8 is enough

Stephen Burke qfwfq at adelphia.net
Wed Nov 24 04:23:52 EST 2004


ebenoit at hopevale.com wrote:

:) thanks ...me cringing too

Quoting Cyber Source <peter at thecybersource.com>:


>being a rabid GNOME fan, it pains me to say this but.....if your using 
>GNOME, fire up (cringe) Konqueror and put smb:/// in the address bar, it 
>has no problem playing songs, etc. from samba locations.
>
>ebenoit at hopevale.com wrote:
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>


Why all the cringing?

I only cringe when I am forced to use a M$ box, like for swapping mp3s 
on my iRiver mp3 player which I have not yet been able to connect to 
with a Linux box, even though I found the ifp-driver at sourceforge some 
time ago.

 Personally, I can no longer take EITHER gnome or KDE, as they both look 
way too much like the boring old M$ desktop (taskbar, systray, etc), so 
I use enlightenment. For whatever reason the "home folder" choice in the 
enlightenment menu opens a Nautilus window which I can do without, so I 
open konqeror from another menu, which is much friendlier to samba than 
Nautilus, as stated above. (I would use blackbox more, probably, if I 
could figure out how to change the background image there.)

I wonder about the addressing, though, since I have only been using two 
slashes like so : smb://WinBox  or  smb://workgroup or 
smb://WinBox/share. That is good for browsing in konqueror, but if you 
go to play mp3s or a movie or whatever, konqueror is going to keep 
asking you what you want to with the file everytime (unless you choose 
the "do not ask again" and then you're stuck doing the same damn thing 
every time until you figure out how to get the choice back).  When I use 
three slashes, I get a popup saying :

Internal Error
Please send a full bug report at http://bugs.kde.org
Unknown error condition

A much more direct way to get at stuff on a M$ box is to mount the samba 
shares on your system and then konqueror and nautilus will work with 
them as if they were just another drive (though I have not figured out 
how to get M$ to allow me to write to an smb drive from here(SuSE 8.2), 
so if anyone knows about that, please enlighten me [thanks]).

The way to mount them is this:

$ mkdir  /some/mount/folder
$su
Password:
#mount  -t  smbfs  //WinBox/share   /some/mount/folder       
{one space between, though I have put two here to see better)
Password: {for WinUser on WinBox}
#

Then konqueror and Nautilus will both be much friendlier to browse with.

(you will have to "su" sooner if you want to make the mount directory in 
/mnt or some other place like that. I have been simply mounting things 
in my home folder, which seems to work pretty well and makes things easy 
to find [and have permissions to])

It probably helps helps to have the same user account name on both 
machines.
I do and it seems to work.

Sorry if this is getting long, but I am also new-ish to this list and 
haven't yet figured out how much reading people here will tolerate.

So I will answer the other newcomer (Don) question here also, as I will 
never get to replying to the mailing individually.


---I am new to the list, and I have a couple of questions:

---What OS is everyone running?

---What are the meetings like?

I am using SuSE 8.2 to do most things these days (the BLAG installation 
that I wrote about in my only other post here didn't quite work, as I 
found it lacking in various key tools (gcc, etc.) when I went to try to 
use konstruct to put some KDE stuff in there, so I left it for later 
examination and rebuilt something likethe SuSE system I had going before).

I also built this box with a removable HD so that I can toy with 
different systems on it, and am currently trying to wrestle an FC3 
system into place on another drive. I have tried installing many 
different systems there, but SuSE seems to be friendliest with my 
hardware. Everything else (slackware, FreeBSD, fedora, debian) seems to 
make the whole house of cards collapse as soon as I get to xconfig.

I also have a couple of Redhat 9 laptops configured to teleconference 
with gnomemeeting, which is curious, since Redhat stopped supporting 9 
and the webcam's driver maintainer stopped maintaining the PWC driver 
(apparently after some long, dramatic battle with the kernel maintainers 
that I missed until it was already over) right around the time when I 
had finally finished configuring my system. I'm just glad I didn't go 
ahead and write the manual for that system (which was the original 
plan), but I am all set up to toy with teleconferencing, if anyone here 
is so equipped and would like to connect in a an H323 kind of way. I 
need practice with it, as the user at the other end of the system I was 
trying to build (in NYC) kind of had other things to do by the time I 
was connected.

As for the question about meetings, though I truly wanted to attend the 
one last sunday, two years of graduate school night classes have left me 
on a twisted schedule where I cannot really get to bed before 4am, which 
leaves me rising around noon. After recent posts concerning punctuality, 
I knew I would never make it on time, so I haven't yet been to a meeting 
to find out and am also curious as well about what happens there.

That's all for me.
Sorry if this was all too much, but my undergraduate degree was English 
Literature and once I start writing it's tough to sum it all up in 25 
words or less.
;-),
S.

Oh, yeah, xfce has and interesting file browser as well, xffm, which 
seems rather friendly, though habit generally keeps me opening konqueror.

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>>>Does anyone know of another file browser besides Nautilus ...I depise
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>>Nautilus
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>>>not being able to figure out that I want to open a folder in a file share on
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>>a
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>>>windows server and use the files I have in there ...I have been connecting
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>>with
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>>>smbclient/terminal by bringing the file down putting the file up and it is
>>>getting old.
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