[nflug] Verizon dsl

Joe josephj at main.nc.us
Sun Feb 11 15:17:21 EST 2007


matt donovan wrote:
> you can change your /etc/resolv.conf my rotuer is setup to use non
> verizon dns servers level3's is 4.2.2.x
>
> On 2/6/07, *Joe* < josephj at main.nc.us <mailto:josephj at main.nc.us>> wrote:
>
>     matt donovan wrote:
>     > I asked the tech guy from verizon how ot set up the modem correctly
>     > sicne I'd rahter use a router all I did was turn off Nat on the
>     modem
>     > and that was all good. oh yeah I use level3 dns which is awesome
>     > compared to verizon's
>     >
>     > On 12/23/06, *Adam Laurich* < adam.cadpro at gmail.com
>     <mailto:adam.cadpro at gmail.com>
>     > <mailto:adam.cadpro at gmail.com <mailto:adam.cadpro at gmail.com>>>
>     wrote:
>     >
>     >     Thats one annoyance I found with Verizon, by default, you
>     had to
>     >     use their proprietary windows software to set it up.
>     >
>     >
>     >     On 12/23/06, *Tom Morgan* < samothyev at yahoo.com
>     <mailto:samothyev at yahoo.com>
>     >     <mailto: samothyev at yahoo.com <mailto:samothyev at yahoo.com>> >
>     wrote:
>     >
>     >        
>     http://netservices.verizon.net/portal/link/help/item&case=21510
>     <http://netservices.verizon.net/portal/link/help/item&case=21510>
>     >         <
>     http://netservices.verizon.net/portal/link/help/item&case=21510
>     <http://netservices.verizon.net/portal/link/help/item&case=21510>>
>     >
>     >         This should help.
>     >
>     >         ----- Original Message ----
>     >         From: Tom Morgan < samothyev at yahoo.com
>     <mailto:samothyev at yahoo.com>
>     >         <mailto:samothyev at yahoo.com <mailto:samothyev at yahoo.com>>>
>     >         To: nflug at nflug.org <mailto:nflug at nflug.org>
>     <mailto:nflug at nflug.org <mailto:nflug at nflug.org>>
>     >         Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 12:55:44 PM
>     >         Subject: Re: [nflug] Verizon dsl
>     >
>     >         I have a linksys router and had to use the dsl modem as a
>     >         bridge so that I could network all my systems. This has
>     to be
>     >         done becuase the nat for the dsl modem shares the same
>     network
>     >         as the linksys router. I can't seem to find the link I
>     used to
>     >         set this up but I had to change the router to PPOE and
>     set the
>     >         dsl modem to be used as a bridge. I will try to dig the link
>     >         up for the destructions and post it when I do.
>     >
>     >         ----- Original Message ----
>     >         From: Cyber Source < peter at thecybersource.com
>     <mailto:peter at thecybersource.com>
>     >         <mailto: peter at thecybersource.com
>     <mailto:peter at thecybersource.com>>>
>     >         To: nflug at nflug.org <mailto:nflug at nflug.org>
>     <mailto:nflug at nflug.org <mailto:nflug at nflug.org>>
>     >         Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 12:28:20 PM
>     >         Subject: Re: [nflug] Verizon dsl
>     >
>     >         Kyle Obear wrote:
>     >         > One other gotcha with Verizon DSL is that their DNS
>     servers
>     >         are terribly slow.  When I switched from Cable modem to
>     DSL, I
>     >         saw a HUGE drop in speed.  I was eventually able to
>     correlate
>     >         it to their DNS servers taking up to 20 seconds to
>     respond to
>     >         a DNS query.
>     >         >
>     >         > To fix this, I installed bind, and I use it as a
>     >         resolving/caching DNS server.  In my setup, my linux box
>     that
>     >         is connected to the DSL line is a dedicated Firewall
>     machine,
>     >         with another server inside my network running squidd and
>     >         bind.  Now my DSL is faster than my Cable Modem ever was.
>     >         >
>     >         > Also, since the LAN interface on their router is on a
>     >         192.167.x.x network, and my internal network is a 10.x.x.x
>     >         network, I use the 192.168.x.x network as a
>     >         > "poor man's" DMZ.  On the Verizon router, I have port
>     >         forwarding setup for 80 and 443 to a server in the DMZ,
>     while
>     >         other traffic (Vonage, etc) get's forwarded to my Linux
>     >         firewall and handled by IPTABLES.
>     >         >
>     >         > HTH,
>     >         > Kyle
>     >         >
>     >         >
>     >         >> -----Original Message-----
>     >         >> From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com
>     <mailto:justin.bennett at dynabrade.com>
>     >         <mailto: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com
>     <mailto:justin.bennett at dynabrade.com>>
>     >         >> Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:39:07 -0500
>     >         >> To: nflug at nflug.org <mailto:nflug at nflug.org> <mailto:
>     nflug at nflug.org <mailto:nflug at nflug.org>>
>     >         >> Subject: Re: [nflug] Verizon dsl
>     >         >>
>     >         >> Like Adelphia / Road Runner you will have a DSL modem
>     that
>     >         connects to
>     >         >> the phone line, then to your PC on the LAN side. Verizon
>     >         actually got
>     >         >> smart, and every modem I've seen them use are
>     actually NAT
>     >         firewalls as
>     >         >> well, your PC does not get the internet IP, but rather a
>     >         192.168.1.x (or
>     >         >> other internal only) address. This means you actually
>     >         manager their
>     >         >> modem if you want to forward port to  internal IPs. They
>     >         used to block
>     >         >> port 25 incoming for mail, but I remember working
>     around it
>     >         by putting a
>     >         >> port on the MX record for the domain I was using. I
>     think 80
>     >         was blocked
>     >         >> but I used 443 also.
