AM >>Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine >> >> >> >> >>>Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe explaining >>>what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a >>> >>> >>NFLUG >> >> >>>plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. As long as I get some >>> >>> >>support >> >> >>>on the Proof reading side. You can probably tell from some of my emails, >>>english isn't my strong suite... :) >>> >>> >><------------------------------snip-------------------------------------> >>Well thats how one polishes ones writing skills. I say fo for it and we'll >>help you along the way. >>May I suggest this web site for pointers on writing: >>http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html >>Strunk, William, Jr. 1918. The Elements of Style. This should help you, I >>know it helped me. >>So good luck! >> >>Ron >> >> >> >>>Justin >>> >>>On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro or an intro to Mandrake (or >>>>Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone has. It might be fun, >>>>and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG take on a small project. >>>> >>>>Justin Bennett wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux article, or just saying who >>>>>we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on the mailing list for a >>>>>whopping 4 days now) :) >>>>> >>>>>On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo >>>>>>Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It >>>>>>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, >>>>>>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! >>>>>> >>>>>>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about >>>>>>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... >>>>>> >>>>>>Robert Romito. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>-- >>This message has been scanned for viruses and >>dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>believed to be clean. >> >> From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Fri May 10 10:17:55 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <3CDBD507.30204@adelphia.net> References: <3CDACF13.1000308@adelphia.net> <1020973755.6417.54.camel@polo> <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> <20020510111 4.g4ABEw821955@jb.freyhouse.com> <000801c1f826$1a57ec60$f43afea9@celeronbox> <1021038231.9756.1.camel@polo> <3CDBD507.30204@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1021040275.1627.1.camel@polo> Ok sounds, good ... On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 10:11, Robert Romito wrote: > It's a monthly publication. And I haven't contacted them yet. I don't > know if they're even open to the idea. Just wanted to see what people > on the list thought of the idea. So I wouldn't spend an entire weekend > writing an article just yet. I was thinking we could talk about this > at our May meeting and bounce around a few ideas before submitting > anything. Once we agree on an idea, I'll contact the editor and see > what she thinks. > > Since we've got a multi-distribution mix, perhaps we could have > different people write different reviews / intros to their favorite > distribution. Then it would truely be a group excercise (I'm presuming > that other members want to contribute). Doesn't have to be elaborate or > fancy. Perhaps a paragraph on Mandrake, Slackware, and RedHat. Throw > in an intro and summary and you've got an article that didn't take too > much of one person's time. I know that many of us are very busy with > other things, including myself. Don't want to take on a project that > would be too much work! ;-) > > Any other ideas? > > Robert Romito. > > Justin Bennett wrote: > > >Ok sounds like a plan, is this a weekly publication, I'll start this > >weekend, and I'll post what I come up with here, to be scrutinized by > >all of you... :) > > > > > >On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 09:25, Ronald Maggio wrote: > > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Justin Bennett" > >>To: > >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:14 AM > >>Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe explaining > >>>what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a > >>> > >>> > >>NFLUG > >> > >> > >>>plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. As long as I get some > >>> > >>> > >>support > >> > >> > >>>on the Proof reading side. You can probably tell from some of my emails, > >>>english isn't my strong suite... :) > >>> > >>> > >><------------------------------snip-------------------------------------> > >>Well thats how one polishes ones writing skills. I say fo for it and we'll > >>help you along the way. > >>May I suggest this web site for pointers on writing: > >>http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html > >>Strunk, William, Jr. 1918. The Elements of Style. This should help you, I > >>know it helped me. > >>So good luck! > >> > >>Ron > >> > >> > >> > >>>Justin > >>> > >>>On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro or an intro to Mandrake (or > >>>>Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone has. It might be fun, > >>>>and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG take on a small project. > >>>> > >>>>Justin Bennett wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux article, or just saying who > >>>>>we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on the mailing list for a > >>>>>whopping 4 days now) :) > >>>>> > >>>>>On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the May edition of Buffalo > >>>>>>Internet and Computer Magazine (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > >>>>>>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting time and place - May 19th, > >>>>>>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > >>>>>> > >>>>>>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does the group think about > >>>>>>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? Might be a fun project... > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Robert Romito. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>-- > >>This message has been scanned for viruses and > >>dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > >>believed to be clean. > >> > >> > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From clay_berlo at yahoo.com Fri May 10 10:48:15 2002 From: clay_berlo at yahoo.com (Clay Berlo) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <1021040275.1627.1.camel@polo> Message-ID: <20020510144815.38301.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Anyone interested in a Debian review? --- Justin Bennett wrote: > Ok sounds, good ... > > On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 10:11, Robert Romito wrote: > > It's a monthly publication. And I haven't > contacted them yet. I don't > > know if they're even open to the idea. Just > wanted to see what people > > on the list thought of the idea. So I wouldn't > spend an entire weekend > > writing an article just yet. I was thinking we > could talk about this > > at our May meeting and bounce around a few ideas > before submitting > > anything. Once we agree on an idea, I'll contact > the editor and see > > what she thinks. > > > > Since we've got a multi-distribution mix, perhaps > we could have > > different people write different reviews / intros > to their favorite > > distribution. Then it would truely be a group > excercise (I'm presuming > > that other members want to contribute). Doesn't > have to be elaborate or > > fancy. Perhaps a paragraph on Mandrake, > Slackware, and RedHat. Throw > > in an intro and summary and you've got an article > that didn't take too > > much of one person's time. I know that many of us > are very busy with > > other things, including myself. Don't want to > take on a project that > > would be too much work! ;-) > > > > Any other ideas? > > > > Robert Romito. > > > > Justin Bennett wrote: > > > > >Ok sounds like a plan, is this a weekly > publication, I'll start this > > >weekend, and I'll post what I come up with here, > to be scrutinized by > > >all of you... :) > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 09:25, Ronald Maggio wrote: > > > > > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: "Justin Bennett" > > > >>To: > > >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:14 AM > > >>Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer > Magazine > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is > Linux" Article, maybe explaining > > >>>what linux is, as well as opensource and it's > advantages. Then throw a > > >>> > > >>> > > >>NFLUG > > >> > > >> > > >>>plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. > As long as I get some > > >>> > > >>> > > >>support > > >> > > >> > > >>>on the Proof reading side. You can probably > tell from some of my emails, > > >>>english isn't my strong suite... :) > > >>> > > >>> > > > >><------------------------------snip-------------------------------------> > > >>Well thats how one polishes ones writing skills. > I say fo for it and we'll > > >>help you along the way. > > >>May I suggest this web site for pointers on > writing: > > >>http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html > > >>Strunk, William, Jr. 1918. The Elements of > Style. This should help you, I > > >>know it helped me. > > >>So good luck! > > >> > > >>Ron > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>Justin > > >>> > > >>>On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro > or an intro to Mandrake (or > > >>>>Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone > has. It might be fun, > > >>>>and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG > take on a small project. > > >>>> > > >>>>Justin Bennett wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux > article, or just saying who > > >>>>>we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on > the mailing list for a > > >>>>>whopping 4 days now) :) > > >>>>> > > >>>>>On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito > wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the > May edition of Buffalo > > >>>>>>Internet and Computer Magazine > (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > > >>>>>>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting > time and place - May 19th, > > >>>>>>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does > the group think about > > >>>>>>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? > Might be a fun project... > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>Robert Romito. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>-- > > >>This message has been scanned for viruses and > > >>dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > >>believed to be clean. > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > -- > ------------------------------------------- > Justin Bennett > Red Hat Certified Engineer > Network Administrator > Dynabrade Inc. > 8989 Sheridan Dr > Clarence, NY 14031 > 716-631-0100 ext 215 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Fri May 10 15:02:27 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <20020510144815.38301.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020510144815.38301.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1021057347.3117.11.camel@polo> Sure, maybe we should give some background, what linux/opensource is and then compare some distributions, or give a review of several diffrent dists, to give a kind of ideas of their strengths. I haven't installed anything but redhat, (mandrake and caldera once) but from what I gather, correct me if I'm wrong, slackware and maybe debian? are more for the experienced users, more complicated installs?? If the idea of this article is to intise people into giving linux a shot maybe we should give some ideas as to which distribution is better for whowm. Begginers may want to install Mandrake, maybe even redhat? Wouldn't want them to get frustrated doing a text install (like freebsd) that frustrates them. This would involve many of us commenting on our favorite distribution. Justin On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 10:48, Clay Berlo wrote: > Anyone interested in a Debian review? > > --- Justin Bennett > wrote: > > Ok sounds, good ... > > > > On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 10:11, Robert Romito wrote: > > > It's a monthly publication. And I haven't > > contacted them yet. I don't > > > know if they're even open to the idea. Just > > wanted to see what people > > > on the list thought of the idea. So I wouldn't > > spend an entire weekend > > > writing an article just yet. I was thinking we > > could talk about this > > > at our May meeting and bounce around a few ideas > > before submitting > > > anything. Once we agree on an idea, I'll contact > > the editor and see > > > what she thinks. > > > > > > Since we've got a multi-distribution mix, perhaps > > we could have > > > different people write different reviews / intros > > to their favorite > > > distribution. Then it would truely be a group > > excercise (I'm presuming > > > that other members want to contribute). Doesn't > > have to be elaborate or > > > fancy. Perhaps a paragraph on Mandrake, > > Slackware, and RedHat. Throw > > > in an intro and summary and you've got an article > > that didn't take too > > > much of one person's time. I know that many of us > > are very busy with > > > other things, including myself. Don't want to > > take on a project that > > > would be too much work! ;-) > > > > > > Any other ideas? > > > > > > Robert Romito. > > > > > > Justin Bennett wrote: > > > > > > >Ok sounds like a plan, is this a weekly > > publication, I'll start this > > > >weekend, and I'll post what I come up with here, > > to be scrutinized by > > > >all of you... :) > > > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 09:25, Ronald Maggio wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > > >>From: "Justin Bennett" > > > > > >>To: > > > >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:14 AM > > > >>Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer > > Magazine > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is > > Linux" Article, maybe explaining > > > >>>what linux is, as well as opensource and it's > > advantages. Then throw a > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>NFLUG > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. > > As long as I get some > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>support > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>on the Proof reading side. You can probably > > tell from some of my emails, > > > >>>english isn't my strong suite... :) > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > >><------------------------------snip-------------------------------------> > > > >>Well thats how one polishes ones writing skills. > > I say fo for it and we'll > > > >>help you along the way. > > > >>May I suggest this web site for pointers on > > writing: > > > >>http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html > > > >>Strunk, William, Jr. 1918. The Elements of > > Style. This should help you, I > > > >>know it helped me. > > > >>So good luck! > > > >> > > > >>Ron > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>Justin > > > >>> > > > >>>On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro > > or an intro to Mandrake (or > > > >>>>Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone > > has. It might be fun, > > > >>>>and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG > > take on a small project. > > > >>>> > > > >>>>Justin Bennett wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>>What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux > > article, or just saying who > > > >>>>>we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on > > the mailing list for a > > > >>>>>whopping 4 days now) :) > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito > > wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the > > May edition of Buffalo > > > >>>>>>Internet and Computer Magazine > > (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > > > >>>>>>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting > > time and place - May 19th, > > > >>>>>>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does > > the group think about > > > >>>>>>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? > > Might be a fun project... > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>Robert Romito. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>-- > > > >>This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > >>dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > >>believed to be clean. > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > believed to be clean. > > -- > > ------------------------------------------- > > Justin Bennett > > Red Hat Certified Engineer > > Network Administrator > > Dynabrade Inc. > > 8989 Sheridan Dr > > Clarence, NY 14031 > > 716-631-0100 ext 215 > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 10 17:53:23 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: <20020510144815.38301.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> <1021057347.3117.11.camel@polo> Message-ID: <000b01c1f86d$1c4cbf40$f43afea9@celeronbox> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Bennett" To: Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:02 PM Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > Sure, maybe we should give some background, what linux/opensource is and > then compare some distributions, or give a review of several diffrent > dists, to give a kind of ideas of their strengths. I haven't installed > anything but redhat, (mandrake and caldera once) but from what I gather, > correct me if I'm wrong, slackware and maybe debian? are more for the > experienced users, more complicated installs?? If the idea of this > article is to intise people into giving linux a shot maybe we should > give some ideas as to which distribution is better for whowm. Begginers > may want to install Mandrake, maybe even redhat? Wouldn't want them to > get frustrated doing a text install (like freebsd) that frustrates them. > This would involve many of us commenting on our favorite distribution. > > > > Justin > <-------------------------------------------snip---------------------------- ---------------> Well the idea is getting a little over whelming for a introduction to what Linux/Opensource is all about and what part we (NFLUG) locally as a Linux users group particpate in the Linux/Opensource computer world. I think you should find out to what the publication is looking for in an article, and would they be interested in a single story or a series dealing with the topic ending with how Linux has influenced you the writer and the users group you belong to. Also include what the local seen is like here in Buffalo. An example how are companies exploring this alternative to Microsoft products, and to what extent they see their future computing needs fulfilled. In other world my best advice is keep it short and sweet. People get board reading war and peace. Ron:) > On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 10:48, Clay Berlo wrote: > > Anyone interested in a Debian review? > > > > --- Justin Bennett > > wrote: > > > Ok sounds, good ... > > > > > > On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 10:11, Robert Romito wrote: > > > > It's a monthly publication. And I haven't > > > contacted them yet. I don't > > > > know if they're even open to the idea. Just > > > wanted to see what people > > > > on the list thought of the idea. So I wouldn't > > > spend an entire weekend > > > > writing an article just yet. I was thinking we > > > could talk about this > > > > at our May meeting and bounce around a few ideas > > > before submitting > > > > anything. Once we agree on an idea, I'll contact > > > the editor and see > > > > what she thinks. > > > > > > > > Since we've got a multi-distribution mix, perhaps > > > we could have > > > > different people write different reviews / intros > > > to their favorite > > > > distribution. Then it would truely be a group > > > excercise (I'm presuming > > > > that other members want to contribute). Doesn't > > > have to be elaborate or > > > > fancy. Perhaps a paragraph on Mandrake, > > > Slackware, and RedHat. Throw > > > > in an intro and summary and you've got an article > > > that didn't take too > > > > much of one person's time. I know that many of us > > > are very busy with > > > > other things, including myself. Don't want to > > > take on a project that > > > > would be too much work! ;-) > > > > > > > > Any other ideas? > > > > > > > > Robert Romito. > > > > > > > > Justin Bennett wrote: > > > > > > > > >Ok sounds like a plan, is this a weekly > > > publication, I'll start this > > > > >weekend, and I'll post what I come up with here, > > > to be scrutinized by > > > > >all of you... :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 09:25, Ronald Maggio wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > > > >>From: "Justin Bennett" > > > > > > > >>To: > > > > >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:14 AM > > > > >>Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer > > > Magazine > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is > > > Linux" Article, maybe explaining > > > > >>>what linux is, as well as opensource and it's > > > advantages. Then throw a > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>NFLUG > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. > > > As long as I get some > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>support > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>on the Proof reading side. You can probably > > > tell from some of my emails, > > > > >>>english isn't my strong suite... :) > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >><------------------------------snip-------------------------------------> > > > > >>Well thats how one polishes ones writing skills. > > > I say fo for it and we'll > > > > >>help you along the way. > > > > >>May I suggest this web site for pointers on > > > writing: > > > > >>http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html > > > > >>Strunk, William, Jr. 1918. The Elements of > > > Style. This should help you, I > > > > >>know it helped me. > > > > >>So good luck! > > > > >> > > > > >>Ron > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>Justin > > > > >>> > > > > >>>On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro > > > or an intro to Mandrake (or > > > > >>>>Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone > > > has. It might be fun, > > > > >>>>and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG > > > take on a small project. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>Justin Bennett wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux > > > article, or just saying who > > > > >>>>>we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on > > > the mailing list for a > > > > >>>>>whopping 4 days now) :) > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito > > > wrote: > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the > > > May edition of Buffalo > > > > >>>>>>Internet and Computer Magazine > > > (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > > > > >>>>>>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting > > > time and place - May 19th, > > > > >>>>>>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does > > > the group think about > > > > >>>>>>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? > > > Might be a fun project... > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>Robert Romito. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>-- > > > > >>This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > >>dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > > >>believed to be clean. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > > believed to be clean. > > > -- > > > ------------------------------------------- > > > Justin Bennett > > > Red Hat Certified Engineer > > > Network Administrator > > > Dynabrade Inc. > > > 8989 Sheridan Dr > > > Clarence, NY 14031 > > > 716-631-0100 ext 215 > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > -- > ------------------------------------------- > Justin Bennett > Red Hat Certified Engineer > Network Administrator > Dynabrade Inc. > 8989 Sheridan Dr > Clarence, NY 14031 > 716-631-0100 ext 215 > From josephj at main.nc.us Sun May 12 15:54:44 2002 From: josephj at main.nc.us (Joe) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Email Encryption Message-ID: <002b01c1f9ee$f000c700$0201a8c0@shelelia>

Hi. I know this is a little off topic, but I'd really appreciate some feedback.

Have any of you dealt with this or have any ideas (other than scrap Windoze and just use Linux)? Thanks.

Joe

From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Mon May 13 09:42:12 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <000b01c1f86d$1c4cbf40$f43afea9@celeronbox> References: <20020510144815.38301.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> <1021057347.3117.11.camel@polo> <000b01c1f86d$1c4cbf40$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <1021297332.15229.3.camel@polo> Are you guys going to discuss this on sunday? I was planning on attending the meeting, but will be out of town. On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 17:53, Ronald Maggio wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Bennett" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:02 PM > Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > > > > Sure, maybe we should give some background, what linux/opensource is and > > then compare some distributions, or give a review of several diffrent > > dists, to give a kind of ideas of their strengths. I haven't installed > > anything but redhat, (mandrake and caldera once) but from what I gather, > > correct me if I'm wrong, slackware and maybe debian? are more for the > > experienced users, more complicated installs?? If the idea of this > > article is to intise people into giving linux a shot maybe we should > > give some ideas as to which distribution is better for whowm. Begginers > > may want to install Mandrake, maybe even redhat? Wouldn't want them to > > get frustrated doing a text install (like freebsd) that frustrates them. > > This would involve many of us commenting on our favorite distribution. > > > > > > > > Justin > > > <-------------------------------------------snip---------------------------- > ---------------> > Well the idea is getting a little over whelming for a introduction to what > Linux/Opensource > is all about and what part we (NFLUG) locally as a Linux users group > particpate in the > Linux/Opensource computer world. I think you should find out to what the > publication is > looking for in an article, and would they be interested in a single story or > a series dealing > with the topic ending with how Linux has influenced you the writer and the > users group you > belong to. Also include what the local seen is like here in Buffalo. An > example how are companies > exploring this alternative to Microsoft products, and to what extent they > see their future computing > needs fulfilled. In other world my best advice is keep it short and sweet. > People get board reading > war and peace. > > Ron:) > > > On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 10:48, Clay Berlo wrote: > > > Anyone interested in a Debian review? > > > > > > --- Justin Bennett > > > wrote: > > > > Ok sounds, good ... > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 10:11, Robert Romito wrote: > > > > > It's a monthly publication. And I haven't > > > > contacted them yet. I don't > > > > > know if they're even open to the idea. Just > > > > wanted to see what people > > > > > on the list thought of the idea. So I wouldn't > > > > spend an entire weekend > > > > > writing an article just yet. I was thinking we > > > > could talk about this > > > > > at our May meeting and bounce around a few ideas > > > > before submitting > > > > > anything. Once we agree on an idea, I'll contact > > > > the editor and see > > > > > what she thinks. > > > > > > > > > > Since we've got a multi-distribution mix, perhaps > > > > we could have > > > > > different people write different reviews / intros > > > > to their favorite > > > > > distribution. Then it would truely be a group > > > > excercise (I'm presuming > > > > > that other members want to contribute). Doesn't > > > > have to be elaborate or > > > > > fancy. Perhaps a paragraph on Mandrake, > > > > Slackware, and RedHat. Throw > > > > > in an intro and summary and you've got an article > > > > that didn't take too > > > > > much of one person's time. I know that many of us > > > > are very busy with > > > > > other things, including myself. Don't want to > > > > take on a project that > > > > > would be too much work! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Any other ideas? > > > > > > > > > > Robert Romito. > > > > > > > > > > Justin Bennett wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >Ok sounds like a plan, is this a weekly > > > > publication, I'll start this > > > > > >weekend, and I'll post what I come up with here, > > > > to be scrutinized by > > > > > >all of you... :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 09:25, Ronald Maggio wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >>From: "Justin Bennett" > > > > > > > > > >>To: > > > > > >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:14 AM > > > > > >>Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer > > > > Magazine > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>>Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is > > > > Linux" Article, maybe explaining > > > > > >>>what linux is, as well as opensource and it's > > > > advantages. Then throw a > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>NFLUG > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>>plug at the bottom. I'm willing to work on it. > > > > As long as I get some > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>support > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>>on the Proof reading side. You can probably > > > > tell from some of my emails, > > > > > >>>english isn't my strong suite... :) > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >><------------------------------snip-------------------------------------> > > > > > >>Well thats how one polishes ones writing skills. > > > > I say fo for it and we'll > > > > > >>help you along the way. > > > > > >>May I suggest this web site for pointers on > > > > writing: > > > > > >>http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html > > > > > >>Strunk, William, Jr. 1918. The Elements of > > > > Style. This should help you, I > > > > > >>know it helped me. > > > > > >>So good luck! > > > > > >> > > > > > >>Ron > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>>Justin > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>On Thursday 09 May 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>>Sure. A pro-linux article or an NFLUG intro > > > > or an intro to Mandrake (or > > > > > >>>>Slackware ;-) ) or any other idea that someone > > > > has. It might be fun, > > > > > >>>>and a good learning experience, to have NFLUG > > > > take on a small project. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>Justin Bennett wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>>What do you have in mind? Like a pro-linux > > > > article, or just saying who > > > > > >>>>>we are? (I use we loosely since I've been on > > > > the mailing list for a > > > > > >>>>>whopping 4 days now) :) > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>>On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:33, Robert Romito > > > > wrote: > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>If you stop by CompUSA, you can pickup the > > > > May edition of Buffalo > > > > > >>>>>>Internet and Computer Magazine > > > > (http://www.buffalointernet.com). It > > > > > >>>>>>even mentions NFLUG (published our meeting > > > > time and place - May 19th, > > > > > >>>>>>1:00pm at Computer SOS)! > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>BICM didn't mention Linux much. What does > > > > the group think about > > > > > >>>>>>submitting an article on Linux to BICM? > > > > Might be a fun project... > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>Robert Romito. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>-- > > > > > >>This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > > >>dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > > > >>believed to be clean. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > > > believed to be clean. > > > > -- > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > > > Justin Bennett > > > > Red Hat Certified Engineer > > > > Network Administrator > > > > Dynabrade Inc. > > > > 8989 Sheridan Dr > > > > Clarence, NY 14031 > > > > 716-631-0100 ext 215 > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! > > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > > > -- > > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > believed to be clean. > > -- > > ------------------------------------------- > > Justin Bennett > > Red Hat Certified Engineer > > Network Administrator > > Dynabrade Inc. > > 8989 Sheridan Dr > > Clarence, NY 14031 > > 716-631-0100 ext 215 > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Dynabrade using MailScanner, > and is believed to be clean. -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Mon May 13 09:44:58 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Samba 2.2.4 Question Message-ID: <1021297498.15228.7.camel@polo> I don't know how many of you may be running samba in a production environment. I have this on a redhat list and maybe asking in on a samba list shortly. Just figured one of you may have experienced a similar problem... Here Goes (What I posted to Redhat 7.3 List): Ok, This is a samba issue, and may get better results from a samba list but I'm going to try here first. I installed the new samba 2.2.4 from RPM on (Redhat) 7.3. My homes are automounted to /home from NIS/Automounter/NFS trio. Then the users homes are setup like /home/jbennett when the actual directory may be /export/home/jbennett, or actually on another machine. It works fine when you startup samba. However if I make a change to smb.conf (it updates every minute or so) like to add a share or printer, I am also playing with domain logins (Am using Solaris PCNetlink), after I write any changes to the file any new attempts to mount a home (mostly when NT clients need to be rebooted) the home will not map. I get an NT_BAD_NETWORK_NAME or something like that (when I try using smbclient).Existing connections to the share however are still working. Just new shares. It's like it gets unbound from NIS. My Samba server is also the NIS server and bound to himself (althouh it was bound to the Solaris PCNetlink box, which until recently was the master, and it did the same). Any one else experience this? Does it do this on 2.2.3a? When I restart samba it works again. Don't really want to do that during the day so, in order to get around it I needed to create a share definition for every home that needed to be remapped, without restarting samba. [jbennett] writable = yes valid users = jbennett browseable = no path = /home/jbennett create mode = 0664 directory mode = 0775 Thanks, Justin -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From hpirson at buffalo.veridian.com Mon May 13 11:51:52 2002 From: hpirson at buffalo.veridian.com (Bert Pirson) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Email Encryption References: <002b01c1f9ee$f000c700$0201a8c0@shelelia> Message-ID: <035301c1fa96$19bcb340$14366489@buffalo.veridian.com>

You could try Coolfish at http://www.compsci.co.uk/fish/

This is based on Blowfish encryption. Other programs that use this encryption are listed at http://www.counterpane.com/products.html.

I have tried Coolfish and it seems to work. I don't really use it. I have use the Blowfish encryption in one of my programs and it works very well.

Bert

----- Original Message -----

From: Joe

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 3:54 PM

Subject: Email Encryption

Hi. I know this is a little off topic, but I'd really appreciate some feedback.

I am currently running Windoze 98 on my laptop (no disk space for a dual boot etc.). I would like to encrypt some of my email. I tried pgp, but it seems to be managed by a large corporation and I don't know if I should trust it. Then, I downloaded gpg which I think I can trust, but it runs in a DOS window and I'm not really sure how to use it. The 40 page manual really doesn't address DOS or Windoze at all. Given the awkwardness, I'm not sure I could convince any of my intended recipients to use it.

Have any of you dealt with this or have any ideas (other than scrap Windoze and just use Linux)? Thanks.

