Installing a new hard disk

Asheville Joe josephj at main.nc.us
Sat Aug 16 13:01:47 EDT 2003 

Just went into harddrake and tried recovering the partition table on the 
old hdb1.  It worked and I have access to hdb1 and the test data on it.  
Don't know why I had to do that.

Joe

Asheville Joe wrote:

> Thanks. Between you and Peter I see that I'm having some sort of 
> hardware problem with the drive. I'll play with it as soon as I have 
> time. AS for "removeable" - I'll rename the darn thing rather than 
> learn to spell ;)
>
> Thanks.
>
> Joe
>
> Robert Meyer wrote:
>
>> --- Asheville Joe <josephj at main.nc.us> wrote:
>>  
>>
>>> OK.  What else is new?  I don't know how to run fdisk!  It seemed 
>>> simple enough, but below is my attempt.
>>>
>>> [root at localhost bigbird]# man fdisk
>>> [root at localhost bigbird]# fdisk /dev/hdb1
>>>
>>> Unable to open /dev/hdb1
>>>   
>>
>>
>> This is expected.  You can only fdisk the base device, not a 
>> partition/slice.
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>> [root at localhost bigbird]# fdisk /dev/hdb
>>>
>>> Unable to open /dev/hdb
>>>   
>>
>>
>> Looks like it doesn't know that /dev/hdb is there which seems to 
>> indicate that
>> the disk was not in the slot when the machine was booted.
>>
>>  
>>
>>> [root at localhost bigbird]# mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/removable
>>> mount: mount point /mnt/removable does not exist
>>> [root at localhost bigbird]# ls /mnt
>>> cdrom/  dos_hda1/  dos_hda5/  floppy/  removeable/  win_c2/  
>>> win_d2/  win_e/
>>> [root at localhost bigbird]# mount /dev/hdb1 removable
>>> mount: mount point removable does not exist
>>>   
>>
>>
>> You keep dropping the 'e' out of removeable (not removable).  Don't 
>> you HATE
>> when computers do what you tell them, and not what you mean???
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>> [root at localhost bigbird]# man fdisk
>>> [root at localhost bigbird]# ls /dev/hd*
>>> /dev/hda@  /dev/hda1@  /dev/hda2@  /dev/hda5@  /dev/hda6@  
>>> /dev/hda7@  /dev/hda8@  /dev/hda9@  /dev/hdc@
>>> [root at localhost bigbird]#
>>>
>>> The other drive (4GB IDE) works fine when installed and is /dev/hdb1 
>>> (/mnt/removeable).  BTW, What are all these at signs for and what's 
>>> /dev/hdc?  Does it mean I got the hard drive jumper set wrong?
>>>   
>>
>>
>> The '@' signs mean that those are symbolic links.  In all likelyhood, 
>> the
>> actual drive names are /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part? where 
>> the '?' is
>> a number from 1 to 9 and /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disk which 
>> refers to
>> the whole disk for '/dev/hda'.  Drives are as followed (in the /dev/hd?
>> context)
>> hda - primary master
>> hdb - primary slave
>> hdc - secondary master
>> hdd - secondary slave
>>
>> You may have a CDROM drive on the secondary interface as master which 
>> would be
>> /dev/hdc.
>>
>> Hope this helps...
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Bob
>>  
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>       Joe
>>>
>>> This is what cfdisk displays (with some whitespace deleted).
>>>
>>>                                  cfdisk 2.11x
>>>
>>>                                Disk Drive: /dev/hda
>>>                          Size: 30735581184 bytes, 30.7 GB
>>>                Heads: 255   Sectors per Track: 63   Cylinders: 3736
>>>
>>> Name        Flags       Part Type       FS Type [Label] ize (MB)
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> hda1  Boot               Primary        Win95 FAT32 3668.48
>>> hda5                     Logical        Win95 FAT32 3553.33
>>> hda6                     Logical        Linux ext2    16.46
>>> hda7                     Logical        Linux ext3  6407.50
>>> hda8                     Logical        Linux swap   830.76
>>> hda9                     Logical        Linux ext3 16253.16
>>>
>>> Robert Meyer wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>> Well, changing the line in fstab only makes it stop trying to fsck 
>>>> on the
>>>>     
>>>
>>> way
>>>   
>>>
>>>> up.  All other file system things that you want to do, you still 
>>>> have to do.
>>>>
>>>> If you have a new drive and want to use it with linux, then you 
>>>> have to
>>>>     
>>>
>>> fdisk
>>>   
>>>
>>>> it and do either 'mke2fs -j /dev/hdb1' or 'mke2fs /dev/hdb1' 
>>>> (journalled or
>>>> not) and then mount the drive.  I suspect that you can do that from 
>>>> the
>>>> mandrake control center.  This assumes you're going to make all one
>>>>     
>>>
>>> partition.
>>>   
>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>> --- Asheville Joe <josephj at main.nc.us> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>> I was hoping it was something simple like that! I'll try that. 
>>>>> Then what? mkfs and it's cousins have a bunch of options I don't 
