My Irate rantings

[Charles Rishel]

At 07:03 PM 12/20/02 -0500, you wrote:

>It also comes to mind by Chaz's comments here that he wrote me once
>before about being careful about email message intentions, and it comes
>to mind that it was about Ron Maggio.
>I then can remember a rant that was going on between Ron and someone
>else.

Negative Ghostrider, the pattern is full.  My archives don't show Ron being 
involved in the "Is this group still alive?" thread of 12/03/02.  I don't 
recall anyone making mention of it until now.  I just emailed you 
personally, as I figured it was an unintentional miswording and let it go 
at that.  I just did not want anyone to be alienated by that form of statement.


>Ron, don't take offense to this but you need to chill.

I don't know Ron well enough to know if he needs to chill or not ;-)

>As with what Chaz is talking about in the paragraph below about a topic
>being discussed in the last 15 min of a meeting, it was.
>I was merely trying to keep a thread of a topic going that was already
>started. And, to point out that (now don't take offense again) if you
>were there, you would have known this.

Fair enough.. I was not there, so I wouldn't/didn't know that.  I just got 
the impression that it was not discussed as it seems a fairly common topic 
among the group emails..

>I am not bashing anyone but I also don't like it when my intentions are 
>being misread.

I am not trying to bash you either.  And I fully admit the quip about the 
customers was a completely unfair comment to make, and therefore I 
apologize for that.

>I offered my home to keep the meetings going and I really
>enjoy the company of all the members and to share our collective
>knowledge in a productive way.

I agree, as I stated, I feel that your offer to open up your home for the 
meetings was both generous and sincere.  I also do not want MY personal 
rantings to interfere with that, as that would be extremely unfair to the 
group as a whole.  It is just that this seems to be a recurring theme and 
as such has crawled under my skin.  I have a LOT of issues going on right 
now, and seem to fly off the handle fairly quickly of late, this is just 
one prime example.  I enjoy the group, and want to contribute as much as I 
can, but there are limitations that have been imposed on my abilities to 
interact more, unfortunately they are outside of my control at this time.


>I really don't care what the topics are
>about or who is doing them, as long as we keep them going, by meetings
>or by emails. I would like to see everyone at the meetings. mostly
>because I am taking the time to set aside my home and be here and I want
>to see the other members make the effort as well.

I understand where you are coming from, as I have tried to get others 
together for linux meetings here in my place in Olean.  Although many 
seemed to be "interested", and I would set aside other personal plans to 
accomodate, often there would be one other person besides myself.  It is 
frustrating, and I eventually scrapped the entire idea.  I just chalked it 
up as "their loss" and let it go at that.  And I WOULD like to make the 
meetings there, as it is MY loss that I cannot show up, but unfortunately I 
have to resolve some issues on my end before I can make that happen.

>NO OFFENSE TO THOSE
>THAT CAN'T MAKE IT!!!!
>'nuff said.

Agreed.. 'nuff said.

Chaz03

DISCLAIMER: No feelings were injured in the making of this email thread.  ;-)

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