[nflug] Mame Distribution

Jonathan Skulski jskulski at gmail.com
Fri Jun 9 10:08:24 EDT 2006


There is no right way to do it, just get it working.

On 6/9/06, Mark Musone <mmusone at shatterit.com> wrote:
>
> Release notes good. (although you'd think they'd have it right up there
> nice
> and big when you go to choose what version..but whatever)
>
> I read those dpkg-reconfigure. It's not "uhh..what does dpkg-reconfigure
> do"
> that's the easy part, it's what does it do and what files are looked at
> for
> the reconfiguration. i.e. when you do a dpkg-reconfigure for the kernel,
> exactly what is done and what files are looked at. Whats the point of
> having
> an easy way to reconfigure something when you don't know how to specify
> the
> configuration.
>
> Removing usplash doesn't make nvidiafb load up. I'm not saying this to be
> challenging, but more because I'm seriously interested in the "right" way
> to
> do it. So if anybody can go ahead and try and make it so that nvidiafb
> gets
> loaded upon bootup, and not vesafb I'd be very interested.
>
> -Mark
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nflug-bounces at nflug.org [mailto:nflug-bounces at nflug.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Jesse Jarzynka
> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 9:50 AM
> To: nflug at nflug.org
> Subject: Re: [nflug] Mame Distribution
>
> Mark Musone wrote:
> > 1. simply figuring out what version to user: ubuntu server or
> workstation...hrmm.wheres the list of software or a comparison of
> features...
> If you read the release notes for any of the versions at
> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/ :
>
> *Desktop*
>
> A standard desktop box, including a full desktop environment, sound,
> office suite, email clients, etc. You'll need about 3 gigabytes of hard
> drive space.
>
> *Server*
>
> This is a small server profile, which provides a common base for all
> sorts of server applications. It's minimal and designed to have the
> desired services added on top, such as file/print services, web hosting,
> email hosting, etc. For these services at least 500MB of disk space will
> suffice, but consider adding more space depending on the services you'd
> like to host with your server.
>
> > after installing server, thinking oh, well server should have
> _everything_. i install 'server'. reboot. Grub error 18. you've got to be
> kidding me. my new 300G drive. you've got to be kidding me, no /boot or
> even
> the kernel file at the beginnign of the disk?? how linux 101 is that? so
> after reinstalling 2 more times to get a /boot working correctly, I smile
> in
> blissful agony when the kernel starts booting up.
> >
> > I sat there wondering why after the install and reboot i was sitting at
> a
> command line login prompt.
> > Hrm..thats strange. Oh well, no biggie i'll login and start X. startx.
> xinit. X. WTF it didn't even install X ????????????
> > bah. musta been a bad install on my part. let me try to find X
> somewhere..must not be in my path, sudo tcsh. tcsh sudo tcsh.WTF no
> tcsh!!!
> no gawk?! wtf is even on this install, 2 programs!!
> > So after 4 additional installs thinking _something_ must be wrong
> because
> even command line programs nowadays require X libraries, and after
> spending
> 2 hours trying to see what the difference is between "server" and
> "workstation", I give up and start installing workstation. Yay! finally. I
> got my /boot _and_ an X server, who woulda thunk it!!
> >
> >
> > 1. getting wireless to work (zd1211ib) ...typical kernel recompile. this
> was actually the easiest thing after 8 bazillion lines of non-intuitive
> and
> non documented steps:
> >
> > take a look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto
> > you've got to be kidding me..for compiling a simple kernel??? I'm
> suprised
> I also don't have to give up my first born son.
> >
> > 2. _removing_ gdm. In the end, i'm running framebuffer and cannot be in
> X.
> hah! good luck. I turn off "gdm" in the Administration->Services tab.
> Seems
> simple enough. I turn off that service and X immediately dies. "Oh kool.
> it
> worked!!! I'm not in X!" Reboot-----> gdm and X starts. I give up and
> chmod
> -x the gdm file in /etc/init.d. now i get lovely complaints on bootup, but
> no X yay!!! :)
> >
> Why didn't you just REMOVE gdm??? Or try installing BUM or sysv-rc-conf
> and configure the services a little better. Why is it Ubuntu's fault you
> don't know how to stop services in debian based distros? Take your time,
> and ask questions instead of freaking out when things don't work. That's
> what ubuntuforums are for.
> > 3. removing vesafb from loading and instead loading up nvifiafb upon
> bootup. Hah! good luck! it's compiled right into initrd image. ubuntu has
> to
> have it's kool splashscreen. add nosplash to grub and it won;t load any
> framebuffer. After spending about 5 hours trackign this down, becuase my
> hommade initrd versions werent working either, finally found the magic
> files
> (/etc/modules.d/modules-blacklist, /lib/modules/initrd...and a half dozen
> other files), found the incantation of dpkg-reconfig linux-image-`uname
> -r`
> to actually make the initrd and install it. where the heck is there even
> documentation on what dpkg-reconfig does for all important packages, or
> what
> files are used for what. oh, to change X stuff, no problem, change
> mystical
> undocumented X files, and run dpkg-reconfigure xorg. WTF WHERES THE
> DOCS!!!
> >
> Why didn't you just REMOVE usplash???
>
> A quick Google on dpkg-reconfigure -
>
> "Software contained in Debian
> <http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Debian> packages which make use of
> debconf <http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Debconf> can usually be
> configured by running
>
> dpkg-reconfigure /package_name/
>
> rather than by hand-editing config files."
>
> > ..and i still have more things i need to get working, like when i
> install
> the mythtv package and it doesn't come with mythtv-setup.WTF.
> >
> Yeah it does...try this http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html
> >
> > Gah!!!
> >
> Sounds like you definitely have a bad CD. Is this the same CD we had at
> a meeting a few months ago that we couldn't install either? Wasn't that
> like Warty, which is 2 releases ago?? Wireless works fine over here, you
> don't have to recompile any kernels.
> --
> Jesse Jarzynka
> Cyber Source
> http://www.jessejoe.com/
> http://www.thecybersource.com/
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