Joe

From vlokstone at yahoo.com Mon May 13 12:41:49 2002 From: vlokstone at yahoo.com (vlok stone) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Email Encryption In-Reply-To: <002b01c1f9ee$f000c700$0201a8c0@shelelia> Message-ID: <20020513164150.42543.qmail@web10407.mail.yahoo.com> try here https://www.hushmail.com/ --- Joe wrote: > Hi. I know this is a little off topic, but I'd > really appreciate some feedback. > > I am currently running Windoze 98 on my laptop (no > disk space for a dual boot etc.). I would like to > encrypt some of my email. I tried pgp, but it seems > to be managed by a large corporation and I don't > know if I should trust it. Then, I downloaded gpg > which I think I can trust, but it runs in a DOS > window and I'm not really sure how to use it. The > 40 page manual really doesn't address DOS or Windoze > at all. Given the awkwardness, I'm not sure I could > convince any of my intended recipients to use it. > > Have any of you dealt with this or have any ideas > (other than scrap Windoze and just use Linux)? > Thanks. > > Joe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Mon May 13 13:21:23 2002 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Email Encryption References: <002b01c1f9ee$f000c700$0201a8c0@shelelia> Message-ID: <3CDFF613.5030904@phor.com> since your running on windows i would recommend using pgp. it's the most widely used method for encrypting messages, depending on the email client your using there are plugins to encrypt on the fly. i first used pgp with eudora about 5 years ago and was very happy. once gpg came out i of course switched to gpg. gpg has plugins for a ton of apps, check out the frontends at gnupg.org. current users of pgp might be concerned that there current public/private keys will be garbage. this is not the case. the process to convert your pgp key's to gpg key's is documented. good luck. -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org mQGiBDe4VlERBADTclFMQkLap/JdLVRFBn8Jtl/eFsgvJwrhGRgIKRd1xKXbjD3r IOXfdU2lUJNGDqyXCnW5h8WuRPxTb+W5EKi88gQDUXhcG+iMCG7EmBl3nFCEt/sL Vd7qz1S1a2WZd81UoxfSvoH7TU76p4apgwL9aWckcOWzGDBDZ9GChEt36QCg//TA ef8l4IrwCyTORPuPidI2nXEEAKKT44U7RPr+ys11rRkXdKPtvurPpNH8LlmIqp8p ZBqa4vbwyzDcGwtljtTJ/IhZ+nmD35ypU0AjikWbtWj2I6etnd7pXd4F9JsaP1JT 68apnecXVNuNqBaegsl2QFpuQrfm0lhHRe5/Igg8O2HYgk539A5NZ1TDXuc7R1Ai e/JgBADCzslVg7gamOMYAcyLhmUT0QCDjMWGwmyBql2ay2e6I29b41dXhcQz0rR2 YNClQfTid+Q8OJnNV02VMDvwC+s4auPn/kc/7CKJ7nL0+7ZLZjx/Duans7kMGdED 6cMlnL90AHv7OUkAEcOMAyS8B0YL4+TD24PurCbMINDXhlxz67QiRGFyaW4gUGVy dXNpY2ggPGRhcmlucGVyQHBob3IuY29tPohLBBARAgALBQI3uFZRBAsDAQIACgkQ IzGM/76atRuL0wCg0YKF6QyPjcnVHFsSz6TRhhlXiUUAoM2SRni/T839dpXSggNz 0Pfm4TwLuQINBDe4VlMQCAD2Qle3CH8IF3KiutapQvMF6PlTETlPtvFuuUs4INoB p1ajFOmPQFXz0AfGy0OplK33TGSGSfgMg71l6RfUodNQ+PVZX9x2Uk89PY3bzpnh V5JZzf24rnRPxfx2vIPFRzBhznzJZv8V+bv9kV7HAarTW56NoKVyOtQa8L9GAFgr 5fSI/VhOSdvNILSd5JEHNmszbDgNRR0PfIizHHxbLY7288kjwEPwpVsYjY67VYy4 XTjTNP18F1dDox0YbN4zISy1Kv884bEpQBgRjXyEpwpy1obEAxnIByl6ypUM2Zaf q9AKUJsCRtMIPWakXUGfnHy9iUsiGSa6q6Jew1XpMgs7AAICCACrdk1vgyq2afey 9E7Na8w/Btd1uPO56XFumMkY25b1NGdJzgZB5VJj6owlgty3wVwWDAVwghBB4KgF 2SWRT5LiByl49v31IrKoAN1zepX5ol+zWPCN4uNeFK5UdEOG9qY+mfOs0NGFhVpg mlfaE+UNoyEjkgZaZj/waZCO67OHlA/POBBbOactEzo7XWBdZs8tRbmGoh3kiae1 jmd2jt6unagTxgKILubYUI/cnGEB3MAtihBwuCwPcVu982uO+epyifhgVA7bNcI9 4PEfpHnv1h8nxz1BrpRif/JnxyAXm2rT7tqF27kRYKJ04/2sPyt69w4gN2sX+fo+ zPGfHKF9iD8DBRg3uFZTIzGM/76atRsRAoMGAJsG7RE1yEzVjYSqbe4NyoXKTY44 0gCfW1kXxL4NWyCL6hiE7CeYNmD6Oqk= =IDbe -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Joe wrote: > Hi. I know this is a little off topic, but I'd really appreciate some > feedback. > > > > I am currently running Windoze 98 on my laptop (no disk space for a dual > boot etc.). I would like to encrypt some of my email. I tried pgp, but > it seems to be managed by a large corporation and I don't know if I > should trust it. Then, I downloaded gpg which I think I can trust, but > it runs in a DOS window and I'm not really sure how to use it. The 40 > page manual really doesn't address DOS or Windoze at all. Given the > awkwardness, I'm not sure I could convince any of my intended recipients > to use it. > > > > Have any of you dealt with this or have any ideas (other than scrap > Windoze and just use Linux)? Thanks. > > > > Joe > -- Darin Perusich Unix Systems Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Tue May 14 08:37:17 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Winmodems Message-ID: <1021379837.19013.8.camel@polo> Ok, I here there's someone on here who gets winmodems working "first time every time" How about some help.. I'm running redhat 7.3. I have never setup anything other than an external USR (I conceded that I'd never get a winmodem to work). I have a Compaq laptop 1800T, PCI Lucent winmodem. I usually have a net connection, but I an traveling this weekend (yeah gonna miss the meeting) and would like to be able to use evolution, rather than have to dial up with M$ W2K... If you could point me in the right direction that would be apreciated. (what kernel modules to load, Steps to take ect.) Thanks Justin -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Thu May 16 10:52:22 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Is the list broke and have we picked a topic? Message-ID: <20020516145222.74711.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com> Sunday is fast approaching and I was wondering if we've decided on a topic for the meeting. I've chatted with Peter from Cybersource and he's willing to do a demo of how he sets up home users of Mandrake. He manages to get TV cards, Winmodems and a bunch of other stuff working every time. He mentioned that he's doing an average of about 5 new installs of Linux for his customers per week. Cheers! Bob ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From gjn at certainlywood.com Thu May 16 12:06:33 2002 From: gjn at certainlywood.com (Gregory J. Neumann) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Samba 2.2.4 Question In-Reply-To: <1021297498.15228.7.camel@polo> Message-ID: <3CE3A0C9.12746.25B8B7@localhost> Justin, I think the group doesn't have the Samba experience for this one. I'm using 2.0.7 at work, have 2.2.4 built, but not installed. My setup is far less complex, too. The good news is that when I posted questions to the Samba mailing list, the responses were quick and accurate! I know this doesn't help, but you're not being ignored. -Greg > I don't know how many of you may be running samba in a production > environment. I have this on a redhat list and maybe asking in on a samba > list shortly. Just figured one of you may have experienced a similar > problem... > > Here Goes (What I posted to Redhat 7.3 List): > > Ok, This is a samba issue, and may get better results from a samba list > but I'm going to try here first. I installed the new samba 2.2.4 from > RPM on (Redhat) 7.3. My homes are automounted to /home from > NIS/Automounter/NFS > trio. Then the users homes are setup like /home/jbennett when the actual > directory may be /export/home/jbennett, or actually on another machine. > It works fine when you startup samba. However if I make a change to > smb.conf (it updates every minute or so) like to add a share or printer, > I am also playing with domain logins (Am using Solaris PCNetlink), after > I write any changes to the file any new attempts to mount a home (mostly > when NT clients need to be rebooted) the home will not map. I get an > NT_BAD_NETWORK_NAME or something like that (when I try using > smbclient).Existing connections to the share however are still working. > Just new shares. It's like it gets unbound from NIS. My Samba server is > also the NIS server and bound to himself (althouh it was bound to the > Solaris PCNetlink box, which until recently was the master, and it did > the same). Any one else experience this? Does it do this on 2.2.3a? When > I restart samba it works again. Don't really want to do that during the > day so, in order to get around it I needed to create a share definition > for every home that needed to be remapped, without restarting samba. > > [jbennett] > writable = yes > valid users = jbennett > browseable = no > path = /home/jbennett > create mode = 0664 > directory mode = 0775 > > > Thanks, > Justin > > -- > ------------------------------------------- > Justin Bennett > Red Hat Certified Engineer > Network Administrator > Dynabrade Inc. > 8989 Sheridan Dr > Clarence, NY 14031 > 716-631-0100 ext 215 From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Thu May 16 13:23:26 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Samba 2.2.4 Question In-Reply-To: <3CE3A0C9.12746.25B8B7@localhost> References: <3CE3A0C9.12746.25B8B7@localhost> Message-ID: <1021569806.1773.17.camel@polo> OK Thanks Thats my next step, just wondering if anyone had experienced it. I used 2.0.7 for a while, was real stable. I tried 2.2.3 but I was having problems with 2000 clients. 2.2.4 is working really well, other than this, minor issue. Justin On Thu, 2002-05-16 at 12:06, Gregory J. Neumann wrote: > Justin, > > I think the group doesn't have the Samba experience for this one. I'm using > 2.0.7 at work, have 2.2.4 built, but not installed. My setup is far less > complex, too. The good news is that when I posted questions to the Samba mailing > list, the responses were quick and accurate! > > I know this doesn't help, but you're not being ignored. > -Greg > > I don't know how many of you may be running samba in a production > > environment. I have this on a redhat list and maybe asking in on a samba > > list shortly. Just figured one of you may have experienced a similar > > problem... > > > > Here Goes (What I posted to Redhat 7.3 List): > > > > Ok, This is a samba issue, and may get better results from a samba list > > but I'm going to try here first. I installed the new samba 2.2.4 from > > RPM on (Redhat) 7.3. My homes are automounted to /home from > > NIS/Automounter/NFS > > trio. Then the users homes are setup like /home/jbennett when the actual > > directory may be /export/home/jbennett, or actually on another machine. > > It works fine when you startup samba. However if I make a change to > > smb.conf (it updates every minute or so) like to add a share or printer, > > I am also playing with domain logins (Am using Solaris PCNetlink), after > > I write any changes to the file any new attempts to mount a home (mostly > > when NT clients need to be rebooted) the home will not map. I get an > > NT_BAD_NETWORK_NAME or something like that (when I try using > > smbclient).Existing connections to the share however are still working. > > Just new shares. It's like it gets unbound from NIS. My Samba server is > > also the NIS server and bound to himself (althouh it was bound to the > > Solaris PCNetlink box, which until recently was the master, and it did > > the same). Any one else experience this? Does it do this on 2.2.3a? When > > I restart samba it works again. Don't really want to do that during the > > day so, in order to get around it I needed to create a share definition > > for every home that needed to be remapped, without restarting samba. > > > > [jbennett] > > writable = yes > > valid users = jbennett > > browseable = no > > path = /home/jbennett > > create mode = 0664 > > directory mode = 0775 > > > > > > Thanks, > > Justin > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------- > > Justin Bennett > > Red Hat Certified Engineer > > Network Administrator > > Dynabrade Inc. > > 8989 Sheridan Dr > > Clarence, NY 14031 > > 716-631-0100 ext 215 > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Dynabrade using MailScanner, > and is believed to be clean. -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From robromito at adelphia.net Thu May 16 13:55:37 2002 From: robromito at adelphia.net (Robert Romito) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Is the list broke and have we picked a topic? References: <20020516145222.74711.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3CE3F299.2020500@adelphia.net> We could discuss doing something for BICM too. Robert Meyer wrote: >Sunday is fast approaching and I was wondering if we've decided on a topic >for the meeting. I've chatted with Peter from Cybersource and he's willing >to do a demo of how he sets up home users of Mandrake. He manages >to get TV cards, Winmodems and a bunch of other stuff working every >time. He mentioned that he's doing an average of about 5 new installs >of Linux for his customers per week. > >Cheers! > >Bob > >===== >Bob Meyer >Knightwing Communications, Inc. >36 Cayuga Blvd >Depew, NY 14043 >Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 >Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience >http://launch.yahoo.com > > > From green_man at bluefrognet.net Thu May 16 21:37:53 2002 From: green_man at bluefrognet.net (S. Lawton) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Is the list broke and have we picked a topic? In-Reply-To: <20020516145222.74711.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3CE426B1.14384.C14105@localhost> On 16 May 2002, at 7:52, Robert Meyer wrote: > Sunday is fast approaching and I was wondering if we've decided on a topic > for the meeting. I've chatted with Peter from Cybersource and he's willing > to do a demo of how he sets up home users of Mandrake. He manages > to get TV cards, Winmodems and a bunch of other stuff working every > time. He mentioned that he's doing an average of about 5 new installs > of Linux for his customers per week. > > Cheers! Been away for too long so I'm reading my LUG Inbox from the top down, rather than the bottom up as usual. I'd be glad to hear from Peter about installs, software modems, and the "grass roots" spread of Linux. If I can learn enough about Winmodems and compiling drivers into a kernel, I may get this $9 AMR modem card to work, rather than spending $70 for an external modem. The release of Open Office was mentioned in the business news on TV this week. The reporter said it could "do anything you need it to do ", and was an alternative to MicroSoft Office. She then went on to mention the free software movement, and had a big grin on her face the whole time. Business reporters are usually deadpan - I wonder where her sympathies lie :-) Scott Registered Linux User 261118 From green_man at bluefrognet.net Thu May 16 23:36:45 2002 From: green_man at bluefrognet.net (S. Lawton) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <200205101114.g4ABEw821955@jb.freyhouse.com> References: <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <3CE4428D.11068.12E1892@localhost> On 10 May 2002, at 7:14, Justin Bennett wrote: > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe explaining > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a NFLUG > plug at the bottom. [Large Edit] I think that's a good idea. When I was considering a new computer, a friend asked me what OS I was putting in. I had heard of Linux, but had no idea what it really was. I took a virtual tour of Windows XP and knew I definitely did NOT want that. I bounced around 4 or 5 websites investigating Linux, found a link to NFLUG's site, and 2 days later I was at a meeting asking questions. Scott Registered Linux User 261118 From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 17 05:09:36 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> <3CE4428D.11068.12E1892@localhost> Message-ID: <000f01c1fd82$91b94ae0$f43afea9@celeronbox> ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Lawton " To: Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:36 PM Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine > > > On 10 May 2002, at 7:14, Justin Bennett wrote: > > > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe explaining > > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a NFLUG > > plug at the bottom. > > [Large Edit] > > I think that's a good idea. > When I was considering a new computer, a friend asked me what > OS I was putting in. I had heard of Linux, but had no idea what it > really was. I took a virtual tour of Windows XP and knew I definitely > did NOT want that. And what's wrong with XP? I'm using it! Had no problems installing it on an old lagacy box. The only problem I had was for it to see the modem and give it drivers. I slipped in a PCI Motorola modem and used win 2000 drivers. Now I can connect up. I liked the looks of XP the first time I saw it at CompUSA. XP is if one really looks at it is Win NT version 5. Take some of 98SE, ME, NT 4.0 Win 2000 and put them all together and you got XP. It's not a bad OS. As stated I'm running it on a legacy box its perking along. After all its the Win NT kernel not the Win 9x kernel. Just my two cents worth! Ron:) > I bounced around 4 or 5 websites investigating Linux, found a link > to NFLUG's site, and 2 days later I was at a meeting asking > questions. > > > Scott > > Registered Linux User 261118 > From Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com Fri May 17 07:59:49 2002 From: Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com (Riga, Anthony) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F3033770656A3@bu2102.searbrown.com> I was installing a version of M$ Project for an engineer here at work and I decided to read the license agreement that M$ forces you into when installing thir software. Did you know that if you dont use the software acording to the license agreement you can take it back for a full refund. That means if you go to the store and buy a computer with Winblows on it and have no intention in using it even though its preinstalled you should have the right to get your money back! They dont give you the choice of operating systems its just assumed that people want to use M$. We as computer consumers should make more of an issue about it and get the word out there, alot of people would be taking back their winblows os for refunds and let them know there are other better alternatives to switch to Linux. From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 17 08:32:00 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <000f01c1fd82$91b94ae0$f43afea9@celeronbox> References: <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net> <3CE4428D.11068.12E1892@localhost> <000f01c1fd82$91b94ae0$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <1021638720.3322.11.camel@Office> What's wrong with windows xp?
Number one on my list would have to be the fact that if you change motherboards or certain hard ware that the system will fail. Then on reinstalls, you need to call the mothership to get a new key number for your precious OS that is assigned through a very clever formula. Not my opinion of a good way to protect against piracy. I'm sure the people on the mothership think so though. After all you must want it that way right?
That would be my biggest beef on xp, one of the other beefs would be the same as usual with ms os's, what amounts to very minor changes, mostly gui, then charging an average of $100.
I'm sure the rest of this group could highlight a few beefs as well.
On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 05:09, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "S. Lawton " <green_man@bluefrognet.net>
To: <nflug@nflug.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine

>
>
> On 10 May 2002, at 7:14, Justin Bennett wrote:
>
> > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe
explaining
> > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a
NFLUG
> > plug at the bottom.
>
> [Large Edit]
>
> I think that's a good idea.
> When I was considering a new computer, a friend asked me what
> OS I was putting in. I had heard of Linux, but had no idea what it
> really was. I took a virtual tour of Windows XP and knew I definitely
> did NOT want that.

And what's wrong with XP? I'm using it! Had no problems installing it on an
old lagacy box. The only problem I had was for it to see the modem and give
it drivers. I slipped in a PCI Motorola modem and used win 2000 drivers. Now
I can connect up. I liked the looks of XP the first time I saw it at
CompUSA. XP is if one really looks at it is Win NT version 5. Take some of
98SE, ME, NT 4.0 Win 2000 and put them all together and you got XP. It's not
a bad OS. As stated I'm running it on a legacy box its perking along. After
all its the Win NT kernel not the Win 9x kernel. Just my two cents worth!
Ron:)

> I bounced around 4 or 5 websites investigating Linux, found a link
> to NFLUG's site, and 2 days later I was at a meeting asking
> questions.
>
>
> Scott
>
> Registered Linux User 261118
>

From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Fri May 17 08:56:37 2002 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:51 2007 Subject: php project mangements software References: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F3033770656A3@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <3CE4FE05.8010806@phor.com> if your interested the systems group, a few others at cognigen are using a php/mysql project management tool called dotproject. if you'd like i can send you over the code to try out. don't get the code from project webpage at sourceforge, it hasn't been updated in over a year. we've made substantial modifications to the code to make it more useable. Riga, Anthony wrote: > I was installing a version of M$ Project for an engineer here at work and I decided to read the license agreement that M$ forces you into when installing thir software. Did you know that if you dont use the software acording to the license agreement you can take it back for a full refund. That means if you go to the store and buy a computer with Winblows on it and have no intention in using it even though its preinstalled you should have the right to get your money back! They dont give you the choice of operating systems its just assumed that people want to use M$. We as computer consumers should make more of an issue about it and get the word out there, alot of people would be taking back their winblows os for refunds and let them know there are other better alternatives to switch to Linux. > > -- Darin Perusich Unix Systems Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Fri May 17 09:16:46 2002 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: Who loves XP? In-Reply-To: <000f01c1fd82$91b94ae0$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: > And what's wrong with XP? I'm using it! Had no problems installing it on an I love questions like this :) My view of WinXP: Pros ==== Sheer 32bit kernel. Based off of the Win2000 kernel, but with no support for 16bit code. This makes it highly stable. It has yet to crash on me (BSOD) Nice GUI. A little overkill in some spots, but at least you can disable some of the features. It's the best of the Windows series (not sure if that's a great compliment) Cons ==== Product Activation. Yes it's for Piracy prevention, but passing any data to M$ concerns me.... especially when I use Windows Media player ;) Requires a powerful machine to run. My 300MHz machine will not run WinXP.... just barely runs 2000. This seems to be an ongoing trend with M$. Their next version of Windows requires a hardcore video card since the desktop is going to be 100% DirectX code. When you turn features off in XP, it really doesn't turn the features off. Sticky keys, QoS Packet Scheduler, etc. require dirty hacks to disable instead of the simple "turn this feature off" check box. I still see better gaming performance using Win98 on my 700Mhz box, than on WinXP (multi-boot). Driver availability. Many manufacturers still don't have drivers made for XP, or just point you to use the Win2000 drivers. Thought this is not a M$ con, it is an issue that can make using the OS with new hardware a headache. If you use VNC on XP, you are technically violating the license by using 3rd party Remote Desktop software. ================ Overall, I agree with Ron, XP is a nice OS. But it has it's place. For business purposes, it's nice. But I'd still go with Win98 for gaming, and Linux for servers & security. Dege So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny .... If They Weren't Happening To Me From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 17 10:13:12 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: Who loves XP? References: Message-ID: <000701c1fdac$fbb17d80$f43afea9@celeronbox> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Dege" To: Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 9:16 AM Subject: Who loves XP? > > > > And what's wrong with XP? I'm using it! Had no problems installing it on an > > I love questions like this :) My view of WinXP: > > Pros > ==== > > Sheer 32bit kernel. Based off of the Win2000 kernel, but with no support > for 16bit code. This makes it highly stable. It has yet to crash on me > (BSOD) > > Nice GUI. A little overkill in some spots, but at least you can disable > some of the features. > > It's the best of the Windows series (not sure if that's a great > compliment) > > > Cons > ==== > > Product Activation. Yes it's for Piracy prevention, but passing any data > to M$ concerns me.... especially when I use Windows Media player ;) I have not seen any product activation yet happen. Although I will have to admit I'm still installing software on it and am waiting for a newer AT&T cd to install Worldnet on this system. The one I have is not XP compatable. So I now it will do something then! Most likely state file system updates are required. > > Requires a powerful machine to run. My 300MHz machine will not run > WinXP.... just barely runs 2000. This seems to be an ongoing trend with > M$. Their next version of Windows requires a hardcore video card since > the desktop is going to be 100% DirectX code. Well I've got it running on an FIC 503+ Motherboard, AMD K6-2 500Mhz, 256mb ram, 3dfx VooDoo 4500 AGP video card 32mb video ram, Motorola modem 56kbps, PCI nic, Sound Blaster Creative Labs AWE 32 ISA 16 bit sound card, (and I did nothing XP found it and gave it drivers!) ViewSonic A75s 17" monitor. And it perks away nicely:) Smooth clean running:) > > When you turn features off in XP, it really doesn't turn the features off. > Sticky keys, QoS Packet Scheduler, etc. require dirty hacks to disable > instead of the simple "turn this feature off" check box. This I really don't care about. > > I still see better gaming performance using Win98 on my 700Mhz box, than > on WinXP (multi-boot). True, but not every one is into gaming. Later I might dualboot with (a undetermined flavor of Linux) > > Driver availability. Many manufacturers still don't have drivers made for > XP, or just point you to use the Win2000 drivers. Thought this is not a > M$ con, it is an issue that can make using the OS with new hardware a > headache. True, but thats not something new in the computer world! > > If you use VNC on XP, you are technically violating the license by using > 3rd party Remote Desktop software. So screw Bill Gates. Its my box and I'll do what I want with it! > > ================ > > Overall, I agree with Ron, XP is a nice OS. But it has it's place. For > business purposes, it's nice. Bingo! But I'd still go with Win98 for gaming, True! and > Linux for servers Well thats a user (network administrators) option! What ever floats your boat. & security. A must have!!! > > > Dege > > So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny > .... If They Weren't Happening To Me > > From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 17 10:41:32 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net><3CE4428D.11068.12E1892@localhost> <000f01c1fd82$91b94ae0$f43afea9@celeronbox> <1021638720.3322.11.camel@Office> Message-ID: <001701c1fdb0$f0371e20$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Cyber Source

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 8:32 AM

Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine

What's wrong with windows xp?
Number one on my list would have to be the fact that if you change motherboards or certain hard ware that the system will fail.

Time to start backing things up by now wouldn't you say. Well since when can you always do things without any chance of ending up doing a reinstall.

Then on reinstalls, you need to call the mothership to get a new key number for your precious OS that is assigned through a very clever formula. Not my opinion of a good way to protect against piracy. I'm sure the people on the mothership think so though. After all you must want it that way right?

Well one always has the option of doing a reinstall from scratch, and not a write over.

That would be my biggest beef on xp, one of the other beefs would be the same as usual with ms os's, what amounts to very minor changes, mostly gui, then charging an average of $100.
I'm sure the rest of this group could highlight a few beefs as well.

Since when does anything come cheep or truely free. There's always a cost or hidden cost in everything.

Well true enough about the gui changes, but I see a large change as compaired to NT 4.0, but the advantage is more profound if you've never used Win NT and have been using only the Win 9x kernel. I see it as a higher advancement of OS platforms available on the market. As Rob says everything has its place, and for me XP has one here!

And now for my comment: If we are to advance the computer world forward, I think bashing everything that does not fit into the linux point of view only sets a frame of opinion that if linux is so good then why do poeple how use linux just talk about the benefits of linux through example, and not through bashing of windows as a convincing pitch!

Your truly

Ron Maggio

On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 05:09, Ronald Maggio wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "S. Lawton " <green_man@bluefrognet.net>
To: <nflug@nflug.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine


>
>
> On 10 May 2002, at 7:14, Justin Bennett wrote:
>
> > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe
explaining
> > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a
NFLUG
> > plug at the bottom.
>
> [Large Edit]
>
> I think that's a good idea.
> When I was considering a new computer, a friend asked me what
> OS I was putting in. I had heard of Linux, but had no idea what it
> really was. I took a virtual tour of Windows XP and knew I definitely
> did NOT want that.

And what's wrong with XP? I'm using it! Had no problems installing it on an
old lagacy box. The only problem I had was for it to see the modem and give
it drivers. I slipped in a PCI Motorola modem and used win 2000 drivers. Now
I can connect up. I liked the looks of XP the first time I saw it at
CompUSA. XP is if one really looks at it is Win NT version 5. Take some of
98SE, ME, NT 4.0 Win 2000 and put them all together and you got XP. It's not
a bad OS. As stated I'm running it on a legacy box its perking along. After
all its the Win NT kernel not the Win 9x kernel. Just my two cents worth!
Ron:)


> I bounced around 4 or 5 websites investigating Linux, found a link
> to NFLUG's site, and 2 days later I was at a meeting asking
> questions.
>
>
> Scott
>
> Registered Linux User 261118
>

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 17 10:50:50 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net><3CE4428D.11068.12E1892@localhost> <000f01c1fd82$91b94ae0$f43afea9@celeronbox> <1021638720.3322.11.camel@Office> <001701c1fdb0$f0371e20$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <000901c1fdb2$3d2ab6a0$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Cyber Source

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 8:32 AM

Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine

What's wrong with windows xp?
Number one on my list would have to be the fact that if you change motherboards or certain hard ware that the system will fail.

Time to start backing things up by now wouldn't you say. Well since when can you always do things without any chance of ending up doing a reinstall.

Then on reinstalls, you need to call the mothership to get a new key number for your precious OS that is assigned through a very clever formula. Not my opinion of a good way to protect against piracy. I'm sure the people on the mothership think so though. After all you must want it that way right?

Well one always has the option of doing a reinstall from scratch, and not a write over.

That would be my biggest beef on xp, one of the other beefs would be the same as usual with ms os's, what amounts to very minor changes, mostly gui, then charging an average of $100.
I'm sure the rest of this group could highlight a few beefs as well.
Since when does anything come cheep or truely free. There's always a cost or hidden cost in everything.

Well true enough about the gui changes, but I see a large change as compaired to NT 4.0, but the advantage is more profound if you've never used Win NT and have been using only the Win 9x kernel. I see it as a higher advancement of OS platforms available on the market. As Rob says everything has its place, and for me XP has one here!

