[nflug] Ubuntu question (Backing Up your media for fair use)

[JJ Neff]

dvdshrink by itself doesn't always handle "special" circumstances (eg where the
disk maker may have made specific false VOBs to avoid ripping or other equally
devious stuff).  Once dvdbackup rips to disk the disk is already ripped with
all protection removed - sometimes (and I repeat sometimes) dvdshrink can't
handle certain protections and so by ripping the disk first (dvdbackup) then
dvdshrinking I always get the result I want - also I tend to have far more
difficulty than you seem to getting the drives to work correctly under apps
running in Wine.  

For example forget about getting DVDDecrypter (Win application)working
correctly under Wine- some I know have but I can't seem to get it just right.

I have yet to do a stopwatch test to see if dvdbackup rip then dvdshrink recode
works faster thatn a dvdshrink rip/recode all in one.  Seems they are about the
same.  Have to look into that one.  The biggest thing for me is that dvdshrink
has had trouble with dvd protect schemes and I avoid that by ripping first.

YMMV :-)

JJN
--- Dave Andruczyk <djandruczyk at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> --- JJ Neff <jjneff at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > I can do this now blindfolded (well as long as I can see the keyboard:-)
> > 1. dvdbackup to back up the full disk ( I reuse the same cmd line and jsut
> > change the output dir
> > dvdbackup -M -i/dev/hdd -n<NAMEOFMOVIE> -o /opt/vault (your location may
> > vary)
> > 
> > 2. dvdshrink in wine to either turn movie only or menus and movies into iso
> > depends on size of movie, if I want Spanish language or how many subs etc
> > 
> 
> faster method:  doesn't need dvdbackup to be run.
> first:  in ~/.wine/dosdevices. you need two symlinks for your CDrom drive. 
> the
> first (let's assume your CDrom under wine is "d:")  you need a symlink called
> "d:" that points to the MOUNTPOINT of your cdrom (in my case, it's /dev/dvd) 
> The next symlink is called "d::" (notice the double colon)  this points to
> the
> PHYSICAL DEVICE under /dev,  so for me that's /dev/hda (I'm all scsi so my
> first IDE cdrom is hda,  for most users this is probbaly hdc)
> 
> so in ~/.wine/dosdevices I have:
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 dave users    8 Jan  7 17:19 d: -> /mnt/dvd
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 dave users    8 Jan  7 19:28 d:: -> /dev/hda
> 
> The next and MOST IMPORTANT STEP.  for getting dvdshrink to work under wine, 
> is you MUST MUST MUST have hte DVD you want to backup MOUNTED before you run
> dvdshrink otherwise it'll bitch saying it can't find it.  Once mounted, click
> on Open Disc and it should find your dvd,  then you can let it do the
> pre-analyze (takes about 3-4 minutes) and then select what you want to copy
> over and let it run.  On my dual athlon 1.2Ghz box a DVD backup with shrink
> to
> fit a DVD 4.7 .iso takes about 45 minutes.
> 
> Once done I use a similar growisofs command below which works great.
> 
> 
> 
> > I have menu shortcuts for this and other win apps I run in wine so to me
> they
> > are seamless
> > 
> > 3. burn to disk with growisofs or gnomebaker if I feel GUI
> > 
> > growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=8 -Z /dev/hdc=/opt/vault/MOVIE.ISO
> > *************
> > 
> > I used Xdvdshrink for a time to stay linux only but it only grabbed one
> lang
> > and one sub and most of the time I want 2 languages and all subs, also the
> > dependencies and versioning started getting irritating.  The author is a
> fine
> > person (answered mail and was happy to receive input) and when it is as
> easy
> > and as "intelligent" about the movie as dvdshrink is I'll happily use it.
> > 
> > The whole tutorial is at http://www.madcarters.com/content/view/10/95/
> > Debian specific tutorials but they apply to most others.  Other tutorials
> > there
> > are good as well.
> > 
> 
> Dave J. Andruczyk
> 
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