[nflug] Verizon DSL

Mon Jun 19 10:03:29 EDT 2006

I am a former Adelphia HSI internet customer that did the exact same thing that
you are contemplating.  My cable bill was about $120+, and I was not happy with
the level of service I was getting with the cable modem.

I was lucky enough to be living in one of the areas that supports 3.0Mb service,
so I signed up, and bundled service with DirecTV and Verizon for telephone -
this gives me about $8 per month per service savings.

To setup my Verizon DSL, all I did was walk through the connection process on
their CDROM on a Windows box.  After doing this, I reconnected my Linux based
firewall (RH 9, dual NIC, running MonMotha IPTABLES script heavily modified by
myself), and all is well.  I also have had bad experiences with Verizon's DNS
services, so I setup a resolving/caching BIND server, as well as a squid based
proxy with Dansguardian content filtering.

The result is that I have a very fast shared connection, which is further
improved by DNS and HTTP/S caching, and is also setup to protect my kids from
inadvertantly getting in trouble (I've heard there are some adult sites on the
internet).

HTH,
Kyle

Quoting David Mangani <buckettruckdave at gmail.com>:

> Thanks to those that replied. I am simply looking to save some money.
> My cable bill is like 122/ month with only bronse programming and HSI.
> I figure I can save about 40-50 per month going with verizon for HSI
> and backing down my programing level on the ole tube. Just wanted to
> be sure that DSL would be okay. I had read some confusing posts after
> googling. seems some people had a horrible time getting DSL to work
> with linux. yet others seemed to think it work out of the box. Just
> wanted some local input. I appreciate it. I have had pretty poor luck
> with adelphia anyways. My internet goes out at LEAST 3 times per
> month. I've had all the cabling replaced... I had 3 different modems
> installed. I have no idea why. It just plan is persnickety. I've had
> long spells where e-mail simply doesn't work. ( 3-7 days ) They are
> good with giving credit, but that isn't the point. I'm sure verison
> has/will have issues too, but at least I'll be paying less for those
> issues. Thanks again.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On 6/17/06, Cyber Source <peter at thecybersource.com> wrote:
> > robert at net261.com wrote:
> > > On 6/16/2006 10:29 PM, nflug at nflug.org wrote to ROBERT WOLFE:
> > >
> > > -> Hi all
> > > ->     I was looking for some input into using Verizon DSL with linux and
> > > -> also using it with a wired router. I have a windows box and a linux
> > > -> box I'd like to share this DSL line with. I am currently on adelphia
> > > -> using a wired router. I'd like to keep my hardware( router) and simply
> > > -> exchange the cable for the DSL. Is DSL linux friendly? Will it work
> > > -> with an off the shelf netgear router? Any input is welcome.
> > >
> > > Dave, stay with Adelphia.  I tried Verizon before coming to work for
> Adelphia
> > > and then switched to cable shortly thereafter.  Much happier.  I mean you
> > > can feel free to do what you want to, but I have to admit, Adelphia is
> much
> > > more Linux friendly in my opinion.
> > >
> > > - Robert Wolfe
> > > - Sysop, Net261.com BBS & Net261 Internet
> > > - Sloan, NY
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> > Talk like this is what starts false misconceptions. Whether it is DSL or
> > Cable makes no difference when it comes to Linux, Windows, MAC, UNIX,
> > whatever, it's all TCP/IP UDP and DNS. In particular your DSL will be
> > perfectly fine with Linux as opposed to Cable. Now, what will make a
> > difference and it will make all the difference in the world is, DNS. DSL
> > has notoriously bad DNS servers and they will make the DSL connection
> > seem slow and unresponsive. If it can't resolve the name in a timely
> > manner, you will not go anywhere and it will make your connection seem
> > slow. I know of Verizon's 2 main DNS servers (at least the once I see
> > get assigned via DHCP all the time) that are unbelievably bad. I have
> > had customers complain about there DSL connection and I would change
> > their DNS servers (like to ours) and the difference was instantaneously
> > faster. The customers are always amazed at this and the fact that
> > Verizon seems to be unaware or uncaring about it, like these DNS servers
> > are sitting in a closet somewhere and never monitored, who knows. And
> > for $14.95 per month for DSL, there is no comparison as far as I'm
> > concerned, DSL wins hands down.
> >   I do have one problem with DSL of late though and that is the way they
> > are handing out IP's via their DHCP pools. It is ridiculous, I see them
> > change IP's ALL the time, I've even seen it change from 1 hour to the
> > next (with no provoking mechanism) and at least daily. I don't see what
> > they are accomplishing with this but it is aggravating. And what makes
> > this even worse is, I had one guy send me an email the other day and it
> > got caught into my spam folders by spamassassin. Why you say? Part of
> > the points it scored to put it in there was increased because the
> > sending IP they had from their DSL was previously put into a black list
> > because someone was abusing services with that IP previously. I just
> > don't like the possibility that that can even happen, but something like
> > that could happen whether your on Cable or DSL. I suppose one good thing
> > out of the constant IP changing with DSL is, if you were assigned such
> > an offending IP, it wouldn't be long before it changed. Another score
> > for DSL.
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