And now for my comment: If we are to advance the computer world forward, I think bashing everything that does not fit into the linux point of view only sets a frame of opinion that if linux is so good then why do poeple who use linux just talk about the benefits of linux through example, and not through bashing of windows as a convincing pitch!

Your truly

Ron Maggio

Sorry for the typo:)

On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 05:09, Ronald Maggio wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "S. Lawton " <green_man@bluefrognet.net>
To: <nflug@nflug.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine


>
>
> On 10 May 2002, at 7:14, Justin Bennett wrote:
>
> > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe
explaining
> > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a
NFLUG
> > plug at the bottom.
>
> [Large Edit]
>
> I think that's a good idea.
> When I was considering a new computer, a friend asked me what
> OS I was putting in. I had heard of Linux, but had no idea what it
> really was. I took a virtual tour of Windows XP and knew I definitely
> did NOT want that.

And what's wrong with XP? I'm using it! Had no problems installing it on an
old lagacy box. The only problem I had was for it to see the modem and give
it drivers. I slipped in a PCI Motorola modem and used win 2000 drivers. Now
I can connect up. I liked the looks of XP the first time I saw it at
CompUSA. XP is if one really looks at it is Win NT version 5. Take some of
98SE, ME, NT 4.0 Win 2000 and put them all together and you got XP. It's not
a bad OS. As stated I'm running it on a legacy box its perking along. After
all its the Win NT kernel not the Win 9x kernel. Just my two cents worth!
Ron:)


> I bounced around 4 or 5 websites investigating Linux, found a link
> to NFLUG's site, and 2 days later I was at a meeting asking
> questions.
>
>
> Scott
>
> Registered Linux User 261118
>

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 17 10:52:10 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine References: <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net><3CE4428D.11068.12E1892@localhost> <000f01c1fd82$91b94ae0$f43afea9@celeronbox> <1021638720.3322.11.camel@Office> <001701c1fdb0$f0371e20$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <001301c1fdb2$6d291720$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Cyber Source

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 8:32 AM

Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine

What's wrong with windows xp?
Number one on my list would have to be the fact that if you change motherboards or certain hard ware that the system will fail.

Time to start backing things up by now wouldn't you say. Well since when can you always do things without any chance of ending up doing a reinstall.

Then on reinstalls, you need to call the mothership to get a new key number for your precious OS that is assigned through a very clever formula. Not my opinion of a good way to protect against piracy. I'm sure the people on the mothership think so though. After all you must want it that way right?

Well one always has the option of doing a reinstall from scratch, and not a write over.

That would be my biggest beef on xp, one of the other beefs would be the same as usual with ms os's, what amounts to very minor changes, mostly gui, then charging an average of $100.
I'm sure the rest of this group could highlight a few beefs as well.
Since when does anything come cheep or truely free. There's always a cost or hidden cost in everything.

Well true enough about the gui changes, but I see a large change as compaired to NT 4.0, but the advantage is more profound if you've never used Win NT and have been using only the Win 9x kernel. I see it as a higher advancement of OS platforms available on the market. As Rob says everything has its place, and for me XP has one here!

And now for my comment: If we are to advance the computer world forward, I think bashing everything that does not fit into the linux point of view only sets a frame of opinion that if linux is so good then why don't poeple who use linux just talk about the benefits of linux through example, and not through bashing of windows as a convincing pitch!

Your truly

Ron Maggio

Sorry for the typo:)

On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 05:09, Ronald Maggio wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "S. Lawton " <green_man@bluefrognet.net>
To: <nflug@nflug.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine


>
>
> On 10 May 2002, at 7:14, Justin Bennett wrote:
>
> > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe
explaining
> > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a
NFLUG
> > plug at the bottom.
>
> [Large Edit]
>
> I think that's a good idea.
> When I was considering a new computer, a friend asked me what
> OS I was putting in. I had heard of Linux, but had no idea what it
> really was. I took a virtual tour of Windows XP and knew I definitely
> did NOT want that.

And what's wrong with XP? I'm using it! Had no problems installing it on an
old lagacy box. The only problem I had was for it to see the modem and give
it drivers. I slipped in a PCI Motorola modem and used win 2000 drivers. Now
I can connect up. I liked the looks of XP the first time I saw it at
CompUSA. XP is if one really looks at it is Win NT version 5. Take some of
98SE, ME, NT 4.0 Win 2000 and put them all together and you got XP. It's not
a bad OS. As stated I'm running it on a legacy box its perking along. After
all its the Win NT kernel not the Win 9x kernel. Just my two cents worth!
Ron:)


> I bounced around 4 or 5 websites investigating Linux, found a link
> to NFLUG's site, and 2 days later I was at a meeting asking
> questions.
>
>
> Scott
>
> Registered Linux User 261118
>

From hpirson at buffalo.veridian.com Fri May 17 10:56:28 2002 From: hpirson at buffalo.veridian.com (Bert Pirson) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: M$ license References: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F3033770656A3@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <023e01c1fdb3$06292e60$14366489@buffalo.veridian.com> A few years ago there was a movement of Linux users to return preinstalled Windose for a refund. Haven't heard much about it lately. You can search the web for more info. Here is a start: http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9901/25/winrefund.idg/ Bert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Riga, Anthony" To: "Nflug (E-mail)" Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 7:59 AM > I was installing a version of M$ Project for an engineer here at work and I decided to read the license agreement that M$ forces you into when installing thir software. Did you know that if you dont use the software acording to the license agreement you can take it back for a full refund. That means if you go to the store and buy a computer with Winblows on it and have no intention in using it even though its preinstalled you should have the right to get your money back! They dont give you the choice of operating systems its just assumed that people want to use M$. We as computer consumers should make more of an issue about it and get the word out there, alot of people would be taking back their winblows os for refunds and let them know there are other better alternatives to switch to Linux. From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 17 10:54:59 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine In-Reply-To: <001701c1fdb0$f0371e20$f43afea9@celeronbox> References: <3CDAE62E.4050609@adelphia.net><3CE4428D.11068.12E1892@localhost> <000f01c1fd82$91b94ae0$f43afea9@celeronbox> <1021638720.3322.11.camel@Office> <001701c1fdb0$f0371e20$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <1021647300.2363.3.camel@Office> Has nothing to do with backups. I can always go in and get data even if the os fails. If you've never done the activation/registration, you probably will soon (90 day window I believe).
As far as your last comment, I for one have been very busy at it :)
On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 10:41, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine

What's wrong with windows xp?
Number one on my list would have to be the fact that if you change motherboards or certain hard ware that the system will fail.

Time to start backing things up by now wouldn't you say. Well since when can you always do things without any chance of ending up doing a reinstall.

Then on reinstalls, you need to call the mothership to get a new key number for your precious OS that is assigned through a very clever formula. Not my opinion of a good way to protect against piracy. I'm sure the people on the mothership think so though. After all you must want it that way right?

Well one always has the option of doing a reinstall from scratch, and not a write over.

That would be my biggest beef on xp, one of the other beefs would be the same as usual with ms os's, what amounts to very minor changes, mostly gui, then charging an average of $100.
I'm sure the rest of this group could highlight a few beefs as well.

Since when does anything come cheep or truely free. There's always a cost or hidden cost in everything.
Well true enough about the gui changes, but I see a large change as compaired to NT 4.0, but the advantage is more profound if you've never used Win NT and have been using only the Win 9x kernel. I see it as a higher advancement of OS platforms available on the market. As Rob says everything has its place, and for me XP has one here!

And now for my comment: If we are to advance the computer world forward, I think bashing everything that does not fit into the linux point of view only sets a frame of opinion that if linux is so good then why do poeple how use linux just talk about the benefits of linux through example, and not through bashing of windows as a convincing pitch!

Your truly

Ron Maggio

On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 05:09, Ronald Maggio wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "S. Lawton " <green_man@bluefrognet.net>
To: <nflug@nflug.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: Buffalo Internet and Computer Magazine


>
>
> On 10 May 2002, at 7:14, Justin Bennett wrote:
>
> > Ok I'm up for it, I'm thinking a "What is Linux" Article, maybe
explaining
> > what linux is, as well as opensource and it's advantages. Then throw a
NFLUG
> > plug at the bottom.
>
> [Large Edit]
>
> I think that's a good idea.
> When I was considering a new computer, a friend asked me what
> OS I was putting in. I had heard of Linux, but had no idea what it
> really was. I took a virtual tour of Windows XP and knew I definitely
> did NOT want that.

And what's wrong with XP? I'm using it! Had no problems installing it on an
old lagacy box. The only problem I had was for it to see the modem and give
it drivers. I slipped in a PCI Motorola modem and used win 2000 drivers. Now
I can connect up. I liked the looks of XP the first time I saw it at
CompUSA. XP is if one really looks at it is Win NT version 5. Take some of
98SE, ME, NT 4.0 Win 2000 and put them all together and you got XP. It's not
a bad OS. As stated I'm running it on a legacy box its perking along. After
all its the Win NT kernel not the Win 9x kernel. Just my two cents worth!
Ron:)


> I bounced around 4 or 5 websites investigating Linux, found a link
> to NFLUG's site, and 2 days later I was at a meeting asking
> questions.
>
>
> Scott
>
> Registered Linux User 261118
>

From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 17 10:59:36 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: one more on the last comment Message-ID: <1021647576.2361.7.camel@Office> Can you tell me a better/safer platform for online/email use other than Linux? (in the context of virus safety). Thanks to Klez32, I've done approx. 10 Linux installs this week alone :)

From todd at phyberoptiks.net Fri May 17 11:13:11 2002 From: todd at phyberoptiks.net (Todd Wirth) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: one more on the last comment In-Reply-To: <1021647576.2361.7.camel@Office> Message-ID: <003501c1fdb5$5bf782e0$02fea8c0@pepsi>

The "best" platform is no platform. LOL

Reminds me of a sex-ed lecture.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Cyber Source
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:00 AM
To: nflug@nflug.org
Subject: one more on the last comment

Can you tell me a better/safer platform for online/email use other than Linux? (in the context of virus safety). Thanks to Klez32, I've done approx. 10 Linux installs this week alone :)

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 17 11:18:53 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: one more on the last comment References: <1021647576.2361.7.camel@Office> Message-ID: <001501c1fdb6$28c8ad80$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Cyber Source

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:59 AM

Subject: one more on the last comment

Can you tell me a better/safer platform for online/email use other than Linux? (in the context of virus safety). Thanks to Klez32, I've done approx. 10 Linux installs this week alone :)

Its all well and good to state this and that, but go into a CompUSA on a Sunday and see the average end user (gas and go)

All in all I see a lot of self serving going on in the computer world mainly from the people with an advanced level of computer knowledge who fail to see that their view of the computer world is vary small. Industry sales are mainly due to gaming and other computer past times. I don't see it ever changing. So my opinion was stated as a general observation not a look at any particular

segment of the computer world.

Ron

From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 17 11:44:31 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: one more on the last comment Message-ID: <1021650271.2373.10.camel@Office> -----Forwarded Message-----
From: Cyber Source <peter@cybersource.us>
To: nflug@nflug.org
Subject: Re: one more on the last comment
Date: 17 May 2002 11:43:29 -0400

I don't go to CompUSA. It is there for the end-user and whoever may need something right away. The point I am making is that while the masses all drone in line following the ms piper, I have been turning my clients onto what is sometimes not there yet, not understood, sometimes equal and quite often sometimes better alternative. I make an honest living trying to help people in the computer world to see and do more. I'm not here to bash I happen to really like Linux and so do my customers. I'll be the first to voice it. I think ms has enough voices working for it (as well as some unscrupulous practices).
There's my .02 worth :)
On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 11:18, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:59 AM
Subject: one more on the last comment

Can you tell me a better/safer platform for online/email use other than Linux? (in the context of virus safety). Thanks to Klez32, I've done approx. 10 Linux installs this week alone :)

Its all well and good to state this and that, but go into a CompUSA on a Sunday and see the average end user (gas and go)
All in all I see a lot of self serving going on in the computer world mainly from the people with an advanced level of computer knowledge who fail to see that their view of the computer world is vary small. Industry sales are mainly due to gaming and other computer past times. I don't see it ever changing. So my opinion was stated as a general observation not a look at any particular
segment of the computer world.

Ron

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Fri May 17 12:18:01 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: one more on the last comment References: <1021650271.2373.10.camel@Office> Message-ID: <000d01c1fdbe$6b685de0$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Cyber Source

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:44 AM

Subject: Re: one more on the last comment

-----Forwarded Message-----
From: Cyber Source <peter@cybersource.us>
To: nflug@nflug.org
Subject: Re: one more on the last comment
Date: 17 May 2002 11:43:29 -0400

I don't go to CompUSA. It is there for the end-user and whoever may need something right away. The point I am making is that while the masses all drone in line following the ms piper, I have been turning my clients onto what is sometimes not there yet, not understood, sometimes equal and quite often sometimes better alternative. I make an honest living trying to help people in the computer world to see and do more. I'm not here to bash I happen to really like Linux and so do my customers. I'll be the first to voice it. I think ms has enough voices working for it (as well as some unscrupulous practices).
There's my .02 worth :)

I whole heartily agree. As far as the bashing goes, it was general observation not a finger pointing in anyones direction. I think peter the phrase is the (The masses are asses). I do see a place for any OS platform, but its the end users option to give money to M$ or try an alternative. The only one problem I see is that the alternative has a higher learning curve, and without help the aveage end user can't make heads or tails of it. Even though Mandrake has made it easier to get Linux up and running and being able to dial out so on and so forth, but the inner workings are still a mystery to the vast majority raised on DOS/Windows. Also it may or may not be in the near furture more user friendly. Remember Unix/Linux did not get the jump start on the desktop, so the public raised on Windows can't or won't convert or use equally over night. As well from what I've seen and heard over the the years most people don't even know what DOS is or what is does. Again the gas and go user! Well see you all at the meeting:)

Ron

On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 11:18, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:59 AM
Subject: one more on the last comment

Can you tell me a better/safer platform for online/email use other than Linux? (in the context of virus safety). Thanks to Klez32, I've done approx. 10 Linux installs this week alone :)

Its all well and good to state this and that, but go into a CompUSA on a Sunday and see the average end user (gas and go)
All in all I see a lot of self serving going on in the computer world mainly from the people with an advanced level of computer knowledge who fail to see that their view of the computer world is vary small. Industry sales are mainly due to gaming and other computer past times. I don't see it ever changing. So my opinion was stated as a general observation not a look at any particular
segment of the computer world.

Ron

From peter at thecybersource.com Sat May 18 09:25:02 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: meeting Message-ID: <1021728302.3399.14.camel@Office> I regretfully have to miss tomorrow's meeting as some work and vehicle emergencies have popped up. I really haven't had time to prepare stuff for the installation presentation and there seemed to be a lack of interest on this as far as feedback from everyone. I would like to slate it for the next meeting if there is still an interest.

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Sat May 18 11:47:22 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: meeting References: <1021728302.3399.14.camel@Office> Message-ID: <001501c1fe83$4f518d00$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Cyber Source

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 9:25 AM

Subject: meeting

I regretfully have to miss tomorrow's meeting as some work and vehicle emergencies have popped up. I really haven't had time to prepare stuff for the installation presentation and there seemed to be a lack of interest on this as far as feedback from everyone. I would like to slate it for the next meeting if there is still an interest.

Sorry to hear about that. Well I was looking forward to this meeting for your presentation on how to install a soft modem, so on and so forth. I also hoped that you where going to have a handout to read as a short review of your presentation. ie: web links, ect, for further information on the subjects covered. I still have great interest in the topics you where going to cover. So if you are going to present them at the next meeting, I will look forward to that presentation.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From peter at thecybersource.com Sat May 18 14:24:50 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: meeting In-Reply-To: <001501c1fe83$4f518d00$f43afea9@celeronbox> References: <1021728302.3399.14.camel@Office> <001501c1fe83$4f518d00$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <1021746290.2355.10.camel@Office> Thanks Ron,
Ok then, I will plan on it for the next meeting if that is ok with everyone. I just haven't had the time lately to prepare anything. I will do an installation with a software modem, if we have internet, show how to install LimeWire with Java (very cool) and even install a tv tuner card, Bob Meyer really gets a kick out of those (they do rock!). If people would like for me to do this at the next meeting, I will prepare, please voice up people.
On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 11:47, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 9:25 AM
Subject: meeting

I regretfully have to miss tomorrow's meeting as some work and vehicle emergencies have popped up. I really haven't had time to prepare stuff for the installation presentation and there seemed to be a lack of interest on this as far as feedback from everyone. I would like to slate it for the next meeting if there is still an interest.

Sorry to hear about that. Well I was looking forward to this meeting for your presentation on how to install a soft modem, so on and so forth. I also hoped that you where going to have a handout to read as a short review of your presentation. ie: web links, ect, for further information on the subjects covered. I still have great interest in the topics you where going to cover. So if you are going to present them at the next meeting, I will look forward to that presentation.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Sat May 18 15:44:43 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: meeting References: <1021728302.3399.14.camel@Office> <001501c1fe83$4f518d00$f43afea9@celeronbox> <1021746290.2355.10.camel@Office> Message-ID: <000f01c1fea4$75cc4ee0$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Cyber Source

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 2:24 PM

Subject: Re: meeting

Thanks Ron,
Ok then, I will plan on it for the next meeting if that is ok with everyone. I just haven't had the time lately to prepare anything. I will do an installation with a software modem, if we have internet, show how to install LimeWire with Java (very cool) and even install a tv tuner card, Bob Meyer really gets a kick out of those (they do rock!). If people would like for me to do this at the next meeting, I will prepare, please voice up people.
On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 11:47, Ronald Maggio wrote:

Well I have a Motorola SM56K winmodem on my AMD box, I was planning to add another HDD to install Mandrake 8.? and as well a cd-rw. Now here's where your presentation would come in handy for someone like me. Motorola does not make modems anymore, but they have this webpage available to download the drivers for Windows 2000 and also for Linux. (Thats how I got the modem to work with XP) Here's the web site for the drivers. Oh I did download the drivers for Linux. http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=SM56PCI2DFV&nodeId=01M0yyK3NVV

I hope to be able to install this modem for Linux as I have done for XP. I also have a question. Have you or anyone done a dualboot with XP and Linux with LILO or GRUB and was it a pain or easy? Anything I should know about? Please share:) Its a nice speakerphone voice modem vary popular and stable. I often see it still available cheep around twenty dollars. Don't ask me what I paid a couple years ago, but it was selling for more then it going for now! Installing it in XP was relatively easy. I would not recommend installing it manually from safemode but let XP do an automatic installation from safemode and your in like flint. Yes I know what is going to be said. How come you had to install the modem in this way, and how its easyer to install a modem in Linux is ya da ya da ya da. Well I like XP and this is the nature of the beast and I had no misconception about XP and how to install hardware on it. I read the compatibility information listed at M$ web site and knew what I was getting into. I have never seen a perfect relationship between the end user and the beast.

So see you fellows tomorrow.

Ron:)

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 9:25 AM
Subject: meeting

I regretfully have to miss tomorrow's meeting as some work and vehicle emergencies have popped up. I really haven't had time to prepare stuff for the installation presentation and there seemed to be a lack of interest on this as far as feedback from everyone. I would like to slate it for the next meeting if there is still an interest.

Sorry to hear about that. Well I was looking forward to this meeting for your presentation on how to install a soft modem, so on and so forth. I also hoped that you where going to have a handout to read as a short review of your presentation. ie: web links, ect, for further information on the subjects covered. I still have great interest in the topics you where going to cover. So if you are going to present them at the next meeting, I will look forward to that presentation.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From umar99 at yahoo.com Sat May 18 16:24:19 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: adelphia cable on linux Message-ID: <20020518202419.88067.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, This is a rather simple problem, but for some reason can't figure it out. Just got adelphia cable. Works fine in windows, but doesn't in linux (Mandrake 8.0). I get the IP address from dhcp server and it shows up when i do ifconfig, but none of my browsers work. Is there any other thing I need to configure? Thanks. Umar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From peter at thecybersource.com Sat May 18 16:30:18 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: meeting Message-ID: <1021753818.2364.18.camel@Office>
I've never done a dual boot with XP and anything. I would imagine it's like the rest though, do the Windows first then do the Linux. I also believe that Mandrake 8x with LILO writes to the MBR of the drive it booted from (or was installed to) automatically. As with the modem, the chipset is the important piece. Conexant chipsets (used on alot of motorola's) have great linux support. Lucent has good support as well while Rockwell I've found to be the most trouble. Good luck with it, if you need help b4 the next meeting, let me know
On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 15:44, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: meeting

Thanks Ron,
Ok then, I will plan on it for the next meeting if that is ok with everyone. I just haven't had the time lately to prepare anything. I will do an installation with a software modem, if we have internet, show how to install LimeWire with Java (very cool) and even install a tv tuner card, Bob Meyer really gets a kick out of those (they do rock!). If people would like for me to do this at the next meeting, I will prepare, please voice up people.
On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 11:47, Ronald Maggio wrote:

Well I have a Motorola SM56K winmodem on my AMD box, I was planning to add another HDD to install Mandrake 8.? and as well a cd-rw. Now here's where your presentation would come in handy for someone like me. Motorola does not make modems anymore, but they have this webpage available to download the drivers for Windows 2000 and also for Linux. (Thats how I got the modem to work with XP) Here's the web site for the drivers. Oh I did download the drivers for Linux. http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=SM56PCI2DFV&nodeId=01M0yyK3NVV
I hope to be able to install this modem for Linux as I have done for XP. I also have a question. Have you or anyone done a dualboot with XP and Linux with LILO or GRUB and was it a pain or easy? Anything I should know about? Please share:) Its a nice speakerphone voice modem vary popular and stable. I often see it still available cheep around twenty dollars. Don't ask me what I paid a couple years ago, but it was selling for more then it going for now! Installing it in XP was relatively easy. I would not recommend installing it manually from safemode but let XP do an automatic installation from safemode and your in like flint. Yes I know what is going to be said. How come you had to install the modem in this way, and how its easyer to install a modem in Linux is ya da ya da ya da. Well I like XP and this is the nature of the beast and I had no misconception about XP and how to install hardware on it. I read the compatibili ! ty information listed at M$ web site and knew what I was getting into. I have never seen a perfect relationship between the end user and the beast.
So see you fellows tomorrow.

Ron:)

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 9:25 AM
Subject: meeting

I regretfully have to miss tomorrow's meeting as some work and vehicle emergencies have popped up. I really haven't had time to prepare stuff for the installation presentation and there seemed to be a lack of interest on this as far as feedback from everyone. I would like to slate it for the next meeting if there is still an interest.

Sorry to hear about that. Well I was looking forward to this meeting for your presentation on how to install a soft modem, so on and so forth. I also hoped that you where going to have a handout to read as a short review of your presentation. ie: web links, ect, for further information on the subjects covered. I still have great interest in the topics you where going to cover. So if you are going to present them at the next meeting, I will look forward to that presentation.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From kagalle at infoblvd.net Sat May 18 16:46:58 2002 From: kagalle at infoblvd.net (Ken Galle) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: adelphia cable on linux In-Reply-To: <20020518202419.88067.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020518202419.88067.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020518164658.51961c2a.kagalle@infoblvd.net> Make sure you have a default route and make sure you can resolve names (most likly the problem). Since it is a cable on-all-the-time connection, you can just add "nameserver x.x.x.x" to the /etc/resolv.conf file, where x.x.x.x is the adelphia's dns server. Check the route by doing "route". The method for adding a static route varies by distro - redhat it is under /etc/sysconfig/routes, and the format of the file is sort of odd. I always end up looking at the /etc/rc.d/init.d/network script to figure it out. Don't know about mandrake. Ken On Sat, 18 May 2002 13:24:19 -0700 (PDT) umar wrote: > Hi, > > This is a rather simple problem, but for some reason > can't figure it out. > > Just got adelphia cable. Works fine in windows, but > doesn't in linux (Mandrake 8.0). I get the IP address > from dhcp server and it shows up when i do ifconfig, > but none of my browsers work. Is there any other thing > I need to configure? Thanks. > > Umar > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > From todd at phyberoptiks.net Sat May 18 16:48:54 2002 From: todd at phyberoptiks.net (Todd Wirth) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: adelphia cable on linux In-Reply-To: <20020518202419.88067.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005001c1fead$6c375f10$02fea8c0@pepsi> There are some options to dhcpcd that might be working against you. You're probally just having name resolution problems. Check the file /etc/resolv.conf If it's empty the dhcp client is probally being run with the -R option which prevents dhcpcd from overwriting the /etc/resolv.conf file. The file stores your name servers, and domain information. dhcpcd -k (will kill the client) dhcpcd [interface] (will start the client again on an optional interface (eth0 is probally yours)) I'm running my own DNS server, but I have these two IPs from a while ago which I think are valid. You could put this in /etc/resolv.conf and it should work: nameserver 24.48.33.2 nameserver 24.48.33.3 Some utils to test name resolution are nslookup and dig. Typing: dig www.adelphia.net Should yield: <--stuff here--> ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.adelphia.net. 21908 IN A 64.8.50.26 <--more stuff here--> Hope that helps, -- Todd -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of umar Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 4:24 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: adelphia cable on linux Hi, This is a rather simple problem, but for some reason can't figure it out. Just got adelphia cable. Works fine in windows, but doesn't in linux (Mandrake 8.0). I get the IP address from dhcp server and it shows up when i do ifconfig, but none of my browsers work. Is there any other thing I need to configure? Thanks. Umar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From kagalle at infoblvd.net Sat May 18 16:52:10 2002 From: kagalle at infoblvd.net (Ken Galle) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: adelphia cable on linux In-Reply-To: <20020518202419.88067.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020518202419.88067.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020518165210.214e490d.kagalle@infoblvd.net> Umar, sorry to post twice, but I'd better just add - be sure you have firwall rules setup and unused services turned off. Telnet for sure, ssh also if you are not going to use it. Also, make sure you use a strong root password - long and not made of words. They will find you - you can be sure. Be sure you are ready. Ken From deadpoint at adelphia.net Sat May 18 17:04:15 2002 From: deadpoint at adelphia.net (deadpoint@adelphia.net) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: adelphia cable on linux In-Reply-To: <20020518164658.51961c2a.kagalle@infoblvd.net> References: <20020518202419.88067.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> <20020518202419.88067.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4.1.20020518165732.009f7800@mail.abs.adelphia.net> you shouldn't need to do this, the dhcp client on you machine will get and configure your IP address, name servers, and default route. it will configure all routing actually. if you open a terminal window and to ifconfig -a or ifconfig eth0 you should have an IP address assigned from adelphia. if you run netstat -rn you'll get the routing info, the default route should be similare to you IP address, with the last octet being 1. if you cat /etc/resolv.conf it should contain info like: domain buf.adelphia.net. nameserver 24.48.33.2 nameserver 24.48.33.3 search buf.adelphia.net. if you have a defaul route can you ping it, can you ping the nameserver IP address? At 04:46 PM 5/18/02 -0400, you wrote: >Make sure you have a default route and make sure you can resolve names (most >likly the problem). Since it is a cable on-all-the-time connection, you can >just add "nameserver x.x.x.x" to the /etc/resolv.conf file, where x.x.x.x is >the adelphia's dns server. Check the route by doing "route". The method >for adding a static route varies by distro - redhat it is under >/etc/sysconfig/routes, and the format of the file is sort of odd. I always >end up looking at the /etc/rc.d/init.d/network script to figure it out. >Don't know about mandrake. > >Ken > >On Sat, 18 May 2002 13:24:19 -0700 (PDT) >umar wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> This is a rather simple problem, but for some reason >> can't figure it out. >> >> Just got adelphia cable. Works fine in windows, but >> doesn't in linux (Mandrake 8.0). I get the IP address >> from dhcp server and it shows up when i do ifconfig, >> but none of my browsers work. Is there any other thing >> I need to configure? Thanks. >> >> Umar >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience >> http://launch.yahoo.com >> From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Sat May 18 19:43:05 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: meeting References: <1021753818.2364.18.camel@Office> Message-ID: <001701c1fec5$c2ae4da0$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Cyber Source

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 4:30 PM

Subject: Re: meeting

I've never done a dual boot with XP and anything. I would imagine it's like the rest though, do the Windows first then do the Linux. I also believe that Mandrake 8x with LILO writes to the MBR of the drive it booted from (or was installed to) automatically. As with the modem, the chipset is the important piece. Conexant chipsets (used on alot of motorola's) have great linux support. Lucent has good support as well while Rockwell I've found to be the most trouble. Good luck with it, if you need help b4 the next meeting, let me know
On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 15:44, Ronald Maggio wrote:

Well it won't be for some time till I get the money together to buy another HDD and maybe a cd-rw as well. I believe it says Motorola right on the chip (sets) so I have no idea weather it's really Conexant or otherwise. I'm going to put the other HDD as a secondary on the secondary IDE channel and set the cd-rw to primary on the same channel. Well LILO or GRUB can be written to the bootrecords in a few ways, I just let it write the bootrecord as an additional line of I guess for lack of a better term (instructions)? to the MBR on the primary drive primary channel. I tend to leave well enough alone, and if I run into trouble I just fdisk the MBR and reinstall Linux. ie: fdisk /mbr at a DOS prompt. Well after your presentation next month I'm sure I'll understand how to do it. At least I hope! I'm still kind of at a loss at Linux, but I hope in time I'll get the hang of it. You know I picked up DOS and Windows really quick but for the life of me I just can't get to understand the picture. I mean the inner working of it seem to loose me. I don't know I guess in time I'll get it? Well see ya:)

Ron

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: meeting

Thanks Ron,
Ok then, I will plan on it for the next meeting if that is ok with everyone. I just haven't had the time lately to prepare anything. I will do an installation with a software modem, if we have internet, show how to install LimeWire with Java (very cool) and even install a tv tuner card, Bob Meyer really gets a kick out of those (they do rock!). If people would like for me to do this at the next meeting, I will prepare, please voice up people.
On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 11:47, Ronald Maggio wrote:

Well I have a Motorola SM56K winmodem on my AMD box, I was planning to add another HDD to install Mandrake 8.? and as well a cd-rw. Now here's where your presentation would come in handy for someone like me. Motorola does not make modems anymore, but they have this webpage available to download the drivers for Windows 2000 and also for Linux. (Thats how I got the modem to work with XP) Here's the web site for the drivers. Oh I did download the drivers for Linux. http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=SM56PCI2DFV&nodeId=01M0yyK3NVV
I hope to be able to install this modem for Linux as I have done for XP. I also have a question. Have you or anyone done a dualboot with XP and Linux with LILO or GRUB and was it a pain or easy? Anything I should know about? Please share:) Its a nice speakerphone voice modem vary popular and stable. I often see it still available cheep around twenty dollars. Don't ask me what I paid a couple years ago, but it was selling for more then it going for now! Installing it in XP was relatively easy. I would not recommend installing it manually from safemode but let XP do an automatic installation from safemode and your in like flint. Yes I know what is going to be said. How come you had to install the modem in this way, and how its easyer to install a modem in Linux is ya da ya da ya da. Well I like XP and this is the nature of the beast and I had no misconception about XP and how to install hardware on it. I read the compatibili! ty information listed at M$ web site and knew what I was getting into. I have never seen a perfect relationship between the end user and the beast.
So see you fellows tomorrow.

