Job Available: PHP/MySQL Developer NEEDED!

Joe Bielli jbielli at netsos.com
Thu Aug 8 11:55:45 EDT 2002


Exactly.. More or less it meant 'Linux-ONLY' people need not apply. Many
people are expert or near expert in Linux and other UNIX-like
environments, but we really need a PHP/MySql person. 
 
Generally people who know PHP/Mysql already have experience with Linux
anyhow (which is a HUGE plus!), and that's also why I posted it here.
 
Yes, I never had -any- intentions whatsoever to insult anyone's
expertise on Linux, so forgive me if I have. I feel horrible that there
was any question of insult to begin with..  (although I still think
Wayne's response was uncalled for)..
 
Thanks!
 
Joe Bielli
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nflug at nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug at nflug.org] On Behalf Of
Ronald K. Wechter
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 10:47 PM
To: nflug at nflug.org
Subject: Re: Job Available: PHP/MySQL Developer NEEDED!
 
I think the intention was to say "You dont have to be JUST a linux geek
to apply"  -- If Im wrong correct me - So this email was not insulting
it just was opening the offer to more than just linux people.... Right?

Gregory J. Neumann wrote:


Hey, Joe!
I'm not insulted.  
Unless I consider that part about Linux gurus need not apply, I can't
find anything vaguely 
insinuating in the whole letter.  I'm not qualified, so maybe I'm too
stupid to be insulted.  
Anyway, I hope this doesn't scare anybody away from posting cool
opportunities on this list!
 
What I'm happiest to hear about is that the meetings will still be
there!
 
-Greg
Self-styled Network Admin, (as Wyle E. Coyote would consider himself
one!)
but mostly a PITA! ;-)
 
  
Joe,
 
Your insinuation that anyone who is a member of this Linux list server
is unqualified for your job is insulting.  PHP & MYSQL?  You have got to
be kidding.
 
"Developing" today in high level languages such as Visual Basic, SQL
based, Power Builder,  ASP, etc. is relatively easy.  All of the heavy
lifting algorithms have been coded as objects called components and you
simply drag and drop them in or call them in from simple routines.
Then you wrap 
    
them in a little of your own code to initialize them at the right moment
or just customize their activity. This is the point of these languages.
To hide the difficult stuff so non-technical / math challenged
individuals can create something useful without the expense of hiring
professionals.
  
Most of the labor with these languages revolves around learning
(memorizing) the proprietary commands and, once an application is
written, trying to keep it stable in a multiuser, multipurpose LAN
environment.
 
The users of these languages are referred to as 'Component Assemblers',
not programmers but you will never convince them of that. Today everyone
refers to themselves as a developer and the word has lost it's meaning.
An example of a 'developer' is the person(s) who wrote MYSQL,  not the
people 
    
who use it.  The food chain is as follows:   Developer  >  Programmer >
Component Assembler > Script Kiddie > User
  
Working with the graphics design team?  You take their pictures and drop
them in the spot they want them in.  Then you might have to animate them
(if it isn't already prepackaged - see above) or have them perform
(flash, appear, disappear, rotate, etc) when some activity occurs.
Children are 
    
developing sophisticated web sites today which includes my very bright
14 year old nephew. 
  
The point is ............. the  job ain't all that.  If you think the
people who subscribe to this server are unqualified, how did you come to
the conclusion they would still be able to recognize someone who is?
 
Why don't you advertise this great job 'opportunity' on the list server
that the qualified people subscribe to and leave us poor Linux boobs
alone?   
You are right.   You need to go back to school.
 
Sincerely,
Wayne Melbrod
Unqualified Programmer/Analyst
Central Technology Division
Integrated Deposit Systems Department
M&T Bank
 
 
 
 
 
    
jbielli at netsos.com 08/07/02 11:09AM >>>
          
Hello Folks,
 
I'm going to be leaving Computer SOS to move on to greener pastures and
get my schooling finished, Friday is my last day.
I will, however, continue to maintain and administer our linux servers,
although remotely (no linux-only gurus need apply, there is no position
available).
 
I have given myself the daunting task of finding myself a replacement in
the web development field.. 
Qualified candidates MUST know PHP/MYSQL, be ready and willing to share
code samples, linux skills are a plus, however the job is mostly
application development / web design.
Candidates also must be comfortable coding large applications, picking
up others work where they left off (mine ?), meeting with the rest of
the web team, and working closely with graphic designers.
 
Salary is decent, and this is a nice atmosphere to work in. If you KNOW
someone who may be interested, have them get in contact with me ASAP via
email or by voice.
Decision will be made by Friday.
 
Please email resume's to jbielli at netsos.com   ..Thanks!
Voice calls, ask for Joe @ 635-0086
 
Note: this does not change the nflug meetings, I will still be here to
host them at our office on third Sundays (except August, of course)..
 
Joe Bielli
Software Development
Computer SOS, Inc.
1505 Cleveland Drive
Cheektowaga, NY 14225
E://jbielli@netsos.com 
P://716.635.0086
F://716.634.7692
 
 
 
 
    
 
 
 
  
 
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://www.nflug.org/pipermail/nflug/attachments/20020808/ab229ad5/attachment-0001.html


More information about the nflug mailing list