[nflug] Mame Distribution

Jesse Jarzynka denisesballs at thecybersource.com
Fri Jun 9 09:50:05 EDT 2006


Mark Musone wrote:
> 1. simply figuring out what version to user: ubuntu server or workstation...hrmm.wheres the list of software or a comparison of features...
If you read the release notes for any of the versions at 
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/ :

*Desktop*

A standard desktop box, including a full desktop environment, sound, 
office suite, email clients, etc. You'll need about 3 gigabytes of hard 
drive space.

*Server*

This is a small server profile, which provides a common base for all 
sorts of server applications. It's minimal and designed to have the 
desired services added on top, such as file/print services, web hosting, 
email hosting, etc. For these services at least 500MB of disk space will 
suffice, but consider adding more space depending on the services you'd 
like to host with your server.

> after installing server, thinking oh, well server should have _everything_. i install 'server'. reboot. Grub error 18. you've got to be kidding me. my new 300G drive. you've got to be kidding me, no /boot or even the kernel file at the beginnign of the disk?? how linux 101 is that? so after reinstalling 2 more times to get a /boot working correctly, I smile in blissful agony when the kernel starts booting up.
>   
> I sat there wondering why after the install and reboot i was sitting at a command line login prompt.
> Hrm..thats strange. Oh well, no biggie i'll login and start X. startx. xinit. X. WTF it didn't even install X ????????????
> bah. musta been a bad install on my part. let me try to find X somewhere..must not be in my path, sudo tcsh. tcsh sudo tcsh.WTF no tcsh!!! no gawk?! wtf is even on this install, 2 programs!!
> So after 4 additional installs thinking _something_ must be wrong because even command line programs nowadays require X libraries, and after spending 2 hours trying to see what the difference is between "server" and "workstation", I give up and start installing workstation. Yay! finally. I got my /boot _and_ an X server, who woulda thunk it!!
>
>
> 1. getting wireless to work (zd1211ib) ...typical kernel recompile. this was actually the easiest thing after 8 bazillion lines of non-intuitive and non documented steps:
>
> take a look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto
> you've got to be kidding me..for compiling a simple kernel??? I'm suprised I also don't have to give up my first born son.
>
> 2. _removing_ gdm. In the end, i'm running framebuffer and cannot be in X. hah! good luck. I turn off "gdm" in the Administration->Services tab. Seems simple enough. I turn off that service and X immediately dies. "Oh kool. it worked!!! I'm not in X!" Reboot-----> gdm and X starts. I give up and chmod -x the gdm file in /etc/init.d. now i get lovely complaints on bootup, but no X yay!!! :)
>   
Why didn't you just REMOVE gdm??? Or try installing BUM or sysv-rc-conf 
and configure the services a little better. Why is it Ubuntu's fault you 
don't know how to stop services in debian based distros? Take your time, 
and ask questions instead of freaking out when things don't work. That's 
what ubuntuforums are for.
> 3. removing vesafb from loading and instead loading up nvifiafb upon bootup. Hah! good luck! it's compiled right into initrd image. ubuntu has to have it's kool splashscreen. add nosplash to grub and it won;t load any framebuffer. After spending about 5 hours trackign this down, becuase my hommade initrd versions werent working either, finally found the magic files (/etc/modules.d/modules-blacklist, /lib/modules/initrd...and a half dozen other files), found the incantation of dpkg-reconfig linux-image-`uname -r` to actually make the initrd and install it. where the heck is there even documentation on what dpkg-reconfig does for all important packages, or what files are used for what. oh, to change X stuff, no problem, change mystical undocumented X files, and run dpkg-reconfigure xorg. WTF WHERES THE DOCS!!!
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Why didn't you just REMOVE usplash???

A quick Google on dpkg-reconfigure -

"Software contained in Debian 
<http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Debian> packages which make use of 
debconf <http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Debconf> can usually be 
configured by running

dpkg-reconfigure /package_name/

rather than by hand-editing config files."

> ..and i still have more things i need to get working, like when i install the mythtv package and it doesn't come with mythtv-setup.WTF.
>   
Yeah it does...try this http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html
>
> Gah!!!
>   
Sounds like you definitely have a bad CD. Is this the same CD we had at 
a meeting a few months ago that we couldn't install either? Wasn't that 
like Warty, which is 2 releases ago?? Wireless works fine over here, you 
don't have to recompile any kernels.
-- 
Jesse Jarzynka
Cyber Source
http://www.jessejoe.com/
http://www.thecybersource.com/
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