Ron:)

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 9:25 AM
Subject: meeting

I regretfully have to miss tomorrow's meeting as some work and vehicle emergencies have popped up. I really haven't had time to prepare stuff for the installation presentation and there seemed to be a lack of interest on this as far as feedback from everyone. I would like to slate it for the next meeting if there is still an interest.

Sorry to hear about that. Well I was looking forward to this meeting for your presentation on how to install a soft modem, so on and so forth. I also hoped that you where going to have a handout to read as a short review of your presentation. ie: web links, ect, for further information on the subjects covered. I still have great interest in the topics you where going to cover. So if you are going to present them at the next meeting, I will look forward to that presentation.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From green_man at bluefrognet.net Sat May 18 19:52:55 2002 From: green_man at bluefrognet.net (S. Lawton) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: meeting In-Reply-To: <1021728302.3399.14.camel@Office> Message-ID: <3CE6B117.26505.C0B305@localhost> On 18 May 2002, at 9:25, Cyber Source wrote: > I regretfully have to miss tomorrow's meeting as some work and vehicle > emergencies have popped up. I really haven't had time to prepare stuff > for the installation presentation and there seemed to be a lack of > interest on this as far as feedback from everyone. I would like to > slate it for the next meeting if there is still an interest. > > > > Too bad, I was really looking forward to it. I was preparing a list of questions about installs, reinstalls with Windows, softmodems, etc. Possible conflict next month - my calendar says the 3rd SUN [16 JUN 02] is Father's Day. Not a problem for me personally, but we might as well start discussing it. Here's a pitch: Linux - it's better than a necktie ! Sl?inte, Scott From robromito at adelphia.net Sat May 18 21:47:24 2002 From: robromito at adelphia.net (Robert Romito) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: Tomorrow's Meeting Message-ID: <3CE7042C.4020008@adelphia.net> Hi Everyone. My allergies have been doing a number on me the past few days. Sorry, but I won't make the meeting tomorrow. Please go ahead and talk ing about an article for BICM. If you don't get to it, that's OK too. We can always discuss through the list or at the next meeting. Have fun tomorrow. Robert Romito. From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Sun May 19 07:49:00 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: meeting References: <3CE6B117.26505.C0B305@localhost> Message-ID: <001901c1ff2b$2cb7bc80$f43afea9@celeronbox> ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Lawton" To: Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 7:52 PM Subject: Re: meeting On 18 May 2002, at 9:25, Cyber Source wrote: > I regretfully have to miss tomorrow's meeting as some work and vehicle > emergencies have popped up. I really haven't had time to prepare stuff > for the installation presentation and there seemed to be a lack of > interest on this as far as feedback from everyone. I would like to > slate it for the next meeting if there is still an interest. > > > > Too bad, I was really looking forward to it. I was preparing a list of questions about installs, reinstalls with Windows, softmodems, etc. Possible conflict next month - my calendar says the 3rd SUN [16 JUN 02] is Father's Day. Not a problem for me personally, but we might as well start discussing it. Here's a pitch: Linux - it's better than a necktie ! Sl?inte, Scott I think nothing but a major holiday has anything to do with canceling or rescheduling a meeting. If we had to cancel a meeting date because of it landing on every holiday we would never have a meeting. Take a look at the calendar every time you turn around its some dam holiday. I think all these dumb celebrations should not even be a question as to weather to schedule a meeting on that day. The only time a meeting should be rescheduled is when it lands on like I said a major holiday. ie: Thanksgiving, Christmas, or Easter. My two cents worth. Ron:) From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Sun May 19 18:09:04 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: Next meeting date & DEC Alpha Message-ID: <000a01c1ff81$cab973a0$f43afea9@celeronbox>

Hi All.

I vote for the 30th of June (No holidays land on this day!) this way it will give me time to put things together for the meeting.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Sun May 19 18:30:22 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: Redmond Linux Message-ID: <000a01c1ff84$c4898f80$f43afea9@celeronbox>

Well I went to the site and tried to see how lone it would take to download with a 56k modem. Forget it 1 day and 20 hours!

Thanks:)

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From umar99 at yahoo.com Sun May 19 21:30:43 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: connection sharing issues Message-ID: <20020520013043.15471.qmail@web11301.mail.yahoo.com> Hi again, Well, the cable connection is now working. Just made the entry for namservers and all set. Now another problem I am having is that I want to share my connection with my roommates (they use XP). I run the internet connection sharing wizard (in Mandrake Control Center) and it says it's running. Now I am getting ip address in client computer but they can't browse any website. I tried to ping some websites and the URL seems to resolve but I am not getting any ping replies. Seems like my computer is blocking their requests. I disabled the firewall and reduced the security level to minimum, but that didn't solve the problem. Now get me out of this situation. Thanks. Umar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Sun May 19 22:02:34 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: Redmond Linux In-Reply-To: <000a01c1ff84$c4898f80$f43afea9@celeronbox> References: <000a01c1ff84$c4898f80$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <1021860154.12549.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Sure, No problem. I'm in Tennesee now, on vacation, I will be back tuesday. I can get it then, if you don't have it by then... I'm on Dialup now.. :( Justin On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 18:30, Ronald Maggio wrote: > Well I went to the site and tried to see how lone it would take to download with a 56k modem. Forget it 1 day and 20 hours! > If someone has a cable or dsl modem would you please downloaded it for me its only 3 cd's worth and should take only a few hours with broadband. Redmond Linux is available at: http://www.lycoris.com/ use north american mirror. > Thanks:) > > Ron Maggio > Have Screwdriver Will Travel > Computer Repair Service > P.O. BOX 186 > Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186 > Phone: (716) 677-5909 > havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Dynabrade using MailScanner, > and is believed to be clean. > -- From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Mon May 20 07:08:48 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: DEC Alpha Message-ID: <000701c1ffee$b8af9aa0$f43afea9@celeronbox> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: Size: 1425 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/19650101/25d0f9b6/attachment-0001.ksh -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Attached File Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 24222 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/19650101/25d0f9b6/AttachedFile-0001.bin From mrjames at localnet.com Mon May 20 07:10:31 2002 From: mrjames at localnet.com (mrjames@localnet.com) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:52 2007 Subject: php project mangements software In-Reply-To: <3CE4FE05.8010806@phor.com> References: <3CE4FE05.8010806@phor.com> Message-ID: <4532.65.115.14.3.1021893031.squirrel@webmailmax.localnet.com> I would be interested in obtaining a copy. Could you please forward a copy to my email address: mjames@shs.k12.ny.us Michael James Assistant Systems Engineer Sweet Home Schools > if your interested the systems group, a few others at cognigen are > using a php/mysql project management tool called dotproject. if you'd > like i can send you over the code to try out. don't get the code from > project webpage at sourceforge, it hasn't been updated in over a year. > we've made substantial modifications to the code to make it more > useable. > > Riga, Anthony wrote: > >> I was installing a version of M$ Project for an engineer here at work >> and I decided to read the license agreement that M$ forces you into >> when installing thir software. Did you know that if you dont use the >> software acording to the license agreement you can take it back for a >> full refund. That means if you go to the store and buy a computer with >> Winblows on it and have no intention in using it even though its >> preinstalled you should have the right to get your money back! They >> dont give you the choice of operating systems its just assumed that >> people want to use M$. We as computer consumers should make more of an >> issue about it and get the word out there, alot of people would be >> taking back their winblows os for refunds and let them know there are >> other better alternatives to switch to Linux. >> >> > > > -- > Darin Perusich > Unix Systems Administrator > Cognigen Corp. > darinper@cognigencorp.com From vlokstone at yahoo.com Mon May 20 08:42:11 2002 From: vlokstone at yahoo.com (vlok stone) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: adelphia cable on linux In-Reply-To: <20020518202419.88067.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020520124211.15110.qmail@web10405.mail.yahoo.com> 1st check if you can ping past your gateway. don't use a proxy server, edit-> pref -> direct connection. should be good to go. if that doesn't work, check if dns severs are resolving urls if not, use another dns server ( 4.2.2.2 ) . --- umar wrote: > Hi, > > This is a rather simple problem, but for some reason > can't figure it out. > > Just got adelphia cable. Works fine in windows, but > doesn't in linux (Mandrake 8.0). I get the IP > address > from dhcp server and it shows up when i do ifconfig, > but none of my browsers work. Is there any other > thing > I need to configure? Thanks. > > Umar > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Mon May 20 09:40:27 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: meeting In-Reply-To: <1021746290.2355.10.camel@Office> Message-ID: <20020520134027.59957.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> --- Cyber Source wrote: > Thanks Ron, > Ok then, I will plan on it for the next meeting if that is ok with > everyone. I just haven't had the time lately to prepare anything. I will > do an installation with a software modem, if we have internet, show how > to install LimeWire with Java (very cool) and even install a tv tuner > card, Bob Meyer really gets a kick out of those (they do rock!). If > people would like for me to do this at the next meeting, I will prepare, > please voice up people. If there's time, after the install. I'd like to have a shot at possibly answering some questions and demonstrating printer setups and a couple of other things. We could use the installed machine for this since it will be a totally clean machine so there will be no surprises. Cheers! Bob ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Mon May 20 09:45:20 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: adelphia cable on linux In-Reply-To: <20020518202419.88067.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020520134520.32292.qmail@web13307.mail.yahoo.com> There are a bunch of things to check. First, do a 'netstat -rn' and make sure that you have a default route (destintation 0.0.0.0) that points to adelphia's router (typicall 24.x.x.x). If that's there, make sure that you have the right things in /etc/resolv.conf. You need to put a nameserver or two in there. Adelphia usually gives you a couple to use in their literature. I would recommend finding others to use since Adelphia's break a lot. It should work after these two things are working. Cheers! Bob --- umar wrote: > Hi, > > This is a rather simple problem, but for some reason > can't figure it out. > > Just got adelphia cable. Works fine in windows, but > doesn't in linux (Mandrake 8.0). I get the IP address > from dhcp server and it shows up when i do ifconfig, > but none of my browsers work. Is there any other thing > I need to configure? Thanks. > > Umar > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil Mon May 20 11:12:34 2002 From: WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil (Wechter, Ron) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: Computers for Sale Message-ID: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F1@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil>

Everyone,

Sincerely,

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

From dadneumann at adelphia.net Mon May 20 12:40:30 2002 From: dadneumann at adelphia.net (Gregory J. Neumann) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: connection sharing issues In-Reply-To: <20020520013043.15471.qmail@web11301.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <009d01c2001d$0ea59760$1002a8c0@fatty> Are you using a "private" network for the XP boxes? I've found that sharing Adelphia is best when assigning local addresses for the LAN, rather than DHCP. It just seems to work better. I used FREESCO and SmoothWall GPL, so I'm not at all sure what Mandrake firewall would be doing. Be aware that no matter what the docs may say, there are grave security risks running a firewall as a service on a "production" work station! You'd be much better off grabbing one of Ron's P-II's and setting up a dedicated firewall ... Linux of course! -Greg -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of umar Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 21:31 To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: connection sharing issues Hi again, Well, the cable connection is now working. Just made the entry for namservers and all set. Now another problem I am having is that I want to share my connection with my roommates (they use XP). I run the internet connection sharing wizard (in Mandrake Control Center) and it says it's running. Now I am getting ip address in client computer but they can't browse any website. I tried to ping some websites and the URL seems to resolve but I am not getting any ping replies. Seems like my computer is blocking their requests. I disabled the firewall and reduced the security level to minimum, but that didn't solve the problem. Now get me out of this situation. Thanks. Umar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Mon May 20 12:54:37 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: Computers for Sale References: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F1@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <002401c2001f$0daca680$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Wechter, Ron

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 11:12 AM

Subject: Computers for Sale

Everyone,

I have about 5 Intel PII 333Mhz with 64MB RAM, Maxtor ATA100 PCI card, BCM mainboard (includes onboard graphics/USB/Sound etc), 10/100 network cards (SMC or 3Com) computers I am looking to get rid of. Only 1 main issue - They have NO hard drives -- They work PERFECTLY and have been recently taken out of service from one of my contracts. Im not looking to make a killing but make enough to upgrade my linux machine at home (Which means Ill also swap hardware for hardware).

Sincerely,

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

I might be interested in one how much are you asking?

Ron:)

From umar99 at yahoo.com Mon May 20 13:21:33 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: Computers for Sale In-Reply-To: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F1@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <20020520172133.83669.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> how much for one? --- "Wechter, Ron" wrote: > Everyone, > > I have about 5 Intel PII 333Mhz with 64MB RAM, > Maxtor ATA100 PCI card, BCM > mainboard (includes onboard graphics/USB/Sound etc), > 10/100 network cards > (SMC or 3Com) computers I am looking to get rid of. > Only 1 main issue - > They have NO hard drives -- They work PERFECTLY and > have been recently taken > out of service from one of my contracts. Im not > looking to make a killing > but make enough to upgrade my linux machine at home > (Which means Ill also > swap hardware for hardware). > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Ronald K. Wechter > NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From umar99 at yahoo.com Mon May 20 13:24:49 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: Computers for Sale In-Reply-To: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F1@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <20020520172449.3857.qmail@web11304.mail.yahoo.com> also, i hope they do have floppy drives. --- "Wechter, Ron" wrote: > Everyone, > > I have about 5 Intel PII 333Mhz with 64MB RAM, > Maxtor ATA100 PCI card, BCM > mainboard (includes onboard graphics/USB/Sound etc), > 10/100 network cards > (SMC or 3Com) computers I am looking to get rid of. > Only 1 main issue - > They have NO hard drives -- They work PERFECTLY and > have been recently taken > out of service from one of my contracts. Im not > looking to make a killing > but make enough to upgrade my linux machine at home > (Which means Ill also > swap hardware for hardware). > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Ronald K. Wechter > NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Mon May 20 13:27:28 2002 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: Computers for Sale In-Reply-To: <20020520172449.3857.qmail@web11304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hmmm..... 333Mhz is just fast enough to run Quake3 on. Me thinks I might have found a new use for my Voodoo3 >:) -Rob > also, i hope they do have floppy drives. > > > --- "Wechter, Ron" wrote: > > Everyone, > > > > I have about 5 Intel PII 333Mhz with 64MB RAM, > > Maxtor ATA100 PCI card, BCM > > mainboard (includes onboard graphics/USB/Sound etc), > > 10/100 network cards > > (SMC or 3Com) computers I am looking to get rid of. > > Only 1 main issue - > > They have NO hard drives -- They work PERFECTLY and > > have been recently taken > > out of service from one of my contracts. Im not > > looking to make a killing > > but make enough to upgrade my linux machine at home > > (Which means Ill also > > swap hardware for hardware). > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > Ronald K. Wechter > > NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator > > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > > (716) 551-4901 > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > Dege So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny .... If They Weren't Happening To Me From linux at snowbeam.dyndns.org Mon May 20 12:52:23 2002 From: linux at snowbeam.dyndns.org ([Darth] Snowbeam) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: Computers for Sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: mmmm, I need a test machine. As has been asked, how much? FreeBSD and Xp can now be tested :) On Mon, 20 May 2002, Robert Dege wrote: > > > Hmmm..... 333Mhz is just fast enough to run Quake3 on. Me thinks I might > have found a new use for my Voodoo3 >:) > > -Rob > > > also, i hope they do have floppy drives. > > > > > > --- "Wechter, Ron" wrote: > > > Everyone, > > > > > > I have about 5 Intel PII 333Mhz with 64MB RAM, > > > Maxtor ATA100 PCI card, BCM > > > mainboard (includes onboard graphics/USB/Sound etc), > > > 10/100 network cards > > > (SMC or 3Com) computers I am looking to get rid of. > > > Only 1 main issue - > > > They have NO hard drives -- They work PERFECTLY and > > > have been recently taken > > > out of service from one of my contracts. Im not > > > looking to make a killing > > > but make enough to upgrade my linux machine at home > > > (Which means Ill also > > > swap hardware for hardware). > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ronald K. Wechter > > > NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator > > > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > > > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > > > (716) 551-4901 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > > http://launch.yahoo.com > > > > > > Dege > > So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny > .... If They Weren't Happening To Me > -- --------- - [Darth] Snowbeam "It is not fear that keeps the elephant wary of the mouse, it is his wisdom that reminds him not to underestimate his opponent" -me From WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil Mon May 20 14:27:28 2002 From: WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil (Wechter, Ron) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: FW: Video Capturing Message-ID: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F6@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil>

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

From WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil Mon May 20 14:25:53 2002 From: WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil (Wechter, Ron) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: Puters for sale Message-ID: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F4@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil>

Everyone,

WOW - did not think I would get the response I did. I will get more info on these machines now that I see lots o peeps are interested.

These machines "will" be a challenge. I will, knowing that all Nflug members are interested, hold on to the exclusively for the NFlug and bring them to the next meeting.

Remember that I WILL take hardware trades - I need hardware more than I need the money - In fact it is getting hard to find older system parts now :(

IMPORTANT - EVERYONE email me at niterav@adelphia.net on questions - Im moving on to a new job this week! WOOHOO!

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

From shipdadip at adelphia.net Mon May 20 14:41:20 2002 From: shipdadip at adelphia.net (shipdadip) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: Puters for sale In-Reply-To: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F4@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID:

I want one too!!

From shipdadip at adelphia.net Mon May 20 14:43:00 2002 From: shipdadip at adelphia.net (shipdadip) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: Computers for Sale In-Reply-To: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F1@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID:

what are you looking for interms of hardware?

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Wechter, Ron
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 11:13 AM
To: nflug@nflug.org
Subject: Computers for Sale

Everyone,

I have about 5 Intel PII 333Mhz with 64MB RAM, Maxtor ATA100 PCI card, BCM mainboard (includes onboard graphics/USB/Sound etc), 10/100 network cards (SMC or 3Com) computers I am looking to get rid of. Only 1 main issue - They have NO hard drives -- They work PERFECTLY and have been recently taken out of service from one of my contracts. Im not looking to make a killing but make enough to upgrade my linux machine at home (Which means Ill also swap hardware for hardware).

Sincerely,

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Mon May 20 14:55:36 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: Puters for sale References: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F4@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <000d01c2002f$ee7c9480$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Wechter, Ron

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 2:25 PM

Subject: Puters for sale

Everyone,

WOW - did not think I would get the response I did. I will get more info on these machines now that I see lots o peeps are interested.

Here are some answers for some of the questions - They ALL have floppy drives/They are ALL ATX setups/ ALL have power supplies (not sure on the wattage) / ALL are BCM mainboards (not docmentation on exactly what type of mainboards they are but I know BCM only has 2 or 3 PII mainboards.

Knowing that with linux you need to know ALL hardware info in order to have a flawless setup I will do what I can do get the numbers. These were older CompUSA machines (so if anyone worked there before they may know more than what I do) and CompUSA has no way of looking up the serials numbers (already tried that).

These machines "will" be a challenge. I will, knowing that all Nflug members are interested, hold on to the exclusively for the NFlug and bring them to the next meeting.

Remember that I WILL take hardware trades - I need hardware more than I need the money - In fact it is getting hard to find older system parts now :(

IMPORTANT - EVERYONE email me at niterav@adelphia.net on questions - Im moving on to a new job this week! WOOHOO!

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

What do you need as far as parts go and we'll see if we can trade.

If not e-mail me as to how much you want for one box.

I could use a router box soon. i most likely have everything I need to set one up right now!

except the box it self.

havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

Ron

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Mon May 20 15:04:39 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: Puters for sale References: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F4@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <002601c20031$32a0ed40$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Wechter, Ron

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 2:25 PM

Subject: Puters for sale

Everyone,

WOW - did not think I would get the response I did. I will get more info on these machines now that I see lots o peeps are interested.

Here are some answers for some of the questions - They ALL have floppy drives/They are ALL ATX setups/ ALL have power supplies (not sure on the wattage) / ALL are BCM mainboards (not docmentation on exactly what type of mainboards they are but I know BCM only has 2 or 3 PII mainboards.

Knowing that with linux you need to know ALL hardware info in order to have a flawless setup I will do what I can do get the numbers. These were older CompUSA machines (so if anyone worked there before they may know more than what I do) and CompUSA has no way of looking up the serials numbers (already tried that).

These machines "will" be a challenge. I will, knowing that all Nflug members are interested, hold on to the exclusively for the NFlug and bring them to the next meeting.

Remember that I WILL take hardware trades - I need hardware more than I need the money - In fact it is getting hard to find older system parts now :(

IMPORTANT - EVERYONE email me at niterav@adelphia.net on questions - Im moving on to a new job this week! WOOHOO!

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

Well you might have to auction them off at the next meeting dude so many of us are interested in them. And speaking of an auction how's about NFLUG doing a sell your junk sale somewhere or start up some kind of trading post here on the list for people who have a buy or sell list to offer other members. Just a thought? Also we can advertise somehow or someway to the public as to somewhere to sell or trade your stuff since legacy equipment is getting as hard to find as a hen's teeth.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From peter at thecybersource.com Mon May 20 15:11:40 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: printing in an NT Server enviro Message-ID: <1021921900.15520.15.camel@Office> Hello all,
I have a Mandrake 8.2 box that I drop into an NT Server office that Netbui protocol for printing. The server does have an address of 101.101.10.50/255.255.0.0. The have a WINS server address of 101.101.10.1. From the Linux box I can ping the WINS server address but not the machine's address (.50). From the NT box, I can ping my Linux box. What needs to be done to print through this server to a printer on the network? I remember reading on here before about this but forgot. I believe you have to authenticate somehow right? All thoughts and ideas are GREATLY appreciated. I've got my foot in the door with Linux but hardly a good sell when you can't print. Thanks

From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Mon May 20 16:01:40 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: printing in an NT Server enviro In-Reply-To: <1021921900.15520.15.camel@Office> Message-ID: <20020520200140.67788.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Well, if you want to print from Linux to the WinNT printer, go into 'kups' or under Configuration->Printing->CUPS WWW Admin Tool and configure a printer for SMB. You will get a place to enter username and password information in either of them. If NT has enabled guest access, you won't need to login to the domain to print. If you don't have guest access, uncheck the 'Guest Account' button and put in a username and password. The next screen will allow you to set the domain, server, printer name. Put in the printer type and all should be well. I've done this with several different config tools and they all work. Hope this helps... Cheers! Bob' --- Cyber Source wrote: > Hello all, > I have a Mandrake 8.2 box that I drop into an NT Server office that > Netbui protocol for printing. The server does have an address of > 101.101.10.50/255.255.0.0. The have a WINS server address of > 101.101.10.1. From the Linux box I can ping the WINS server address but > not the machine's address (.50). From the NT box, I can ping my Linux > box. What needs to be done to print through this server to a printer on > the network? I remember reading on here before about this but forgot. I > believe you have to authenticate somehow right? All thoughts and ideas > are GREATLY appreciated. I've got my foot in the door with Linux but > hardly a good sell when you can't print. Thanks > > > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil Mon May 20 16:04:44 2002 From: WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil (Wechter, Ron) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: FW: Puters 4 Sale Message-ID: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F8@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil>

http://sherman2k.buffnet.net/IN440EXD/IN_440EXD_Documentation.pdf

Sincerely,

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

From umar99 at yahoo.com Mon May 20 16:23:17 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: connection sharing issues Message-ID: <20020520202317.48597.qmail@web11307.mail.yahoo.com> seems like it was burried under "computers for sale" extravaganza. But I need to find a solution to this problem. Right now I am running the NAT server on Win98 and I want to get back to linux ASAP (can't stand the sight of windows I guess). So this is high priority. Thanks again. Umar --- umar wrote: > From umar Sun May 19 18:30:43 2002 > Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 18:30:43 -0700 (PDT) > From: umar > Subject: connection sharing issues > To: nflug@nflug.org > Reply-to: nflug@nflug.org > > Hi again, > > Well, the cable connection is now working. Just made > the entry for namservers and all set. Now another > problem I am having is that I want to share my > connection with my roommates (they use XP). I run > the > internet connection sharing wizard (in Mandrake > Control Center) and it says it's running. Now I am > getting ip address in client computer but they can't > browse any website. I tried to ping some websites > and > the URL seems to resolve but I am not getting any > ping > replies. Seems like my computer is blocking their > requests. I disabled the firewall and reduced the > security level to minimum, but that didn't solve the > problem. Now get me out of this situation. Thanks. > > Umar > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From peter at thecybersource.com Mon May 20 16:47:06 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: printing in an NT Server enviro In-Reply-To: <20020520200140.67788.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020520200140.67788.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1021927626.15636.5.camel@Office> Thanks Bob, I'm getting errors when I tried to run kups. I think something happened when I added KDE3. The system controls are giving me errors.
On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 16:01, Robert Meyer wrote:

Well, if you want to print from Linux to the WinNT printer, go into 'kups'
or under Configuration->Printing->CUPS WWW Admin Tool and
configure a printer for SMB.  You will get a place to enter username and
password information in either of them.  If NT has enabled guest access,
you won't need to login to the domain to print.  If you don't have guest
access, uncheck the 'Guest Account' button and put in a username and
password.  The next screen will allow you to set the domain, server, printer
name.  Put in the printer type and all should be well.  I've done this with
several different config tools and they all work.

