Installing a new hard disk

Asheville Joe josephj at main.nc.us
Fri Aug 15 12:23:30 EDT 2003


Thanks. Between you and Peter I see that I'm having some sort of 
hardware problem with the drive. I'll play with it as soon as I have 
time. AS for "removeable" - I'll rename the darn thing rather than learn 
to spell ;)

Thanks.

Joe

Robert Meyer wrote:

>--- Asheville Joe <josephj at main.nc.us> wrote:
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>>OK.  What else is new?  I don't know how to run fdisk!  It seemed simple 
>>enough, but below is my attempt.
>>
>>[root at localhost bigbird]# man fdisk
>>[root at localhost bigbird]# fdisk /dev/hdb1
>>
>>Unable to open /dev/hdb1
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>This is expected.  You can only fdisk the base device, not a partition/slice.
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>>[root at localhost bigbird]# fdisk /dev/hdb
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>>Unable to open /dev/hdb
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>Looks like it doesn't know that /dev/hdb is there which seems to indicate that
>the disk was not in the slot when the machine was booted.
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>>[root at localhost bigbird]# mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/removable
>>mount: mount point /mnt/removable does not exist
>>[root at localhost bigbird]# ls /mnt
>>cdrom/  dos_hda1/  dos_hda5/  floppy/  removeable/  win_c2/  win_d2/  win_e/
>>[root at localhost bigbird]# mount /dev/hdb1 removable
>>mount: mount point removable does not exist
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>You keep dropping the 'e' out of removeable (not removable).  Don't you HATE
>when computers do what you tell them, and not what you mean???
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>>[root at localhost bigbird]# man fdisk
>>[root at localhost bigbird]# ls /dev/hd*
>>/dev/hda@  /dev/hda1@  /dev/hda2@  /dev/hda5@  /dev/hda6@  /dev/hda7@  
>>/dev/hda8@  /dev/hda9@  /dev/hdc@
>>[root at localhost bigbird]#
>>
>>The other drive (4GB IDE) works fine when installed and is /dev/hdb1 
>>(/mnt/removeable).  BTW, What are all these at signs for and what's 
>>/dev/hdc?  Does it mean I got the hard drive jumper set wrong?
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>The '@' signs mean that those are symbolic links.  In all likelyhood, the
>actual drive names are /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part? where the '?' is
>a number from 1 to 9 and /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disk which refers to
>the whole disk for '/dev/hda'.  Drives are as followed (in the /dev/hd?
>context)
>hda - primary master
>hdb - primary slave
>hdc - secondary master
>hdd - secondary slave
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>You may have a CDROM drive on the secondary interface as master which would be
>/dev/hdc.
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>Hope this helps...
>
>Cheers!
>
>Bob
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>>Thanks,
>>       Joe
>>
>>This is what cfdisk displays (with some whitespace deleted).
>>
>>                                  cfdisk 2.11x
>>
>>                                Disk Drive: /dev/hda
>>                          Size: 30735581184 bytes, 30.7 GB
>>                Heads: 255   Sectors per Track: 63   Cylinders: 3736
>>
>>Name        Flags       Part Type       FS Type [Label] ize (MB)
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>hda1  Boot               Primary        Win95 FAT32 3668.48
>>hda5                     Logical        Win95 FAT32 3553.33
>>hda6                     Logical        Linux ext2    16.46
>>hda7                     Logical        Linux ext3  6407.50
>>hda8                     Logical        Linux swap   830.76
>>hda9                     Logical        Linux ext3 16253.16
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>>Robert Meyer wrote:
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>>>Well, changing the line in fstab only makes it stop trying to fsck on the
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>>way
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>>>up.  All other file system things that you want to do, you still have to do.
>>>
>>>If you have a new drive and want to use it with linux, then you have to
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>>fdisk
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>>>it and do either 'mke2fs -j /dev/hdb1' or 'mke2fs /dev/hdb1' (journalled or
>>>not) and then mount the drive.  I suspect that you can do that from the
>>>mandrake control center.  This assumes you're going to make all one
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>>partition.
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>>>Cheers!
>>>
