attn: Justin

[Jake Stoll]

Hey Daniel,

I see that you had Tojek :-) 

I'm just wondering were you took the exam. I'm hoping to take it in
October or around that time, but I dont remember where I had to go.
And how does the discount work.



On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 00:03:07 -0400, DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI
<dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com> wrote:
> Now, I do have my CCNA, so this is my (biased?) viewpoint.
> 
> I'd definately say it's worth it to get the CCNA/CCNP/CC**. The great
> thing that I found about the main Cisco certs is that they require a lot
> of hands on experience. The CCNA is definately a good start in
> understanding basic networking principles, and configuring
> routers/switches. Unfortunately, this requires you to have access to
> (specifically) Cisco routers, switches, and networks to practice the
> labs and configure the network. There is also software simulators to
> help with this, but I have never used any of them, so I can't say how
> well that will prepare you for the exams.
> 
> For me, I took the Cisco Networking Academy in High School (@ Sweet Home
> High School). The summer after I graduated, I had two IT internships and
> I got my CCNA certification. The knowledge from the Academy is what
> helped me get the internships and create a decent base of knowledge. By
> getting the certification, and subsequently showing them that I actually
> knew the material, it allowed me to land a permanent job from the one
> internship. For me, I got more respect from my co-workers and managers
> when they found out that (even though I just got out of high school,
> with no real world experience) I had my Cisco certification and
> training. So for anyone who does not have a lot of "real world"
> experience, it may help you gain a little more respect - or at least the
> opportunity to prove that you know the material. As with any cert
> though, you actually need to be able to back up that piece of paper.
> 
> As I said, this is my own experience, so the results will vary, but
> Cisco certs are always good to have.
> 
> Daniel Magnuszewski
> CCNA
> M & T Bank
> dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com
> >>> joshua at gnu-linux.net 07/16/04 6:30 PM >>>
> 
> 
> Well what about the CCNA and CCNP are they worth it?
> 
> Justin Bennett wrote:
> 
> >
> > It's test based, like most, there is 2 parts a question based section,
> 
> > and a hands on system setup and config.  You can take the test ~$700,
> > or there is a 5 day course I took, mostly review for me wasn't worth
> > it in my opinion but my employer payed for it, I would reccomend it if
> 
> > your not paying for it, but if you get a review book, and an old pc
> > you can do most of it on your own.  that was ~$2500. Red hat just
> > announced a new certification RHCA looks interesting I may look into
> > taking that. As for employers, hmm coudln't tell you, I haven't come
> > across a lot of shops that run linux in a production environment,
> > locally. About 90% of our servers are linux, correct me if I'm wrong,
> > but I think that is an oddity in the buffalo market, if he's looking
> > to move thats a different story.
> > The plus side is once you get comfortable in a unix like OS picking up
> 
> > something like Solaris for example which is big in the Universities
> > and several other places in the area is pretty easy to pick up.
> >
> >
> > Justin
> >
> >
> > Cyber Source wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Justin,
> >>  I know your a RHCE. My son is interested in what steps to take and
> >> the costs involved. Could you enlighten us? He is also interested in
> >> who might be hiring a RHCE, just to get some ideas. He just started
> >> ITT and is getting totally pissed at all the M$ crap they feed. I
> >> told him I thought it would be like that and a waste of money and
> >> that they wouldn't teach anything he's not learning at Cyber Source
> >> (except for how to bow to M$). You wouldn't believe some of the
> >> nonsense they teach there, I think there M$ funded.....
> >> Anyway, if you or anyone else could give us some clues as to
> >> obtaining an RHCE or any other Linux Certification, that would be
> >> great, Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> 
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