Hope this helps...

Cheers!

Bob'
--- Cyber Source <peter@thecybersource.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>   I have a Mandrake 8.2 box that I drop into an NT Server office that
> Netbui protocol for printing. The server does have an address of
> 101.101.10.50/255.255.0.0. The have a WINS server address of
> 101.101.10.1. From the Linux box I can ping the WINS server address but
> not the machine's address (.50). From the NT box, I can ping my Linux
> box. What needs to be done to print through this server to a printer on
> the network? I remember reading on here before about this but forgot. I
> believe you have to authenticate somehow right? All thoughts and ideas
> are GREATLY appreciated. I've got my foot in the door with Linux but
> hardly a good sell when you can't print. Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> 

=====
Bob Meyer
Knightwing Communications, Inc.
36 Cayuga Blvd
Depew, NY 14043
Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076
Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience

http://launch.yahoo.com

From peter at thecybersource.com Mon May 20 16:49:44 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: Puters for sale In-Reply-To: <002601c20031$32a0ed40$f43afea9@celeronbox> References: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F4@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> <002601c20031$32a0ed40$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <1021927784.15625.7.camel@Office> If anyone is ever looking for legacy stuff, let me know, I've got boxes of it.
On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 15:04, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Wechter, Ron
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 2:25 PM
Subject: Puters for sale

Everyone,

WOW - did not think I would get the response I did. I will get more info on these machines now that I see lots o peeps are interested.

Here are some answers for some of the questions - They ALL have floppy drives/They are ALL ATX setups/ ALL have power supplies (not sure on the wattage) / ALL are BCM mainboards (not docmentation on exactly what type of mainboards they are but I know BCM only has 2 or 3 PII mainboards.

Knowing that with linux you need to know ALL hardware info in order to have a flawless setup I will do what I can do get the numbers. These were older CompUSA machines (so if anyone worked there before they may know more than what I do) and CompUSA has no way of looking up the serials numbers (already tried that).

These machines "will" be a challenge. I will, knowing that all Nflug members are interested, hold on to the exclusively for the NFlug and bring them to the next meeting.

Remember that I WILL take hardware trades - I need hardware more than I need the money - In fact it is getting hard to find older system parts now :(

IMPORTANT - EVERYONE email me at niterav@adelphia.net on questions - Im moving on to a new job this week! WOOHOO!

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

Well you might have to auction them off at the next meeting dude so many of us are interested in them. And speaking of an auction how's about NFLUG doing a sell your junk sale somewhere or start up some kind of trading post here on the list for people who have a buy or sell list to offer other members. Just a thought? Also we can advertise somehow or someway to the public as to somewhere to sell or trade your stuff since legacy equipment is getting as hard to find as a hen's teeth.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Mon May 20 19:55:46 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: Puters for sale References: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F4@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> <002601c20031$32a0ed40$f43afea9@celeronbox> <1021927784.15625.7.camel@Office> Message-ID: <001501c20059$dcab5320$f43afea9@celeronbox>

----- Original Message -----

From: Cyber Source

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:49 PM

Subject: Re: Puters for sale

If anyone is ever looking for legacy stuff, let me know, I've got boxes of it.

Do you have any 50 pin scsi drives any size full form is ok also as well. I'm also looking for a drive tower for them? How's about KVM unites even if manual! ps/2 or dimm? Also looking for scsi active terminals for 50 pin connectors. I'm trying to get my DEC Alpha 233Mhz up but can also try to get the other 166Mhz unit up as well. My need for a KVM! or two of em, I have two other systems you see. This is my wish list.

Ron

On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 15:04, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Wechter, Ron
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 2:25 PM
Subject: Puters for sale

Everyone,

WOW - did not think I would get the response I did. I will get more info on these machines now that I see lots o peeps are interested.

Here are some answers for some of the questions - They ALL have floppy drives/They are ALL ATX setups/ ALL have power supplies (not sure on the wattage) / ALL are BCM mainboards (not docmentation on exactly what type of mainboards they are but I know BCM only has 2 or 3 PII mainboards.

Knowing that with linux you need to know ALL hardware info in order to have a flawless setup I will do what I can do get the numbers. These were older CompUSA machines (so if anyone worked there before they may know more than what I do) and CompUSA has no way of looking up the serials numbers (already tried that).

These machines "will" be a challenge. I will, knowing that all Nflug members are interested, hold on to the exclusively for the NFlug and bring them to the next meeting.

Remember that I WILL take hardware trades - I need hardware more than I need the money - In fact it is getting hard to find older system parts now :(

IMPORTANT - EVERYONE email me at niterav@adelphia.net on questions - Im moving on to a new job this week! WOOHOO!

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

Well you might have to auction them off at the next meeting dude so many of us are interested in them. And speaking of an auction how's about NFLUG doing a sell your junk sale somewhere or start up some kind of trading post here on the list for people who have a buy or sell list to offer other members. Just a thought? Also we can advertise somehow or someway to the public as to somewhere to sell or trade your stuff since legacy equipment is getting as hard to find as a hen's teeth.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From peter at thecybersource.com Mon May 20 21:51:38 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: Puters for sale In-Reply-To: <001501c20059$dcab5320$f43afea9@celeronbox> References: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F4@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> <002601c20031$32a0ed40$f43afea9@celeronbox> <1021927784.15625.7.camel@Office> <001501c20059$dcab5320$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <1021945902.2366.10.camel@Office> >From last memory, I may have the following:
1 or 2 kvm's
not much scsi stuff, couple cables, maybe a terminator or 2 (50pin)
have alot of old cases, mostly AT or proprietary atx (packard hell, compaq)
Have tons of old video cards (even that crazy period of vesa local bus), sound cards, modems, nics, ide drives, 30pin simms (all 1mb i believe)
socket 7, 486, 386, 8088 mb's
One of these days, after I'm done with my house, I will take the time to inventory all the old stuff,
also, have tons of at switching power supplys, switched power supplies (pads)
If you really need something, send me an email and I will dig it out if I got it
On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 19:55, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: Puters for sale

If anyone is ever looking for legacy stuff, let me know, I've got boxes of it.

Do you have any 50 pin scsi drives any size full form is ok also as well. I'm also looking for a drive tower for them? How's about KVM unites even if manual! ps/2 or dimm? Also looking for scsi active terminals for 50 pin connectors. I'm trying to get my DEC Alpha 233Mhz up but can also try to get the other 166Mhz unit up as well. My need for a KVM! or two of em, I have two other systems you see. This is my wish list.

Ron

On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 15:04, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Wechter, Ron
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 2:25 PM
Subject: Puters for sale

Everyone,

WOW - did not think I would get the response I did. I will get more info on these machines now that I see lots o peeps are interested.

Here are some answers for some of the questions - They ALL have floppy drives/They are ALL ATX setups/ ALL have power supplies (not sure on the wattage) / ALL are BCM mainboards (not docmentation on exactly what type of mainboards they are but I know BCM only has 2 or 3 PII mainboards.

Knowing that with linux you need to know ALL hardware info in order to have a flawless setup I will do what I can do get the numbers. These were older CompUSA machines (so if anyone worked there before they may know more than what I do) and CompUSA has no way of looking up the serials numbers (already tried that).

These machines "will" be a challenge. I will, knowing that all Nflug members are interested, hold on to the exclusively for the NFlug and bring them to the next meeting.

Remember that I WILL take hardware trades - I need hardware more than I need the money - In fact it is getting hard to find older system parts now :(

IMPORTANT - EVERYONE email me at niterav@adelphia.net on questions - Im moving on to a new job this week! WOOHOO!

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

Well you might have to auction them off at the next meeting dude so many of us are interested in them. And speaking of an auction how's about NFLUG doing a sell your junk sale somewhere or start up some kind of trading post here on the list for people who have a buy or sell list to offer other members. Just a thought? Also we can advertise somehow or someway to the public as to somewhere to sell or trade your stuff since legacy equipment is getting as hard to find as a hen's teeth.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Tue May 21 06:21:04 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: Puters for sale References: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F4@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil><002601c20031$32a0ed40$f43afea9@celeronbox><1021927784.15625.7.camel@Office> <001501c20059$dcab5320$f43afea9@celeronbox> <1021945902.2366.10.camel@Office> Message-ID: <000d01c200b1$37c209f0$da00590c@hswtcrs689918u>

----- Original Message -----

From: Cyber Source

To: nflug@nflug.org

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:51 PM

Subject: Re: Puters for sale

From last memory, I may have the following:
1 or 2 kvm's
not much scsi stuff, couple cables, maybe a terminator or 2 (50pin)
have alot of old cases, mostly AT or proprietary atx (packard hell, compaq)
Have tons of old video cards (even that crazy period of vesa local bus), sound cards, modems, nics, ide drives, 30pin simms (all 1mb i believe)
socket 7, 486, 386, 8088 mb's
One of these days, after I'm done with my house, I will take the time to inventory all the old stuff,
also, have tons of at switching power supplys, switched power supplies (pads)
If you really need something, send me an email and I will dig it out if I got it

Well the KVM on or both if you don't need them. Also do they work? I could also use 1 scsi active 50 pin terminator would help let me know what you want for them.

Ron:)

On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 19:55, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyber Source
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: Puters for sale

If anyone is ever looking for legacy stuff, let me know, I've got boxes of it.

Do you have any 50 pin scsi drives any size full form is ok also as well. I'm also looking for a drive tower for them? How's about KVM unites even if manual! ps/2 or dimm? Also looking for scsi active terminals for 50 pin connectors. I'm trying to get my DEC Alpha 233Mhz up but can also try to get the other 166Mhz unit up as well. My need for a KVM! or two of em, I have two other systems you see. This is my wish list.

Ron

On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 15:04, Ronald Maggio wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Wechter, Ron
To: nflug@nflug.org
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 2:25 PM
Subject: Puters for sale

Everyone,

WOW - did not think I would get the response I did. I will get more info on these machines now that I see lots o peeps are interested.

Here are some answers for some of the questions - They ALL have floppy drives/They are ALL ATX setups/ ALL have power supplies (not sure on the wattage) / ALL are BCM mainboards (not docmentation on exactly what type of mainboards they are but I know BCM only has 2 or 3 PII mainboards.

Knowing that with linux you need to know ALL hardware info in order to have a flawless setup I will do what I can do get the numbers. These were older CompUSA machines (so if anyone worked there before they may know more than what I do) and CompUSA has no way of looking up the serials numbers (already tried that).

These machines "will" be a challenge. I will, knowing that all Nflug members are interested, hold on to the exclusively for the NFlug and bring them to the next meeting.

Remember that I WILL take hardware trades - I need hardware more than I need the money - In fact it is getting hard to find older system parts now :(

IMPORTANT - EVERYONE email me at niterav@adelphia.net on questions - Im moving on to a new job this week! WOOHOO!

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

Well you might have to auction them off at the next meeting dude so many of us are interested in them. And speaking of an auction how's about NFLUG doing a sell your junk sale somewhere or start up some kind of trading post here on the list for people who have a buy or sell list to offer other members. Just a thought? Also we can advertise somehow or someway to the public as to somewhere to sell or trade your stuff since legacy equipment is getting as hard to find as a hen's teeth.

Ron Maggio
Have Screwdriver Will Travel
Computer Repair Service
P.O. BOX 186
Spring Brook, NY. 14140-0186
Phone: (716) 677-5909
havescrewdriverwilltravel@worldnet.att.net

From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Tue May 21 08:24:56 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: printing in an NT Server enviro In-Reply-To: <1021927626.15636.5.camel@Office> Message-ID: <20020521122456.10452.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> --- Cyber Source wrote: > Thanks Bob, I'm getting errors when I tried to run kups. I think > something happened when I added KDE3. The system controls are giving me > errors. I get errors, too but it doesn't seem to affect the operation of the program (didn't try to save changes, though). Does your kups start up and give you a window? If you can't get that to work, use the web base printer admin tool. It should have all of the same functionality, just in a different format. Cheers! Bob ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From peter at thecybersource.com Tue May 21 08:54:10 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: printing in an NT Server enviro In-Reply-To: <20020521122456.10452.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020521122456.10452.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1021985650.5063.7.camel@Office> I couldn't connect to the www cups admin tool. I am going to bring the system back here and redo it without doing the kde3 update (i'm not good enough to hack through this yet). I am also going to bring back there server here because they want me to clean it out, etc., so I can experiment with it here in the shop. As on my office computer, I have no kups at all, even did a locate for it and only found 1 file in the kde3 folder. I also did a search using the software mangler and could not find it installed or not installed and even have the mandrake update site in my sources, I'm sure there must be some very logical explanation for that one, but it's got me stumped.
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 08:24, Robert Meyer wrote:

--- Cyber Source <peter@thecybersource.com> wrote:
> Thanks Bob, I'm getting errors when I tried to run kups. I think
> something happened when I added KDE3. The system controls are giving me
> errors.

I get errors, too but it doesn't seem to affect the operation of the program
(didn't
try to save changes, though).  Does your kups start up and give you a window?

If you can't get that to work, use the web base printer admin tool.  It should
have
all of the same functionality, just in a different format.

Cheers!

Bob

=====
Bob Meyer
Knightwing Communications, Inc.
36 Cayuga Blvd
Depew, NY 14043
Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076
Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience

http://launch.yahoo.com

From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Tue May 21 09:20:16 2002 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: FW: Video Capturing In-Reply-To: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8F6@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: This is one of my future pet projects. I don't recall coming across any SCSI requirements when investigating Video capture, but that may be more on the VCD end since it includes CD-burning. The linux kernel is capable of taking an IDE device (ie: CD-Burner) & emulating it as a SCSI device so that the cdrecording utils can use it. That's how I have it setup at home right now, and it works without any known flaws. -Rob > Has anyone ever captured Video (VCR tapes) and put them to VCD format in > Linux. So far all of the Windows capture cards/software need SCSI and my > linux server is the ONLY system at my house that has SCSI. Also I think the > performance would be superior than Windowds :) > > > > > Ronald K. Wechter > NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > Dege So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny .... If They Weren't Happening To Me From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Tue May 21 09:54:35 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: printing in an NT Server enviro In-Reply-To: <1021985650.5063.7.camel@Office> Message-ID: <20020521135435.14724.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> --- Cyber Source wrote: > I couldn't connect to the www cups admin tool. I am going to bring the > system back here and redo it without doing the kde3 update (i'm not good > enough to hack through this yet). I am also going to bring back there > server here because they want me to clean it out, etc., so I can > experiment with it here in the shop. As on my office computer, I have no > kups at all, even did a locate for it and only found 1 file in the kde3 > folder. I also did a search using the software mangler and could not > find it installed or not installed and even have the mandrake update > site in my sources, I'm sure there must be some very logical explanation > for that one, but it's got me stumped. > On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 08:24, Robert Meyer wrote: It's starting to look to me like you don't have cups installed or running. It is supposed to listen on port 631 on localhost for connections from a browser. Look for /etc/cups and see if you have the config files. Also, make sure that you have cups enabled as a server in the current init level. It has nothing to do with KDE. I'm not sure how the system was installed but if you don't define a printer on the install, it may not install cups. I know that the cups drivers don't get installed until you define a printer. Give that a check before rebuilding the box. Besides, I've found that when you just rebuild a box that's not doing what you want, you lose the opportunity to learn why it wasn't right. I relish the learning experience when something whacks out and I have to figger out what happened. There are actually very few occasions that require a reinstall of the O/S in Linux. In fact, there are very few reasons to actually reboot a Linux system. Cheers! Bob ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From peter at thecybersource.com Tue May 21 10:21:29 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: printing in an NT Server enviro In-Reply-To: <20020521135435.14724.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020521135435.14724.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1021990889.5062.45.camel@Office> Thanks Bob. I too would rather figure it out but time is not on my side. The reason I really wanted to redo things without kde3 is that something happens where say changing system configs in the control panel give errors and don't take affect. I believe the problem is with PATH but would rather first find out what the system looks at to boot a particular GUI and where the files may be. After doing the kde3 update I saw that it said it was important to add (i believe) /opt/kde3/bin to the path, that's why the other day I was asking about permanent additions to the path. Gotta run....to be continued..........
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 09:54, Robert Meyer wrote:

--- Cyber Source <peter@thecybersource.com> wrote:
> I couldn't connect to the www cups admin tool. I am going to bring the
> system back here and redo it without doing the kde3 update (i'm not good
> enough to hack through this yet). I am also going to bring back there
> server here because they want me to clean it out, etc., so I can
> experiment with it here in the shop. As on my office computer, I have no
> kups at all, even did a locate for it and only found 1 file in the kde3
> folder. I also did a search using the software mangler and could not
> find it installed or not installed and even have the mandrake update
> site in my sources, I'm sure there must be some very logical explanation
> for that one, but it's got me stumped.
> On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 08:24, Robert Meyer wrote:

It's starting to look to me like you don't have cups installed or running.
It is supposed to listen on port 631 on localhost for connections from a
browser.
Look for /etc/cups and see if you have the config files.  Also, make sure that
you have cups enabled as a server in the current init level.  It has nothing
to do with KDE.

I'm not sure how the system was installed but if you don't define a printer
on the install, it may not install cups.  I know that the cups drivers
don't get installed until you define a printer.

Give that a check before rebuilding the box.  Besides, I've found that when
you just rebuild a box that's not doing what you want, you lose the
opportunity to learn why it wasn't right.  I relish the learning experience
when something whacks out and I have to figger out what happened.
There are actually very few occasions that require a reinstall of the O/S
in Linux.  In fact, there are very few reasons to actually reboot a Linux
system.

Cheers!

Bob

=====
Bob Meyer
Knightwing Communications, Inc.
36 Cayuga Blvd
Depew, NY 14043
Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076
Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience

http://launch.yahoo.com

From todd at phyberoptiks.net Tue May 21 10:51:29 2002 From: todd at phyberoptiks.net (Todd Wirth) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: FW: Video Capturing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000401c200d6$fd8fb450$02fea8c0@pepsi> I deleted the original message, and my reply may not do you any good but... You can download RealProducer Basic (free version) for Linux and encode video into RealVideo files (also add the server to stream content). Here's a link just in case you're interested. I have, and still use this (although in Windoze enviroment) for some of my video feeds at work. Our slowest 'live' video server is a AMD K6-2 500mhz w/ 256mb and IDE runs 24/7. http://www.realnetworks.com/products/producer/basic.html -- Todd -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of Robert Dege Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 9:20 AM To: 'nflug@nflug.org' Subject: Re: FW: Video Capturing This is one of my future pet projects. I don't recall coming across any SCSI requirements when investigating Video capture, but that may be more on the VCD end since it includes CD-burning. The linux kernel is capable of taking an IDE device (ie: CD-Burner) & emulating it as a SCSI device so that the cdrecording utils can use it. That's how I have it setup at home right now, and it works without any known flaws. -Rob > Has anyone ever captured Video (VCR tapes) and put them to VCD format in > Linux. So far all of the Windows capture cards/software need SCSI and my > linux server is the ONLY system at my house that has SCSI. Also I think the > performance would be superior than Windowds :) > > > > > Ronald K. Wechter > NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > Dege So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny .... If They Weren't Happening To Me From WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil Tue May 21 14:22:05 2002 From: WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil (Wechter, Ron) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:53 2007 Subject: JOB POSTING Message-ID: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8FC@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil>

TO ANY INTERESTED PERSONS:

There is a Network Administrator/Assistant Systems Administration position currently open. The ideal candidate is one that has:

Basic networking knowledge (hubs, switches, Cable/DSL routers)
Experience installing/configuring/troubleshooting Windows NT 4.0, Windows 98, Windows 2000 in a Server Client Environment
Basic knowledge of laptops (PCMCIA, dongles, etc)
PC Hardware Knowledge (Are you comfortable with replacing parts within a PC?)
Does not mind documenting everything that you do and does not mind doing basic hardware inventory as machines come and go within the District.
Some travel (Furthest I've been was Albany) across NY State
Good communication and Phone skills (The better the phone skills that you have with troubleshooting problems the less you travel!)
...and you are comfortable working in a Military environment

IF INTERESTED call Winkie Hayes at 716-551-4998 Ext. 20 or email your cover letter and resume to hayesw@cnrc.navy.mil .

Sincerely,

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

From WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil Tue May 21 14:25:34 2002 From: WechterR at cnrc.navy.mil (Wechter, Ron) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: JOB POSTING - UPDATED!!! Message-ID: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8FD@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil>

TO ANY INTERESTED PERSONS:

There is a Network Administrator/Assistant Systems Administration position currently open. The ideal candidate is one that has:

Web developement
Basic networking knowledge (hubs, switches, Cable/DSL routers)
Experience installing/configuring/troubleshooting Windows NT 4.0, Windows 98, Windows 2000 in a Server Client Environment
Basic knowledge of laptops (PCMCIA, dongles, etc)
PC Hardware Knowledge (Are you comfortable with replacing parts within a PC?)
Does not mind documenting everything that you do and does not mind doing basic hardware inventory as machines come and go within the District.
Some travel (Furthest I've been was Albany) across NY State
Good communication and Phone skills (The better the phone skills that you have with troubleshooting problems the less you travel!)
...and you are comfortable working in a Military environment

IF INTERESTED call Winkie Hayes at 716-551-4998 Ext. 21 or email your cover letter and resume to hayesw@cnrc.navy.mil .

Sincerely,

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

From peter at thecybersource.com Tue May 21 15:05:25 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: JOB POSTING In-Reply-To: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8FC@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> References: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8FC@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <1022007925.5391.5.camel@Office> I might be interested, depending on the hours required. I am a Navy Vet, used to work down there before I got discharged, circa 1979. I will read this later. Thanks,
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 14:22, Wechter, Ron wrote:

TO ANY INTERESTED PERSONS:

There is a Network Administrator/Assistant Systems Administration position currently open. The ideal candidate is one that has:

Basic networking knowledge (hubs, switches, Cable/DSL routers)

Experience installing/configuring/troubleshooting Windows NT 4.0, Windows 98, Windows 2000 in a Server Client Environment

Basic knowledge of laptops (PCMCIA, dongles, etc)

PC Hardware Knowledge (Are you comfortable with replacing parts within a PC?)

Does not mind documenting everything that you do and does not mind doing basic hardware inventory as machines come and go within the District.

Some travel (Furthest I've been was Albany) across NY State

Good communication and Phone skills (The better the phone skills that you have with troubleshooting problems the less you travel!)

...and you are comfortable working in a Military environment

I have had lots of good times here and Navy Recruiting District (NRD) Buffalo is in dire need of a"tech". I can't talk about pay but it is very competitive! This job is contract which means you will be an "at will" employee and the contract renews annually.

IF INTERESTED call Winkie Hayes at 716-551-4998 Ext. 20 or email your cover letter and resume to hayesw@cnrc.navy.mil .

Sincerely,

Ronald K. Wechter
NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator
NRD Buffalo Webmaster
Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo
(716) 551-4901

From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Tue May 21 15:14:54 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: JOB POSTING - UPDATED!!! In-Reply-To: <8D9BAB3A3B2BD511AB4200508BF1CF6124E8FD@buffalo.cnrc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <20020521191454.83288.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com> Any chance of converting them over from the 'Dark Side' to OpenSource? :-) Considering that governments around the world are migrating that way, maybe the Navy would be 'forward thinking'... Maybe not... :-) Cheers! Bob --- "Wechter, Ron" wrote: > > TO ANY INTERESTED PERSONS: > > There is a Network Administrator/Assistant Systems Administration position > currently open. The ideal candidate is one that has: > > * Web developement > > * Basic networking knowledge (hubs, switches, Cable/DSL routers) > > * Experience installing/configuring/troubleshooting Windows NT 4.0, > Windows 98, Windows 2000 in a Server Client Environment > > * Basic knowledge of laptops (PCMCIA, dongles, etc) > > * PC Hardware Knowledge (Are you comfortable with replacing parts > within a PC?) > > * Does not mind documenting everything that you do and does not mind > doing basic hardware inventory as machines come and go within the District. > > * Some travel (Furthest I've been was Albany) across NY State > > * Good communication and Phone skills (The better the phone skills > that you have with troubleshooting problems the less you travel!) > > * ...and you are comfortable working in a Military environment > > I have had lots of good times here and Navy Recruiting District (NRD) > Buffalo is in dire need of a"tech". I can't talk about pay but it is very > competitive! This job is contract which means you will be an "at will" > employee and the contract renews annually. > > > IF INTERESTED call Winkie Hayes at 716-551-4998 Ext. 21 or email your cover > letter and resume to hayesw@cnrc.navy.mil . > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Ronald K. Wechter > NRD Buffalo Assistant Systems Administrator > NRD Buffalo Webmaster > Navy Recruiting Department Buffalo > (716) 551-4901 > > > ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From jlukasiewicz at yahoo.com Wed May 22 12:01:38 2002 From: jlukasiewicz at yahoo.com (Joseph Lukasiewicz) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... Message-ID: <20020522160138.87526.qmail@web14207.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I've been poking around and managed to scare up some resources that I think could assist me (us) in getting the Alpha 2100 up and running.

It seems the controller card for the Raid is a MYLEX DAC960... I have some info on it including what I believe to be drivers and possible "instructions"...

As you can tell, were starting to get a little beyond my level on this...Any ideas?