>     >         >>
>     >         >> Since the modem is a NAT firewall you don't really
>     need to
>     >         use the
>     >         >> router, I've actually had some greif running a
>     netgear NAT
>     >         router in
>     >         >> conjunction with the Westell NAT DSL modem, some packet
>     >         dropping issues,
>     >         >> this all went away when I yanked the router and just
>     put in
>     >         a wireless
>     >         >> access point.
>     >         >>
>     >         >>
>     >         >> For installation:
>     >         >> The DSL modem will plug into any avaliable phone jack you
>     >         may have. So
>     >         >> if you have a phone jack where you want to put the modem
>     >         then your fine.
>     >         >> From there you can run ethernet (or do wireless to your
>     >         PCs). The big
>     >         >> pain is that on any other phones (or other phone type
>     >         device, tivos,
>     >         >> modems, faxes, ext) you need to put a DSL filter to
>     filter
>     >         out the DSL
>     >         >> signal. You obviously don't put this filter on the phone
>     >         jack you pluged
>     >         >> the DSL modem into.
>     >         >>
>     >         >> Justin
>     >         >>
>     >         >>
>     >         >> Justin Bennett
>     >         >> Network Administrator
>     >         >> Dynabrade Inc.
>     >         >> Clarence, NY
>     >         >> 716-631-0100
>     >         >>
>     >         >>
>     >         >>
>     >         >> anthonyriga wrote:
>     >         >>
>     >         >>> Where do you connect the modem too? DO i need to
>     >         >>> provide my own wires? I ordered the online do it your
>     >         >>> self. I wanna put the modem in my basement in my
>     >         >>> computer room what wires do I need to run? And from
>     >         >>> where? Any suggestions?
>     >         >>> --- David Mangani < buckettruckdave at gmail.com
>     <mailto:buckettruckdave at gmail.com>
>     >         <mailto:buckettruckdave at gmail.com
>     <mailto:buckettruckdave at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >         >>>
>     >         >>>
>     >         >>>
>     >         >>>> Hmmm,
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>> Sorry I sent that last message by mistake. Anyways,
>     >         >>>> I switched to
>     >         >>>> Verizon DSL a few months ago. It seems to work fine.
>     >         >>>> It is slightly
>     >         >>>> slower than cable, however,not alot of difference. I
>     >         >>>> did use a windows
>     >         >>>> PC to initially set up my account. Basically it was
>     >         >>>> just easier. Now
>     >         >>>> that the account is set up, I have used FC6, ubuntu
>     >         >>>> and now Debian on
>     >         >>>> it all without any trouble. It seems that to
>     >         >>>> initially set up and
>     >         >>>> activate the account windows is easier. Not sure if
>     >         >>>> it could be done
>     >         >>>> from the get go with Linux. I don't know if the
>     >         >>>> various ports are
>     >         >>>> available for use or not. I can only say that I
>     >         >>>> simply plug in my DSL
>     >         >>>> modem let the lights wink on and connect the
>     >         >>>> ethernet cable and it
>     >         >>>> simply works. No real complaints here.
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>> Dave
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>> On 12/22/06, David Mangani
>     >         >>>> < buckettruckdave at gmail.com
>     <mailto:buckettruckdave at gmail.com>
>     >         <mailto:buckettruckdave at gmail.com
>     <mailto:buckettruckdave at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>> Hello,
>     >         >>>>>
>     >         >>>>>
>     >         >>>>>
>     >         >>>>> On 12/22/06, anthonyriga < torrodimerda at yahoo.com
>     <mailto:torrodimerda at yahoo.com>
>     >         <mailto:torrodimerda at yahoo.com
>     <mailto:torrodimerda at yahoo.com>>>
>     >         >>>>>
>     >         >>>>>
>     >         >>>> wrote:
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>>> I have moved into the city and had RoadRunner
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>> before.
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>>> I am thinking of DSL. Are there any hitches in
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>> setting
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>>> up with Linux? I looked over some of old threads
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>> we
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>>> had to get some advice and I guess you need
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>> WIndows or
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>>> MAc to set it up with software. Thats odd if you
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>> are
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>>> hooking up a router to it which Im going to do.
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>> Do
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>>> they have port 80 open for web services? I know
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>> RR
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>>> dosent. I use 443 for web and also DDNS and
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>> sendmail
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>>> too. Any suggestions ? Storys? Advice? Should I
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>> just
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>
>     >         >>>>>> still use RR?
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>>>> Thanks!
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>>>>
>     >         >>>>>>
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>     >         I will second the dns notion! Verizon's dsl dns servers are
>     >         really bad.
>     >         One other thing I can't stand about dsl, actually adsl, is
>     >         there dhcp!
>     >         It is ridiculous, I've seen the IP's change by the hour!
>     >         Actually been
>     >         bumped offline while ssh'd into some boxes because the
>     freakin IP
>     >         changed. I never looked into it too much but they must have
>     >         their dhcp
>     >         servers set to expire on the hour. If it wasnt for the
>     bad dns
>     >         servers
>     >         and the hyper dhcp settings, dsl is great, the service
>     itself is
>     >         extremely reliable and fast.
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>     I know this is an old thread, but can you tell me how to select a
>     different DNS than the Verizon default?  I am running kubuntu
>     dapper as
>     an end user system (no servers turned on that aren't there by
>     default).
>
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