[nflug] Another reason to not use M$ products...

[Cyber Source]

JJ Neff wrote:

>He has a bit of a point though.  I've been trying to get a legally purchased CD
>to play on any PC Linux or Windows - without installing software from the CD. 
>I cannot play a Shakira CD I bought on my PC at all.  It either requires a
>Windows only software install or an old analog only CD player (I can play it on
>the car stereo or an old player in my basement!).
>
>In order to prevent copying the CD will not play on a Digital player and I
>assumed it would be easy to get around this being a Linux user, but I
>eventually gave up and got the same songs from another source - the songs I
>legally purchased and wished to have on my mp3player!
>
>So it is a Digital Rights issue as the OS in question made no difference on
>whether this CD woudl play or not.  Linux will not detect it as a readable CD
>in any way,.  The format has been purposely corrupted and so they can not have
>the CD image on the case or cd since it is not in a correct CD format.
>
>Oh well
>
>I'll keep looking for an easy way to play these CDs on a PC, but it won't
>change until the users make enough of an impact.  AS long as CDs continue to
>sell well it won't matter what we think.
>
>!!
>  
>
>>>I'm sorry for going off, but sometimes people need to get a fundamental
>>>understanding of issues, and not react to the slightest trigger of anything
>>>having the word Microsoft in it. This is the line that Zealots cross which
>>>instantly make their arguments not credible.
>>>
>>>-Mark
>>>
>>> 
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>>And maybe a response like this is better suited for a personal e-mail 
>>instead of to a Linux mailing list. I certainly could do without this 
>>clogging my inbox.
>>
>>-- 
>>Jesse Jarzynka
>>Cyber Source
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>>http://www.thecybersource.com/
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Sony seems to be the most active in this freakin drm bullshit. I 
recently had a client go out and get himself a sony mp3 player (actually 
a gift from his wife). Anyway, being a client of mine he wanted to get 
it workin in Linux. So, he plugs it in, drive pops up on the desktop, he 
can drag and drop mp3's onto it just fine, they show up fine UNTIL he 
disconnects it from the pc, then NOTHING SHOWS! He plugs it back in, the 
songs are all there, can even play them on the device using Linux. Found 
out after some googlin that the Sony software (windows freakin only) is 
required because it actually, now this is how it is designed mind you, 
takes the mp3's you want to put on it and CONVERTS them into Sony's 
PROPRIETARY format of ATRAC3!!!!!! NOWHERE on the package does it 
explain that this is how it functions. Now I know this is not an M$ 
thing but just WHO is this suppose to be benefiting??? ONLY available to 
Windows clients?? I know this is nothing knew but times are changing and 
this is not acceptable by ANY means, just as how John's cd is not! This 
drm shit is going to get completely out of hand. My client who is now a 
complete Linux guy absolutely flipped when this above was found out. 
Where does Sony get the balls to do this? According to the googling that 
I found when researching this, Sony is pissing off ALOT of people. 
Anyway, to Mark's comment, yes he made a good point but I think the 
point Bob was making is as his subject line read, "Another reason not to 
use M$ products", is just that, their products! What choice is there but 
to blame the OS when that is the ONLY choice?
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