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Yea for me that would not work too well. I have 2 companies that I keep different records for and both have jobs and sub-jobs. Someday when I get time, I will play with it, it does kinda irk me that I have to go back to M$ just for that but I know I'm not alone, so the monopoly lives on..... for now anyway ;)
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On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 14:38, John R. Ghidiu wrote:
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<PRE><FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>ah. i get it now. crystal clear. i really dont think gdm supports this yet</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>(my search on google didnt turn anything up). but i can say that i went</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>from ms money to gnucash. pretty much so i didnt have to reboot so much.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>gnucash is decent for what i need it for (personal finance - just watching</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>where the money goes). the reporting features are much better in ms money,</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>but you CAN make your own reports in gnucash (not easily, though). also,</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>there is no bill minder yet (but its comming soon, according to the</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>website). the biggest dissapointment in gnucash is that there is no</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>separation of category and payee - in other words, the category IS the</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>payee.</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>for example, in ms money, you can have a transaction like:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>cost: $12.00 memo: beer payee: mobil (transit & 33) category:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>party</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>supplies</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>but in gnucash, it would look like:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>cost: $12.00 memo: beer category: party supplies:beer:mobil</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>(transit & 33)</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>which isnt too bad, but if you are particular about your categories, that</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>can be deceiving, esp. in reports. and it makes it impossible to to a</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>payee report (and expect the report to show accurate information).</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>consider that i also get my gas at mobil. i now have two</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>payees/categories: automobile:fuel:mobil:transit & 33 and party</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>supplies:beer:mobil:transit & 33.</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>but, like i said, its fine for what i use it for...</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>john</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>On 4 Oct 2002, Cyber Source wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> That is correct (except for the part about when you are done in windows,</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> when you restart from windows, you will the bet the lilo prompt on the</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> subsequent post). From the session manager for kdm you can select "show</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> boot options" and the relative lilo commands and map files. This way</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> when your at kdm and you want to restart and boot directly into windows</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> (without having to select it from the lilo screen) you can. just a handy</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> thing to have, i only go back into winblows for m$ money. Soon hope to</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> be using gnucash, although money would be a tough act to follow (need it</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> for the business)</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 12:32, John R. Ghidiu wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> i am pretty sure i am confused now. the normal order of operation is:</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> poweron/POST</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> load the boot manager (lilo)</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> select the OS (linux)</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> login (kdm)</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> do stuff</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> logout</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> shutdown/reboot/repeat as necessary</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> if i understand you, you are saying that kdm lets you boot into windows?</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> so, lilo boots up, you boot into linux, kdm starts, and you tell kdm that</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> you want to boot into windows. is that correct? then, your computer boots</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> back into linux (when you are done in windows)? am i missing something?</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> john</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> On 4 Oct 2002, Cyber Source wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > Not sure, but it has been in Mandrake since at least 8.1 and RedHat</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > since at least 7.3 or so. From KDM, I can boot directly into Windows or</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > whatever without having to wait and make a selection from the lilo</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > screen</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 11:31, John R. Ghidiu wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > so you are saying that kdm has an interface of sorts to lilo? what version</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > of kdm is this?</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > john</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > On 4 Oct 2002, Cyber Source wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > kdm does, if the boot options is selected, whatever is in lilo will be</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > an option</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 09:13, John R. Ghidiu wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > which is why i said i suspect that gdm does not allow this. seems to me</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > that this is the job of the boot loader, not the session manager, so</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > perhaps kde is just 'talking' to the boot loader (grub, lilo, etc.)...</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > thoughts?</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > john</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > On 4 Oct 2002, Cyber Source wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > In that file, just points to gdmsetup, when running that, I see no</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > choice to show dual boots</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 07:05, John R. Ghidiu wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > AFAIK, gdm does not allow this (but i am running the version that came</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > with ximian desktop 6 months ago). the config is in /usr/sbing/gdmconfig.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > john</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > I will probably put it back too, lol. I do like the ability to dual</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > boot from the kdm shutdown menu. gdm probably has a way to put this in,</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > where is the gui to config the gdm? Thanks</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > ----------------------------</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > John R. Ghidiu</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > john@rmdashrf.org</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > ----------------------------</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > John R. Ghidiu</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > john@rmdashrf.org</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> ></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> ></FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> ----------------------------</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> John R. Ghidiu</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> john@rmdashrf.org</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>John R. Ghidiu</FONT></FONT></I></PRE>
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