[nflug] Verizon DSL

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Sat Jun 17 10:00:29 EDT 2006


robert at net261.com wrote:
> On 6/16/2006 10:29 PM, nflug at nflug.org wrote to ROBERT WOLFE:
>
> -> Hi all
> ->     I was looking for some input into using Verizon DSL with linux and
> -> also using it with a wired router. I have a windows box and a linux
> -> box I'd like to share this DSL line with. I am currently on adelphia
> -> using a wired router. I'd like to keep my hardware( router) and simply
> -> exchange the cable for the DSL. Is DSL linux friendly? Will it work
> -> with an off the shelf netgear router? Any input is welcome.
>
> Dave, stay with Adelphia.  I tried Verizon before coming to work for Adelphia 
> and then switched to cable shortly thereafter.  Much happier.  I mean you 
> can feel free to do what you want to, but I have to admit, Adelphia is much 
> more Linux friendly in my opinion.
>
> - Robert Wolfe
> - Sysop, Net261.com BBS & Net261 Internet
> - Sloan, NY 
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Talk like this is what starts false misconceptions. Whether it is DSL or 
Cable makes no difference when it comes to Linux, Windows, MAC, UNIX, 
whatever, it's all TCP/IP UDP and DNS. In particular your DSL will be 
perfectly fine with Linux as opposed to Cable. Now, what will make a 
difference and it will make all the difference in the world is, DNS. DSL 
has notoriously bad DNS servers and they will make the DSL connection 
seem slow and unresponsive. If it can't resolve the name in a timely 
manner, you will not go anywhere and it will make your connection seem 
slow. I know of Verizon's 2 main DNS servers (at least the once I see 
get assigned via DHCP all the time) that are unbelievably bad. I have 
had customers complain about there DSL connection and I would change 
their DNS servers (like to ours) and the difference was instantaneously 
faster. The customers are always amazed at this and the fact that 
Verizon seems to be unaware or uncaring about it, like these DNS servers 
are sitting in a closet somewhere and never monitored, who knows. And 
for $14.95 per month for DSL, there is no comparison as far as I'm 
concerned, DSL wins hands down.
  I do have one problem with DSL of late though and that is the way they 
are handing out IP's via their DHCP pools. It is ridiculous, I see them 
change IP's ALL the time, I've even seen it change from 1 hour to the 
next (with no provoking mechanism) and at least daily. I don't see what 
they are accomplishing with this but it is aggravating. And what makes 
this even worse is, I had one guy send me an email the other day and it 
got caught into my spam folders by spamassassin. Why you say? Part of 
the points it scored to put it in there was increased because the 
sending IP they had from their DSL was previously put into a black list 
because someone was abusing services with that IP previously. I just 
don't like the possibility that that can even happen, but something like 
that could happen whether your on Cable or DSL. I suppose one good thing 
out of the constant IP changing with DSL is, if you were assigned such 
an offending IP, it wouldn't be long before it changed. Another score 
for DSL.
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