Joe Lukasiewicz

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LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Wed May 22 14:07:10 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... In-Reply-To: <20020522160138.87526.qmail@web14207.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020522180710.56876.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com> Well, most newer kernels in distributions don't need to be recompiled to support a 'standard' or well known device. A lot of the documentation for devices talk about building kernels, assuming that support isn't already there. I suspect that if you can get an install started, the RAID card will be recognized correctly. I just did an install of RedHat 7.2 on a brand new Compaq server with an integral RAID and it installed straight up, without any special handling, other than the Compaq utilities for initializing the array and installing Compaq Diagnostics. Probably should have the same situation with an Alpha processor distribution from one of the main vendors. Cheers! Bob --- Joseph Lukasiewicz wrote: > > Hi, > > I've been poking around and managed to scare up some resources that I think > could assist me (us) in getting the Alpha 2100 up and running. > > It seems the controller card for the Raid is a MYLEX DAC960... I have some > info on it including what I believe to be drivers and possible > "instructions"... > > Rather than just plop everything in the forum, I was wondering how to > proceed? I think the kernel will need to be rebuilt, or the drivers > recompiled, or the "recover" kernal made to some how recognize the drivers... > > As you can tell, were starting to get a little beyond my level on this...Any > ideas? > > Joe Lukasiewicz > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Wed May 22 16:02:41 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... References: <20020522180710.56876.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005001c201cb$a221d3f0$6b01590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Meyer" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > Well, most newer kernels in distributions don't need to be recompiled to > support a 'standard' or well known device. A lot of the documentation > for devices talk about building kernels, assuming that support isn't already > there. I suspect that if you can get an install started, the RAID card > will be recognized correctly. I just did an install of RedHat 7.2 <--------------------------snip-----------------------------------------> True from what I've read fo far, but I think that RedHat 7.1 should install the same way with the same drivers already available in RedHat. The only thing is that the latest version of RedHat for Alpha's is 7.1. I would recommend RedHat since it is the most use and well knowen for Alpha's. Now mind you there are a few others out there. Have you read any of the info I zipped out to you and the group about Alpha's? I sent web site links and seved web pages stock full of info on the subject, but I will admit its mostly on the model I own. I does pertain to the subject generally. I have it and as I said I'll make a copy of it for you unless your going to downloaded it yourself. I had someone else download it for my because I only have dialup service. It is four full cd's worth! It would have taken me well over a week to download it with dialup service. Well if I can be of anymore assistance let me know. Ron:) on a brand > new Compaq server with an integral RAID and it installed straight up, without > any special handling, other than the Compaq utilities for initializing the > array and installing Compaq Diagnostics. > > Probably should have the same situation with an Alpha processor > distribution from one of the main vendors. > > Cheers! > > Bob > --- Joseph Lukasiewicz wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I've been poking around and managed to scare up some resources that I think > > could assist me (us) in getting the Alpha 2100 up and running. > > > > It seems the controller card for the Raid is a MYLEX DAC960... I have some > > info on it including what I believe to be drivers and possible > > "instructions"... > > > > Rather than just plop everything in the forum, I was wondering how to > > proceed? I think the kernel will need to be rebuilt, or the drivers > > recompiled, or the "recover" kernal made to some how recognize the drivers... > > > > As you can tell, were starting to get a little beyond my level on this...Any > > ideas? > > > > Joe Lukasiewicz > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do You Yahoo!? > > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > > ===== > Bob Meyer > Knightwing Communications, Inc. > 36 Cayuga Blvd > Depew, NY 14043 > Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 > Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Wed May 22 15:49:53 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... References: <20020522160138.87526.qmail@web14207.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004a01c201c9$d863ab20$6b01590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Lukasiewicz To: Niagara Frontier Linux Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:01 PM Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... Hi, I've been poking around and managed to scare up some resources that I think could assist me (us) in getting the Alpha 2100 up and running. It seems the controller card for the Raid is a MYLEX DAC960... I have some info on it including what I believe to be drivers and possible "instructions"... Rather than just plop everything in the forum, I was wondering how to proceed? I think the kernel will need to be rebuilt, or the drivers recompiled, or the "recover" kernal made to some how recognize the drivers... As you can tell, were starting to get a little beyond my level on this...Any ideas? I wish I could help you but I need to see it in order to understand the in's and out's of it all! Ron Joe Lukasiewicz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020523/bc339c34/attachment-0001.html From todd at phyberoptiks.net Wed May 22 17:55:01 2002 From: todd at phyberoptiks.net (Todd Wirth) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... In-Reply-To: <20020522213635.859.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001201c201db$52b16be0$02fea8c0@pepsi> On the subject of RedHat kernel having default support for a every SCSI adapter I disagree. We have a Dell server running RedHat 7.2, although I wasn't involved in the upgrade to a newer kernel (Dell provided), I know what happened through various emails between Dell and our other IT guy. They tried 2 stock RedHat kernels that did not work with our SCSI adapter, until finally the 3rd one did the trick. I was about to take over the project and just compile a kernel, but that would have voided our support w/ Dell & RedHat. I'm not too sure about the hardware as this server (besides a Xeon) is in a remote office, but I did see the email traffic, and you could tell the Dell guys were stumped. ;) -- Todd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020523/f134f575/attachment-0001.html From jlukasiewicz at yahoo.com Wed May 22 17:36:35 2002 From: jlukasiewicz at yahoo.com (Joseph Lukasiewicz) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... In-Reply-To: <005001c201cb$a221d3f0$6b01590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> Message-ID: <20020522213635.859.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> Ronald (Ron), I read till my eyes bled...I was up till 3AM that night. Some of the info was unbelieveable - In fact it inspired me to look at a few other avenues. I'd like to get a copy of the Red Hat you have ... I just picked up blank CD's today. I know it sound like a little overload - BUT - perhaps we could do a dual load - BOTH Alpha's at the same time. Since yours is a desk top size perhaps we could arrange a date/time for a visit? I have a feeling though that the driver issue for the DAC960 Raid card may still come into play... Joe Lukasiewicz Ronald Maggio wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Meyer" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > Well, most newer kernels in distributions don't need to be recompiled to > support a 'standard' or well known device. A lot of the documentation > for devices talk about building kernels, assuming that support isn't already > there. I suspect that if you can get an install started, the RAID card > will be recognized correctly. I just did an install of RedHat 7.2 <--------------------------snip-----------------------------------------> True from what I've read fo far, but I think that RedHat 7.1 should install the same way with the same drivers already available in RedHat. The only thing is that the latest version of RedHat for Alpha's is 7.1. I would recommend RedHat since it is the most use and well knowen for Alpha's. Now mind you there are a few others out there. Have you read any of the info I zipped out to you and the group about Alpha's? I sent web site links and seved web pages stock full of info on the subject, but I will admit its mostly on the model I own. I does pertain to the subject generally. I have it and as I said I'll make a copy of it for you unless your going to downloaded it yourself. I had someone else download it for my because I only have dialup service. It is four full cd's worth! It would have taken me well over a week to download it with dialup service. Well if I can be of anymore assistance let me know. Ron:) on a brand > new Compaq server with an integral RAID and it installed straight up, without > any special handling, other than the Compaq utilities for initializing the > array and installing Compaq Diagnostics. > > Probably should have the same situation with an Alpha processor > distribution from one of the main vendors. > > Cheers! > > Bob > --- Joseph Lukasiewicz wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I've been poking around and managed to scare up some resources that I think > > could assist me (us) in getting the Alpha 2100 up and running. > > > > It seems the controller card for the Raid is a MYLEX DAC960... I have some > > info on it including what I believe to be drivers and possible > > "instructions"... > > > > Rather than just plop everything in the forum, I was wondering how to > > proceed? I think the kernel will need to be rebuilt, or the drivers > > recompiled, or the "recover" kernal made to some how recognize the drivers... > > > > As you can tell, were starting to get a little beyond my level on this...Any > > ideas? > > > > Joe Lukasiewicz > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do You Yahoo!? > > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > > ===== > Bob Meyer > Knightwing Communications, Inc. > 36 Cayuga Blvd > Depew, NY 14043 > Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 > Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020523/e4fa50d0/attachment-0001.html From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Wed May 22 21:07:32 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... References: <20020522213635.859.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000f01c201f6$399bce50$eb00590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Lukasiewicz To: nflug@nflug.org Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... Ronald (Ron), I read till my eyes bled...I was up till 3AM that night. Some of the info was unbelieveable - In fact it inspired me to look at a few other avenues. I'd like to get a copy of the Red Hat you have ... I just picked up blank CD's today. I know it sound like a little overload - BUT - perhaps we could do a dual load - BOTH Alpha's at the same time. Since yours is a desk top size perhaps we could arrange a date/time for a visit? Anytime anyway. All we have to do is arrange a time and date where we can get all that wants to watch and or get involved work on this. One thing though it may take a few hours. In other words many hours! We need the ability to have as much time as needed to do this for this is not like doing an intel box thats for dam sure! I'll burn the disks as soon as I get a chance to do it. All the info I sent as an attachments took a little over a year and theres still more info out there. Especially concerning your box which is a lot more complicated than mine. Well we'll have to plan it. Let me get through this week end and I'll see how's my time frame for the rest of this month or we can plan for it for sometime in June. Ok? Ron:) I have a feeling though that the driver issue for the DAC960 Raid card may still come into play... Joe Lukasiewicz Ronald Maggio wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Meyer" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > Well, most newer kernels in distributions don't need to be recompiled to > support a 'standard' or well known device. A lot of the documentation > for devices talk about building kernels, assuming that support isn't already > there. I suspect that if you can get an install started, the RAID card > will be recognized correctly. I just did an install of RedHat 7.2 <--------------------------snip-----------------------------------------> True from what I've read fo far, but I think that RedHat 7.1 should install the same way with the same drivers already available in RedHat. The only thing is that the latest version of RedHat ! for Alpha's is 7.1. I would recommend RedHat since it is the most use and well knowen for Alpha's. Now mind you there are a few others out there. Have you read any of the info I zipped out to you and the group about Alpha's? I sent web site links and seved web pages stock full of info on the subject, but I will admit its mostly on the model I own. I does pertain to the subject generally. I have it and as I said I'll make a copy of it for you unless your going to downloaded it yourself. I had someone else download it for my because I only have dialup service. It is four full cd's worth! It would have taken me well over a week to download it with dialup service. Well if I can be of anymore assistance let me know. Ron:) on a brand > new Compaq server with an integral RAID and it installed straight up, without > any special handling, other than the Compaq utilities for initializing the > array and! installing Compaq Diagnostics. > > Probably should have the same situation with an Alpha processor > distribution from one of the main vendors. > > Cheers! > > Bob > --- Joseph Lukasiewicz wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I've been poking around and managed to scare up some resources that I think > > could assist me (us) in getting the Alpha 2100 up and running. > > > > It seems the controller card for the Raid is a MYLEX DAC960... I have some > > info on it including what I believe to be drivers and possible > > "instructions"... > > > > Rather than just plop everything in the forum, I was wondering how to > > proceed? I think the kernel will need to be rebuilt, or the drivers > > recompiled, or the "recover" kernal made to some how recognize the drivers... > > > > A! s you can tell, were starting to get a little beyond my level on this...Any > > ideas? > > > > Joe Lukasiewicz > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do You Yahoo!? > > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > > ===== > Bob Meyer > Knightwing Communications, Inc. > 36 Cayuga Blvd > Depew, NY 14043 > Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 > Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020523/241007d1/attachment-0001.html From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Wed May 22 21:29:15 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... References: Message-ID: <002101c201f9$40b08570$eb00590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Dege" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > > > > > I have a feeling though that the driver issue for the DAC960 Raid card may still come into play... > > Fardon my naiveness, but I haven't followed this thread too far, so if my > info's wrong, oh well. > > Just for giggles, I did a search for the DAC960 RAID card on google. The > very first entry that came up was this: > > http://www.dandelion.com/Linux/DAC960.html > > It shows support for the DAC960 RAID card. The chances that the Redhat > stock kernel (or any distro for that matter) is 50/50.... so sayeth the > website. But if it doesn't, you can always recompile the kernel with the > src provided by the site. > > Good luck ;) > > Dege > > So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny > .... If They Weren't Happening To Me > Thanks for the info Rob. I would like one day to get a box like Joseph's to play and learn that type of hardware. Ron:) From peter at thecybersource.com Wed May 22 22:07:36 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... In-Reply-To: <001201c201db$52b16be0$02fea8c0@pepsi> References: <001201c201db$52b16be0$02fea8c0@pepsi> Message-ID: <1022119656.8045.14.camel@Office> Just wanted to cue in here and say that I experience a similar situation on an UPGRADE. Bob Meyer and I worked on it and eventually found: 1. BIOS (Motherboard NOT scsi) played a vital role in handing the boot process to scsi over ide 2. On the upgrade, the necessary init link/file was not passed to the boot strap. This was determined through various steps but the most noticeable was when (after suspecting hardware failure of course :)) was on a fresh install everything worked and booted fine. There are only a handful of scsi adapter manufacturers (less than ide for sure), it's not inconceivable to think they put all the adapter drivers on the distros. On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 17:55, Todd Wirth wrote: On the subject of RedHat kernel having default support for a every SCSI adapter I disagree. We have a Dell server running RedHat 7.2, although I wasn't involved in the upgrade to a newer kernel (Dell provided), I know what happened through various emails between Dell and our other IT guy. They tried 2 stock RedHat kernels that did not work with our SCSI adapter, until finally the 3rd one did the trick. I was about to take over the project and just compile a kernel, but that would have voided our support w/ Dell & RedHat. I'm not too sure about the hardware as this server (besides a Xeon) is in a remote office, but I did see the email traffic, and you could tell the Dell guys were stumped. ;) -- Todd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020523/7b854f58/attachment-0001.html From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Wed May 22 21:26:41 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... References: <001201c201db$52b16be0$02fea8c0@pepsi> Message-ID: <001901c201f8$e556bfa0$eb00590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> ----- Original Message ----- From: Todd Wirth To: nflug@nflug.org Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 5:55 PM Subject: RE: Alpha, additional notes and a question... On the subject of RedHat kernel having default support for a every SCSI adapter I disagree. We have a Dell server running RedHat 7.2, although I wasn't involved in the upgrade to a newer kernel (Dell provided), I know what happened through various emails between Dell and our other IT guy. They tried 2 stock RedHat kernels that did not work with our SCSI adapter, until finally the 3rd one did the trick. I was about to take over the project and just compile a kernel, but that would have voided our support w/ Dell & RedHat. I'm not too sure about the hardware as this server (besides a Xeon) is in a remote office, but I did see the email traffic, and you could tell the Dell guys were stumped. ;) -- Todd I can understand your opinion and your right, but in this case we are at odds with an Alpha a whole different kettle of fish. Alpha's are a lot more complicated then an intel box. We meaning Joseph and I who own DEC Alphas may or may not have one heck of a time getting these boxes to kick over. I sent everyone the info as attachments zipped, I know it a lot of reading but the info I sent took nearly a year to obtain. I'm still looking for more info on what is still not described in detail or even talked about because most people involved (experts) fail to cover the mundane like how to set up the harddrives for every situation. Especially how the harddrives are to be labeled (setup) so on and so forth. I'm putting some notes together to describe the steps it took to get the hardware set up for an install. Well one day I may list all the info on a web site that can help people understand the details that are not always conveyed. Ron:) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020523/878b6322/attachment-0001.html From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Wed May 22 21:16:36 2002 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... In-Reply-To: <20020522213635.859.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > I have a feeling though that the driver issue for the DAC960 Raid card may still come into play... Fardon my naiveness, but I haven't followed this thread too far, so if my info's wrong, oh well. Just for giggles, I did a search for the DAC960 RAID card on google. The very first entry that came up was this: http://www.dandelion.com/Linux/DAC960.html It shows support for the DAC960 RAID card. The chances that the Redhat stock kernel (or any distro for that matter) is 50/50.... so sayeth the website. But if it doesn't, you can always recompile the kernel with the src provided by the site. Good luck ;) Dege So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny .... If They Weren't Happening To Me From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Thu May 23 06:43:33 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... References: <001201c201db$52b16be0$02fea8c0@pepsi> <1022119656.8045.14.camel@Office> Message-ID: <002101c20246$b0796ff0$8801590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> ----- Original Message ----- From: Cyber Source To: nflug@nflug.org Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:07 PM Subject: RE: Alpha, additional notes and a question... Just wanted to cue in here and say that I experience a similar situation on an UPGRADE. Bob Meyer and I worked on it and eventually found: 1. BIOS (Motherboard NOT scsi) played a vital role in handing the boot process to scsi over ide 2. On the upgrade, the necessary init link/file was not passed to the boot strap. This was determined through various steps but the most noticeable was when (after suspecting hardware failure of course :)) was on a fresh install everything worked and booted fine. There are only a handful of scsi adapter manufacturers (less than ide for sure), it's not inconceivable to think they put all the adapter drivers on the distros. <-----------------------------------------------------------------------------snip--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Well this is what I think is happening with Joseph's Alpha box. First he was installing an OS other RedHat that could not have had the drivers needed to set up the raid scsi card right, secondly not using RedHat guaranties that either. But from what I understood it was booting not seeing the raid controller card? and did not see the drives. Also (if) the card was seen that does not mean that the drives where set up correctly. When I tried to install the OS saw the scsi controller but had a problem was the drives. The odds that in Joe's case of the raid scsi card not having drivers already available in the RedHat distro to install could be, but even if ( and I'm no expert the drives it not setup right ) the card is seen if the drives are not set just right (may or may not have) an influence as to weather the raid scsi card functions correctly. Or it could be a bad card? Who knows I've yet to see the box or an attempt to an install in action on the box in question. We'll find out in time the in's and out's of the beast. Well till future correspondence. Ron:) On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 17:55, Todd Wirth wrote: On the subject of RedHat kernel having default support for a every SCSI adapter I disagree. We have a Dell server running RedHat 7.2, although I wasn't involved in the upgrade to a newer kernel (Dell provided), I know what happened through various emails between Dell and our other IT guy. They tried 2 stock RedHat kernels that did not work with our SCSI adapter, until finally the 3rd one did the trick. I was about to take over the project and just compile a kernel, but that would have voided our support w/ Dell & RedHat. I'm not too sure about the hardware as this server (besides a Xeon) is in a remote office, but I did see the email traffic, and you could tell the Dell guys were stumped. ;) -- Todd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020523/39d166e3/attachment-0001.html From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Thu May 23 07:14:37 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... References: <001201c201db$52b16be0$02fea8c0@pepsi> <1022119656.8045.14.camel@Office> <002101c20246$b0796ff0$8801590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> Message-ID: <000901c2024b$07aa76d0$0e01590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> ----- Original Message ----- From: Ronald Maggio To: nflug@nflug.org Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 6:43 AM Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... ----- Original Message ----- From: Cyber Source To: nflug@nflug.org Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:07 PM Subject: RE: Alpha, additional notes and a question... Just wanted to cue in here and say that I experience a similar situation on an UPGRADE. Bob Meyer and I worked on it and eventually found: 1. BIOS (Motherboard NOT scsi) played a vital role in handing the boot process to scsi over ide 2. On the upgrade, the necessary init link/file was not passed to the boot strap. This was determined through various steps but the most noticeable was when (after suspecting hardware failure of course :)) was on a fresh install everything worked and booted fine. There are only a handful of scsi adapter manufacturers (less than ide for sure), it's not inconceivable to think they put all the adapter drivers on the distros. <-----------------------------------------------------------------------------snip--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Well this is what I think is happening with Joseph's Alpha box. First he was installing an OS other RedHat that may not have had the drivers needed to set up the raid scsi card right. Secondly using RedHat does not guarantee that either, but from what I understood it was booting and not seeing the raid controller card? Plus it did not see the drives. So lets say (if) the card was seen that does not mean that the drives where set up correctly. When I tried to install the OS on mine it saw the scsi controller but had a problem with the drives. The odds are that in Joe's case that the raid scsi card not having drivers available in the RedHat distro could be. But even if ( and I'm no expert if the drives where or not setup correctly ) say if the card is seen, but if the drives are not set just right it may or may not have an influence as to weather the raid scsi card functions correctly. Also it could be a bad card who knows? I've yet to see the box or see an attempt to do install in action on the box in question. We'll find out in time the in's and out's of the beast. Till future correspondence. Ron:) P.S. Boy I dun type good...Not! Look at all the typo's and not so perfect grammar. Its now 7am and I'm just getting coffee. I think I should wait till I get some coffee in me before I start writing. Ron:) On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 17:55, Todd Wirth wrote: On the subject of RedHat kernel having default support for a every SCSI adapter I disagree. We have a Dell server running RedHat 7.2, although I wasn't involved in the upgrade to a newer kernel (Dell provided), I know what happened through various emails between Dell and our other IT guy. They tried 2 stock RedHat kernels that did not work with our SCSI adapter, until finally the 3rd one did the trick. I was about to take over the project and just compile a kernel, but that would have voided our support w/ Dell & RedHat. I'm not too sure about the hardware as this server (besides a Xeon) is in a remote office, but I did see the email traffic, and you could tell the Dell guys were stumped. ;) -- Todd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020523/cee6fe09/attachment-0001.html From Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com Thu May 23 08:11:48 2002 From: Darin.Perusich at cognigencorp.com (Darin Perusich) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... References: <001201c201db$52b16be0$02fea8c0@pepsi> <1022119656.8045.14.camel@Office> <002101c20246$b0796ff0$8801590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> <000901c2024b$07aa76d0$0e01590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> Message-ID: <3CECDC84.9040807@phor.com> take a look at http://www.linuxalpha.org/ for detailed info on running linux on alpha processors. you don't necessarily need to burn the cd's to install the OS on your system, if you have a fast internet connection that is. i did a network installation of debian stable on my Sun IPX over my cable modem in about 1 hour or so. Ronald Maggio wrote: > ? > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ronald Maggio > > To: nflug@nflug.org > > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 6:43 AM > > Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Cyber Source > > To: nflug@nflug.org > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:07 PM > > Subject: RE: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > > > Just wanted to cue in here and say that I experience a similar > situation on an UPGRADE. Bob Meyer and I worked on it and > eventually found: > 1. BIOS (Motherboard NOT scsi) played a vital role in handing > the boot process to scsi over ide > 2. On the upgrade, the necessary init link/file was not passed > to the boot strap. > This was determined through various steps but the most > noticeable was when (after suspecting hardware failure of course > :)) was on a fresh install everything worked and booted fine. > There are only a handful of scsi adapter manufacturers (less > than ide for sure), it's not inconceivable to think they put all > the adapter drivers on the distros. > > <-----------------------------------------------------------------------------snip---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > Well this is what I think is happening with Joseph's Alpha box. > First he was installing an OS other RedHat that may not have had > the drivers needed to set up the raid scsi card right. > Secondly using RedHat does not guarantee that either, but from > what I understood it was booting and not seeing the raid > controller card? Plus it did not see the drives. So lets say > (if) the card was seen that does not mean that the drives where > set up correctly. When I tried to install the OS on mine it saw > the scsi controller but had a problem with the drives. The odds > are that in Joe's case that the raid scsi card not having > drivers available in the RedHat distro could be. But even if ( > and I'm no expert if the drives where or not setup correctly ) > say if the card is seen, but if the drives are not set just > right it may or may not have an influence as to weather the raid > scsi card functions correctly. Also it could be a bad card who > knows? I've yet to see the box or see an attempt to do install > in action on the box in question. We'll find out in time the > in's and out's of the beast. > > Till future correspondence. > > > > Ron:) > > > > P.S. Boy I dun type good...Not! Look at all the typo's and not > so perfect grammar. Its now 7am and I'm just getting coffee. I > think I should wait till I get some coffee in me before I start > writing. > > > > Ron:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 17:55, Todd Wirth wrote: > > On the subject of RedHat kernel having default support for a > every SCSI adapter I disagree. We have a Dell server running > RedHat 7.2, although I wasn't involved in the upgrade to a > newer kernel (Dell provided), I know what happened through > various emails between Dell and our other IT guy. They > tried 2 stock RedHat kernels that did not work with our SCSI > adapter, until finally the 3rd one did the trick. I was > about to take over the project and just compile a kernel, > but that would have voided our support w/ Dell & RedHat. > > I'm not too sure about the hardware as this server (besides > a Xeon) is in a remote office, but I did see the email > traffic, and you could tell the Dell guys were stumped. ;) > > -- Todd > -- Darin Perusich Unix Systems Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Thu May 23 09:31:14 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... References: <001201c201db$52b16be0$02fea8c0@pepsi> <1022119656.8045.14.camel@Office> <002101c20246$b0796ff0$8801590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> <000901c2024b$07aa76d0$0e01590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> <3CECDC84.9040807@phor.com> Message-ID: <000501c2025e$1d7d0870$ce00590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darin Perusich" To: Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 8:11 AM Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... take a look at http://www.linuxalpha.org/ for detailed info on running linux on alpha processors. you don't necessarily need to burn the cd's to install the OS on your system, if you have a fast internet connection that is. i did a network installation of debian stable on my Sun IPX over my cable modem in about 1 hour or so. Thanks for the info Darin. But unfortunately I don't have a broadband. I'll take a look and see if theres any info I have not read yet there. Ron:) Ronald Maggio wrote: > ? > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ronald Maggio > > To: nflug@nflug.org > > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 6:43 AM > > Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Cyber Source > > To: nflug@nflug.org > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:07 PM > > Subject: RE: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > > > Just wanted to cue in here and say that I experience a similar > situation on an UPGRADE. Bob Meyer and I worked on it and > eventually found: > 1. BIOS (Motherboard NOT scsi) played a vital role in handing > the boot process to scsi over ide > 2. On the upgrade, the necessary init link/file was not passed > to the boot strap. > This was determined through various steps but the most > noticeable was when (after suspecting hardware failure of course > :)) was on a fresh install everything worked and booted fine. > There are only a handful of scsi adapter manufacturers (less > than ide for sure), it's not inconceivable to think they put all > the adapter drivers on the distros. > > <--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --snip---------------------------------------------------------------------- -----------------> > > Well this is what I think is happening with Joseph's Alpha box. > First he was installing an OS other RedHat that may not have had > the drivers needed to set up the raid scsi card right. > Secondly using RedHat does not guarantee that either, but from > what I understood it was booting and not seeing the raid > controller card? Plus it did not see the drives. So lets say > (if) the card was seen that does not mean that the drives where > set up correctly. When I tried to install the OS on mine it saw > the scsi controller but had a problem with the drives. The odds > are that in Joe's case that the raid scsi card not having > drivers available in the RedHat distro could be. But even if ( > and I'm no expert if the drives where or not setup correctly ) > say if the card is seen, but if the drives are not set just > right it may or may not have an influence as to weather the raid > scsi card functions correctly. Also it could be a bad card who > knows? I've yet to see the box or see an attempt to do install > in action on the box in question. We'll find out in time the > in's and out's of the beast. > > Till future correspondence. > > > > Ron:) > > > > P.S. Boy I dun type good...Not! Look at all the typo's and not > so perfect grammar. Its now 7am and I'm just getting coffee. I > think I should wait till I get some coffee in me before I start > writing. > > > > Ron:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 17:55, Todd Wirth wrote: > > On the subject of RedHat kernel having default support for a > every SCSI adapter I disagree. We have a Dell server running > RedHat 7.2, although I wasn't involved in the upgrade to a > newer kernel (Dell provided), I know what happened through > various emails between Dell and our other IT guy. They > tried 2 stock RedHat kernels that did not work with our SCSI > adapter, until finally the 3rd one did the trick. I was > about to take over the project and just compile a kernel, > but that would have voided our support w/ Dell & RedHat. > > I'm not too sure about the hardware as this server (besides > a Xeon) is in a remote office, but I did see the email > traffic, and you could tell the Dell guys were stumped. ;) > > -- Todd > -- Darin Perusich Unix Systems Administrator Cognigen Corp. darinper@cognigencorp.com From jjneff at yahoo.com Thu May 23 10:43:50 2002 From: jjneff at yahoo.com (JJ Neff) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... In-Reply-To: <3CECDC84.9040807@phor.com> Message-ID: <20020523144351.83138.