Local Linux friendly ISP offer to NFLUG users

Robert F. Stockdale IV javabob at localnet.com
Sat Mar 23 16:47:44 EST 2002


Greg:
Have you ever heard of eff.org? They are currently fighting legislation 
that is attempting to and has taken many of our rights away. Such as the 
SSSCA which if passed would make use of open source software illegel. 
You might check out there web site at:
	http://www.eff.org
Bob



Gregory J. Neumann wrote:

> EULA - End User License Agreement - A binding legal contract that the hapless 
> consumer (End User) enters into with a commercial software company (Also known as 
> an "end user", but meaning something TOTALLY different! 8-O) by breaking the 
> seal/shrinkwrap on a commercial software product without being able to read first 
> and whose only recourse is to not use the product involved, reformatting the hard 
> drive and sacrificing a pigeon and two bullocks, but which cannot be returned 
> because said product was opened, voiding any return/refund privileges, which is 
> explicitly stated in the EULA, but cannot be read w/o opening the product (also 
> known as the "Catch 22 Clause"!).
> 
> Clauses include, but are not limited to:
> Use of your computer at any time by the software provider.
> "Leasing" of your computer's resources to third parties for what ever purpose and 
> at whatever times they deem needful.
> The right of the software provider to disable your computer at their discresition 
> any time and for any reason, especially if you refuse the "enhancements" to be 
> provided at a future date.
> The right to alter any terms of the EULA at any moment and enforce such terms 
> immediately without prior notification and/or consent and still have such terms be 
> binding.
> The right to confiscate your property, car, bank account or other assets as needed 
> or wanted.  This includes firstborn sons and/or other offspring if there's a market 
> for them.
> The right to terminate, without prejudice or warning, your life or any relative if 
> you speak / publish any negative comments, whether true or not, whether such 
> comments may prevent harm to another person or not, about the software covered by 
> the EULA.
> 
> I guess that covers the milder conditions. ;-)  Not that I mind licensing 
> agreements per se, but they've gotten more and more out of hand since I've been 
> using computers.  I don't like them, can you tell?  Simply being notified that by 
> breaking the seal, I agree to abide by all the clauses set forth in an electronic 
> format on the media inside that sometimes can't be read w/o use of the product 
> doesn't seem very proper.  And I'm pretty sure that somewhere it says we can't be 
> forced to sign away our Constitutional Rights and have it be legally binding.  I 
> could be wrong.
> 
> -Greg
> p.s.  I hope nobody is offended by the outrageous embellishments! ;-)
> 
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>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: Joe Bielli 
>>  To: nflug at nflug.org 
>>  Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 6:20 PM
>>  Subject: RE: Local Linux friendly ISP offer to NFLUG users
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>>      Ehehe J You sound like an EULA sometimes J no big deal, thanks
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>>      Please explain what is an EULA?
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>>      The (opinions) of this lug's members are just that and no more! 
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>>      Ron
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