[nflug] Verizon dsl

Sat Dec 23 13:40:31 EST 2006

Thats one annoyance I found with Verizon, by default, you had to use their
proprietary windows software to set it up.

On 12/23/06, Tom Morgan <samothyev at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> http://netservices.verizon.net/portal/link/help/item&case=21510
>
> This should help.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tom Morgan <samothyev at yahoo.com>
> To: nflug at nflug.org
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 12:55:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [nflug] Verizon dsl
>
> I have a linksys router and had to use the dsl modem as a bridge so that I
> could network all my systems. This has to be done becuase the nat for the
> dsl modem shares the same network as the linksys router. I can't seem to
> find the link I used to set this up but I had to change the router to PPOE
> and set the dsl modem to be used as a bridge. I will try to dig the link up
> for the destructions and post it when I do.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Cyber Source <peter at thecybersource.com>
> To: nflug at nflug.org
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 12:28:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [nflug] Verizon dsl
>
> Kyle Obear wrote:
> > One other gotcha with Verizon DSL is that their DNS servers are terribly
> slow.  When I switched from Cable modem to DSL, I saw a HUGE drop in
> speed.  I was eventually able to correlate it to their DNS servers taking up
> to 20 seconds to respond to a DNS query.
> >
> > To fix this, I installed bind, and I use it as a resolving/caching DNS
> server.  In my setup, my linux box that is connected to the DSL line is a
> dedicated Firewall machine, with another server inside my network running
> squidd and bind.  Now my DSL is faster than my Cable Modem ever was.
> >
> > Also, since the LAN interface on their router is on a 192.167.x.xnetwork, and my internal network is a
> 10.x.x.x network, I use the 192.168.x.x network as a
> > "poor man's" DMZ.  On the Verizon router, I have port forwarding setup
> for 80 and 443 to a server in the DMZ, while other traffic (Vonage, etc)
> get's forwarded to my Linux firewall and handled by IPTABLES.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Kyle
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: justin.bennett at dynabrade.com
> >> Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:39:07 -0500
> >> To: nflug at nflug.org
> >> Subject: Re: [nflug] Verizon dsl
> >>
> >> Like Adelphia / Road Runner you will have a DSL modem that connects to
> >> the phone line, then to your PC on the LAN side. Verizon actually got
> >> smart, and every modem I've seen them use are actually NAT firewalls as
> >> well, your PC does not get the internet IP, but rather a 192.168.1.x(or
> >> other internal only) address. This means you actually manager their
> >> modem if you want to forward port to  internal IPs. They used to block
> >> port 25 incoming for mail, but I remember working around it by putting
> a
> >> port on the MX record for the domain I was using. I think 80 was
> blocked
> >> but I used 443 also.
> >>
> >> Since the modem is a NAT firewall you don't really need to use the
> >> router, I've actually had some greif running a netgear NAT router in
> >> conjunction with the Westell NAT DSL modem, some packet dropping
> issues,
> >> this all went away when I yanked the router and just put in a wireless
> >> access point.
> >>
> >>
> >> For installation:
> >> The DSL modem will plug into any avaliable phone jack you may have. So
> >> if you have a phone jack where you want to put the modem then your
> fine.
> >> From there you can run ethernet (or do wireless to your PCs). The big
> >> pain is that on any other phones (or other phone type device, tivos,
> >> modems, faxes, ext) you need to put a DSL filter to filter out the DSL
> >> signal. You obviously don't put this filter on the phone jack you
> pluged
> >> the DSL modem into.
> >>
> >> Justin
> >>
> >>
> >> Justin Bennett
> >> Network Administrator
> >> Dynabrade Inc.
> >> Clarence, NY
> >> 716-631-0100
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> anthonyriga wrote:
> >>
> >>> Where do you connect the modem too? DO i need to
> >>> provide my own wires? I ordered the online do it your
> >>> self. I wanna put the modem in my basement in my
> >>> computer room what wires do I need to run? And from
> >>> where? Any suggestions?
> >>> --- David Mangani <buckettruckdave at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hmmm,
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry I sent that last message by mistake. Anyways,
> >>>> I switched to
> >>>> Verizon DSL a few months ago. It seems to work fine.
> >>>> It is slightly
> >>>> slower than cable, however,not alot of difference. I
> >>>> did use a windows
> >>>> PC to initially set up my account. Basically it was
> >>>> just easier. Now
> >>>> that the account is set up, I have used FC6, ubuntu
> >>>> and now Debian on
> >>>> it all without any trouble. It seems that to
> >>>> initially set up and
> >>>> activate the account windows is easier. Not sure if
> >>>> it could be done
> >>>> from the get go with Linux. I don't know if the
> >>>> various ports are
> >>>> available for use or not. I can only say that I
> >>>> simply plug in my DSL
> >>>> modem let the lights wink on and connect the
> >>>> ethernet cable and it
> >>>> simply works. No real complaints here.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 12/22/06, David Mangani
> >>>> <buckettruckdave at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 12/22/06, anthonyriga <torrodimerda at yahoo.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> I have moved into the city and had RoadRunner
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> before.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> I am thinking of DSL. Are there any hitches in
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> setting
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> up with Linux? I looked over some of old threads
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> we
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> had to get some advice and I guess you need
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> WIndows or
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> MAc to set it up with software. Thats odd if you
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> are
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> hooking up a router to it which Im going to do.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> Do
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> they have port 80 open for web services? I know
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> RR
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> dosent. I use 443 for web and also DDNS and
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> sendmail
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> too. Any suggestions ? Storys? Advice? Should I
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> just
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> still use RR?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> I will second the dns notion! Verizon's dsl dns servers are really bad.
> One other thing I can't stand about dsl, actually adsl, is there dhcp!
> It is ridiculous, I've seen the IP's change by the hour! Actually been
> bumped offline while ssh'd into some boxes because the freakin IP
> changed. I never looked into it too much but they must have their dhcp
> servers set to expire on the hour. If it wasnt for the bad dns servers
> and the hyper dhcp settings, dsl is great, the service itself is
> extremely reliable and fast.
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