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> This is what I wanted to chime in. Debian works very hard to support the widest range of hardware of the larger or more well known distros. They tend to be behind in getting the newest stuff in the distro (ie KDE3, XF4.2) because they want stable to mean "stable" on a very large amount of hardware. Alpha is very supported by this group... JJN --- Darin Perusich wrote: > take a look at http://www.linuxalpha.org/ for detailed info on running > linux on alpha processors. you don't necessarily need to burn the cd's > to install the OS on your system, if you have a fast internet connection > that is. i did a network installation of debian stable on my Sun IPX > over my cable modem in about 1 hour or so. > > Ronald Maggio wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Ronald Maggio > > > > To: nflug@nflug.org > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 6:43 AM > > > > Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Cyber Source > > > > To: nflug@nflug.org > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:07 PM > > > > Subject: RE: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > > > > > > Just wanted to cue in here and say that I experience a similar > > situation on an UPGRADE. Bob Meyer and I worked on it and > > eventually found: > > 1. BIOS (Motherboard NOT scsi) played a vital role in handing > > the boot process to scsi over ide > > 2. On the upgrade, the necessary init link/file was not passed > > to the boot strap. > > This was determined through various steps but the most > > noticeable was when (after suspecting hardware failure of course > > :)) was on a fresh install everything worked and booted fine. > > There are only a handful of scsi adapter manufacturers (less > > than ide for sure), it's not inconceivable to think they put all > > the adapter drivers on the distros. > > > > > <-----------------------------------------------------------------------------snip---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > > Well this is what I think is happening with Joseph's Alpha box. > > First he was installing an OS other RedHat that may not have had > > the drivers needed to set up the raid scsi card right. > > Secondly using RedHat does not guarantee that either, but from > > what I understood it was booting and not seeing the raid > > controller card? Plus it did not see the drives. So lets say > > (if) the card was seen that does not mean that the drives where > > set up correctly. When I tried to install the OS on mine it saw > > the scsi controller but had a problem with the drives. The odds > > are that in Joe's case that the raid scsi card not having > > drivers available in the RedHat distro could be. But even if ( > > and I'm no expert if the drives where or not setup correctly ) > > say if the card is seen, but if the drives are not set just > > right it may or may not have an influence as to weather the raid > > scsi card functions correctly. Also it could be a bad card who > > knows? I've yet to see the box or see an attempt to do install > > in action on the box in question. We'll find out in time the > > in's and out's of the beast. > > > > Till future correspondence. > > > > > > > > Ron:) > > > > > > > > P.S. Boy I dun type good...Not! Look at all the typo's and not > > so perfect grammar. Its now 7am and I'm just getting coffee. I > > think I should wait till I get some coffee in me before I start > > writing. > > > > > > > > Ron:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 17:55, Todd Wirth wrote: > > > > On the subject of RedHat kernel having default support for a > > every SCSI adapter I disagree. We have a Dell server running > > RedHat 7.2, although I wasn't involved in the upgrade to a > > newer kernel (Dell provided), I know what happened through > > various emails between Dell and our other IT guy. They > > tried 2 stock RedHat kernels that did not work with our SCSI > > adapter, until finally the 3rd one did the trick. I was > > about to take over the project and just compile a kernel, > > but that would have voided our support w/ Dell & RedHat. > > > > I'm not too sure about the hardware as this server (besides > > a Xeon) is in a remote office, but I did see the email > > traffic, and you could tell the Dell guys were stumped. ;) > > > > -- Todd > > > > > -- > Darin Perusich > Unix Systems Administrator > Cognigen Corp. > darinper@cognigencorp.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From niterav at adelphia.net Thu May 23 12:19:49 2002 From: niterav at adelphia.net (Ronald K. Wechter) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: Hello World Message-ID: <002301c20275$a9952bf0$1f01a8c0@diggerii> OK, Sorry - I have recently moved from my Navy job and will be starting a new one this Tuesday. First of all the email admin can delete the account: wechterr@cnrc.navy.mil Secondly, the status of the computers - The amount of computers that I have available has changed - I have 2 available. In understand that I stated that I would keep them for the NFLUG but, as you know we are here to promote Linux, I have donated a few of them to the Depew Fire Department and will be looking to use them as servers and/or workstations. Someone at the hall yesterday tried to put Win2k on the box (arrrrgh!) but I will fight for Linux. Ok - Computer #1 has the exact hardware that I last sent. Computer #2 is slightly different (A bit different motherboard) but I will try to find out the info - Still a BCM motherboard. Since I really do not want to get into price wars I was thinking that I could donate these boxes to the NFLUG and the NFLUG could either raffle these bad boys off or have some sort of contest. Any other suggestions please email me :-) Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020523/69ad0ffc/attachment-0001.html From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Thu May 23 15:41:23 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: setting up common location for mozilla bookmarks and email In-Reply-To: <20020523193419.37360.qmail@web11306.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020523193419.37360.qmail@web11306.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1022182883.6296.76.camel@polo> eeww.. I don't know if that possible. Linux looks in .netscape in your home dir. I don't know if you can change it. As for email, can you do IMAP? On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 15:34, umar wrote: > hi there, > > can someone guide me on how to set up the bookmarks of > mozilla in such a way that both windows and linux > versions of mozilla can access same bookmarks > (obviously they would store somewhere in windows > partition but dont know exactly where and how). Also, > I would like to do same for emails so that I can > access my email account no matter which OS I am > running. > > Umar > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Dynabrade using MailScanner, > and is believed to be clean. -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Thu May 23 15:55:28 2002 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:54 2007 Subject: setting up common location for mozilla bookmarks and email In-Reply-To: <1022182883.6296.76.camel@polo> Message-ID: Actually, Mozilla installs ts preferences into a .mozilla folder. Unless it detects the existence of a .netscape folder, then it will use that. There are 2 problems I see with sharing. One, I don't know if Mozilla for Windows uses the same config layout as Linux (though logically it would seem sane). Two, 7bit character encoding vs. 8-bit encoding. aka, Windows using the extra bit for carraige returns might make Mozilla think the preferences (or email files for that matter) are corrupt. Just some food for thought -Rob > eeww.. I don't know if that possible. Linux looks in .netscape in your > home dir. I don't know if you can change it. As for email, can you do > IMAP? > > On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 15:34, umar wrote: > > hi there, > > > > can someone guide me on how to set up the bookmarks of > > mozilla in such a way that both windows and linux > > versions of mozilla can access same bookmarks > > (obviously they would store somewhere in windows > > partition but dont know exactly where and how). Also, > > I would like to do same for emails so that I can > > access my email account no matter which OS I am > > running. > > > > Umar > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > > http://launch.yahoo.com > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by Dynabrade using MailScanner, > > and is believed to be clean. > -- > ------------------------------------------- > Justin Bennett > Red Hat Certified Engineer > Network Administrator > Dynabrade Inc. > 8989 Sheridan Dr > Clarence, NY 14031 > 716-631-0100 ext 215 > Dege So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny .... If They Weren't Happening To Me From umar99 at yahoo.com Thu May 23 15:34:19 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: setting up common location for mozilla bookmarks and email Message-ID: <20020523193419.37360.qmail@web11306.mail.yahoo.com> hi there, can someone guide me on how to set up the bookmarks of mozilla in such a way that both windows and linux versions of mozilla can access same bookmarks (obviously they would store somewhere in windows partition but dont know exactly where and how). Also, I would like to do same for emails so that I can access my email account no matter which OS I am running. Umar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net Thu May 23 15:02:39 2002 From: r.v.maggio at worldnet.att.net (Ronald Maggio) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: Alpha, additional notes and a question... References: <20020523144351.83138.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001501c2028c$696d6850$6301590c@hswtcrs6kx50wl> ----- Original Message ----- From: "JJ Neff" To: Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 10:43 AM Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... This is what I wanted to chime in. Debian works very hard to support the widest range of hardware of the larger or more well known distros. They tend to be behind in getting the newest stuff in the distro (ie KDE3, XF4.2) because they want stable to mean "stable" on a very large amount of hardware. Alpha is very supported by this group... JJN Thanks for the info John. Yes I do know that, and thats why I'm trying to get the 233Mhz unit up and running. I already had plans to install Debian or one of the other distro's on the 166Mhz unit later. The main problem is first understanding how to get them up and running. I had to search high and low to find any information on how to set up these units. Not a lot of available info is on the mundain details of how to set them up. I've read what authors where writing on the subject and nearly all leave out the mundain stuff and write like your already aware of how to start from the ground up. If these authors could come down from the clouds of super techville and cover the every conceivable notion relating from (((setting up the hardware))) and then to installing, and post installation checks. Most if not even all questions would be answered. But I have yet read one that relates to the hardware answering the question. Now how do I make sure that the hardware is correctly set up right to do an install? All I've mainly read gave little information to hardware and focused in on the OS installation. Not every one is a been there done that. Till future correspondence. Ron:) --- Darin Perusich wrote: > take a look at http://www.linuxalpha.org/ for detailed info on running > linux on alpha processors. you don't necessarily need to burn the cd's > to install the OS on your system, if you have a fast internet connection > that is. i did a network installation of debian stable on my Sun IPX > over my cable modem in about 1 hour or so. > > Ronald Maggio wrote: > > > ??? > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Ronald Maggio > > > > To: nflug@nflug.org > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 6:43 AM > > > > Subject: Re: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Cyber Source > > > > To: nflug@nflug.org > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:07 PM > > > > Subject: RE: Alpha, additional notes and a question... > > > > > > Just wanted to cue in here and say that I experience a similar > > situation on an UPGRADE. Bob Meyer and I worked on it and > > eventually found: > > 1. BIOS (Motherboard NOT scsi) played a vital role in handing > > the boot process to scsi over ide > > 2. On the upgrade, the necessary init link/file was not passed > > to the boot strap. > > This was determined through various steps but the most > > noticeable was when (after suspecting hardware failure of course > > :)) was on a fresh install everything worked and booted fine. > > There are only a handful of scsi adapter manufacturers (less > > than ide for sure), it's not inconceivable to think they put all > > the adapter drivers on the distros. > > > > > <--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --snip---------------------------------------------------------------------- -----------------> > > > > Well this is what I think is happening with Joseph's Alpha box. > > First he was installing an OS other RedHat that may not have had > > the drivers needed to set up the raid scsi card right. > > Secondly using RedHat does not guarantee that either, but from > > what I understood it was booting and not seeing the raid > > controller card? Plus it did not see the drives. So lets say > > (if) the card was seen that does not mean that the drives where > > set up correctly. When I tried to install the OS on mine it saw > > the scsi controller but had a problem with the drives. The odds > > are that in Joe's case that the raid scsi card not having > > drivers available in the RedHat distro could be. But even if ( > > and I'm no expert if the drives where or not setup correctly ) > > say if the card is seen, but if the drives are not set just > > right it may or may not have an influence as to weather the raid > > scsi card functions correctly. Also it could be a bad card who > > knows? I've yet to see the box or see an attempt to do install > > in action on the box in question. We'll find out in time the > > in's and out's of the beast. > > > > Till future correspondence. > > > > > > > > Ron:) > > > > > > > > P.S. Boy I dun type good...Not! Look at all the typo's and not > > so perfect grammar. Its now 7am and I'm just getting coffee. I > > think I should wait till I get some coffee in me before I start > > writing. > > > > > > > > Ron:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 17:55, Todd Wirth wrote: > > > > On the subject of RedHat kernel having default support for a > > every SCSI adapter I disagree. We have a Dell server running > > RedHat 7.2, although I wasn't involved in the upgrade to a > > newer kernel (Dell provided), I know what happened through > > various emails between Dell and our other IT guy. They > > tried 2 stock RedHat kernels that did not work with our SCSI > > adapter, until finally the 3rd one did the trick. I was > > about to take over the project and just compile a kernel, > > but that would have voided our support w/ Dell & RedHat. > > > > I'm not too sure about the hardware as this server (besides > > a Xeon) is in a remote office, but I did see the email > > traffic, and you could tell the Dell guys were stumped. ;) > > > > -- Todd > > > > > -- > Darin Perusich > Unix Systems Administrator > Cognigen Corp. > darinper@cognigencorp.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From deadpoint at adelphia.net Thu May 23 17:20:28 2002 From: deadpoint at adelphia.net (deadpoint) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: setting up common location for mozilla bookmarks and email References: Message-ID: <3CED5D1C.8050301@adelphia.net> netscape use to have support for roaming profiles, where it would store all your preferences in an LDAP server. the support for this existed in version 4.x of the browser but i'm not sure about netscape 6x or mozilla. if it's there it isn't very apparent. Robert Dege wrote: >Actually, Mozilla installs ts preferences into a .mozilla folder. Unless >it detects the existence of a .netscape folder, then it will use that. > >There are 2 problems I see with sharing. One, I don't know if Mozilla for >Windows uses the same config layout as Linux (though logically it would >seem sane). Two, 7bit character encoding vs. 8-bit encoding. aka, >Windows using the extra bit for carraige returns might make Mozilla think >the preferences (or email files for that matter) are corrupt. > >Just some food for thought > >-Rob > > > > >>eeww.. I don't know if that possible. Linux looks in .netscape in your >>home dir. I don't know if you can change it. As for email, can you do >>IMAP? >> >>On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 15:34, umar wrote: >> >> >>>hi there, >>> >>>can someone guide me on how to set up the bookmarks of >>>mozilla in such a way that both windows and linux >>>versions of mozilla can access same bookmarks >>>(obviously they would store somewhere in windows >>>partition but dont know exactly where and how). Also, >>>I would like to do same for emails so that I can >>>access my email account no matter which OS I am >>>running. >>> >>>Umar >>> >>>__________________________________________________ >>>Do You Yahoo!? >>>LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience >>>http://launch.yahoo.com >>> >>>-- >>>This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>dangerous content by Dynabrade using MailScanner, >>>and is believed to be clean. >>> >>> >>-- >>------------------------------------------- >>Justin Bennett >>Red Hat Certified Engineer >>Network Administrator >>Dynabrade Inc. >>8989 Sheridan Dr >>Clarence, NY 14031 >>716-631-0100 ext 215 >> >> >> > > > >Dege > >So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny >.... If They Weren't Happening To Me > > > > From pvant67 at wnyip.net Thu May 23 17:58:26 2002 From: pvant67 at wnyip.net (peter) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: spare boxes : an idea Message-ID: <3CED6602.1080301@wnyip.net> Hi all, let me introduce myself. I'm pete, a 4-year linux user, mostly RH but sometimes homebrew. Looking to join the LUG, since I've been lurking on the list for a few weeks. Missed the last 2 meetings -- I was busy relocating to Lockport, when the car died permanently. Maybe the next one, I can make it. I saw a cool idea for those spare boxes Ron has at http://www.linuxplanet.com There's an article there from a Florida LUG about their online conferencing system, down near the bottom of the page. BTW last I checked, the DAC960 is supported under the newer RH versions, but there were a few patches for it on 2.5.17 on the kernel mailing list today. (I roll my own...) Hope to see you all soon! pete -- "Truly, if Te is strong in one, all one needs to do is sit on one's ass, and the corpse of one's enemy shall be carried past shortly." -- spotted somewhere on Usenet From jlukasiewicz at yahoo.com Fri May 24 13:00:06 2002 From: jlukasiewicz at yahoo.com (Joseph Lukasiewicz) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: makedev, disklabel, aboot, milo ... In-Reply-To: <20020523093522.B2634@linux04.mro.cpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <20020524170006.49234.qmail@web14208.mail.yahoo.com> Jay, confirmed, the DAC960 has an older firmware version - 2.43 I believe (like an idiot I didn't write it down). The SRM Console is V 5.3-2, The VMS PALcode is V5.56-7 and the OSF PALcode is V 1.45-12. ARC Alpha Firmware Version 4.58... The MYLEX site had an upgrade to 2.73, BUT it was full of warnings and sounded like "death on toast" if you don't go the OEM route. I searched but could not find a DEC/Compaq/HP flash for the controller... If I did decide to go the NCR route - won't there be a limit on the number of SCSI devices that controller will support? The drives are in the internal cage 3 two's and 4 four's...with a tape drive and CD-Rom I have a feeling I will end up short. What is IIRC? The SRM Console is V 5.3-2, The VMS PALcode is V5.56-7 and the OSF PALcode is V 1.45-12. ARC Alpha Firmware Version 4.58... I'm bumming if I can't use the drives I have - it will push me back towards NT 4.0 SP6 as the OS of choice with the linux dreams off this platform and on to some INTEL box... Joe Lukasiewicz Jay Estabrook wrote: Hi, Joe, sorry about the delay... On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 05:17:30PM -0700, Joseph Lukasiewicz wrote: > > Hi...I've tried a few things and I appear to be at a wall on the > Potato load on the Alpha 2100 (Sable). If the DAC960 controller has old firmware (and almost all the ones that ran originally with OSF or NT on the older boxes are), then the Linux DAC960 driver will NOT work. First off, there's no MILO for SABLE - you MUST run SRM. Second, unless you update the firmware on the DAC960 board, it will not be usable with Linux. This would cost money, IIRC, and need to be done via MYLEX the company. Thirdly, there is an internal NCR810 SCSI controller that you should be able to cable up to the builtin "shelf", and use the disks from there. That driver is well-tested under Linux. >From there, software RAID may be an option... Good luck. --Jay++ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jay A Estabrook HPTC - LINUX support Hewlett-Packard Company - MRO1-2/K15 (508) 467-2080 200 Forest Street, Marlboro MA 01752 Jay.Estabrook@hp.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020524/ff8a0f08/attachment-0001.html From shipdadip at adelphia.net Fri May 24 13:36:29 2002 From: shipdadip at adelphia.net (shipdadip) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: makedev, disklabel, aboot, milo ... References: <20020524170006.49234.qmail@web14208.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000a01c20349$8b7287b0$0b00a8c0@athlon> Installed Rehat 7.3, using XChat for IRC, I can'tconnet to any servers, can anyone help me out? ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Lukasiewicz To: Jay Estabrook Cc: Niagara Frontier Linux Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 1:00 PM Subject: Re: makedev, disklabel, aboot, milo ... Jay, confirmed, the DAC960 has an older firmware version - 2.43 I believe (like an idiot I didn't write it down). The SRM Console is V 5.3-2, The VMS PALcode is V5.56-7 and the OSF PALcode is V 1.45-12. ARC Alpha Firmware Version 4.58... The MYLEX site had an upgrade to 2.73, BUT it was full of warnings and sounded like "death on toast" if you don't go the OEM route. I searched but could not find a DEC/Compaq/HP flash for the controller... If I did decide to go the NCR route - won't there be a limit on the number of SCSI devices that controller will support? The drives are in the internal cage 3 two's and 4 four's...with a tape drive and CD-Rom I have a feeling I will end up short. What is IIRC? The SRM Console is V 5.3-2, The VMS PALcode is V5.56-7 and the OSF PALcode is V 1.45-12. ARC Alpha Firmware Version 4.58... I'm bumming if I can't use the drives I have - it will push me back towards NT 4.0 SP6 as the OS of choice with the linux dreams off this platform and on to some INTEL box... Joe Lukasiewicz Jay Estabrook wrote: Hi, Joe, sorry about the delay... On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 05:17:30PM -0700, Joseph Lukasiewicz wrote: > > Hi...I've tried a few things and I appear to be at a wall on the > Potato load on the Alpha 2100 (Sable). If the DAC960 controller has old firmware (and almost all the ones that ran originally with OSF or NT on the older boxes are), then the Linux DAC960 driver will NOT work. First off, there's no MILO for SABLE - you MUST run SRM. Second, unless you update the firmware on the DAC960 board, it will not be usable with Linux. This would cost money, IIRC, and need to be done via MYLEX the company. Thirdly, there is an internal NCR810 SCSI controller that you should be able to cable up to the builtin "shelf", and use the disks from there. That driver is well-tested under Linux. From there, software RAID may be an option... Good luck. --Jay++ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jay A Estabrook HPTC - LINUX support Hewlett-Packard Company - MRO1-2/K15 (508) 467-2080 200 Forest Street, Marlboro MA 01752 Jay.Estabrook@hp.com ----------------------------------------! ------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020524/59269868/attachment-0001.html From umar99 at yahoo.com Sun May 26 12:13:54 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: what is a good proxy server Message-ID: <20020526161354.37330.qmail@web11304.mail.yahoo.com> hi all, since my mandrake connection sharing system is not working (and no one was able to help me with that), I am thinking about setting up a third party server to share my cable connection with my roommates. I want to know what are good proxy servers for linux that can handle upto 5 clients and support ftp, telnet, ssh and various instant messengers. I have heard of squid but dont know how good or bad it is. Any help in this regard would be appreciated. And NO I cannot buy a new box to act as a router. I have to do something using my own box. Umar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From deadpoint at adelphia.net Mon May 27 10:50:29 2002 From: deadpoint at adelphia.net (deadpoint) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: what is a good proxy server References: <20020526161354.37330.qmail@web11304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3CF247B5.5000901@adelphia.net> where you ever able to connect to the net using your linux machine? without that you'll never get the connection shaing to work. does your machine have 2 network cards? how are your NIC(s) configured? send the output from the following commands to the list. ifconfig -a netstat -rn cat /etc/resolv.conf cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ipchains -L iptables -L umar wrote: >hi all, > >since my mandrake connection sharing system is not >working (and no one was able to help me with that), I >am thinking about setting up a third party server to >share my cable connection with my roommates. I want to >know what are good proxy servers for linux that can >handle upto 5 clients and support ftp, telnet, ssh and >various instant messengers. > >I have heard of squid but dont know how good or bad it >is. Any help in this regard would be appreciated. > >And NO I cannot buy a new box to act as a router. I >have to do something using my own box. > >Umar > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup >http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > From umar99 at yahoo.com Mon May 27 11:10:23 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: what is a good proxy server In-Reply-To: <3CF247B5.5000901@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <20020527151023.6969.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> offcourse my internet is working and i have two NIC. Here are the outputs. They are different from what mandrake generated for me since a friend of mine came yesterday and he reconfigured the iptables, but I havent got a chance yet to test it on client computers. ------------------------------------ [root@siddiqi umar]# ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:01:03:CE:8E:29 inet addr:68.65.8.57 Bcast:68.65.9.255 Mask:255.255.254.0 UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:305110 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:3 TX packets:19449 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1 collisions:266 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:76774520 (73.2 Mb) TX bytes:2781753 (2.6 Mb) Interrupt:3 Base address:0xdc00 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:5A:45:B6:5E inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:935 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:109885 (107.3 Kb) TX bytes:2772 (2.7 Kb) Interrupt:11 Base address:0xd800 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:1081 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1081 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:73024 (71.3 Kb) TX bytes:73024 (71.3 Kb) ----------------------------------------- [root@siddiqi umar]# netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 40 0 0 eth1 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 40 0 0 eth1 68.65.8.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.254.0 U 40 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 40 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 68.65.8.1 0.0.0.0 UG 40 0 0 eth0 ------------------------------------------- nameserver 24.48.33.2 nameserver 24.48.33.3 search buf.adelphia.net. ----------------------------------------- cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 1[root@siddiqi umar]# ipchains -L ipchains: Incompatible with this kernel [root@siddiqi umar]# iptables -L Chain INPUT (policy DROP) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp spt:bootpc dpt:bootps ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:bootpc dpt:bootps ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpt:domain ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:domain DROP tcp -- anywhere 127.0.0.0/8 ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere state RELATED,ESTABLISHED ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere DROP all -- BASE-ADDRESS.MCAST.NET/4 anywhere PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere DROP all -- anywhere anywhere Chain FORWARD (policy DROP) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT all -- 192.168.0.0/24 anywhere ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere state RELATED,ESTABLISHED Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere Chain INT_IN (0 references) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere DROP all -- anywhere anywhere Chain INT_OUT (0 references) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere Chain PUB_IN (3 references) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp destination-unreachable ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp echo-reply ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp time-exceeded ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:domain ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:pop2 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:imap ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:http ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ftp-data ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ftp ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:pop3 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ssh ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:telnet ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:https ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:smtp ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:domain ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpt:domain ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpt:domain LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:telnet state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ftp state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:imap state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:pop3 state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:finger state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:sunrpc state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:exec state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:login state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:tacnews state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ssh state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpt:31337 state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' DROP icmp -- anywhere anywhere DROP all -- anywhere anywhere Chain PUB_OUT (3 references) target prot opt source destination REJECT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp destination-unreachable reject-with icmp-port-unreachable REJECT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp time-exceeded reject-with icmp-port-unreachable ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere ----------------------------------------- --- deadpoint wrote: > where you ever able to connect to the net using your > linux machine? > without that you'll never get the connection shaing > to work. does your > machine have 2 network cards? how are your NIC(s) > configured? send the > output from the following commands to the list. > > ifconfig -a > netstat -rn > cat /etc/resolv.conf > cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > ipchains -L > iptables -L > > umar wrote: > > >hi all, > > > >since my mandrake connection sharing system is not > >working (and no one was able to help me with that), > I > >am thinking about setting up a third party server > to > >share my cable connection with my roommates. I want > to > >know what are good proxy servers for linux that can > >handle upto 5 clients and support ftp, telnet, ssh > and > >various instant messengers. > > > >I have heard of squid but dont know how good or bad > it > >is. Any help in this regard would be appreciated. > > > >And NO I cannot buy a new box to act as a router. I > >have to do something using my own box. > > > >Umar > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > >http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From todd at phyberoptiks.net Mon May 27 11:41:27 2002 From: todd at phyberoptiks.net (Todd Wirth) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: what is a good proxy server In-Reply-To: <20020527151023.6969.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001501c20594$f71f0860$02fea8c0@pepsi> What's your output from: iptables -t nat -L -- Todd -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of umar Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 11:10 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: what is a good proxy server offcourse my internet is working and i have two NIC. Here are the outputs. They are different from what mandrake generated for me since a friend of mine came yesterday and he reconfigured the iptables, but I havent got a chance yet to test it on client computers. ------------------------------------ [root@siddiqi umar]# ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:01:03:CE:8E:29 inet addr:68.65.8.57 Bcast:68.65.9.255 Mask:255.255.254.0 UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:305110 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:3 TX packets:19449 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1 collisions:266 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:76774520 (73.2 Mb) TX bytes:2781753 (2.6 Mb) Interrupt:3 Base address:0xdc00 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:5A:45:B6:5E inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:935 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:109885 (107.3 Kb) TX bytes:2772 (2.7 Kb) Interrupt:11 Base address:0xd800 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:1081 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1081 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:73024 (71.3 Kb) TX bytes:73024 (71.3 Kb) ----------------------------------------- [root@siddiqi umar]# netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 40 0 0 eth1 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 40 0 0 eth1 68.65.8.