>>>Bob
>>>--- Asheville Joe <josephj at main.nc.us> wrote:
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>>>>I was hoping it was something simple like that! I'll try that. Then 
>>>>what? mkfs and it's cousins have a bunch of options I don't really 
>>>>understand. Or will harddrake do it for me?
>>>>
>>>>Joe
>>>>
>>>>Robert Meyer wrote:
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>>>>>It's bombing out 'cuz you're telling it to fsck the thing in your fstab.
>>>>>
>>>>>Change the fstab line to read:
>>>>>/dev/hdb1 /mnt/removeable ext3 user,noauto,rw,suid,exec 0 0
>>>>>
>>>>>Hope this helps...
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers!
>>>>>
>>>>>Bob
>>>>>--- Asheville Joe <josephj at main.nc.us> wrote:
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi.  Linux 101 question:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I bought a new hard drive (for use with my new - not purchased yet - 
>>>>>>computer).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have two hard drives in my current computer, the main one (dual boot 
>>>>>>Linux and WIN98), and one in a removable bay.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have the removable one (hdb1) set as noauto in fstab.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So, I shut down my computer, pulled the old removable drive out and put 
>>>>>>the new one in thinking it would boot up fine and let me figure out how 
>>>>>>to format the new drive to ext3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Oh well!  Mandrake (9.1 RC2) sees the new drive, can't read it and gets 
>>>>>>upset.  It will only boot into maintenance mode and I don't know enough 
>>>>>>to proceed.  That wasn't too bad, but I thought that having it set to 
>>>>>>noauto would have gotten me around this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So, I shutdown and removed the new drive then rebooted.  It still won't 
>>>>>>let me past maintenance mode because it's missing it's beloved drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Questions:
>>>>>>1) How do I set up my computer so that it is happy whether or not hdb1 
>>>>>>is there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>2) How do I put the new drive in and format it (mkfs.ext3?)?  It's a 
>>>>>>120GB IDE drive that I will probably use for media files and image 
>>>>>>backups of the main drive on my new system when I get it.  (It will be 
>>>>>>installed in the new computer - so Bob, don't yell at me for putting 
>>>>>>more stuff in this old clunker. ;))
>>>>>>
>>>>>>3) If I want to rename my drives - e.g. from dos_hda1 to cdrive_hda1, 
>>>>>>etc., do I have to do anything other than change the entries in 
>>>>>>/etc/fstab?  Is there anything to watch out for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Joe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My /etc/fstab:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>/dev/hda7 / ext3 defaults 1 1
>>>>>>/dev/hda6 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2
>>>>>>none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
>>>>>>/dev/hda9 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
>>>>>>none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
>>>>>>dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codep
>>>>>>age=850,umask=0 0 0
>>>>>>/dev/hda1 /mnt/dos_hda1 vfat 
>>>>>>iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0,defaults 0
>>>>>>0
>>>>>>/dev/hda5 /mnt/dos_hda5 vfat 
>>>>>>iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0,defaults 0
>>>>>>0
>>>>>>none /mnt/floppy supermount 
>>>>>>dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,cod
>>>>>>epage=850,umask=0 0 0
>>>>>>/dev/hdb1 /mnt/removeable ext3 user,noauto,rw,suid,exec 1 2
>>>>>>none /proc proc defaults 0 0
>>>>>>/dev/hda8 swap swap defaults 0 0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I shut down, put my old drive back in and it works as advertized.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[root at localhost mnt]# mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/removeable
>>>>>>[root at localhost mnt]# cd removeable
>>>>>>[root at localhost removeable]# ls
>>>>>>[root at localhost removeable]# df
>>>>>>Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
>>>>>>/dev/hda7             5.9G  2.4G  3.2G  43% /
>>>>>>/dev/hda6              16M  2.4M   13M  17% /boot
>>>>>>/dev/hda9              15G  328M   15G   3% /home
>>>>>>/dev/hda1             3.5G  2.3G  1.2G  66% /mnt/dos_hda1
>>>>>>/dev/hda5             3.4G  876M  2.5G  26% /mnt/dos_hda5
>>>>>>/dev/hdb1             4.0G   33M  3.7G   1% /mnt/removeable
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[root at localhost removeable]# cd ..
>>>>>>[root at localhost mnt]# umount /dev/hdb1
>>>>>>[root at localhost mnt]#
>>>>>>
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