[nflug] NFS noac option

ptgoodman ptgrunner at earthlink.net
Thu Apr 27 20:11:56 EDT 2006


Cyber Source wrote:

> <--snip Do we really lose creativity and fail to adapt as we get 
> older? --snip>
>
>
> Ah, you sound as though you've been sucked into today's youth oriented 
> propaganda. I'm not sure of their respective ages but I do believe the 
> likes of  Einstein, Franklin, Edison and many more were well past 
> their 40's at least, when they did their best notable works.
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Well, I posed a question. It was not an assertion. I can't discuss all 
scientists, but take Einstein (DOB 1879 ). His paper on the special 
theory of relativity was written in 1905  ( age 26? ). But that paper 
was the culmination of ideas of ideas that had preoccupied him for 10 
years before that, when he was all of 16 years old. In 1905, Einstein 
showed that  the "photoelectric effect" could only be explained by the 
assumption that the energy of a light wave is quantized into small 
bundles called photons, but Einstein was not awarded the Nobel Prize for 
his Photoelectric Effect work until 1921.

De Broglie suggested the wave-particle duality of particles such as 
electrons since light had that property. He did this in a graduate 
dissertation in 1924--I think he was 32 yo at the time. He was awarded 
the Nobel prize in 1929.

I don't claim that these two scientists were not at all creative in 
their later years. But it seems they did their best work when they were 
quite young. _You_ chose Einstein. I chose de Broglie more or less at 
random.

I _think_ Green's Theorem ( you can look this one up ) was discovered by 
Green while trying to solve a Math problem during a test as a graduate 
student; I'm guessing that he was fairly young.

We've strayed far from the subject of this group, but Linus Torvalds was 
born in 1969. I think he wrote the Linux Kernel in the early 1990's. You 
can do the arithmetic. I don't what he's done since then--maybe he _has_ 
been very creative.

It's important to distinguish when a great scientist's work was done 
from the time when they published that work or were finally recognized 
for it.

This has absolutely nothing to do with "today's youth-oriented culture". 
I'm sure you can cite counter-examples to my examples. But I think that 
most scientists did their best, most creative work when they were 
relatively young. Guessing that you are looking at turning 50 yo 
("Objects in your calendar are closer than they appear.") or have 
already made it there. 50 yo is receding in my rear view mirror. Since 
falling out of my job of 18 years as Senior Programmer and Project 
Manager, I may as well have leprosy--that probably is "today's 
youth-oriented culture" at work. Frankly, I find many of today's youth 
to be lazy, indifference to quality work, and having expectations far 
beyond their capabilities.

Finally, I think I offended Mark. That wasn't really my intent and I 
apologize to him. I just felt he was pressing his point a little too 
hard. We've all done that at some point. Yeah! Me too!

I don't have any more to say about this. If someone wants to flame or 
otherwise abuse me, please Email me directly. Why should everyone else 
have to suffer?

k.
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