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.254.0 U 40 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 40 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 68.65.8.1 0.0.0.0 UG 40 0 0 eth0 ------------------------------------------- nameserver 24.48.33.2 nameserver 24.48.33.3 search buf.adelphia.net. ----------------------------------------- cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 1[root@siddiqi umar]# ipchains -L ipchains: Incompatible with this kernel [root@siddiqi umar]# iptables -L Chain INPUT (policy DROP) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp spt:bootpc dpt:bootps ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:bootpc dpt:bootps ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpt:domain ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:domain DROP tcp -- anywhere 127.0.0.0/8 ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere state RELATED,ESTABLISHED ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere DROP all -- BASE-ADDRESS.MCAST.NET/4 anywhere PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere DROP all -- anywhere anywhere Chain FORWARD (policy DROP) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT all -- 192.168.0.0/24 anywhere ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere state RELATED,ESTABLISHED Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere Chain INT_IN (0 references) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere DROP all -- anywhere anywhere Chain INT_OUT (0 references) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere Chain PUB_IN (3 references) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp destination-unreachable ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp echo-reply ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp time-exceeded ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:domain ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:pop2 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:imap ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:http ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ftp-data ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ftp ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:pop3 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ssh ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:telnet ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:https ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:smtp ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:domain ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpt:domain ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpt:domain LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:telnet state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ftp state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:imap state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:pop3 state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:finger state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:sunrpc state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:exec state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:login state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:tacnews state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ssh state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' LOG udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpt:31337 state INVALID,NEW limit: avg 5/sec burst 8 LOG level warning prefix `audit' DROP icmp -- anywhere anywhere DROP all -- anywhere anywhere Chain PUB_OUT (3 references) target prot opt source destination REJECT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp destination-unreachable reject-with icmp-port-unreachable REJECT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp time-exceeded reject-with icmp-port-unreachable ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere ----------------------------------------- --- deadpoint wrote: > where you ever able to connect to the net using your > linux machine? > without that you'll never get the connection shaing > to work. does your > machine have 2 network cards? how are your NIC(s) > configured? send the > output from the following commands to the list. > > ifconfig -a > netstat -rn > cat /etc/resolv.conf > cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > ipchains -L > iptables -L > > umar wrote: > > >hi all, > > > >since my mandrake connection sharing system is not > >working (and no one was able to help me with that), > I > >am thinking about setting up a third party server > to > >share my cable connection with my roommates. I want > to > >know what are good proxy servers for linux that can > >handle upto 5 clients and support ftp, telnet, ssh > and > >various instant messengers. > > > >I have heard of squid but dont know how good or bad > it > >is. Any help in this regard would be appreciated. > > > >And NO I cannot buy a new box to act as a router. I > >have to do something using my own box. > > > >Umar > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > >http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From vlokstone at yahoo.com Mon May 27 13:32:32 2002 From: vlokstone at yahoo.com (vlok stone) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: what is a good proxy server In-Reply-To: <20020527151023.6969.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020527173232.18388.qmail@web10407.mail.yahoo.com> what are the client PCs gettting for addresses ? is dhcpd daemon running? chk in mandrake control under services ->if not command = service dhcpd start __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From umar99 at yahoo.com Mon May 27 19:35:44 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: what is a good proxy server In-Reply-To: <20020527173232.18388.qmail@web10407.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020527233544.14818.qmail@web11302.mail.yahoo.com> yes dhcpd is running --- vlok stone wrote: > > what are the client PCs gettting for addresses ? > is dhcpd daemon running? > chk in mandrake control under services > ->if not > command = service dhcpd start > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From umar99 at yahoo.com Mon May 27 19:35:17 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: what is a good proxy server In-Reply-To: <001501c20594$f71f0860$02fea8c0@pepsi> Message-ID: <20020527233517.42757.qmail@web11305.mail.yahoo.com> [root@siddiqi umar]# iptables -t nat -L Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination MASQUERADE all -- 192.168.0.0/24 anywhere Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination --- Todd Wirth wrote: > What's your output from: iptables -t nat -L > > -- Todd > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org > [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of > umar > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 11:10 AM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: Re: what is a good proxy server > > > offcourse my internet is working and i have two NIC. > Here are the outputs. They are different from what > mandrake generated for me since a friend of mine > came > yesterday and he reconfigured the iptables, but I > havent got a chance yet to test it on client > computers. > > ------------------------------------ > [root@siddiqi umar]# ifconfig -a > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr > 00:01:03:CE:8E:29 > inet addr:68.65.8.57 Bcast:68.65.9.255 > Mask:255.255.254.0 > UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MTU:1500 > Metric:1 > RX packets:305110 errors:3 dropped:0 > overruns:0 frame:3 > TX packets:19449 errors:0 dropped:0 > overruns:0 carrier:1 > collisions:266 txqueuelen:100 > RX bytes:76774520 (73.2 Mb) TX > bytes:2781753 (2.6 Mb) > Interrupt:3 Base address:0xdc00 > > eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr > 00:04:5A:45:B6:5E > inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 > > Mask:255.255.255.0 > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 > Metric:1 > RX packets:935 errors:0 dropped:0 > overruns:0 > frame:0 > TX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 > overruns:0 > carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 > RX bytes:109885 (107.3 Kb) TX bytes:2772 > (2.7 Kb) > Interrupt:11 Base address:0xd800 > > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > RX packets:1081 errors:0 dropped:0 > overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:1081 errors:0 dropped:0 > overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > RX bytes:73024 (71.3 Kb) TX bytes:73024 > (71.3 Kb) > ----------------------------------------- > > > > [root@siddiqi umar]# netstat -rn > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask > Flags > MSS Window irtt Iface > 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH > > 40 0 0 eth1 > 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U > > 40 0 0 eth1 > 68.65.8.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.254.0 U > > 40 0 0 eth0 > 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U > > 40 0 0 lo > 0.0.0.0 68.65.8.1 0.0.0.0 UG > > 40 0 0 eth0 > ------------------------------------------- > nameserver 24.48.33.2 > nameserver 24.48.33.3 > search buf.adelphia.net. > ----------------------------------------- > cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > 1[root@siddiqi umar]# ipchains -L > ipchains: Incompatible with this kernel > [root@siddiqi umar]# iptables -L > Chain INPUT (policy DROP) > target prot opt source destination > ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere > > udp spt:bootpc dpt:bootps > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp spt:bootpc dpt:bootps > ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere > > udp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc > ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere > > udp dpt:domain > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:domain > DROP tcp -- anywhere 127.0.0.0/8 > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > > state RELATED,ESTABLISHED > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > DROP all -- BASE-ADDRESS.MCAST.NET/4 > anywhere > PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere > PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere > PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere > DROP all -- anywhere anywhere > > Chain FORWARD (policy DROP) > target prot opt source destination > ACCEPT all -- 192.168.0.0/24 anywhere > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > > state RELATED,ESTABLISHED > > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) > target prot opt source destination > PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere > PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere > PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere > > Chain INT_IN (0 references) > target prot opt source destination > ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere > DROP all -- anywhere anywhere > > Chain INT_OUT (0 references) > target prot opt source destination > ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > > Chain PUB_IN (3 references) > target prot opt source destination > ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere > > icmp destination-unreachable > ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere > > icmp echo-reply > ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere > > icmp time-exceeded > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:domain > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:pop2 > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:imap > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:http > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:ftp-data > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:ftp > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:pop3 > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:ssh > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:telnet > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:https > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From todd at phyberoptiks.net Mon May 27 20:17:25 2002 From: todd at phyberoptiks.net (Todd Wirth) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: what is a good proxy server In-Reply-To: <20020527233517.42757.qmail@web11305.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001801c205dd$0b8f57d0$02fea8c0@pepsi> Try this really quickly: iptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING 1 iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE Then check your clients to see if they can get out. -- Todd -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of umar Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 7:35 PM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: RE: what is a good proxy server [root@siddiqi umar]# iptables -t nat -L Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination MASQUERADE all -- 192.168.0.0/24 anywhere Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination --- Todd Wirth wrote: > What's your output from: iptables -t nat -L > > -- Todd > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org > [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of > umar > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 11:10 AM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: Re: what is a good proxy server > > > offcourse my internet is working and i have two NIC. > Here are the outputs. They are different from what > mandrake generated for me since a friend of mine > came > yesterday and he reconfigured the iptables, but I > havent got a chance yet to test it on client > computers. > > ------------------------------------ > [root@siddiqi umar]# ifconfig -a > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr > 00:01:03:CE:8E:29 > inet addr:68.65.8.57 Bcast:68.65.9.255 > Mask:255.255.254.0 > UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MTU:1500 > Metric:1 > RX packets:305110 errors:3 dropped:0 > overruns:0 frame:3 > TX packets:19449 errors:0 dropped:0 > overruns:0 carrier:1 > collisions:266 txqueuelen:100 > RX bytes:76774520 (73.2 Mb) TX > bytes:2781753 (2.6 Mb) > Interrupt:3 Base address:0xdc00 > > eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr > 00:04:5A:45:B6:5E > inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 > > Mask:255.255.255.0 > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 > Metric:1 > RX packets:935 errors:0 dropped:0 > overruns:0 > frame:0 > TX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 > overruns:0 > carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 > RX bytes:109885 (107.3 Kb) TX bytes:2772 > (2.7 Kb) > Interrupt:11 Base address:0xd800 > > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > RX packets:1081 errors:0 dropped:0 > overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:1081 errors:0 dropped:0 > overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > RX bytes:73024 (71.3 Kb) TX bytes:73024 > (71.3 Kb) > ----------------------------------------- > > > > [root@siddiqi umar]# netstat -rn > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask > Flags > MSS Window irtt Iface > 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH > > 40 0 0 eth1 > 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U > > 40 0 0 eth1 > 68.65.8.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.254.0 U > > 40 0 0 eth0 > 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U > > 40 0 0 lo > 0.0.0.0 68.65.8.1 0.0.0.0 UG > > 40 0 0 eth0 > ------------------------------------------- > nameserver 24.48.33.2 > nameserver 24.48.33.3 > search buf.adelphia.net. > ----------------------------------------- > cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > 1[root@siddiqi umar]# ipchains -L > ipchains: Incompatible with this kernel > [root@siddiqi umar]# iptables -L > Chain INPUT (policy DROP) > target prot opt source destination > ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere > > udp spt:bootpc dpt:bootps > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp spt:bootpc dpt:bootps > ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere > > udp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc > ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere > > udp dpt:domain > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:domain > DROP tcp -- anywhere 127.0.0.0/8 > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > > state RELATED,ESTABLISHED > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > DROP all -- BASE-ADDRESS.MCAST.NET/4 > anywhere > PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere > PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere > PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere > DROP all -- anywhere anywhere > > Chain FORWARD (policy DROP) > target prot opt source destination > ACCEPT all -- 192.168.0.0/24 anywhere > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > > state RELATED,ESTABLISHED > > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) > target prot opt source destination > PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere > PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere > PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere > > Chain INT_IN (0 references) > target prot opt source destination > ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere > DROP all -- anywhere anywhere > > Chain INT_OUT (0 references) > target prot opt source destination > ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > > Chain PUB_IN (3 references) > target prot opt source destination > ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere > > icmp destination-unreachable > ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere > > icmp echo-reply > ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere > > icmp time-exceeded > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:domain > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:pop2 > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:imap > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:http > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:ftp-data > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:ftp > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:pop3 > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:ssh > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:telnet > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > tcp dpt:https > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From umar99 at yahoo.com Mon May 27 20:42:31 2002 From: umar99 at yahoo.com (umar) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: what is a good proxy server [IT WoRKS!] In-Reply-To: <001801c205dd$0b8f57d0$02fea8c0@pepsi> Message-ID: <20020528004231.21421.qmail@web11302.mail.yahoo.com> well its working now... thanx everyone for your help. umar --- Todd Wirth wrote: > Try this really quickly: > > iptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING 1 > iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE > > Then check your clients to see if they can get out. > -- Todd > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org > [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of > umar > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 7:35 PM > To: nflug@nflug.org > Subject: RE: what is a good proxy server > > > > [root@siddiqi umar]# iptables -t nat -L > Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT) > target prot opt source destination > > Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT) > target prot opt source destination > MASQUERADE all -- 192.168.0.0/24 anywhere > > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) > target prot opt source destination > > > > --- Todd Wirth wrote: > > What's your output from: iptables -t nat -L > > > > -- Todd > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-nflug@nflug.org > > [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org]On Behalf Of > > umar > > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 11:10 AM > > To: nflug@nflug.org > > Subject: Re: what is a good proxy server > > > > > > offcourse my internet is working and i have two > NIC. > > Here are the outputs. They are different from what > > mandrake generated for me since a friend of mine > > came > > yesterday and he reconfigured the iptables, but I > > havent got a chance yet to test it on client > > computers. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > [root@siddiqi umar]# ifconfig -a > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr > > 00:01:03:CE:8E:29 > > inet addr:68.65.8.57 Bcast:68.65.9.255 > > Mask:255.255.254.0 > > UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING > MTU:1500 > > Metric:1 > > RX packets:305110 errors:3 dropped:0 > > overruns:0 frame:3 > > TX packets:19449 errors:0 dropped:0 > > overruns:0 carrier:1 > > collisions:266 txqueuelen:100 > > RX bytes:76774520 (73.2 Mb) TX > > bytes:2781753 (2.6 Mb) > > Interrupt:3 Base address:0xdc00 > > > > eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr > > 00:04:5A:45:B6:5E > > inet addr:192.168.0.1 > Bcast:192.168.0.255 > > > > Mask:255.255.255.0 > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 > > > Metric:1 > > RX packets:935 errors:0 dropped:0 > > overruns:0 > > frame:0 > > TX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 > > overruns:0 > > carrier:0 > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 > > RX bytes:109885 (107.3 Kb) TX > bytes:2772 > > (2.7 Kb) > > Interrupt:11 Base address:0xd800 > > > > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > > RX packets:1081 errors:0 dropped:0 > > overruns:0 frame:0 > > TX packets:1081 errors:0 dropped:0 > > overruns:0 carrier:0 > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > > RX bytes:73024 (71.3 Kb) TX bytes:73024 > > (71.3 Kb) > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > [root@siddiqi umar]# netstat -rn > > Kernel IP routing table > > Destination Gateway Genmask > > Flags > > MSS Window irtt Iface > > 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH > > > > > 40 0 0 eth1 > > 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U > > > > > 40 0 0 eth1 > > 68.65.8.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.254.0 U > > > > > 40 0 0 eth0 > > 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U > > > > > 40 0 0 lo > > 0.0.0.0 68.65.8.1 0.0.0.0 UG > > > > > 40 0 0 eth0 > > ------------------------------------------- > > nameserver 24.48.33.2 > > nameserver 24.48.33.3 > > search buf.adelphia.net. > > ----------------------------------------- > > cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > > 1[root@siddiqi umar]# ipchains -L > > ipchains: Incompatible with this kernel > > [root@siddiqi umar]# iptables -L > > Chain INPUT (policy DROP) > > target prot opt source > destination > > ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere > > > > > udp spt:bootpc dpt:bootps > > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > > > > tcp spt:bootpc dpt:bootps > > ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere > > > > > udp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc > > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > > > > tcp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc > > ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere > > > > > udp dpt:domain > > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere > > > > > tcp dpt:domain > > DROP tcp -- anywhere > 127.0.0.0/8 > > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > > > > > state RELATED,ESTABLISHED > > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > > DROP all -- BASE-ADDRESS.MCAST.NET/4 > > anywhere > > PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere > > PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere > > PUB_IN all -- anywhere anywhere > > DROP all -- anywhere anywhere > > > > Chain FORWARD (policy DROP) > > target prot opt source > destination > > ACCEPT all -- 192.168.0.0/24 anywhere > > ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere > > > > > state RELATED,ESTABLISHED > > > > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) > > target prot opt source > destination > > PUB_OUT all -- anywhere anywhere > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From sonofrage at yahoo.com Wed May 29 01:30:31 2002 From: sonofrage at yahoo.com (Samuel Morales Jr.) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: setting up common location for mozilla bookmarks and email In-Reply-To: <20020523193419.37360.qmail@web11306.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020529053034.73194.qmail@web14207.mail.yahoo.com> What I do is store my bookmarks somewhere else. I use Yahoo Bookmarks. This way, no matter where I am, I can access my bookmarks. --- umar wrote: > hi there, > > can someone guide me on how to set up the bookmarks > of > mozilla in such a way that both windows and linux > versions of mozilla can access same bookmarks > (obviously they would store somewhere in windows > partition but dont know exactly where and how). > Also, > I would like to do same for emails so that I can > access my email account no matter which OS I am > running. > > Umar > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Thu May 30 10:55:35 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: Libretto 100CT Message-ID: <1022770535.26133.9.camel@polo> Hello Everyone, I've got a little bit of a favor to ask. Since we're all pretty local, I have a libretto 100Ct, it's a tiny little laptop, no CD or floppy they're all external. However I don't have a CD or Floppy for it, and it's some kind of PCMCIA floppy. It's like $99 to order. What I want to do is put redhat on it and make it a little networked MP3 player, however I need a floppy or CD to boot with. Does anyone have this laptop or a similar model that would let me borrow a cd or floppy (can do net install), I only need it for the install.... Justin -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Dynabrade using MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From green_man at bluefrognet.net Thu May 30 20:35:44 2002 From: green_man at bluefrognet.net (S. Lawton ) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: Legacy Parts In-Reply-To: <002601c20031$32a0ed40$f43afea9@celeronbox> Message-ID: <3CF68D20.14723.B75BF5@localhost> On 20 May 2002, at 15:04, Ronald Maggio wrote, in part: [EDIT] ... or start up some kind of trading post here on the list for people who have a buy or sell list to offer other members. Just a thought? Also we can advertise somehow or someway to the public as to somewhere to sell or trade your stuff since legacy equipment is getting as hard to find as a hen's teeth. Not sure how this would work, because I know ZERO about web design, but possibly a page on the NFLUG website and a ma--- domo for the messaging ? My brother raises chickens- hen's teeth I might actually be able to get ! :-) Scott Registered Linux User 261118 From green_man at bluefrognet.net Thu May 30 20:35:44 2002 From: green_man at bluefrognet.net (S. Lawton ) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: meeting In-Reply-To: <20020520134027.59957.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> References: <1021746290.2355.10.camel@Office> Message-ID: <3CF68D20.16306.B75D58@localhost> On 20 May 2002, at 6:40, Robert Meyer wrote: > > If there's time, after the install. I'd like to have a shot at possibly > answering > some questions and demonstrating printer setups and a couple of > other things. We could use the installed machine for this since it > will be a totally clean machine so there will be no surprises. > Got to the MAY meeting late, and forgot to ask if it was discussed. Are we planning for the 16th ? I realize it's not a religious holiday, but I expect many of the members have or are fathers. I have a shipload of questions about sound, video [OpenGL?], modems, games [none of the linux games from the rpms work, but I did get Open Universe going] , and printer setup ,and I don't want to miss the install presentation. Scott Registered Linux User 261118 From green_man at bluefrognet.net Thu May 30 20:54:04 2002 From: green_man at bluefrognet.net (S. Lawton ) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: Meeting Postscript Message-ID: <3CF6916C.19160.C82645@localhost> PS: If anyone has Mandrake 8.2 on cd, how many disks is it ? Please make a copy and bring it, I'll pick up some cd-r's to to replace them. Thanks. Scott Registered Linux User 261118 From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Thu May 30 22:02:24 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: Legacy Parts References: <3CF68D20.14723.B75BF5@localhost> Message-ID: <3CF6D9B0.76235ABC@dynabrade.com> I can set something like this up if needs be, either on the NFLUG page, or my page. Let me know if anyone is interested. Maybe an an auction page. If anyone is interested in this, we could bring it up at the meeting. "S. Lawton" wrote: > On 20 May 2002, at 15:04, Ronald Maggio wrote, in part: > > [EDIT] > ... or start up some kind of trading post here on the list for > people who have a buy or sell list to offer other members. > Just a thought? Also we can advertise somehow or someway > to the public as to somewhere to sell or trade your stuff since > legacy equipment is getting as hard to find as a hen's teeth. > > Not sure how this would work, because I know ZERO about web > design, but possibly a page on the NFLUG website and a ma--- > domo for the messaging ? > > My brother raises chickens- > hen's teeth I might actually be able to get ! :-) > > Scott > > Registered Linux User 261118 > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Dynabrade using MailScanner, > and is believed to be clean. From Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com Fri May 31 11:06:19 2002 From: Anthony.Riga at searbrown.com (Riga, Anthony) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C4D@bu2102.searbrown.com> Does anyone know of a good ftp software that I can use for Redhat 7.3 to transfer my files to my Adelphias web page ftp server. I am running the KDE environment. I know there is a software called Cute Ftp that I used for windows but I dont think for Linux.. i would really want it for Linux I am 100% switched over now no longer a need for Winblows. From rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU Fri May 31 11:13:36 2002 From: rdege at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Robert Dege) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: your mail In-Reply-To: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C4D@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: Client -> try gftp (GUI) ftp (text) ncftp (text) > Does anyone know of a good ftp software that I can use for Redhat 7.3 to transfer my files to my Adelphias web page ftp server. I am running the KDE environment. I know there is a software called Cute Ftp that I used for windows but I dont think for Linux.. i would really want it for Linux I am 100% switched over now no longer a need for Winblows. > Dege So Many Things in Life Would Be Really Funny .... If They Weren't Happening To Me From bradbartram at wycol.com Fri May 31 11:34:26 2002 From: bradbartram at wycol.com (Bradley J. Bartram) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: In-Reply-To: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C4D@bu2102.searbrown.com> References: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C4D@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <200205311134.26783.bradbartram@wycol.com> I personally use gFTP under KDE on Mandrake. Or command line `ftp`. brad On Friday 31 May 2002 11:06 am, Riga, Anthony wrote: > Does anyone know of a good ftp software that I can use for Redhat 7.3 to > transfer my files to my Adelphias web page ftp server. I am running the KDE > environment. I know there is a software called Cute Ftp that I used for > windows but I dont think for Linux.. i would really want it for Linux I am > 100% switched over now no longer a need for Winblows. From jbielli at netsos.com Fri May 31 11:33:29 2002 From: jbielli at netsos.com (Joe Bielli) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: In-Reply-To: <200205311134.26783.bradbartram@wycol.com> Message-ID: <001001c208b8$83a0e6c0$07437fcf@CSOS.NETSOS.COM> A good console mode menu driven ftp client for linux would be 'nftp'. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nflug@nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug@nflug.org] On Behalf Of Bradley J. Bartram Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:34 AM To: nflug@nflug.org Subject: Re: I personally use gFTP under KDE on Mandrake. Or command line `ftp`. brad On Friday 31 May 2002 11:06 am, Riga, Anthony wrote: > Does anyone know of a good ftp software that I can use for Redhat 7.3 to > transfer my files to my Adelphias web page ftp server. I am running the KDE > environment. I know there is a software called Cute Ftp that I used for > windows but I dont think for Linux.. i would really want it for Linux I am > 100% switched over now no longer a need for Winblows. From peter at thecybersource.com Fri May 31 11:53:14 2002 From: peter at thecybersource.com (Cyber Source) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: In-Reply-To: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C4D@bu2102.searbrown.com> References: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C4D@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <1022860394.4913.38.camel@Office> I am big fan of gftp. On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 11:06, Riga, Anthony wrote: Does anyone know of a good ftp software that I can use for Redhat 7.3 to transfer my files to my Adelphias web page ftp server. I am running the KDE environment. I know there is a software called Cute Ftp that I used for windows but I dont think for Linux.. i would really want it for Linux I am 100% switched over now no longer a need for Winblows. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020601/7791a8b4/attachment-0001.html From justin.bennett at dynabrade.com Fri May 31 13:07:15 2002 From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com (Justin Bennett) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: What is an .rpm file? and how do you use it? In-Reply-To: <20020531163924.46680.qmail@web14202.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020531163924.46680.qmail@web14202.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1022864836.30729.15.camel@polo> On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 12:39, Joseph Lukasiewicz wrote: > > Hi, > > I came across a site that said they had a preconfigured (older Red Hat) kernel for an Alpha that had SMP and the Mylex DAC960 Controller. [Google search DEC Alpha DAC960 - it was late, I was bored] kernel-smp-2.2.17-14.alpha RPM > > > Q1) The file name is quite long ending in .rpm - What is this and how does it work? > It's a package file, it is the most common, and easy way to install programs on a linux system. There are GUI tools, kpackage, ect to install RPMS, or the command of rpm. you can install, uninstall, and upgrade RPMS easily. > Q2) How hard is it to "upgrade" from one level of linux to the next - say 6 to 7 on RedHat? > The easiest way is to get the new CD you want to upgrade to, and boot off of it, and run the upgrade install. It usually works pretty well.. Better than MS 'Upgrades' that makes you reinstall office and other software after... > Joe Lukasiewicz > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Dynabrade using MailScanner, > and is believed to be clean. > -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Bennett Red Hat Certified Engineer Network Administrator Dynabrade Inc. 8989 Sheridan Dr Clarence, NY 14031 716-631-0100 ext 215 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Dynabrade using MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From meyer_rm at yahoo.com Fri May 31 13:39:41 2002 From: meyer_rm at yahoo.com (Robert Meyer) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:55 2007 Subject: Meeting Postscript In-Reply-To: <3CF6916C.19160.C82645@localhost> Message-ID: <20020531173941.52796.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> It's three disks and I have them. --- "S. Lawton " wrote: > PS: > If anyone has Mandrake 8.2 on cd, how many disks is it ? > Please make a copy and bring it, I'll pick up some cd-r's to to > replace them. > Thanks. > > > Scott > > Registered Linux User 261118 ===== Bob Meyer Knightwing Communications, Inc. 36 Cayuga Blvd Depew, NY 14043 Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076 Meyer_RM@Yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From javabob at localnet.com Fri May 31 20:48:40 2002 From: javabob at localnet.com (Robert F. Stockdale IV) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:56 2007 Subject: FTP Client References: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C4D@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <3CF819E8.8030004@localnet.com> I like gftp as it works real nice and has a graphical interface. I haven't discovered a need as of yet for a commandline ftp client. Only problem is it crashes on my workstation once every 3 months or so. When I find time I'll download the source code and compile it from scratch. Hopefully it will be more stable then. Bob Riga, Anthony wrote: > Does anyone know of a good ftp software that I can use for Redhat 7.3 to transfer my files to my Adelphias web page ftp server. I am running the KDE environment. I know there is a software called Cute Ftp that I used for windows but I dont think for Linux.. i would really want it for Linux I am 100% switched over now no longer a need for Winblows. > > > From pvant67 at wnyip.net Fri May 31 21:51:56 2002 From: pvant67 at wnyip.net (peter) Date: Fri May 25 12:55:56 2007 Subject: ftp clients References: <46888C29BA2ED740938B53D24F303377063C4D@bu2102.searbrown.com> Message-ID: <3CF828BC.1030405@wnyip.net> my lazy choice: gftp or mozilla my traditiona choice: command line ftp and a few minutes if bash scripting. hope this helps. -- "Truly, if Te is strong in one, all one needs to do is sit on one's ass, and the corpse of one's enemy shall be carried past shortly." -- spotted somewhere on Usenet