Linux certification options

[Cyber Source]

ah, can't remember the author but it was something like...You can judge 
a man's intelligence best by the questions he asks.......

Mark Musone wrote:

>Well, although I do agree with treating people's certifications in
>perspective and with a grain of salt, I don't agree with going the
>completely opposite way either. Not being formally trained is just as
>bad as being 100% formally trained. It's about balance and being well
>rounded. Not being formally trained often implies not learning the
>"proper" ways of engineering solutions, managing, troubleshooting, and
>most importantly learning.
>
>Don't get me wrong, kudos to you for being self taught and being self
>employed and a success. However that formula rarely works for most
>people.
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>While I'll be the first to admit that schooling does not give any real
>world training. It does provide to me the core essential parts: 1. It
>builds a foundation of information. 2. most importantly, it teaches
>people HOW TO LEARN.
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>When I interview people, I often don't care what they know. I care about
>what they don't know and how they would find the answer/knowledge.
>Hardly in the real world does someone go into a job knowing 100% of what
>needs to be done. Careers and responsibilities are all about solving
>problems...problems that one usually does not have the immediate answer
>to..knowing where to find that answer is what separates a key
>individual, or just another dime-a-dozen follower.
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>-Mark
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-nflug at nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug at nflug.org] On Behalf Of
>Cyber Source
>Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 11:03 AM
>To: nflug at nflug.org
>Subject: Re: Linux certification options
>
>Having been all self taught and self employed my entire life, I couldn't
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>agree more.
>
>Dave Yearke wrote:
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>>Hi,
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>>I just wanted to jump in with my (possibly not worth even) $0.02 worth
>>on the topic of certifications. If one is going to take a certification
>>course, one should do it for the right reason, which is gaining
>>knowledge.
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>>I've had the privilege of being part of a few search committees (what
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>>call job interviews), and I try to ignore certifications, as I'm not
>>much impressed with them as credentials. As a potential co-worker, I'm
>>more interested in someone that can learn and adapt, has an attitude
>>that enables them to work for and with others, and has years of "real"
>>experience, than in someone who has multiple sets of four-letter codes
>>on their resume that they paid for at one-week OS love-fests. I've
>>encountered too many "certified" people who can't think "outside the
>>box" (a term an old friend and collegue on this list likes to use), and
>>if they encounter a problem that isn't in a book they brought back from
>>a training course, they get like a deer in headlights and have no idea
>>how to proceed. To be fair, not everyone I know is like this, but I've
>>seen my share of people who think ..CE courses give them all the
>>knowledge they'll ever need.
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>>Short version: Personality and experience go a lot further than
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>one-week
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>>excursions to pay for a piece of paper and a set of initials. Again, my
>>opinion, based on my world view.
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>>Oh, and for those interested in learning Unix-like operating systems,
>>you'll do yourself a favor by also working with the more successful
>>commercial versions, like Solaris, HP-UX, and AIX (in fact, Solaris is
>>free (as in beer) for the downloading). Your mileage may vary. :-)
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>>Final thought: There are some employers who might perceive a lot of
>>training as a liability, because there might be an implied expectation
>>that they'll have to pick up the cost of re-certification and
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>continuing
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>>courses, instead of the individual. Food for thought ...
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