[nflug] uhoh tar backup ....uh hah!
eric
eric at bootz.us
Wed Aug 9 16:23:24 EDT 2006
the mysteryious -N file was a couple of failed tar backups that didn't
make it through ssh... so when ssh failed tar started writing this -N
file which was actually a tarball of my mega home directory
Thank all of you today for your help I will definitly keep quite for a
while and let someone else speak :)
Thank you,
Eric
eric wrote:
>dang no luck... the mysterious -N file didn't come back, but..
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>Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
>/dev/hdc3 251M 99M 138M 42% /
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>is happy now
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>eric wrote:
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>>I am using cron through a webmin interface to schedule the ssh backups I
>>wonder if that had anything to do with it ...I'll run the cron backup
>>tar now to see if it reappears.
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>>eric wrote:
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>>>yes, thank you.
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>>>anyway I found this strange -N file that wasn't recording it's size it
>>>seems maybe it was I don't know.
>>>
>>>the file -N was located in a /root/webmin/cron/-N
>>>it was 156M
>>>
>>>so I deleted it
>>>
>>>
>>>Robert Meyer wrote:
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>>>>OK, before this gets out of hand...
>>>>
>>>>Very little in /proc actually uses real disk space. The system creates files
>>>>that map to memory images. That is to say that if you have 2 gigs of virtual
>>>>memory that *is being used*, then /proc will look like it is using more than 2
>>>>gigs of disk space. This is phantom space. It's really your virtual memory
>>>>mapped to look like files. It's not *actually* using disk space. When
>>>>checking the disk usage on a system, it's a good idea to exclude /proc from the
>>>>list of directories to check.
>>>>
>>>>Does this clear anything up?
>>>>
>>>>Cheers!
>>>>Bob
>>>>
>>>>--- eric <eric at bootz.us> wrote:
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>>>>>/proc/kcore is at 805M
>>>>>
>>>>>joshj at linuxmail.org wrote:
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>>>>>>When we last left our adventurers...
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>>>>>>>well I thought I only had 500M but I guess that can't be right unless
>>>>>>>swap took over??
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>>>>>>I'm not 100% sure on this, but my understanding is that it is the size
>>>>>>of all used memory. swap and otherwise. So it should equal
>>>>>>the totals you get if you add up your used memory from the "free"
>>>>>>command.
>>>>>>Either way, it doesn't take up disk space. Nothing in /proc does.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>joshj at linuxmail.org wrote:
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>>>>>>>>When we last left our adventurers...
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>ok this seems strange "/proc" is 775M
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>any clues?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>How much RAM do you have? Its probably mostly kcore.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.unixguide.net/linux/faq/04.16.shtml
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>Mark Musone wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It is taking so long because "*" in / will also match and count the
>>>>>>>>>>files in
>>>>>>>>>>/home,/tmp,/usr, and /var.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Manually put in the directory names, omitting those directories that
>>>>>>>>>>are on
>>>>>>>>>>other disks:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>In the following case of my / directory:
>>>>>>>>>>-bash-2.05b# ls
>>>>>>>>>>bin boot dev etc home initrd lib local lost+found mnt
>>>>>>>>>>mnt2 proc
>>>>>>>>>>root sbin tftpboot tmp usr var
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"du -sk bin boot etc initrd lib local mnt mnt2 root sbin"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It'd be a lot faster.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Same thing with "find", issue the -xdev option to stay in just the /
>>>>>>>>>>filesystem
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"find / -xdev -size +100K" ...etc..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>-Mark
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>From: nflug-bounces at nflug.org [mailto:nflug-bounces at nflug.org] On
>>>>>>>>>>Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>eric
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:21 PM
>>>>>>>>>>To: nflug at nflug.org
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nflug] uhoh
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>the commands are working so incredibly slow I decieded to delete some
>>>>>>>>>>"safe stuff" I have a webmin directory in /root that has been
>>>>>>>>>>their all
>>>>>>>>>>along so I started to get rid of some files and the commands "find"
>>>>>>>>>>"du"
>>>>>>>>>>are still moving like snails, I tried du -s * from the / dir ...it
>>>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>been running for a half hour so I zapped it with ctrl z and tried to
>>>>>>>>>>delete some more stuff out the webmin dir. So, I have a new
>>>>>>>>>>question:
>>>>>>>>>>could something on the system be creating a file or files
>>>>>>>>>>constantly or
>>>>>>>>>>can the 251M that was alotted over spill on the / dir and I have to
>>>>>>>>>>delete down to 251M like memory is waiting to write to the hard
>>>>>>>>>>drive?
>>>>>>>>>>I slap my hands everytime I think I want to just restart the server
>>>>>>>>>>typical windows brainwashing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>Eric
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Darin Perusich wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>or it could be /root.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>David J. Andruczyk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>cd / ; du -s *
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Odds are it's /lib/modules filled up if you have several kernels
>>>>>>>>>>>>installed..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>--- eric <eric at bootz.us> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>File system Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>/dev/hdc3 251M 251M 0 100% /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>tmpfs 758M 4.0K 758M 1% /dev/shm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>/dev/hdc8 101G 12G 85G 12% /home
>>>>>>>>>>>>>/dev/hdc7 358M 8.1M 331M 3% /tmp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>/dev/hdc4 4.6G 516M 3.9G 12% /usr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>/dev/hdc5 2.8G 1.6G 1.2G 58% /var
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>My / directory is stuffed, I already have /var/logs linked into a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>/home dir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>how do I take out the trash sort of speak, I guess I should really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>know what the culprit file or files that caused the fill up as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>eric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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