>>>>> really understand. Or will harddrake do it for me?
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Meyer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's bombing out 'cuz you're telling it to fsck the thing in your 
>>>>>> fstab.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Change the fstab line to read:
>>>>>> /dev/hdb1 /mnt/removeable ext3 user,noauto,rw,suid,exec 0 0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope this helps...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>> --- Asheville Joe <josephj at main.nc.us> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi.  Linux 101 question:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I bought a new hard drive (for use with my new - not purchased 
>>>>>>> yet - computer).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have two hard drives in my current computer, the main one 
>>>>>>> (dual boot Linux and WIN98), and one in a removable bay.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the removable one (hdb1) set as noauto in fstab.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, I shut down my computer, pulled the old removable drive out 
>>>>>>> and put the new one in thinking it would boot up fine and let me 
>>>>>>> figure out how to format the new drive to ext3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh well!  Mandrake (9.1 RC2) sees the new drive, can't read it 
>>>>>>> and gets upset.  It will only boot into maintenance mode and I 
>>>>>>> don't know enough to proceed.  That wasn't too bad, but I 
>>>>>>> thought that having it set to noauto would have gotten me around 
>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, I shutdown and removed the new drive then rebooted.  It 
>>>>>>> still won't let me past maintenance mode because it's missing 
>>>>>>> it's beloved drive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Questions:
>>>>>>> 1) How do I set up my computer so that it is happy whether or 
>>>>>>> not hdb1 is there?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) How do I put the new drive in and format it (mkfs.ext3?)?  
>>>>>>> It's a 120GB IDE drive that I will probably use for media files 
>>>>>>> and image backups of the main drive on my new system when I get 
>>>>>>> it.  (It will be installed in the new computer - so Bob, don't 
>>>>>>> yell at me for putting more stuff in this old clunker. ;))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) If I want to rename my drives - e.g. from dos_hda1 to 
>>>>>>> cdrive_hda1, etc., do I have to do anything other than change 
>>>>>>> the entries in /etc/fstab?  Is there anything to watch out for?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My /etc/fstab:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /dev/hda7 / ext3 defaults 1 1
>>>>>>> /dev/hda6 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2
>>>>>>> none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
>>>>>>> /dev/hda9 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
>>>>>>> none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
>>>>>>> dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codep
>>>>>>> age=850,umask=0 0 0
>>>>>>> /dev/hda1 /mnt/dos_hda1 vfat 
>>>>>>> iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0,defaults 0
>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>> /dev/hda5 /mnt/dos_hda5 vfat 
>>>>>>> iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0,defaults 0
>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>> none /mnt/floppy supermount 
>>>>>>> dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,cod
>>>>>>> epage=850,umask=0 0 0
>>>>>>> /dev/hdb1 /mnt/removeable ext3 user,noauto,rw,suid,exec 1 2
>>>>>>> none /proc proc defaults 0 0
>>>>>>> /dev/hda8 swap swap defaults 0 0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I shut down, put my old drive back in and it works as advertized.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [root at localhost mnt]# mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/removeable
>>>>>>> [root at localhost mnt]# cd removeable
>>>>>>> [root at localhost removeable]# ls
>>>>>>> [root at localhost removeable]# df
>>>>>>> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
>>>>>>> /dev/hda7             5.9G  2.4G  3.2G  43% /
>>>>>>> /dev/hda6              16M  2.4M   13M  17% /boot
>>>>>>> /dev/hda9              15G  328M   15G   3% /home
>>>>>>> /dev/hda1             3.5G  2.3G  1.2G  66% /mnt/dos_hda1
>>>>>>> /dev/hda5             3.4G  876M  2.5G  26% /mnt/dos_hda5
>>>>>>> /dev/hdb1             4.0G   33M  3.7G   1% /mnt/removeable
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [root at localhost removeable]# cd ..
>>>>>>> [root at localhost mnt]# umount /dev/hdb1
>>>>>>> [root at localhost mnt]#
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>
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